Type: Posts; User: Dawoodle
If TL flips scum, thank you.
If not, I really wish you would have targeted fwog. In my very quick skim of his iso, I didn't see the contrarian that I'm used to seeing from t!Fwog.
I also don't like his claimed targets for his ability, and don't think they make sense.
If Fwog can't explain his picks for targets, I say blow him up.
A hit on wolf kp then drops it to 1v7 leading to 1v5 the next day. That's a good position, but still only gives one miselimination.
So if Sugar isn't wolf kp, we're in a pretty rough spot tomorrow, especially if Chelsea is scum.
Still going through vote counts, and an interesting gem is that Psycho was never voted.
ikka, why did you poison Allundberg?
I know you left early, but you ended the day with your vote on Hyena.
He's the only one who is still alive who was explicitly cursed (as opposed to being doomed), and that was part of the message.
I don't think it's necessarily a red check, especially if TL is being truthful about his visions and ondine flips town. But it's a thought that I just had.
Time to move back here.
If they can trade one wolf for town cred for both kp to survive another day, it makes sense to bus.
Creature was also one of the first ones to unvote and stay off, but it was mostly town moving off with ~15 minutes left in the day.
He only voted 8 times, and only 3 of them were on confirmed wolves (and all of them were more or less outed): Chad (d2), Luco (d3) and Phighter (d3).
Only one vote was on a confirmed town: DT (d2)
The rest of his votes haven't flipped yet: Bun (d1), you (d1), ikka (d2) and Jalandh (d3).
It's possible that none of you are scum since the remaining wolves likely have decent PRs, but it's something that I came across while compiling vote charts.
Apogee, did you say that Guill tends to be a busser?
WWH was a weak PR, and we can be reasonably confident that 2 of the 3 (likely) remaining scum are kp who need the cred to survive to late game.
Just posting this because I found the wagon interesting. First, 10 minutes before EoD, the WWH wagon was incredibly pure 7/10 votes flipped town. 1 scum and 2 unflipped, but probably town (Shad more confident than Apogee).
3 of the n1 kills were from this wagon which makes me think that Shad and Apogee are both probably town (this vote count was also take from when Apo swapped his vote from Vigg to WWH, and he never moved back).
Another random thought (and reason to delay isos). Should we do a mass claim?
It might be a little bit late today, but I think it's getting to be about time where it would be useful.
There hasn't been much of a defense from anyone except ondine (which I don't think we should scum read her for defending Sugar if Sugar does flip scum, she hard defended me when I was scum before for actions that don't make sense for scum to do.)
I just wasn't sure what you meant by the term.
Mostly because his conclusion in the first section was that ondine was >rand w (at least that's how I read it when he ends with "I don't think this looks good").
But then when he is pushed, he quickly backs off to say that she's not cleared, >rand town for lack of interaction, but possibly wolf kp who was left alone.
It's sort of a thing where as scum, he tends to say what is actually happening with his partners, but pass it off as speculation.
I know this sounds like serious shade, but I'm just trying to decide where I stand on him given observations I have seen before.
Do you really think that wolf kp would roll over and die two days in a row when they are this close to winning?
And even then, if their last partner is in the sweet spot of kind of townie, but not too townie, wolves still have a decent chance of pulling off a win.
If you ignore the fact that wolves hadn't killed you, would you consider Sugar a scum candidate? As you know from playing with me, wolves do absolutely stupid things sometimes just to cause chaos.
I know this is piling on something that is probably a foregone conclusion, but I was looking at people who voted wolves, and only Tim and Sugar have voted Kaze and are unflipped.
Looking back at Sugar's votes, the only justification is that Kaze had a wagon at one point. That is incredibly wolfy, and the phrasing matches other behavior that I have seen from a wolf when they want to look like they have thoughts on a partner without pushing them hard.