Type: Posts; User: LordQuas
i'll take it
this is good
You can argue this, you can try whining, you can complain all you damn well like, but you know it and I know it. I'm just better. So the sooner we can establish this the sooner you can start listening to me. I'm going to solve this game, it's just inevitable. The only way we could possibly lose is if the rest of you decide to break rank or if there's some bull$%#! mechanic like a day 1 wolf vigilante or triple godfathers that get greenpeeked or something.
"Oh but LordQuas what if you're a wolf?!!!?" some of you are probably panicking and thinking right now. There may even be some people that ask this type of stuff in the thread, although they are >rand to be wolves that have recognized my unstoppable villagery fury and are looking for anyway to sway the masses against me already in a desperate attempt to salvage this rand. This is a futile question. It's so futile in fact that I shouldn't even be giving it the time of day to answer but luckily for you I'm feeling pretty generous today. If I'm a wolf this game, I'm going to be so villagery and run this game so well anyways that you're probably better of listening to me and hope I die to an event. There's just no way any of you could catch me as a wolf. It's just not possible. So considering that is a foregone conclusion, if you really are town its in your best interest to just count on me to carry.
Now with that all out of the way (and I assume I don't need to list my credentials, my reputation should speak for itself here), it's time to get down to business.
Act 1; How I'm Going To Solve This Game; The Plan; General Outline (Rough Draft)
Step One: I'm going to need complete and total control of events. Ideally I should be the only person entering events so I can get the rewards, but I've found that most of the times the fascist hosts don't allow that and consider it "against the spirit of the game" or whatever. Just general losers talk. There's a chance these game hosts are more reasonable but I'm not counting on it. Instead I'm going to need everyone to defer to my judgement in events. This might mean I win every event, or sometimes it might mean I give the event win to someone else, or I force event deaths on players. Honestly it just depends on how the situation develops and its something not even I know, so you know its some pretty complicated stuff. This might be slightly difficult as a lot of hosts even allow people to throw events (and not all events even allow private communication and conference about them), so I'm going to be sending my orders in coded messages. You might be getting a little worried that the hosts are going to start cracking down on this stuff. Don't be. Even on the slim chance that the hosts decided to read this (for some reason hosts never read my posts, I don't really understand) they would have to be able to pierce through the cleverly designed anti-host avoidance veil near the top (don't bother asking what it is, I'm not going to tell you). AND EVEN IF there's a snake that leaks this to one of them, it's not a big deal I'll just pass it off as a joke (haha). Anyways, I'm planning on using an Affine Cipher (a+11) to encode my messages. If anyone gets suspicious just dismiss it with a "my hand was on the wrong place on the keyboard," or maybe something about how auto correct must be on the fritz. Yes I only play on my blackberry. Yes I only type on phones with keyboards, touchscreens are a plague of mediocrity on this society. If you don't know how to decode as Affine Cipher, first off, shame on you, second you can use this website. I'm putting my pride aside here just to work together with you to make this doable, so you better be thankful. And make sure to add 11 to "a" in the settings. You don't want to be that guy clogging the thread trying to figure out how to understand my messages. Trust me.
Step Two: Give me control of the shots lists. It's undeniable the most important weapon town has in mashes are ITAs. Quite frankly they're broken. It's like a million different lynches but your vote means even more than usual. I still think they should be banned under the Geneva Convention but until the mods decide to listen to me (respond to my msgs please) we're just going to have to deal with easy win after easy win. This will start with me leaving you a shots list to pursue on d2. I'll post this towards the end of d1. I've been punished before for assuming I would live to d2 because of the numerous heals I would undoubtedly have on me from strongmans and redirectors. These may or may not exist in this setup, but I'm going to be taking as little risks as possible. We're going to grind the wolves out of this game. Assuming I live to d2, I will allow you to play your games freely for the most part, only stepping in now and again to ask a few clarifying questions. But once each ITA session roles around I expect everyone to defer to my shot calling (literally and figuratively). There will naturally be some wolves outing to shoot me in ITA 1. For our sake I hope they get unlucky. Just the nature of the game. My shots lists will not be always people I think are wolves, so don't panic if someone off of them flips town. Instead I will be focusing on players that would take longer to solve (but of course I would get them eventually). My time is limited so even though I can eventually read everyone with 100% accuracy, I'll likely only have a couple days or so to do it. In that situation, the clock is the enemy, not necessarily the wolves. Killing a person who I'm 50/50 on that will take me a few more days to be certain one way or the other is more valuable than killing a wolf who I have already solved.
Step Two Point Five: I considered whether this should be a step or not, but I feel like its important to address the nature of the lynch. This is one of few major game functions that I'm going to leave unaddressed. Feel free to vote in whatever weird direction you want to, I'm not stopping anyone. The lynch has such a relatively small game impact in a 40 player game that it shouldn't interfere with my plans in any SUPER meaningful way (don't be afraid, seriously, there's no wrong vote here). Instead I will by using the data I gather from wagonomics to pin a few more critical wolves and clear a few night impossible to read towns.
Step Three: Night actions. One of the hardest to abuse aspects of a mash in my opinion, and since my opinion is likely correct, I think we can all agree here. If there's anything in my near flawless road to success that is going to change, it's probably going to be something here. In case you need a quick reference to your role overnight after you've finished reading this in its entirety, I've bolded the names for you to skip to. I only know my role (and it doesn't even matter if the wolves know that I'm a strong PR or not since they're gunning for me already), so I might as well come out and say that my role is pretty bad. I hesitate to say useless, but 99% of the possible worlds will see me dead before I'm able to get it to do anything. And should I live long enough to see the benefits anyways, the game is won. Whats more important is that I direct the rest of town's night actions. Doctors will all heal me. This should go without saying, but I understand that sometimes people get it in their heads that they can try "WIFOMing" and healing someone else. This mistake is so rookie like that I would hesitate to even call it that. Its closer to just being foolish. Wolves will be taking any potential chance they have to kill me shy of it outright losing them the game. If it means likely wasting a single kill for that >0.1% chance that I die, they'll do it. Vigilantes should only be shooting at 1. outed wolves and 2. subs or extreme low posters. This is assuming I haven't already given out my comprehensive read list, which will be coming at some point during the game. Also if I for some reason tell you to shoot someone later, shoot them. Mafia is a fluid game and prone to changes. Dont holster because holstering is bad, but in the extreme unlikely case that there isnt any of these to shoot at, you may shoot at a player of your choice, we can probably come back from any mistakes you make. Cops peek who you want. I can understand the temptation of being able to single handedly win yourself the game, but don't bother wasting a peek on me. If you aren't certain I'm town then I'm almost certainly town. Me as a wolf would never leave even an ounce of doubt in your mind. Peeks are a valuable resource, so let's treat them as such. Watcher don't go on me. This is because there will be so many players on me during the night that you wont get any relevant info, even if I am the night kill. Roleblockers should holster or go on people expressly claimed. You could also go on me, but it will be essentially holstering since the wolves will be roleblocking me anyways. We can't risk town roleblocking doctors and giving the wolves a free kill on me. Its unfortunate, but your role is basically useless until I'm dead. All other misc roles that dont have negative effects go on me, this is to prevent mafia watchers from identifying the doctors healing me. Misc roles with negative effects that dont roleblock or kill feel free to target anyone. Its in your hands.
Step Four: At some point during the game, I will post my full readslist. It will have 100% or near 100% accuracy. I won't go into the details on how I've arrived at these reads as most of it will probably go over everyone's heads. Just trust that they're correct.
Act 2; So I've Solved The Game, What Next? The Life, Death, and Memory of LordQuas; A Prehumous Memorial For Posthumous Sensibilities
At some point during this game before end game, I will die. It will just happen. I'm not sure how, but I'm damn well sure why. I'm just too big of a threat, even after I've shot my proverbial load. The wolves simply need me gone. I've already made plans to delay this inevitably as long as possible (plans which you've all read), but the simple fact is I'm not God. They will get me eventually. I know this will be sad for many of you, I can hardly stand to not hear myself speak for just a few minutes, so the likely several days many of you will have to endure "Quas-less" will be heartbreaking. I'm dedicating this section to just writing a few of my wittyest quips that you can come back to when times are dark and your minds begin to inevitably wander. These will help you keep sharp and have your eyes on the prize.
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Act 3; The Final Steps; Turning One Man's Triumph Into A Complete Full Game Victory
At this point, I have both solved the game and I am also dead. Gone. My ashes are being spread in the wind. It is up to all of you to carry out my legacy and finish what I started. Yes, you must kill the remaining wolves. They will be slippery, I have done my best to nail them to a wall for you, but they will claim "how could one person possibly nail all the wolves so early, they were wrong. I'm a villager." I wish I could relate to the sentiment that you will be feeling, as then I would be able to give you better advice on how to counteract it, but as it stands I have simply never been on that end of the game solving formula. Nevertheless, I will do my best to assure you that my reads will be correct, were correct, and are correct.
1. How accurate has my list been? Has it been perfect so far? It has.
2. Do I believe in you? I do. Do I think you can win this game for me? I do.
3. Am I counting on you to win this game for me? I am.
4. Who will take the blame should my list be wrong and you follow it? I will.
5. Who will take the blame should you deviate from my list and it is right? You will.
6. When considering points 4 & 5 in conjunction, it is simply put in your best interests to follow my directions until it is proven that I no longer "have the stuff." Luckily for all of you, I am not quite yet washed up.
Act 3; Intermission 1; A Quick Respite
Seriously, go get hydrated. Hydrate or dydrate as they say. Do some stretches. Walk around for a bit. Sitting at a computer (or staring at your phone) for extended periods of time isn't healthy.
Act 3; Part 2; A Return To How To Transition From My Overwhelming Presence To A Town Victory
7. Try talking to the fellow towns I have suggested on my list. They might be having the same struggles you are. Consoling with them might lead you to the correct decision (which is sheeping me). Or perhaps they have already arrived at that conclusion and they can share with you their process and how it might help you to do the same.
Again, this is not my strong suit, so consult others that I deem as trustworthy and town to assure yourself that I am and alwas was correct. If you follow these steps (and my reads) then the game should end in a town victory.
Act 4; Post Game Etiquette; How Do You Address Me; Consorting With Your Fellow Players (Victors And Losers Alike)
Many foolishly believe that when the game is over, the game is over. How wrong can you be. Post game is where many see its their place to right the wrongs that have happened during the game, often through unpleasant words and blame. I myself have been partial on correcting a few people from time to time on their play, although in my case it was pretty different and I was largely justified. Some discussion of the game is of course allowed and encouraged, but please do not take it upon yourself to berate others in hopes that it will fix such problems in future games. That's my job.
Now let us talk about what is likely to be the most pressing question on your minds, how do you thank me properly? Well fear not, I am a humble man, and I don't require much. A simple thanks for my services will do, even just as a forum post is fine. Those that truly wish to go above and beyond may compose ballads of my deeds or draw fan art if they desire, but I really mean it when I say that is not necessary. It is certainly appreciated though, and a big thanks and shout-out to my numerous fans.
Lastly, cross-factional other players. Villagers, don't tease the wolves for crumbling too hard. And wolves, don't try to accuse the villagers of being carried. Simply put yourself in the others shoes for a second. If the random number generator had gone just a little differently, you would have been standing in their position and be none the better for it.
And with that I will thank you for reading my post. It is a bit on the skimpier side of things this time around I know, but I think it will make for both an enjoyable and enlightening read nonetheless. I stayed awake just to make sure I was able to send this out properly at game start, just for everyone here. Some of you haven't played with me so I assumed you might need the extra time to prepared for what is about to occur, its alright, feel free to ask anyone that has played with me before what its like. I personally wouldn't know how it feels from an outside perspective
I would say "good luck" but that would imply that we would need it.
--Sincerely Yours, LordQuas
its the man pizza himself
Longer post now that I'm at a computer
I want to say town actually played very well for a multiball mash tbh. I know that sounds a little silly coming from the deep wolf who just won a f3, but I do mean it. Getting to the final wolf (with absolute humility :P) i think was pretty hard this game
This was one of the tighter endgames i've seen in awhile. In a normal lylo, chingles, tsp, dedenne, jmurder would be strong contenders for top villa.
Also I think you know this but @Chingles i really do not agree with the sentiments of "i can ate all over the thread as a villa and you can't refer to it." I did mean it when i said thats close to trust telling but tbh i've been worse so nothin against u as a person, u swag in my book
Shoutout to my wolf team who played very well. Managed to hold on extra phases to get kp and abilities off. I thought most ppl posted VERY towny (some unfortunate cross kills ensued though). Also our distancing was very good, obviously. Challengers 4eva
Now the maybe somewhat interesting stuff, aka night kill thoughts nobody cares about, spoilered below.
I killed Golurk over the more cut and dry clears because
1. I didn't want to kill gghana to make the dedenne stuff look weirder. On paper, Dedenne!w would want to kill ghana but honestly just getting the night kills to be more random i thought would make it look like the wolf was more desperate. Similar logic was applied to the mac kill later.
2. I wanted to keep the clears who town read me stronger alive. I was actually tempted to kill chingles because i thought she was clearer than she was but she was townreading me pretty strong too. Porygon and gghana were both v reading me, and also i had the ability to neighborhood pocket ghana, which i honestly didnt really take advantage of more than i already had but whatevs
3. I wasn't sure where golurk was on stances, he seemed to be the most wild card of the remaining players
1. Quite simply i was expecting to bring ghana to f3 with me the whole game, and have mac be dead way earlier, but game state changed with peeks and such so things got more complicated
2. Most importantly, I thought mac was most willing to re eval me and start the game state fresh. I was also considering the NK chingles world and bring mac and me to f3 with ghana but i didnt think i could outpost mac, esp when he had towntold so effectively in f3. I could have maybe brought mac to f3 and try to swing chingles on him but that seemed iffy and again, that irl commitments was legit, didnt think i could beat him in a head to head. So i just took the ghana f3 route. I had actually submitted mac kill before mac even announced in hood he was gonna fully re eval the next day but that did make me feel more confident in keeping it that way
also lmao i wasnt lurking this was my first time checking in since my last post
have more thoughts to share when i get to computer
i have my 3 hour class starting now btw so game will likely be over by the time i get back
gl ghana i have faith
anything u can say as a villa you can say as a wolf pmuch, and chingles KNOWS that
its disengenous for her to state otherwise
also those chingles posts are super gross because she knows what she's doing w/ ate and that ate is fine to be used as a wolf
either she's literally advocating for trust tells or is knowingly lying
im sosrt of here but i have a $%#! ton of work to do
you played a really good wolf game chingles, i dunno if this is entirely fake ate or like, actually real sentiments but literally nobody is gonna blame u for getting this far
i want to stay more but i really have to rush to class like, 3 minutes ago
i dunno, i've literally never had a good villa game where i didn't instantly die n1 instantly, every time i've made it to lylo (which is admittedly small) i've been the one that made the game losing vote so at least i get to be the one that (at worst) gets the vote placed on them
i hate to dissect ate but this feels like its coming a lot more from a place of "i played a fantastic wolf game and am not going to make it to the finish line" then "i sorta just had a fun $%#!posty time as a villa"
i've always wanted to say this
suck eggs spec chat
flipping a coin an underrated strat in lylo
also again i literally came into this game with the expectation i was going to 20 post but then i got sucked in
also a bpv does suck unless you're getting consensus townread
which, i was not expecting. i have been rando shot d2 before i showed up the last like, 5 mashes i played before anni (where i ALSO had a vest lol)
i just can't physically be around that much to post. Should be on more in like, 2 hoursish if you haven't decided but really can't delay and already procrastinated all my stuff over the weekend
(also its poker night swag)
i trust in the vengabus for u to get there on me and if you don't then no worries i just threw a f3 horribly recently i dont blame u, had fun either way
i have class in an hour i really can't stay to talk much
but chingles was playing exactly like min like i was casing yesterday
noticeably different from anni
defended blue partners
only had v reads basically
played one of those "never put your neck out timid wolf games" with a tone of villagery posts that snowed us all
if we lose then gg i had some $%#! reads too this game no blame
if its gghana and you just won i will forever lolmrgl
i'm going to be kind of busy today, but ig this is ez for me