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    Thread: Subspace Emissary Game Thread

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    Completed Good game y’all!

    Good game y’all!
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    Completed $%#! it I’m sticking with my gut

    $%#! it I’m sticking with my gut
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    Completed 10 mins left. Cmon y’all

    10 mins left.

    Cmon y’all
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    Completed Comet claimed Zero suit Samus (cop) OPG is...

    Comet claimed Zero suit Samus (cop)

    OPG is 100% town, you can’t fake a N1 result like that or I’m gonna retire from TVMs again completely flip.

    SG really has no choice but to vote Comet, but the fact that he isn’t taking that opportunity when given baffles me.
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    Completed OperationGaming CometSmudge How do y’all feel...

    @OperationGaming @CometSmudge

    How do y’all feel about this?
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    Completed OPG, I understand your issue with Comet. He has...

    OPG, I understand your issue with Comet. He has his few posts I didn’t trust, but he seems fine to me. It’s also possible that his role would have been only useful for finding out someone like Rad.

    The idea of an investigation-immune TP is plausible at this stage of the game.

    Also, could you elaborate on Comet’s meta? Is there something that I’m missing that I do not know?
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    Completed How can you be confused of what’s going on if...

    Quote Originally Posted by StarGazer98 (#713)
    i think we should do a dude lynch next just cuz i know for sure that Comet and OPG are town
    Quote Originally Posted by StarGazer98 (#714)
    butt im still confused
    How can you be confused of what’s going on if we’re the only ones unconfirmed?

    SG is a newer player, but he’s hesitant to vote me as soon as day begins, in contrast to voting Ninja instant yesterday after Rad’s lynch. Mind you, I haven’t even been peeked by Comet at that point. That’s very contradictory.

    It took Comet to vote me for him to jump on the wagon. A TP would always wait for others to do their job, and as a newbie scum, he’s afraid to jump on me first after OPG called him out on that.
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    Completed Here.

    Here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImjustaDude (#666)
    Quote Originally Posted by N1NJ4W4RR10R (#664)
    Thoughts dude?

    I still don't like that we have an active Joat claim (with at least 2 varieties of TI) and a tracker claim as well as a doc claim with us not having an NK last night.

    And we've yet to see someone claim hit :l

    I'd at least like to know how there was no NK last night. The daisy lynch was to hasty, don't want this one going that way as well.
    Yeah it’s also weird for me. A JOAT with 2 invests is pretty... unorthodox. Not impossible, just an Alpha twist maybe. We don’t a tracker claim though. OPG, what is your third ability?

    With no deaths and an assumed RBer on the run, it would be logical to believe that the kill was either blocked or healed. No one claimed RBed or hit, which meant someone is lying or trying to hide that they were indeed blocked. Perhaps users aren’t notified if attacked? We need to know who Rad claimed to heal.

    That would be true IF the second blocker was town, which is VERY unlikely. It could even be no second blocker and one of Comet/OPG lies, but that is for another time.

    I also want to say based on vote history, Cal seemed pretty opportunistic on an OPG lynch coming into D2, and a lesser extent D1. That gives me points on OPG being legit.

    What I don’t like is Rad not immediately voting back OPG. It really wasn’t that much difficult slapping on a vote, but he says he’ll be back. Ok then.

    My question for Comet was if he investigated Cal and saw it as town, I’m curious as to why he didn’t out that information during day 2. In hindsight, it was a blessing in disguise and a good move. It explains the soft defending, however.
    Quote Originally Posted by ImjustaDude (#673)
    Quote Originally Posted by OperationGaming (#507)
    I clicked send early but my gut is saying lynch Rad until he struggles for breath and dies. I just want to kill him ever since he made his first post. And I felt the same thing with Cal

    ##Vote Radiate
    I just wanna say that this vote looking back on it isn’t the best (which makes sense), but the context behind it worries me. At best, wanting Rad dead since his first post is somewhat true; what isn’t true, however, is how he felt towards Cal. After reading OPG’s iso, he had Cal as nulltown and doubled down on it towards the end of day 2. That does NOT sound like wanting someone dead. Could this be me misinterpreting the situation? There’s always a possibility. But I had to put this out there because it didn’t fit well.

    As for my take on the second RBer (which according to flavor does exist), the only problem with that is that we know Rad visited DS but the latter did not claim RBed. There is no where in his role pm that mentions that he is immune to blocks, OR that he will not be notified if someone blocked him. He never claimed to be roleblocked which meant either A: He withheld that info (AKA massively $%#!ed up) or B: Rad is our doc and he paid DS a visit. Rad claimed to have healed OPG N2, the same night he claimed roleblocked. Coincidence? Perhaps.

    In the meantime, I have more work to do. I’ll be back in a few hours haha.
    Quote Originally Posted by ImjustaDude (#679)
    That’s correct. It would be hard to Gabe a N1 result like that too.
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    Completed If I was TP, what benefit would it be to actually...

    If I was TP, what benefit would it be to actually gamesolve and further town agenda? As one of the most active here, that would be harmful to encourage discussion while adding new ideas if I was TP.

    As for the Rad situation, I was genuinely confused. I falsely believed that DS would’ve been notified if he was RBed, and Rads doc claim wasn’t that bad imo. I made a few posts explaining how each one of {Rad, OPG} could be town/scum. If you want, I’ll gladly pull up the quotes.


    Anyways, I trust Comet, our last TP, SG is who I’m voting. We’re technically in Mylo, so it’s important we end this now.

    ##Vote StarGazer98
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    Completed Well I’m Pit, the VT Can’t mech clear myself...

    Well I’m Pit, the VT

    Can’t mech clear myself sadly, but I want y’all to read my posts. ISO them all and you will see why I am town.

    Not trying to brag or anything, but if it weren’t for DS and I voting out Cal, we wouldn’t be in a 3-1 situation here. If I was Mafia (which is already impossible as this setup only permits two), why go for Cal when Daisy offered to be lynched at EOD2?
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    Completed There is no mafia left y’all. It’s a multiball...

    There is no mafia left y’all. It’s a multiball and 3 mafia+tp is unrealistic. So far, there have been no kills for the last few days.
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    Completed N1NJ4W4RR10R POE Reasons

    ##Vote N1NJ4W4RR10R

    POE Reasons
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    Completed Who is your character or I vote you Ninja

    Who is your character or I vote you Ninja
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    Completed It really is between Comet and Ninja. Quickest...

    It really is between Comet and Ninja. Quickest hammer of the game??

    Ninja should claim when he gets on. Let’s not rush too quick into a lynch.

    I do trust Comet more imo.
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    Completed Radiate

    ##Vote Radiate
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    Completed Ebwop: *fake* god damnit

    Ebwop: *fake* god damnit
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    Completed That’s correct. It would be hard to Gabe a N1...

    That’s correct. It would be hard to Gabe a N1 result like that too.
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    Completed I just wanna say that this vote looking back on...

    Quote Originally Posted by OperationGaming (#507)
    I clicked send early but my gut is saying lynch Rad until he struggles for breath and dies. I just want to kill him ever since he made his first post. And I felt the same thing with Cal

    ##Vote Radiate
    I just wanna say that this vote looking back on it isn’t the best (which makes sense), but the context behind it worries me. At best, wanting Rad dead since his first post is somewhat true; what isn’t true, however, is how he felt towards Cal. After reading OPG’s iso, he had Cal as nulltown and doubled down on it towards the end of day 2. That does NOT sound like wanting someone dead. Could this be me misinterpreting the situation? There’s always a possibility. But I had to put this out there because it didn’t fit well.

    As for my take on the second RBer (which according to flavor does exist), the only problem with that is that we know Rad visited DS but the latter did not claim RBed. There is no where in his role pm that mentions that he is immune to blocks, OR that he will not be notified if someone blocked him. He never claimed to be roleblocked which meant either A: He withheld that info (AKA massively $%#!ed up) or B: Rad is our doc and he paid DS a visit. Rad claimed to have healed OPG N2, the same night he claimed roleblocked. Coincidence? Perhaps.

    In the meantime, I have more work to do. I’ll be back in a few hours haha.
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    Completed Comet claimed cop and OPG an Investigative JOAT....

    Comet claimed cop and OPG an Investigative JOAT. Rad claims doc.

    Rest of us should claim, we can get a good feel at what’s going on. I’m not too worried about the setup making sense but rather everyone with a known role.
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    Completed It looks like our mafia scum can do both the kill...

    It looks like our mafia scum can do both the kill and their own action.
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    Completed The Mafia RBer in this sense would kill, however...

    Quote Originally Posted by StarGazer98 (#665)
    can mafia RBer and other PR do NKs? didnt the guide say tht only gf can NK
    maybe that was the reason or perhaps the mafia remaining can only do 1 thing at one night either a kill or a roleblock
    The Mafia RBer in this sense would kill, however we do not know if they keep their ability to roleblock along with a shot. Fair enough, I’ll read the guide more.
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    Completed Yeah it’s also weird for me. A JOAT with 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by N1NJ4W4RR10R (#664)
    Thoughts dude?

    I still don't like that we have an active Joat claim (with at least 2 varieties of TI) and a tracker claim as well as a doc claim with us not having an NK last night.

    And we've yet to see someone claim hit :l

    I'd at least like to know how there was no NK last night. The daisy lynch was to hasty, don't want this one going that way as well.
    Yeah it’s also weird for me. A JOAT with 2 invests is pretty... unorthodox. Not impossible, just an Alpha twist maybe. We don’t a tracker claim though. OPG, what is your third ability?

    With no deaths and an assumed RBer on the run, it would be logical to believe that the kill was either blocked or healed. No one claimed RBed or hit, which meant someone is lying or trying to hide that they were indeed blocked. Perhaps users aren’t notified if attacked? We need to know who Rad claimed to heal.

    That would be true IF the second blocker was town, which is VERY unlikely. It could even be no second blocker and one of Comet/OPG lies, but that is for another time.

    I also want to say based on vote history, Cal seemed pretty opportunistic on an OPG lynch coming into D2, and a lesser extent D1. That gives me points on OPG being legit.

    What I don’t like is Rad not immediately voting back OPG. It really wasn’t that much difficult slapping on a vote, but he says he’ll be back. Ok then.

    My question for Comet was if he investigated Cal and saw it as town, I’m curious as to why he didn’t out that information during day 2. In hindsight, it was a blessing in disguise and a good move. It explains the soft defending, however.
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    Completed Multiball: 2 mafia and 1-2 tp, likely just 1...

    Quote Originally Posted by OperationGaming (#655)
    Quote Originally Posted by ImjustaDude (#653)
    We’re in mylo by the way guys, this is L-2 by the way. Disclaimer before I vote.
    What, how?
    Multiball: 2 mafia and 1-2 tp, likely just 1 though. It means we are at 4v2. We mislynch and technically it’s over.

    Was anyone RBed? Healed? No one died, so there has to be a reason why.
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    Completed We’re in mylo by the way guys, this is L-2 by the...

    We’re in mylo by the way guys, this is L-2 by the way. Disclaimer before I vote.
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    Completed NSFW spoilers on OPG’s spoiler by the way

    NSFW spoilers on OPG’s spoiler by the way
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    Completed Comet lynch wasn’t gonna happen, best case...

    Quote Originally Posted by N1NJ4W4RR10R (#644)
    Told yahs.

    Still pretty confident on comet.
    Comet lynch wasn’t gonna happen, best case scenario it would have been an RNG lynch. Let’s not dwell on it though.

    Chances are we’re going to be in 3-2 tommorow, one of OPG/Rad will probably die.
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    Completed She’s L-1 and we got 2 minutes left. Doesn’t look...

    She’s L-1 and we got 2 minutes left. Doesn’t look like it changes.
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    Completed DaisyCloud Sorry Daisy

    ##Vote DaisyCloud

    Sorry Daisy
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    Completed Ok then. Who is everyone leaning towards as...

    Ok then. Who is everyone leaning towards as town/scum?
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    Completed Guys, how about yeeting SG? I know it speaks...

    Guys, how about yeeting SG? I know it speaks against everything I said today, but man everyone has a solid reason (and reasons not to) be what they claim they are. I did a skim back and nothing really screams scum to me.

    I understand his situation, but it’s really hard. Help me please.
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    Completed Add on a few vanillas and it makes sense.

    Add on a few vanillas and it makes sense.
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    Completed I’m rereading everything from beginning of day.

    I’m rereading everything from beginning of day.
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    Completed Please stop saying that word. I might go insane...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#619)
    Quote Originally Posted by ImjustaDude (#615)
    I like to believe it was a typo. Survivor flashbacks are the worst.


    don't you know im survivor/jester/scum
    Please stop saying that word. I might go insane at this rate :smirk:

    (Unless you’re serious, which I doubt)
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    Completed Ninja, SG, and I haven’t claimed. I do not want...

    Ninja, SG, and I haven’t claimed. I do not want this to be a massclaim party because it may ruin the spirit of the game, but if everyone is down with it, we can all claim. Then, we can go accordingly based on behavior and then role on the side. It’ll answer more questions and give us a feel of the game more. If this does NOT need to be done, that it fine.
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    Completed Jokes aside, we’re at an impasse. I’ve never felt...

    Jokes aside, we’re at an impasse. I’ve never felt this confused in a TvM since SC forum days as a newbie in 3p lylo. Iirc Rad told me who it was even though he died (which totally wasn’t cheating since host allowed it lmao).

    The main problem is that we only have half of the player list on right now, so it is really difficult to get an outside perspective. I’m lost and clueless, sorry guys.
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    Completed I like to believe it was a typo. Survivor...

    I like to believe it was a typo. Survivor flashbacks are the worst.
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    Completed I’m speechless. This can’t be...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#602)
    for the millionth time I am town bp. i lose if town wins.
    I’m speechless. This can’t be...
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    Completed Uhhh lol what is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#602)
    Quote Originally Posted by CometSmudge (#599)
    There is a very high chance Daisy is survivor.
    for the millionth time I am town bp. i lose if town wins.
    Uhhh lol what is this?
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    Completed It’s pretty much established that mafia has an...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#601)
    either comet or rad is lying. I doubt OpG is joat.

    I believe OpG is tracker.

    it is possible for mafia to have a rber.

    i don't think OpG is Joas or whatever the mafia version of joat is.

    it seems real convenient for joat to pop up and explain everything.

    I can see comet and rad both being scum.

    if OpG is joat then I think either rad or comet is the scum.

    cause joat, doc, and, cop be weird set up.


    remember I am town bp and not jester. if you remember that then some set up scenarios makes 0 sense.
    It’s pretty much established that mafia has an RBer UNLESS OPG lies, which I don’t see it likely happening.

    We have no vig, a protective role is pretty realistic unless someone CCs the claim.

    I’m tempted to just voting SG but that’s kinda unfair and based on what he said there’s a good chance he won’t be on anyways.
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    Completed OPG, SG, and Rad not being present in the moment...

    OPG, SG, and Rad not being present in the moment kinda hurts too.

    Daisy/Comet appear to be our two targets. I think we can all agree on that, correct?
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    Completed DaisyCloud while Rad did not necessarily TR DS D1...

    @DaisyCloud while Rad did not necessarily TR DS D1 (mostly just me and SG), there ate no posts that show that he was suspicious of him at any point. It’s really hard to say, though it would be logical to heal either me or Star.
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    Completed Based on the setup there’s only room for one more...

    Based on the setup there’s only room for one more mafia Comet. Otherwise we’re $%#!ed cause 7-4 is unfair imo.
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    Completed Because scum probably have fake claims, that may...

    Because scum probably have fake claims, that may be the case. We gotta read on behavior as well too.
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    Completed Just a reminder: there is no known tracker, can’t...

    Just a reminder: there is no known tracker, can’t base anything off false info.
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    Completed Btw we don’t know if there’s a tracker but OPG...

    Btw we don’t know if there’s a tracker but OPG has a tracking ability as JOAT.
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    Completed I see your take on Comet, but TP hunting is...

    I see your take on Comet, but TP hunting is pretty easy to do as both alignments. I’d say those would be NAI in some sense.

    Unless we $%#!ed up massively, there’s a good chance one of these flip scum.
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    Completed CometSmudge It’s not about if he was lying...

    ##Vote CometSmudge

    It’s not about if he was lying about being rbed tbh but whatever needs to get done.
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    Completed I also covered it in a few other posts (will link...

    Quote Originally Posted by ImjustaDude (#468)
    ##Vote Radiate


    I do not trust Comet btw. Only substantive posts are 156 and 364. I want to say there was slight defending on Cal in his readlist and subsequently after.It isn’t too far fetched since that was the $%#!tiest lynch wagon I’ve ever seen before.
    I also covered it in a few other posts (will link more if requested) and he’s there, but not necessarily in a good way. Like Daisy said, pretty much “frozen”.
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    Completed How about we talk about Comet here? That was my...

    How about we talk about Comet here? That was my original vote after Rad but deadlines made me panic sadly.
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    Completed The vote count is glitched.

    The vote count is glitched.
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