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I am here to sheep sr + lanmisa to the promised land

I won’t idle my votes!

Ok wtf is this stupid bull$%#! with the bats

Originally Posted by Beaux Balkans 1571276429 (#2084)

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1571275827 (#2083)

Tho I still think BB's defense of Michael looks bad, but more F than H

WHERE did I defend Michael? I JA-ed b/c Chem said they would shoot Them 99%.

Now you really look bad.

theres no world of sr scum that I ever buy

Voted ja I’m not idling!!!

Oops I didn’t respond in the right quote bubble my comment was the last 3 votes in a row thing

St is functionally clear

Originally Posted by Beaux Balkans 1570779900 (#1817)

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570776965 (#1811)

Originally Posted by LanMisa 1570774318 (#1806)

I should not get so aggravated over a game like this and I apologise for my language. I will take my time off the thread and think about how to proceed from here.

The next government will be Chemist and SR and if any of you fail to vote for that again I have no words to say to any of you.

i refuse to believe that scum have had a free win THE LAST 3 CYVLES IN A ROW and have continually neined

Btw, if you have an objection to this maybe say it in advance this time BB

I will be Neining this, to cover for F!Luk/H!SR probability.

I will be JA-ing a Chem/LAN motion, and if they somehow conflicted Chem should shoot LAN.

@Da Letter El: the last vote does not prove much as Luk and Mischief already said they were asleep. TL is afk for a long time now, and Michael is still to claim a reason of their Nein. We don’t know if any F did not just fcuk up.

Any not-sr chancellor vote is invalid

Sorry for putting the vote off so long should have just gut gone with sr vote irl stuff happened. Happy to explain in postgame. Just very $%#!ty luck

Last vote if the previous two didn’t should prove sr isn’t h

$%#! $%#! forgot nominate secondhand revenant

yeah no sorry all; it's been a long day and my mind is just going in circles right now and mixing up when I've thought what and why

starting to even consider shr instead considering only world he's scum is with luk and i'd have to believe that...two town voted yes on mischief vote, and voted no on chemist vote? maybe that's just the more logical direction to go

I'll get my nom up ~9 hours from now with some more cohesive thoughts leading into it

i really don't understand this mass flip flop in the votes between the chemist round and the mischief round. shr was chancellor for both; i'd think the chancellor vote would largely drive the yes/no decision moreso than the president at this point?

wait im getting mixed up; chemist wasn't nommed it was shr

I forgot that the nom made no sense

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570679172 (#1729)

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570670227 (#1728)

@Da Letter El come on

@Da Letter El

We have been sitting here for over 24 hours waiting on you to pick someone or even talk about it aside from one post where you express doubt on chemist and say nothing else

I literally said I was nomming chemist unless I felt he was possible h, in which case i'd vote lanmisa

I'm never nomming outside of those; I refuse to believe a world of lanmisa + chemist being both scum and feel resolving outside of those two is unnecessary.

Gonna give this one more look over but very strongly leaning lanmisa now

hm maybe I need to reconsider chemist not being H

what a terrible list of jas

so if it even gets to a place where there's a conflict then it proves that chancellor cant be hitler

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570507661 (#1622)

Originally Posted by Da Letter El 1570507560 (#1620)

Actually, open question: if chancellor and I conflict, then I KNOW they're F and NOT H. Would that mean it's better I shoot outside of that conflict anyway?

What no you can't rule them out because if they pass L we win

H auto wins if they're even nominated as H, right? so whoever next chancellor is, is automatically confirmed not H, right?

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570507456 (#1619)

Originally Posted by Da Letter El 1570507237 (#1616)

if it isn't obvious i'm neining this

It's not obvious because idk if you thought it out

I in fact am aware that me being pres >>> mischief being pres, yes.

Actually, open question: if chancellor and I conflict, then I KNOW they're F and NOT H. Would that mean it's better I shoot outside of that conflict anyway?

if it isn't obvious i'm neining this

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570480736 (#1601)

@Da Letter El

Who would you pick as chancellor and who would you shoot if an F was passed but there was no conflict?

prolly chemist unless I in the next few days start sipping the chemist H Kool-Aid, which I've really not bought so far

lanmisa almost certainly otherwise

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570494608 (#1607)

Tbh what I want is for someone to shoot Amy because if we pick DLE now or next I don't like having Amy/Luk/Chem as our president choices. This is a thing Lan brought up earlier. So I'm wondering if DLE is willing to because despite the fact Amy is the person he probably knows best here I don't remember him commenting on her so I'm wary of him just refusing and it's one reason I may actually want @Mischief as president if he's willing to and DLE isn't. Would have waited but there's a point I can't keep waiting for @Da Letter El to play

@LanMisa your thoughts on this?
@Beaux Balkans too

not against shooting amy since I don't think this is likely amy's town game but I was considering Michael and luk shots as well for added benefits of "if they're town we get a clear to chancellor; if they're scum then hopefully they're H" -- although thinking odds are far from likely they're H. Far from decided though.

Originally Posted by Beaux Balkans 1570360348 (#1542)

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570358361 (#1540)

Originally Posted by Beaux Balkans 1570355993 (#1537)

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570351775 (#1532)

@Beaux Balkans we have more time but not really enough. Who do you want as chancellor here?

LanMisa, because I still read him as a Liberal. He may be a fascist together with Rick/Amy but is never Hitler imo.

Not the worst all things considered. But is it worth doing if chem is the president?

I can see where you come from. We can nein through Chem and Mischief to DLE (might be SH fascist but not likely to be a common F) and vote a DLE/Lan govt.

I think that if enough people think this is the way to go, this is really the only argument that I'd nein over.

As much as the chemist nom is WEIRD, I also don't think it's necessarily WRONG

wait ive only got 8 hours to vote that's a big yikes

ok

Originally Posted by Beaux Balkans 1570344155 (#1528)

Da Letter, what are your thoughts on LanMisa and SR?

SR looks worse from just how out of the blue this nom is (not in his control but just feels...off?) and from not realizing that I have very little SH equity (where is my team, and how do I win as SH with this sort of activity level especially if my team is full of idlers -- this has still been ignored entirely). The paranoia there felt forced. Of the people involved in passing L policies, is most likely to be scum. Doesn't help that I have a moderate scumread on Luk which doesn't help his case on being cleared via inspect.

Lanmisa has done nothing to change my TR read there. Would have really liked that to be the chancellor nom and am shocked it wasn't.

what a weird nom

probably still a good nom but it feels very bizarre how chemist got to sr over other choices

I don't think I buy chemist + sr + luk as a team, so then I'd have to buy world that chemist as town nommed sr anyway over lanmisa, and the sr + luk team

hm

from a quick glance it appears not good night

hi its 2:30 am is there a deadline for me to vote on something that im missing

chemist hasn't nominated anything yet right

would strongly prefer not to idle

actually after thinking about it, a scum team of like...

Michael + amy + mischief with me hitler could still make sense even with that

eh

anyway im off to do irl things and will be busy for a long $%#! time lata

well I guess it takes reading my role pm but you know what I mean

anyway its not like im gonna get made chancellor anytime soon since there's plenty of good candidates here anyway but figured id say my piece since I know im sure as $%#! not hitler and think mechanically speaking other people should too

like me being H doesn't make sense and I want it known that me being H doesn't make sense because it doesn't take reading to know my role PM and how I'd act in a game

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570150387 (#1341)

Originally Posted by Da Letter El 1570150329 (#1340)

i mean it's wifom on some level but I think it's true

does it look like im pushing this agenda all that hard

It looks like I responded negatively to it the second you began it? And you included it when he was not interested in people mentioning themselves to you cared enough to do that

I brought it up because he asked about chancellors as not-hitler and I think objectively speaking I shouldn't be hitler to anyone because I wasnt nearly invested enough in this game -- particularly at the point I was voting -- to pass an L that gets things so close to L's winning.

Where are my adoring F fans pushing for the DLE crown anyway

i mean it's wifom on some level but I think it's true

does it look like im pushing this agenda all that hard

I don't too seriously expect that I'll be chancellor made at all this game but I'm always gonna argue on my behalf. I'm obviously happy to do it and if people think I'm trustworthy enough then let's do it but Im well aware how iDLE I've been so perfectly fine just being a trusted ja/nein or a 1 time pres

LF I keep thinking it's TF like true/false

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570149910 (#1332)

Originally Posted by Da Letter El 1570149812 (#1329)

Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal 1570149431 (#1324)

Oh De Lette El can you answer my question earlier name up to three people you are confident aren't Hitler

actually huh maybe chemist is a better chancellor since you mention that; I don't think they're hitler and that might be my strongest not-hitler read, I haven't thought about that too much

I guess lanmisa could just be super townsiding hitler with scum!michael but still just think they're L

I'd like to think I'm pretty clearly not Hitler to the rest of the game from passing the FL and I think if i'm hitler that more people would have already been trying to pitch me as a chancellor at some point

If i'm not counting myself then a third hm. So if BB is hitler it means he probably would have had to have drawn LLF which seems mathematically unlikely? Also think he's just generally been townsiding pretty hard.

So probably Chemist first, then lanmisa and BB in some order?

Oh so you're saying if you're Hitler you'd have conflicted with BB and gotten frozen instead?

yeah I made this argument before

think if Im hitler I just pick the F out of TF and hope team can figure things out from there since I don't think im in a good position to ever really have a chancellor argument (as I proceed to make chancellor arguments I guess there's some irony there)

lanmisa seems super gamesolvey too which I guess they can afford to do if they're super trusted by town but I have a hard time buying it

Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal 1570149431 (#1324)

Oh De Lette El can you answer my question earlier name up to three people you are confident aren't Hitler

actually huh maybe chemist is a better chancellor since you mention that; I don't think they're hitler and that might be my strongest not-hitler read, I haven't thought about that too much

I guess lanmisa could just be super townsiding hitler with scum!michael but still just think they're L

I'd like to think I'm pretty clearly not Hitler to the rest of the game from passing the FL and I think if i'm hitler that more people would have already been trying to pitch me as a chancellor at some point

If i'm not counting myself then a third hm. So if BB is hitler it means he probably would have had to have drawn LLF which seems mathematically unlikely? Also think he's just generally been townsiding pretty hard.

So probably Chemist first, then lanmisa and BB in some order?

I also technically idled since I didn't send nein but I would have sent nein anyway

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570149183 (#1315)

Can I ask why you neined the last government and never really talked about it

I didn't like TL and never got around to reading mischief so I figured "person I don't like from my read" vs "person I haven't read" favors the person I haven't read

and BB just neined the TL nom so even more reason not to buy that world. Would still probably nein BB + SHR though even if I think they're both almost certainly L

I don't see otherwise how scumteam with BB could be so complacent.

I guess; only BB scum world that makes any sense to me is SHR + BB + Luk + 1 of TL/Mischief/Amy with a strong lean to TL there; and I don't think this is the world we're in. If BB's pres and he noms SHR chancellor I nein.

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1570148566 (#1307)

Originally Posted by Da Letter El 1570148420 (#1306)

why does TL even get a choice in the matter

Because I wanted to hear what he had to say before threatening him?

because we're at the point where we can just mechanically force F's to either out or play well enough to the L wincon that getting a read off his opinion really doesn't matter anymore

why does TL even get a choice in the matter

can we just say TL is just auto F if he doesn't nominate chemist for pres

Originally Posted by LanMisa 1570034592 (#1213)

Originally Posted by Beaux Balkans 1570033408 (#1212)

Originally Posted by Da Letter El 1570024781 (#1210)

Michael vs lukundo continues to make lukundo look worse and Michael look better. Lukundo feels desperate and Michael just feels clueless.

regretting my vote a bit even if it wasn't going to be decisive, maybe I should have pushed more there

eh

It is so bad that it might even be scum theater.

Scum theater without purpose though... I mean, why would they just take each other out like that? Where is the profit?

Michael H, Lukundo F with a prayer that someone starts reading Michael as town enough for a chancellor bring, which is never gonna happen? I'd be willing to entertain a Michael presidency in the future but not a chancellorship

Michael vs lukundo continues to make lukundo look worse and Michael look better. Lukundo feels desperate and Michael just feels clueless.

regretting my vote a bit even if it wasn't going to be decisive, maybe I should have pushed more there

eh

think TL vs Mischief is likely going to be a pointless discussion besides getting a commitment on special election as something to hold over their head as confirmation of L/F

i'll read through mischief's iso in a sec that seems like it might be productive

is it bad to feel like Michael's recent stuff might be "so bad it's good"

not to the degree id feel confident in a ja but I really haven't seen much I particularly like out of mischief or TL so like...

where is mischief anyway