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  1. #15

    Thread: its gotten worse

    by Makaze
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    Should be fixed now.

    Should be fixed now.
  2. #12

    Thread: its gotten worse

    by Makaze
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    Check it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#11)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#9)
    on a related note i've been unable to successfully edit the town's loss to no contest results in this game

    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/databa...-game/?id=3129

    @Makaze
    I just tried this and it worked fine?
    @Makaze it says no contest but it counts as a loss still for some reason? ToT
    Check it now.
  3. #10

    Thread: its gotten worse

    by Makaze
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    I just tried this and it worked fine?

    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#9)
    on a related note i've been unable to successfully edit the town's loss to no contest results in this game

    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/databa...-game/?id=3129

    @Makaze
    I just tried this and it worked fine?
  4. #252

    Thread: Battle Royale

    by Makaze
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    Strategy Woo~

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    Completed ANNOUNCEMENT Aether and Lumine Aipom and...

    ANNOUNCEMENT

    @Aether and Lumine
    @Aipom and Sylveon
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    @Duffer
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    @Famous Prophets
    @FatMacDougallMo
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    @MaraBrennan
    @Maryam
    @Team Bucket Dodge
    @Team Slightly Polish

    Aipom & Sylveon's username has been changed to Aipom and Sylveon so that you can vote them, etc. Sorry for the inconvenience.
  6. #230

    Thread: Battle Royale

    by Makaze
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    Strategy I am submitting Heads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#229)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#228)
    Ok, I suggest we form a group that votes for *SIDE*

    That's right.

    Everyone in the know shoupd vote for the coin to land on its side.

    So just tell Dobby "Side"

    Anyone who submits heads or tails will be the minority and auto lose
    @benneh, @Makaze, @MyNameIsNothing, @Bloobird, @Wesmaster160, @Dolby, @Frog, @tenzhi, @ladd, @Dawoodle, @Apogee, @SilverKeith, @nutella, @Boquise

    Submit Side

    Not everyone will, but the majority will submit: "Side"

    Everyone who doesn't is eliminated
    I am submitting Heads.
  7. #14

    Thread: Appeal to Emotion

    by Makaze
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    Regardless of their feelings, it is a violation...

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#11)
    I'm aware of several instances recently in which a player has used really heavy AtE and then subbed out immediately afterwards. This is really problematic because it would be cheating to sub out for strategic reasons, so the action of subbing out is basically mechanical confirmation that the player was being completely truthful about all of the things they said. And I think that when this happens in a very obvious manner it should be treated as a violation of the rule about announcing that you are going to sub out. Even if a player doesn't explicitly say that they are going to sub out, the inference is extremely obvious if they make posts about how much the game is making them miserable and then an hour later there's a new player in their slot.
    This scenario already violates the rules about subbing out for inappropriate reasons regardless of what they have said in the thread about it.
    There was a discussion about this a while ago on Discord in which some people strongly felt the opposite.
    Regardless of their feelings, it is a violation of the current rules. Individual cases may be judged differently, but if you sub out because of circumstances in the game, you are violating the rules as stated.
  8. #12

    Thread: Appeal to Emotion

    by Makaze
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    This scenario already violates the rules about...

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#11)
    I'm aware of several instances recently in which a player has used really heavy AtE and then subbed out immediately afterwards. This is really problematic because it would be cheating to sub out for strategic reasons, so the action of subbing out is basically mechanical confirmation that the player was being completely truthful about all of the things they said. And I think that when this happens in a very obvious manner it should be treated as a violation of the rule about announcing that you are going to sub out. Even if a player doesn't explicitly say that they are going to sub out, the inference is extremely obvious if they make posts about how much the game is making them miserable and then an hour later there's a new player in their slot.
    This scenario already violates the rules about subbing out for inappropriate reasons regardless of what they have said in the thread about it.
  9. Rejected I have decided not to add this for pragmatic...

    I have decided not to add this for pragmatic reasons.
  10. The first time someone uses this to cheat, you...

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#13)
    No, i was talking about not being able to use integrated servers anymore.

    Having to use multiple servers per game is very annoying from a hosting standpoint.

    It is much easier to keep organized in an integrated server where people can post night actions.

    Plus, they act as as place for people to take notes for themselves even if they are not in any private chats. You can do this in private threads from what i understand but discord is much more convenient.
    The first time someone uses this to cheat, you will have to scrap the whole game, depending on when you realize it.
  11. The previous warning has been toned down since...

    The previous warning has been toned down since people have been taking this as a reason to stop using Discord entirely. This is not what we are saying, because this does not affect the integrity of Discord fundamentally. This problem only affects who can see what channels, and has nothing to do any other type of security outside of something that would be important to how many private chats exist and who is in those channels.

    Apologies for speaking carelessly.
  12. URGENT: Please Make separate servers for private Discord chats

    It has been brought to our attention that private Discord channels are not as private as once seemed. We strongly encourage anyone who uses Discord chats for mafia games to create separate servers for every single private chat, instead of grouping everything into one server to make it easier to manage.

    This flaw allows anyone on the same server to see all channels and who has access to those channels regardless of how much access the channel settings say they can have. This flaw should be considered serious and game breaking for any games that have multiple private chats on a single server.

    How?

    There's a free online discord client-side modification called "Better Discord". This provides a number of community-made improvements to the discord client, and allows for plug-ins. Unfortunately, when an FM game uses a single discord server to help run it, one of these plug-ins ("Show Hidden Channels") can create exploitable vulnerabilities.

    As the name implies, it allows a discord user to do the following in any server that they are in:

    • See existence of hidden channels that they would not normally see
    • See channel descriptions of said hidden channels
    • See what discord accounts have access to said hidden channels


    The only thing that they cannot see is the messages in hidden channels.

    What does this mean?

    It means that, by utilizing discord with this plugin, a player can:

    • Determine alignment based on access to hidden channels
    • Determine some roles based on access to hidden channels
    • Potentially identify hidden mechanics or information that have their own channel in a closed-setup game
    • Identify an alt player's actual account if there's a channel dedicated to them with their real name OR if they have a recognizable discord name.


    What can be done about it?

    There are a few practical ways to close this kind of vulnerability. Obviously one would be not to use discord at all, but if you want to use discord then its still safe to do so IF:

    • The discord server is dedicated to the secret chat and only those players associated with it. The same must be done for every secret chat on discord (1 server per secret chat).


    Testing it in the wild

    MartinGG99 tested this with Guillotina. They tested this on the old Anime World 2 server, and with the images below managed to find out information on channels that he configured to hide:







    Hat tip to MartinGG99 for finding the problem.
  13. #201

    Thread: Battle Royale

    by Makaze
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    Strategy https://64.media.tumblr.com/d16e5a06ed2607c54da246...

    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#185)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hally (#183)
    :stare:



    I just popped a bag of microwave popcorn. How many kernels would there in the bowl after I had eaten all the popcorn and only kernels were left, if there were three times as many as I now have?

    if you dont get it just send me a number that isnt 0


    Btw @orangeandblack5 is also in, but didnt sub an answer tolast cat afaict, if you have issues take it up with my lawyer
  14. #1

    Thread: Missing PM Issue

    by Makaze
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    Missing PM Issue

    We are experiencing some technical difficulties which caused all PMs that had been sent by Mafia Host to disappear. This seems to affect all PMs sent before now.

    If you are missing an important PM and need the info, please reach out to your host. Role PMs and action results are available to them via their host tools.
  15. #177

    Thread: Battle Royale

    by Makaze
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    Strategy I call BS on the wording. Is it how many would be...

    I call BS on the wording. Is it how many would be left if you ate it all, and then it was tripled, or is it if you had eaten it all after it was tripled?
  16. Resolved I've made Mafia Host posts show the border like...

    Quote Originally Posted by bearsquared (#24)
    This feels similar to responding to "cliffs?" with "you've been red checked. sorry buddy. time to lolcat". It's a lie that may or may not generate AI reactions. Like they're obviously different, but also the difference is really how dressed up the lie is. I get making fake game host or mafia host posts is kinda sketch, but in the 6 years or whatever this site has been around it's never seriously been a problem though.

    I'd much rather see Mafia Host's posts have a unique style that cannot be replicated by normal players vis a vis host communication posts than a rule
    I've made Mafia Host posts show the border like game host posts as of now.
  17. #2

    Thread: help

    by Makaze
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    All of the occupants have been entered as subbing...

    All of the occupants have been entered as subbing in for each other instead of on the same level.
  18. What does this mean? You can use the zoom...

    What does this mean?

    You can use the zoom feature if you turn of Responsive Layout in Settings. Otherwise the form should be plenty large enough already.
  19. #59

    Thread: Battle Royale

    by Makaze
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    Strategy roro__b Do we know what our partner submits?...

    @roro__b

    Do we know what our partner submits? Do we submit one at a time or all at once?
  20. Rejected No NK. Implied no other win conditions exist....

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#43)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#34)
    Quote Originally Posted by lute (#33)
    help me balance this setup

    15x Town Fruit Vendor
    1x Town Glutton (team wins when 8 fruit are received)
    1x Mafia Glutton (team wins when 8 fruit are received)

    no NK and everybody gets to keep their fruit after the game
    The setup is balanced because both teams will win an equal percent of the time.
    Town Glutton always hard claims Day 1.

    If mafia Glutton CCs then dont not send either of them fruit and yeet both for the win.

    Mafia Glutton cannot CC.

    NK Town Glutton so he cant get all the fruit.

    Plan and Hard claim all fruits sent and received.

    12 or 13 people will be mechanically clear as the only sender of fruit to a specific individual.


    Mafia Glutton is outted as having sent no fruit, or is CCing a fruit vendor.

    Kill both.


    Town wins.
    No NK.

    Implied no other win conditions exist. If both live or die, then neither team can win.

    If both teams still have their normal win conditions, then yes, town always wins.
  21. SK and Arsonist have personal abilities.

    SK and Arsonist have personal abilities.
  22. Right now it only recognizes VT and Goon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hally (#6)
    mak 🐐

    also how does it interact with SK/arsonist that have no modifiers? i assume those aren’t considered vanilla?
    Right now it only recognizes VT and Goon.
  23. The Role PM has been edited to that effect:

    The Role PM has been edited to that effect:

    Role PM for cops test

    You are Town Vanilla Cop. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Vanilla Cop

    As Town Vanilla Cop, you have access to the Vanilla Inspection Night Action. Vanilla Inspection will reveal whether your target is a Vanilla role that has no personal abilities or modifiers (e.g. Vanilla Town and Mafia Goon) or not.

    Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
  24. Rejected The setup is balanced because both teams will win...

    Quote Originally Posted by lute (#33)
    help me balance this setup

    15x Town Fruit Vendor
    1x Town Glutton (team wins when 8 fruit are received)
    1x Mafia Glutton (team wins when 8 fruit are received)

    no NK and everybody gets to keep their fruit after the game
    The setup is balanced because both teams will win an equal percent of the time.
  25. New Role: Vanilla Cop (Not to be confused with Neapolitan)

    Role PM for cops test

    You are Town Vanilla Cop. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Vanilla Cop

    As Town Vanilla Cop, you have access to the Vanilla Inspection Night Action. Vanilla Inspection will reveal whether your target is a Vanilla role that has no personal abilities or modifiers (e.g. Vanilla Town and Mafia Goon) or not.

    Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
    Neapolitan, for contrast:
    Role PM for cops test

    You are Town Neapolitan. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Neapolitan

    As Town Neapolitan, you have access to the Neapolitan Inspection Night Action. Neapolitan Inspection will reveal whether your target is Vanilla Town (with no modifiers) or not.

    Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    Happy hosting!
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    Resolved Done. It turns out the Neapolitan was already...

    Done. It turns out the Neapolitan was already doing this instead of what it was supposed to do. Vanilla Cop is added and Neapolitan now does what it was supposed to do.
  27. Rejected What is contained in the gift PM? "You...

    What is contained in the gift PM?

    "You received a piece of fruit."?
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    I have fixed the mechanics and the role PMs to...

    I have fixed the mechanics and the role PMs to reflect this change. The self-kill ignores protection.
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    Desperado is usually a day vig, and day...

    Desperado is usually a day vig, and day protection is exceedingly rare.
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    All modifiers should work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syn (#6)
    Does the x-shot modifier work for this role? (no is okay, just thought I'd ask)
    All modifiers should work.
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    New Role: Night & Day Desperado

    Role PM for Desperado test

    You are Town Night Desperado. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Night Desperado

    As Town Night Desperado, you have access to the Desperado Night Action. If the player targeted with this action is any alignment other than Town, they will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Otherwise, you will die regardless of protection. Submit your action during the Day using the form below the game thread.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that day.
    Role PM for Desperado test

    You are Town Day Desperado. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Day Desperado

    As Town Day Desperado, you have access to the Desperado Day Action. If the player targeted with this action is any alignment other than Town, they will die within one minute after submission unless protected. Otherwise, you will die regardless of protection. Only one shot can be fired per player per Day. Submit your action during the Day using the form below the game thread.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that day.
    Get busy killin', or get busy dyin'.

    Enjoy.
  32. As others have said, Ctrl+F serves this purpose....

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightsofCydonia (#1)
    As I was playing in the Unova Mash, there was something I noticed time and time again as I was trying to check the Vote History. Namely, that the process was incredibly time consuming because the huge player list made it harder to find a single person's name in the history.

    Would it be possible to code in an additional search function for Vote History? I'm thinking of something similar to the Thread Search function, except it replicates the results of clicking a player's name.

    Additional feedback: There were also times when the new copypaste function for Vote History didn't work.
    As others have said, Ctrl+F serves this purpose.

    Your last comment needs much more detail before I can help.
  33. Resolved Should be fixed now (town shots & infinite...

    Should be fixed now (town shots & infinite posting).
  34. Rejected There's always money in the banana stand.

    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#7)
    gghana walked up to the makaze stand
    and asked, got any grapes
    There's always money in the banana stand.
  35. Resolved Day Desperado has been added. Needs tested ASAP.

    Day Desperado has been added. Needs tested ASAP.
  36. Rejected It's a meme.

    It's a meme.
  37. Rejected This is a serious denial.

    This is a serious denial.
  38. Postgame#17353

    Thread: Constellations Team Mafia

    by Makaze
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    Completed It's a fairly complex process, but you can get...

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#17352)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#17351)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#17350)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#17347)
    Why does this game not show up as a win in my mafia stats? ;_;
    Some of my team members don't have it logged as well!
    @Makaze Is there any way to show the win in the profile of those who subbed in/were in the team?
    The game has to be manually entered, but yes, it is possible.
    @Makaze How does one do that?
    It's a fairly complex process, but you can get started by finding the game file in the database. You will need to add all of the team members on the same level as slot occupants. It should be there if you search for it.
  39. #11

    Thread: Compulsive modifier

    by Makaze
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    Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#10)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#9)
    When should the action be randed?

    - At start of cycle (Always has a target)
    - At end of cycle (Empty unless filled out by actor)

    The first one seems more logical for the purpose (to me).
    I might be missing something but I would say at the end (not sure what the argument is for it being at the start though). It avoids any biases that might happen.

    Like, the nightkill is compulsive and is settled at the end of phase as well unless I'm mistaken.
    Good point.
  40. #9

    Thread: Compulsive modifier

    by Makaze
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    When should the action be randed? - At start...

    When should the action be randed?

    - At start of cycle (Always has a target)
    - At end of cycle (Empty unless filled out by actor)

    The first one seems more logical for the purpose (to me).
  41. Postgame#17351

    Thread: Constellations Team Mafia

    by Makaze
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    Completed The game has to be manually entered, but yes, it...

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#17350)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#17347)
    Why does this game not show up as a win in my mafia stats? ;_;
    Some of my team members don't have it logged as well!
    @Makaze Is there any way to show the win in the profile of those who subbed in/were in the team?
    The game has to be manually entered, but yes, it is possible.
  42. #6

    Thread: Battle Royale

    by Makaze
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    Strategy Sent

  43. Rejected Short answer: No. Forcing them to take...

    Short answer: No.

    Forcing them to take whatever role happens to flip is not a new way to play. It's removing skill. Introducing RNG is even worse.
  44. This is problematic for cases of multiple...

    This is problematic for cases of multiple arsonists existing at the same time.
  45. Resolved I have made this possible by clicking the post...

    I have made this possible by clicking the post date at the top of the post.
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    Fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#2)
    Voting doesn't seem to work like it did in this.

    When I vote, the dropdown that used to show up, just... doesn't.
    Fixed.
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    New Option: Quick Reply Overlay

    You can now show the Quick Reply box in a floating overlay that stays at the bottom of your screen as you scroll. To enable this option, enable Quick Reply Overlay under your settings. You can expand and minimize it by clicking the Quick Reply banner.

    Preview:



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    I have added an additional sub option: Last page...

    I have added an additional sub option: Last page only

    Just like how it sounds.
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    Resolved There is already an option to turn locked votes...

    There is already an option to turn locked votes on manually.
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    I suppose it is not very different from how much...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezradekezra (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezradekezra (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#11)
    That is true of the Town, but Mafia win condition generally implies the elimination of all other factions.
    Neutral Independent roles generally aren't considered factions for this purpose though
    Depends on host decisions then. In the case you suggest, Jester's win condition is very limited and has to happen quickly unless it is a multiball game.
    I don't think that's true unless it's a very small setup or the Town absolutely stomps

    5 days or so is usually enough to get yourself lynched if you play well enough
    I suppose it is not very different from how much time the Town or Mafia has. Point taken.
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