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    Completed congrats everyone, sad i missed reveal :(. gl...

    congrats everyone, sad i missed reveal .

    gl in finals and kick $%#!
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    Completed congrats to scum very wp, town did amazing too!...

    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#9536)
    gg, close one
    congrats to scum very wp, town did amazing too! overall very nice
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    Completed gg, close one

    gg, close one
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    Completed Axis

    ##Vote Axis
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    Completed I’m obviously self pressing here hello axis could...

    I’m obviously self pressing here hello axis could as well so it’s even
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    Completed Fext what are you actually doing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#2453)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2448)
    How is my wagon $%#! sus from someone that isn’t Plop or Santy conf biasing it help
    idk lol
    Fext what are you actually doing
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    Completed How is my wagon $%#! sus from someone that isn’t...

    How is my wagon $%#! sus from someone that isn’t Plop or Santy conf biasing it help
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    Completed What???? If Axis is town and I know I’m town then...

    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#2432)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#2415)
    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#2413)
    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#2401)
    Ploda lowkey ploppong off
    I'm glad someone sees what I'm seeing too!
    what
    Mendes said he'd rather vote for axis but voted for wisp because double town wagons are bad, isn't that like a perspective slip?
    What???? If Axis is town and I know I’m town then that means that both the wagons sucked and we get no info from it. I added Wisp because it’s 3 people in PoE and more likely to have a scum in it???
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    Completed Bro I legit explained it how is it sus.

    Bro I legit explained it how is it sus.
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    Completed If I die I NEED Ephemera to be a main wagon, I...

    If I die I NEED Ephemera to be a main wagon, I think that slot just needs pressure to come to a solution.

    Aro is a tougher cookie to crack for me though, just watch the processes and see how he gets around his reads and how bold he looks with them.
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    Completed I pre announced I’d most likely be doing that, I...

    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#2391)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2377)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#2371)
    Actually, one vote from Axis to either MEndes vs Wisp makes it a tie. There are three viable wagons there ngl.
    @Santygrass this exact reason for why it’s a BAD idea for me to split here as scum lol
    If they do that you self pres back onto AXIS tho? Not much prblem
    I pre announced I’d most likely be doing that, I can’t concentrate on rereading Wisp right now so I might probably just go back.

    I hate when the wagons aren’t what I want :/
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    Completed Santygrass this exact reason for why it’s a BAD...

    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#2371)
    Actually, one vote from Axis to either MEndes vs Wisp makes it a tie. There are three viable wagons there ngl.
    @Santygrass this exact reason for why it’s a BAD idea for me to split here as scum lol
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    Completed ^

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2361)
    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#2355)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2302)
    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#2287)
    WE need, or YOU need?
    This is silly come on, a 2 wagon EoD could be deadly if it’s double town.
    What do you mean by "if" it's double town?
    top two wagons are v/v i assume is what mendes meant
    ^
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    Completed Honestly idk what this says but I’m decently...

    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#2352)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#2332)
    Quote Originally Posted by supershorty (#2312)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#2300)
    The bolded is a towny thought by Mendes.
    Why is that towny?
    Well, because town usually need to work with their other towns to create wagons and establish who they want to kill. Staying on a slot that gains less traction when being opposed to what ur other towns are doing is not cooperative if that makes sense.

    Also, if Mendes if mafia and if Axis is town, Mendes could just keep his vote on me and no need to make such a statement. Just a thought that popped in my head.
    For W!Mendes , being the only cw to V!AXIS is a bad look for them in the next day I feel like. And even like, with 2 cw is less likely he ends up being chopped if somehow AXIS is not the lynch.

    Like, there is a lot of W incentives in that vote I feel like. And just like their vote on you early this day its opportunistic
    Honestly idk what this says but I’m decently confident I’m not going over today over Axis, You can take this with a grain of salt but I would let Axis just flip here since I have availability to pivot, I don’t really need a second wagon to make it more split. More split would mean that Id be closer to getting voted especially since Axis was leading
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    Completed Try the second half of the post again 😭😭

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2345)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2338)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2320)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2302)
    This is silly come on, a 2 wagon EoD could be deadly if it’s double town.
    how much do you actually sus on axis/wisp
    They’re both null, Wisp was slightly .001% more sus but honestly Fext’s reasoning on comparing games had me thinking that I may want to stop at Axis.

    I’d of course rather go one of Aro/Ephe but like that’s not going to happen lol.
    💀

    what were your scum reads again?

    Heads empty
    Try the second half of the post again 😭😭
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    Completed Responded, I didn’t have time while post capped...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2334)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2327)
    I’ll take some of the sus I’ve been getting but like the wagon thing is ridiculous lol, 3 different PoE players is almost always better than 2.
    P#2320 just curious
    Responded, I didn’t have time while post capped to review, I had to finish up irl things. My reads on both still stand but I remember more from Fext on what he said about Axis. I’m kind of indifferent but ugh.
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    Completed They’re both null, Wisp was slightly .001% more...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2320)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2302)
    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#2287)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2283)
    We’re good hello.

    I think I’d rather go Axis so my vote is there in spirit but we need another wagon

    ##Vote Wisp
    WE need, or YOU need?
    This is silly come on, a 2 wagon EoD could be deadly if it’s double town.
    how much do you actually sus on axis/wisp
    They’re both null, Wisp was slightly .001% more sus but honestly Fext’s reasoning on comparing games had me thinking that I may want to stop at Axis.

    I’d of course rather go one of Aro/Ephe but like that’s not going to happen lol.
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    Completed I’ll take some of the sus I’ve been getting but...

    I’ll take some of the sus I’ve been getting but like the wagon thing is ridiculous lol, 3 different PoE players is almost always better than 2.
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    Completed This is silly come on, a 2 wagon EoD could be...

    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#2287)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#2283)
    We’re good hello.

    I think I’d rather go Axis so my vote is there in spirit but we need another wagon

    ##Vote Wisp
    WE need, or YOU need?
    This is silly come on, a 2 wagon EoD could be deadly if it’s double town.
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    Completed Aro never goes over today and someone said that I...

    Aro never goes over today and someone said that I should be on a main wagon pre game instead of voting outside and not making impact.

    I don’t town either Wisp or Axis so I’m not heartbroken but I can’t say my Wisp read is incredibly up to date, I’ll skim his posts while keeping thread open to verify.
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    Completed We’re good hello. I think I’d rather go Axis...

    We’re good hello.

    I think I’d rather go Axis so my vote is there in spirit but we need another wagon

    ##Vote Wisp
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    Completed Give me 10 more minutes parents and stuff

    Give me 10 more minutes parents and stuff
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    Completed Also Axis like I said, I never scum read you, if...

    Also Axis like I said, I never scum read you, if you can find a post where I did let me know, I said you were HARD STUCK null until flips
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    Completed Ephemera isn’t coming unfortunately, probably...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2105)
    The silence is outing, it seems Ephemera eats cereal with a fork
    Ephemera isn’t coming unfortunately, probably messed up to go there
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    Completed top 10 moments before disaster hi

    Quote Originally Posted by Arete (#1957)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#1)
    150 posts per player per Game Day (restriction is lifted 1 hour before EOD though
    @MendesHotter
    top 10 moments before disaster

    hi
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    Completed 20 more mins till post cap lifted so that’s...

    20 more mins till post cap lifted so that’s exciting, feel like I can make my last post on things.

    @AXIS can you quote where I ever scum read you? p#738 is the only post I can see that could be interpreted into a scum lean, but other people have also said you have had the same posting style. I have not PUSHED you for posting like this, I have said this was all NAI and I can’t deduct a stance on your posts because of it. Like everything does make sense, but I HARD TOWNED YOU LAST GAME FOR THE SAME THING. How are you going to expect me to just let you by again, you are being u fair and blowing my reads out of proportion.

    My list is basically the same and I still don’t know how to read Axis, like his processes have been fine but last game they were also fine. I want to see flips before I can develop a true read.

    Fext is going up a bit more as well I like his reevaluation on my slot, Im still wary that it’s lowkey a pocket though but I sort of kinda like it idk.

    Everything else stays the same though about almost everything, I’ll skim an Aro iso again and just triple check that Im okay still pushing there because I think Aro is a very telling flip for people, Axis is one of them. That on top of my position on him is enough so far for me. I know Ephe wagon will have no traction so Im not going to bother much there for today.

    @Arete my plan was already said in p#1566.

    That’s all and can’t wait to be in the post cap world adios.

    A lot of stuff you guys ask I’ve already said, like Axis saying I scum read him when it didn’t happen, me posting my Jmw town meta on him, my plan coming through as both alignments. Just a point because I think alot of my progression is there but shrug
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    Completed I’m Mans Ever Never Does Ever Scum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#1851)
    mendes if you're town say "i'm scum"
    I’m Mans Ever Never Does Ever Scum.
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    Completed Wisp honestly my biggest dig at Ephemera is how...

    @Wisp honestly my biggest dig at Ephemera is how much they remind me of their treatment on me compared to how they wolfed against me last game. Very dismissive and immediate pushing on me I didn’t like, like I’m conf scum to them and didn’t consider possibility of me being town. I’ll reverify town Ephe’s play in g4 but I don’t recall Ephe doing that to anybody there.
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    Completed ToS is basically exactly how it is on my home...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumi (#1635)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#1627)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumi (#1624)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1617)
    he has, just never on forum
    @MendesHotter

    what's the deal here? xP

    Having been wolf before in your home community definitely counts as having been wolf before
    does it count if it was in town of salem

    because I've done that, and the goal there is to just be loud enough to not be jailed or vfr'd so you don't have to claim as long as possible, without being so loud that somebody demands your role for your position as a town leader, and then pick easy fights with people you can get picked off during the day

    which would not work here lmao
    Absolutely not lmao

    I've never played Town of Salem, but the Sc2 Mod which my homesite is based around was the precursor to Town of Salem (the skin of the Sc2Mod's creator, DarkRevenant, is in Town of Salem!). The first versions of Town of Salem were almost a direct port of the mod.

    And, ya, the gameplay for scum in those kinds of games is almost entirely not-transferrable to a FM setting lmao.




    Anyway, I have to go for real this time.

    I'm kind of at the point where I don't want a Mendes chop today.
    ToS is basically exactly how it is on my home community, again if anyone would like to verify mafia mystery on app store
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    Completed OH MY GOD EPHEMERA NO WAY YOU JUST SAID THAT. ...

    OH MY GOD EPHEMERA NO WAY YOU JUST SAID THAT.

    Last game you directly town read me because I explained my situation, I have wolfed in games that are 6v10 which the only requirement is to counterclaim a single role to survive. This environment is 100% different from my home site. Even if you want to confirm that you can check on mafia mystery on app store. Majority of my wolf games are in 2min day night phases or 1 min day night phases. My 24hr experience consists of literally “I’m cop” “Oh I cc cop, you’re lying.”

    The most advanced wolf tactics on my site is Kamikaze tricking and faking cop leads, I’ve NEVER had to blend like this before and that’s ticking me off because you know that Ephe.
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    Completed I was looking for everything in P#1309, nice and...

    Quote Originally Posted by jmwjmw27 (#1615)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1571)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#1530)
    New day new readslist

    plopadop
    jmwjmw27
    Cobalt

    supershorty
    TheCapsFan
    Santygrass

    Wisp
    AXIS

    Arete
    Lumi
    ThePretender

    MendesHotter
    arogame123
    Ephemera
    The $%#! so we agree on a lot of stuff and I’m down here???

    I can’t waste posts so @TheCapsFan I actually did read into a mafia game of Jmw, admittedly it’s a team game so it’s a bit different but he went from decently town to scum was because of how floaty he was. Compared to his town game,and what sold me most was the s/w read, it feels autopilot town to just do a read like that at the start instead of doing it to replicate. Plus his reads list is nice and I feel like he believes what he’s saying.

    @jmwjmw27 That’s why I townread you.
    Could you clarify what “the s/w read” is? Was that the W/W Arete/Eph read?

    I’ll be honest, knowing my own meta I can sort of see this but your level of confidence plus the pre-outlined points you mentioned in your spongebob reads (loved the theme of that btw) don’t really show here. I’m just seeing you noticed my relatively weaker play in that teams game as scum. If doing so wouldn’t ruin any of your plans could you at least point out one specific thing you were going to look for and what old post(s) of mine gave you the inclination to look for it?
    I was looking for everything in P#1309, nice and brief and you did just about everything I needed to see.
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    Completed Look at my game win rate! I’m surprised you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumi (#1612)
    @MendesHotter

    Have you seriously never been wolf before?
    Look at my game win rate! I’m surprised you haven’t heard about this tbh, I feel like we had this convo at least in spec chat before. Im also surprised that you didn’t hear that from people who thought I was cool, my whole gimmick is Im man ever never does ever scum after all!
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    Completed He hit some town points so it was a decent lean...

    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#1607)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1599)
    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#1597)
    My biggest problem with Mendes is that I cant buy how strong is their TR on jmw. Like, comparing to another game (which was a teamed wowee) and liking some stuff is good. But Strong Town for that I cant buy.

    I feel like they are exxagerating the townread on jmw out of necessity to give more validity to the Eph/jmw thingy they done or something like that
    So you’re saying that I set this push on Ephe all up BEFORE. I said from the start I liked Jmw you can even see it! p#738 this was before I even started pushing Ephe and he did the w/w read he does which to me says autopilot town just because that’s how he would think as town.
    To better reply to what you are referring here. No, I am not saying that up set up the push. I even noted in your ISO the one where you said that aro/eph may be W/W and then failed to give interactions and talked about it!

    What I mean is that I feel like you had jmw as Townlean, but after eph noted that you were assumin jmw was town for your push, you had the necessity to amplify your Vread on them and that feels kinda artificial to me ig.
    He hit some town points so it was a decent lean then he dropped his list and that’s literally the town progression I have for him.

    Also side for Plop I don’t have anybodys prior read list I want to let go of yet, besdies most of my nulls/scum ARE from g4 so that should be a heads up that I’m not using them to make a push for bs reasons.
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    Completed So you’re saying that I set this push on Ephe all...

    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#1597)
    My biggest problem with Mendes is that I cant buy how strong is their TR on jmw. Like, comparing to another game (which was a teamed wowee) and liking some stuff is good. But Strong Town for that I cant buy.

    I feel like they are exxagerating the townread on jmw out of necessity to give more validity to the Eph/jmw thingy they done or something like that
    So you’re saying that I set this push on Ephe all up BEFORE. I said from the start I liked Jmw you can even see it! p#738 this was before I even started pushing Ephe and he did the w/w read he does which to me says autopilot town just because that’s how he would think as town.
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    Completed It also means that it’ll be inefficient to just...

    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#1578)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1575)
    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#1568)
    I'll start with this, since you're here, Mendes:

    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1444)
    Jmw = Patrick: The way Jmw is replicating his town game right now is honestly very underrated so far in the game, he’s nailed all my town tells that I’ve written for him pre game.
    Could you please copy and paste the pre-written town tells you wrote up for your special dime reads? I understand not wanting to share the ones you have for your nullreads and scumreads, but if you feel confident enough that those towns are special dime tier then it shouldn't be a deal to share em, right?
    My personally dime reads are that and 2 g4 members who I did not meta for obvious reasons lol. Many other players are harder to dissect for me because most of them can fake a d1 more effectively from what I’ve seen.

    Only saying this because in the team game Jmw was in he got immediately pushed as scum.
    I getcha, but I'd still like to see those copy and pasted points you pre-wrote all the same.
    It also means that it’ll be inefficient to just SAY my points to everyone because the of players I have are either in scum range or just null to me regardless right now. Some are less likely but are capable and I don’t think letting them adapt is the right play, can’t show all my cards.
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    Completed My personally dime reads are that and 2 g4...

    Quote Originally Posted by plopadop (#1568)
    I'll start with this, since you're here, Mendes:

    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1444)
    Jmw = Patrick: The way Jmw is replicating his town game right now is honestly very underrated so far in the game, he’s nailed all my town tells that I’ve written for him pre game.
    Could you please copy and paste the pre-written town tells you wrote up for your special dime reads? I understand not wanting to share the ones you have for your nullreads and scumreads, but if you feel confident enough that those towns are special dime tier then it shouldn't be a deal to share em, right?
    My personally dime reads are that and 2 g4 members who I did not meta for obvious reasons lol. Many other players are harder to dissect for me because most of them can fake a d1 more effectively from what I’ve seen.

    Only saying this because in the team game Jmw was in he got immediately pushed as scum.
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    Completed The $%#! so we agree on a lot of stuff and I’m...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#1530)
    New day new readslist

    plopadop
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    supershorty
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    arogame123
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    The $%#! so we agree on a lot of stuff and I’m down here???

    I can’t waste posts so @TheCapsFan I actually did read into a mafia game of Jmw, admittedly it’s a team game so it’s a bit different but he went from decently town to scum was because of how floaty he was. Compared to his town game,and what sold me most was the s/w read, it feels autopilot town to just do a read like that at the start instead of doing it to replicate. Plus his reads list is nice and I feel like he believes what he’s saying.

    @jmwjmw27 That’s why I townread you.
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    Completed I feel like we both know you aren’t going to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#1491)
    @MendesHotter


    You said pre-rand this game you were and I quote.

    “Pre-planning strategies for either alignment.”


    How’s that going.

    Are you on plan?


    I’d love to know what the two plans are. But I doubt you’d tell me.


    But just how it’s going. Is the game you’ve shown so far “on plan”.
    I feel like we both know you aren’t going to buy my answer

    Town plan: Correct reads and make sure I have a good grasp on as much as the lobby as I can. Be efficient with reads and be open to everything
    Scum plan: Do the mendes thing where I blend in and put charm in my posts/imitate my town game.

    So far yeah I’m pretty happy with how things are going, honestly I already feel happier than just hardcore tunneling one person one day and hardcore tunneling another another day. I’ve actually scummed people like Santy before and I’ve brought him to a town read. Things like that make me happy I’m not being completely close sighted right now (I know Ephe will disagree lol.)
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    Completed It was like so so slight that I couldn’t really...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#1509)
    Mendes: "Wisp null, but also scum lean"
    It was like so so slight that I couldn’t really put you in anywhere else lol.

    Goodmorning, I’m going to save up my posts now.
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    Completed I hate myself for responding You sus me, I’m...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumi (#1471)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1444)
    THE SPONGEBOB THEORY




    Hopefully you guys watched Spongebob lol, I don’t know if I’ll finish the post tonight but I’ll post what I have before sleeping.

    Town



    Lumi = Spongebob: The way that they asked me about my reads and overall help not only me, but a few other people by asking questions as well as reach a solid conclusion on reads make me think that this slot is just pure and town. Just like spongebob would, trying to bring a healthy game state which honestly feels good

    Pretender = Mermaid Man: Pretender is on the same level (I town then more because they replicate their town game well from g4 and have solid thoughts) But seems to always want to do the right thing and reach good conclusions. He’s staying curious and wants to save the day by generated a solid list for himself to work from there.

    Shorty = Larry: Another strong town and seems consciously seen as a good and solid town to the core. I won’t lie I’ve been sheeping this read a bit but nothing directly pinged me from Shorty’s posts and I’m overall fine with keeping them in that spot.

    Jmw = Patrick: The way Jmw is replicating his town game right now is honestly very underrated so far in the game, he’s nailed all my town tells that I’ve written for him pre game. He seems to be just eh to a lot just because of the low posting but the intentions are pure to me and replicate well. Just like patrick, very misunderstood so far.

    Town Lean

    Arete = Squilliam: Honestly I feel Arete has a lot of faith in his own work and deduction skills and believes in his solve so far. My strongest lean and has a nice ring of confidence just like Squilliam does. I don’t really see him as a mafia right now.

    Caps = Sandy: Sandy is kind of a hard $%#! and doesn’t let much bs go by, Caps really is trying to keep a line straight but he’s doing it in a more relaxed way this game. The way he’s been going around trying to get his takes has been good and I’d personally town hard (only reason he’s slightly lower is because other people are saying he’s scumming which is scaring me, never lynch today though.)

    Santy = My leg guy: Santy has put up with me at the start of the game and I think the way he’s recovered is pretty good! I did push him early for a RVS I didn’t like but the way he’s questions and reaching to conclusions feels nice. I wouldn’t bet the whole game on it but I’m decently confident for now

    Cobalt = Barnicle Boy: Honestly I do need to go over this slot again but we mindmelded on Aro and Jmw and those are some of my strongest current reads so he’s slight above null. Feels like a partner to me like Barnicle Boy tbh!

    Null

    Fext = Old Man Jenkins: Fext is playing like a side player right now and isn’t doing anything too crazy, I don’t have a reason to really town read him yet but nothing has straight pinged me either.

    Wisp = Pearl: Wisp’s vote on Aro doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially with Axis as their current main sus. Wisp didn’t clarify on Aro much, just dipped. Pearl as well doesn’t know what she wants all the time, sometimes she does it to be bad though, this could be the same case! Very slight scum read.

    Plop: Painty the Pirate: He made a huge $%#! readlist that could be good, most of the conclusions are fine but I’m not entirely convinced yet, I’d like to see more from Plop like live in game instead of playing catch-up to make an actual developed read.


    Axis = Squidward: Hes being very grouchy with me smh. I still don’t think I can develop a good read with how he’s currently playing because I don’t think his takes have been a reason to obvious town him, they could be faked but I don’t know a true way to verify it for my happiness. So instead Im keeping him null


    Scum

    Aro = Gary: Just like Gary, Aro has “a way with words” that feel a bit slimely, like Gary! I don’t like how he’s been trying to avoid making a hard stance on a lot of things besides his town core, but it’s hard to consider that a HARD HARD stance for me because a lot of people are in it, it just feels as it holds less value to me. Maybe it’s a personality thing but that’s not really my main problem anyway. The grain of salt reads really didn’t feel right with me either


    Ephe = Plankton: Ephemera has just tried to discredit me, just like Plankton trying to discredit the Krusty Krab tbh, but also tries to steal the secret formula, like how Ephe has been trying to use a similar read I have on Aro without giving me credit. They just blindly want me dead and didn’t really consider the thought of me being town which isn’t like them because they know how crazy I think with alot of thing. I haven’t been happy enough was one of their main reasons but I just don’t think reactions were warranted at the times you called me out for it



    Lastly there’s Mendes! Mr Krabs!!! For the most part I like to sit back and just hang around with my money (my reads.) Not all of them are set in stone because I have alot of thoughts, but Mr Krabs has alot of money! I do have a couple of special dime (if you get that episode refrence thats +1 for u tbh.) Those reads for me are my two scum reads and my town reads on Pret, Caps, and Jmw.

    That’s about all I got and I hope this makes my list a bit more entertaining and easy to read. I’m gassed this took a while lol.
    Your reads list:
    Town - Me
    Pretender - Town reads you
    Shorty - Town reads you
    jmw - Null reads you

    Arete - Null reads you
    Caps - Null reads you
    Santy - Town reads you
    Cobalt - Scum reads you

    Fext - Scum reads you
    Wisp - Null reads you
    Plop - Scum reads you
    AXIS - Scum reads you

    Aro - Town reads you
    Eph - Scum reads you


    Barring a few exceptions, the order of your reads list is almost entirely the same as the order of how much people scum read you vs town read you.

    Are you worried that maybe OMGUS and a defensive view that wolves want to kill town therefore people that want to kill you are wolves might be clouding your vision from the possibility that wolves know you're town and can see that there is enough suspicion on you that they don't need to get their hands dirty pushing you when they could just pocket you instead?

    Does that change your reads list at all?
    I hate myself for responding

    You sus me, I’m null to Fext now I believe, and I didn’t even know Cobalt was scum reading me admittedly like I said I need to reread him.

    I genuinely don’t think that assessment is true at all. When Caps was scum reading me it was a prime example of that.

    I don’t town read Pret, Shorty, or Santy town because they are town reading me the same way I dont null any of the people in null for scum reading me. It’s about the process on everybody for me and I think that I’m not really being clouded by others, but it’s more just they don’t want to believe in me. Aro I scum read even though he has me as town as well so I guess if that’s what you mean then yeah that could be the case, but I don’t really purely sus Aro to his approach on me, it’s his approach to the game that’s bugging me.
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    Completed Was looking at Arete voting process, this fr my...

    Was looking at Arete voting process, this fr my last post for the night I really can’t help it lmao

    Also disappointed at lack of attention my list got I thought it was cool :/

    gn
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    Completed This wagon was 5/5 on towns I had until Wisp...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1467)
    Retrospective Day 1 Votecount as of Post #1231

    Post #1231 was originally posted at 10:42 PM EDT on Friday, July 29th, 2022.

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    6 arogame123 Lumi (86), Cobalt (52), MendesHotter (108), supershorty (67), jmwjmw27 (26), Wisp (83)
    2 Wisp Fext (85), arogame123 (119)
    1 AXIS Santygrass (87)
    1 Lumi AXIS (61)
    1 MendesHotter Ephemera (116)
    1 Arete TheCapsFan (67)
    3 Not voting plopadop (20), ThePretender (77), Arete (104)

    View Vote History

    Requested by MendesHotter.
    This wagon was 5/5 on towns I had until Wisp joined it Im just realizing it.
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    Completed I really don’t think my post is being interpreted...

    I really don’t think my post is being interpreted right :/. This is in the context that Jmw is a LOW POSTER this a LHF because they haven’t/aren’t making any impact yet imo. I’m not doubting jmw’s skill at all, i’m fact the reason he’s busy is the why he would be seen as a lhf. I think he’s town but would understand why. My whole point was the fact that Cappu had no reads and Jmw had little reads (this was before his wall.) I’m sorry if that was confusing in anyway.
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    Completed The deja vu is next level, that’s all I have to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1450)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1444)
    Ephe = Plankton: Ephemera has just tried to discredit me, just like Plankton trying to discredit the Krusty Krab tbh, but also tries to steal the secret formula, like how Ephe has been trying to use a similar read I have on Aro without giving me credit. They just blindly want me dead and didn’t really consider the thought of me being town which isn’t like them because they know how crazy I think with alot of thing. I haven’t been happy enough was one of their main reasons but I just don’t think reactions were warranted at the times you called me out for it
    your read on aro? don't make me laugh.

    that read on aro was in thread long before you ever made a case on it.
    and even if it *were* your thought i can have the same thought but think you're scum.

    ...get real, man.
    The deja vu is next level, that’s all I have to say.
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    Completed THE SPONGEBOB THEORY ...

    THE SPONGEBOB THEORY




    Hopefully you guys watched Spongebob lol, I don’t know if I’ll finish the post tonight but I’ll post what I have before sleeping.

    Town



    Lumi = Spongebob: The way that they asked me about my reads and overall help not only me, but a few other people by asking questions as well as reach a solid conclusion on reads make me think that this slot is just pure and town. Just like spongebob would, trying to bring a healthy game state which honestly feels good

    Pretender = Mermaid Man: Pretender is on the same level (I town then more because they replicate their town game well from g4 and have solid thoughts) But seems to always want to do the right thing and reach good conclusions. He’s staying curious and wants to save the day by generated a solid list for himself to work from there.

    Shorty = Larry: Another strong town and seems consciously seen as a good and solid town to the core. I won’t lie I’ve been sheeping this read a bit but nothing directly pinged me from Shorty’s posts and I’m overall fine with keeping them in that spot.

    Jmw = Patrick: The way Jmw is replicating his town game right now is honestly very underrated so far in the game, he’s nailed all my town tells that I’ve written for him pre game. He seems to be just eh to a lot just because of the low posting but the intentions are pure to me and replicate well. Just like patrick, very misunderstood so far.

    Town Lean

    Arete = Squilliam: Honestly I feel Arete has a lot of faith in his own work and deduction skills and believes in his solve so far. My strongest lean and has a nice ring of confidence just like Squilliam does. I don’t really see him as a mafia right now.

    Caps = Sandy: Sandy is kind of a hard $%#! and doesn’t let much bs go by, Caps really is trying to keep a line straight but he’s doing it in a more relaxed way this game. The way he’s been going around trying to get his takes has been good and I’d personally town hard (only reason he’s slightly lower is because other people are saying he’s scumming which is scaring me, never lynch today though.)

    Santy = My leg guy: Santy has put up with me at the start of the game and I think the way he’s recovered is pretty good! I did push him early for a RVS I didn’t like but the way he’s questions and reaching to conclusions feels nice. I wouldn’t bet the whole game on it but I’m decently confident for now

    Cobalt = Barnicle Boy: Honestly I do need to go over this slot again but we mindmelded on Aro and Jmw and those are some of my strongest current reads so he’s slight above null. Feels like a partner to me like Barnicle Boy tbh!

    Null

    Fext = Old Man Jenkins: Fext is playing like a side player right now and isn’t doing anything too crazy, I don’t have a reason to really town read him yet but nothing has straight pinged me either.

    Wisp = Pearl: Wisp’s vote on Aro doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially with Axis as their current main sus. Wisp didn’t clarify on Aro much, just dipped. Pearl as well doesn’t know what she wants all the time, sometimes she does it to be bad though, this could be the same case! Very slight scum read.

    Plop: Painty the Pirate: He made a huge $%#! readlist that could be good, most of the conclusions are fine but I’m not entirely convinced yet, I’d like to see more from Plop like live in game instead of playing catch-up to make an actual developed read.


    Axis = Squidward: Hes being very grouchy with me smh. I still don’t think I can develop a good read with how he’s currently playing because I don’t think his takes have been a reason to obvious town him, they could be faked but I don’t know a true way to verify it for my happiness. So instead Im keeping him null


    Scum

    Aro = Gary: Just like Gary, Aro has “a way with words” that feel a bit slimely, like Gary! I don’t like how he’s been trying to avoid making a hard stance on a lot of things besides his town core, but it’s hard to consider that a HARD HARD stance for me because a lot of people are in it, it just feels as it holds less value to me. Maybe it’s a personality thing but that’s not really my main problem anyway. The grain of salt reads really didn’t feel right with me either


    Ephe = Plankton: Ephemera has just tried to discredit me, just like Plankton trying to discredit the Krusty Krab tbh, but also tries to steal the secret formula, like how Ephe has been trying to use a similar read I have on Aro without giving me credit. They just blindly want me dead and didn’t really consider the thought of me being town which isn’t like them because they know how crazy I think with alot of thing. I haven’t been happy enough was one of their main reasons but I just don’t think reactions were warranted at the times you called me out for it



    Lastly there’s Mendes! Mr Krabs!!! For the most part I like to sit back and just hang around with my money (my reads.) Not all of them are set in stone because I have alot of thoughts, but Mr Krabs has alot of money! I do have a couple of special dime (if you get that episode refrence thats +1 for u tbh.) Those reads for me are my two scum reads and my town reads on Pret, Caps, and Jmw.

    That’s about all I got and I hope this makes my list a bit more entertaining and easy to read. I’m gassed this took a while lol.
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    Completed Lol nevermind, good catch. Honestly I was...

    Lol nevermind, good catch.

    Honestly I was reminded for a different player Aersodolf from my game last year. He pushed a player (Silverkeith) and got lynched for it and he was town, nobody was even considering SK to be mafia and since it was so out of place I felt it was town. I tried applying the same logic here but timeline makes it harder for me to do that. I also didn’t even realize that Wisp was on Aro, Wisp didn’t really sus him at all in the iso, Aro wasn’t on his whole read list while Axis was on the very bottom of the list and majority of Wisp’s latter half posts were pushing Axis

    Strange.
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    Completed That’s actually a fair point, I think this was...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#1391)
    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1376)
    I just Isoed Wisp and it somehow brought me back to thinking about Ephe, I hate sucking at scum reading

    Anyway, Wisp I have as a slight town lean I don’t really have much reason to completely town then but I do like the world Wisp is in. It’s not really affecting anything and isn’t really accomplishing anything from a scum POV? Wisp scum reads Acis and is just bouncing around a lot of other people which in my experience is more likely town than not early game. I don’t like when people open a lot of possibilities but Wisp isn’t doing it in a forceful way and shoving it down peoples throats, it feels genuine m. Not an incredibly strong read but I’m not interested lynching there today.
    How is bolded the case? Lets assume v!aro, it's a free mislynch ride. It's not like they're hard pushing anything but letting the town blown each other up potentially, not every scum mate needs to have dominate thread control
    That’s actually a fair point, I think this was before Aro got serious heat though, I’ll check the posts.

    As for the post Axis just made, Lumi asked me a question and I provided an answer. They asked how you looked like you were posting the same, can you link posts. That’s what I did, I’m explaining my thoughts. Why are you saying there’s no point when Lumi asked me to do that? I never really said it was scum for Axis I just don’t think he’s readable currently.
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