Good luck to the new mods!!
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Good luck to the new mods!!
Edit: wow, it’s *weird* not having a coloured name, been 3ish years? And pride flags weren’t a thing all the way back when I was an orange, so I’ve also never seen mine without the blue name next to it. It’s the little things I suppose.
This is the most blessed thread I have ever laid eyes on.
$%#!ing kill me
someone just vote already please.
god it better not be cuth after all this
In this moment, I hate this game lol
Also generally speaking, when I'm caught as a wolf it's because people have meta on me. I would not have let cuth live to today if I was mafia.
I'm also in lecture at the moment so that is contributing to me being a bit scattered. Hopefully will wake up more as we get closer to deadline.
At this point I almost hope I get voted so that I don't have to make any decisions about who to vote lol
Well that was... fun. I don't really know what to say anymore. I feel like Boq is the easy route here, but it's always possible that lissa misread cuth all those nights ago. I just dunno if Cuth is capable of faking those mindmelds with lissa, I feel like the answer is no, but if the answer is yes then things get interesting.
acquired computer, time for reading.
anyway I'm failing to stay awake so I'll stop trying to do so.
I really hate that I'm alive here. It means that apparently, my reads are so bad that I'm trusted to make the wrong decision, because I'm SHC and I can't honestly believe that the mafia thinks that making a case for me to die would work. I also hate that I think that gambit of hoping I get it wrong will work, because I have never won a F3 before. I'm sitting here with a sinking feeling knowing that I will make the wrong choice no matter what and it's the worst. Why couldn't I just have been killed last night.
Oh god I forgot that vote locking was a thing. Well, it already might as well be with how f3 is, but gets rid of some shenanigans.
Village-indicative things... is hard tbh, mostly because I am awful at perceiving others' opinions of me, both in-game and oog. I guess my reaction to the claiming insanity? As a wolf I'd either have been entirely frozen and not posting at all, or trying to take advantage of the situation. Instead I was kinda just around and aimless, but clearly so, and ftr Wah agreed with town-reading me for this period.
Also I know no one will believe this given the meta given earlier but I'd never pick 2 complete unknowns to me to be my wolf-team. Being part of a wolf-team that gets along and really enjoys each other's company is really important to me, and I'd never roll the dice if given the option not to on that front.
Anyway have to go sorry.
How many games have each of you played with each of the flipped wolves?
Am eating, will make post shortly. Agree with analysis that the NKs match the path that both me and boq would need to take to win as a wolf, I swear that there’s been continual attempts to frame me with these NKs throughout the game.
Look, if it’s not obvious I’m stretching to find scummy things because neither of you have been scummy, but if I can’t find anything at all I might as well just flip a coin, so I’m acting on anything no matter how little.
In retrospect, not really a fan of boq in post 451 calling me out for being overexplainy when we're played before and I was the exact same then.
Reading further in the ISO I'm getting a whole pile of null feelings which is really bad, not for his alignment but for my confidence in being able to get anything out of this at all.
503 gives me bad vibes that I can't explain.
557 is interesting because by itself I don't think scumreading naked town posts is inherently a bad thing. But, it's also not uncommon for villagers to do it (and clearly Nut was lol..), and so using something so variable as fully half of the reasoning for a maybe scum read feels like more of a wolfy progression than a towny one? Just because something that isn't that AI is easy to force into a reason to scumread someone, but I don't think town would make an unforced read off of it.
648... this is the part where I don't know boq's meta enough to really have an opinion here. In a world where Boq is W/W with Mac, does he make this post, seemingly undermining Mac's towniness in the eyes of others? It would definitely be distancing, but I'm not sure if it's the kind of thing he'd actually do. Alternatively (and still in that world), it could have been setting Nut up to be miselim'd by associations with Mac, by drawing attention to the strength of the read here. 712 seems to support this interpretation? I'd have expected more of a push to get a straight answer (something like "Ok, but if you're still W/W despite the town tells, would you make this declaration") rather than just dropping it with a gif. Of course, this could just be a villager being concerned about another villager having strange reads.
Time for more overanalysis of a single post... 1048 once again is a post with very different purposes depending on boq's alignment. If V, he's showing discomfort with someone being cleared too easily, and if W he's slightly pushing Frog towards a hopeful miselim. The only way in which that first world is correct is if Boq genuinely believes that Frog's post is easy to fake, and I... don't really see it? Like yes I voted Frog but frankly I've been sleepwalking through the past several day phases and in retrospect stuff like this is damn hard to fake. And at the time, without the insanity of D2, I wouldn't say there's much that makes Frog look bad at this point.
1171 on the other hand goes back to looking better. Sure, undermining others' villager cases on you can be paradoxically a way to gain townreads, but in this specific circumstance it feels more like a villager being worried about someone else's process on them (a feeling I know well). Still could be the former.
1178 is highly relatable and probably townie based on that. Not for that specific read, but rather that looks like a town headspace.
1204's Mac positioning in the readslist seems extremely good for Boq. I'd imagine as mafia he would be far more accepting of Nut clearing his partner, rather than putting as many doubts next to that read as possible. Well, I'm at least reading that as town by looking at it from how I play as mafia (essentially I try to avoid bussing at all costs, so I take any opportunity to townread and hold up my teammates), but he could play completely differently and so is hedging here to allow for a pivot later if necessary. Which... is probably smarter in games with cops. So I feel like this post is only slightly good for boq instead of very good.
1575 is the Radishes vote, and if boq does bus like I considered above, this is the worst example of it I've ever seen. There's no conviction, spice, anything at all to convince me that he genuinely believes Radishes is mafia. Like yeah sure that's not great from town either, but town doesn't have to convince people that they care (well, they do to the extent that they need to to stay alive, but they don't care about doing so in the same way). Town can just vote because it seems like the general right option. So things are continuing to look up for him.
Anyway that's d1 done, I am rapidly running out of energy. Might do cuth d1 today, or maybe tomorrow. will have to do the entire game of one/both of them at some point which means diving back into lolmechanics...
Anyway, going to do Boq ISO now.
The above is a complete joke and I don't actually suggest this, sorry.
tbh at this point if the last mafia could just concede real quick that would be lovely
Honestly it might just be as simple as Hally died because she was never going to be voted today.
Anyway I was about to say that as mafia I’d probably kill Boq because I feel like I could have pocketed the remainders but in that world, I don’t think I could convincingly push either?
*I know that, sorry, phone autocorrect hates me.
The above conversation is infuriating becuase in a vacuum you both look at least good in it but I know hah mechanically it has to be W/V. I’m gonna iso you both tonight but I really don’t think this is going to go well.