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  1. Postgame#17148

    Thread: Constellations Team Mafia

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    Completed gghana being villagery is especially why I pushed...

    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#17099)
    i dont blame anyone for MLing emilia

    she deserved it

    i'm still a bit annoyed by it because ghana was extremely obvious town and phraze was also p villagery but

    y'know i think the duke kill is arguably a bigger display of "what u doing town" and even that isnt

    unjustifiable

    im just annoyed

    psot game warrior katze
    gghana being villagery is especially why I pushed so hard for emilia on d6
  2. Postgame#17025

    Thread: Constellations Team Mafia

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    Completed nutella Fwiw you're not wrong, it was a given...

    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#17015)
    Persona played fine but they were extremely catchable by villagers that paid attention

    Alexa slot played great too congrats

    I'm just disappointed in village play on several levels

    If literally every dead villager wolfread the same slot, and that slot also has a wolfy voting record, maybe consider that
    @nutella

    Fwiw you're not wrong, it was a given considering that our slots direction was specifically "bury as many villagers as you can and die"

    But one thing that's a staple of wolfing imo is that wolfing is an exercise in finding and exploiting mistakes made by villagers

    Villagers will always make mistakes, no matter how small, it's really inevitable because people aren't robots.

    Point is, blaming people for making mistakes is just one side of the coin, on the other there were people specifically playing to exploit said mistakes.
  3. Postgame#17004

    Thread: Constellations Team Mafia

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    Completed disq goat

    Quote Originally Posted by Disquieted (#16997)


    come on guys, wtf
    disq goat
  4. Postgame#16917

    Thread: Constellations Team Mafia

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    Completed that wasn't his fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#16907)
    @Sunbae

    I'm really $%#!ing disappointed in you. That guilt trip was terrible
    that wasn't his fault.
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    Completed ggs, was a fun game all in all got plenty of...

    ggs, was a fun game all in all

    got plenty of thoughts esp w/r/t my specific approach to these types of games and why it both works and doesn't

    but those'll have to wait probably because $%#! I should sleep lol
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    Completed can't believe y'all made us wait the entire thing...

    can't believe y'all made us wait the entire thing out though gdi

    I was supposed to be asleep like 3 hours ago

    I'm waking up in like 4-5 hours from now for a massive drive
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    Completed nutella (69), Ephemeral (69) now THIS is how...

    nutella (69), Ephemeral (69)

    now THIS is how you kill wolves

    nice
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    Completed I should probably clarify that the gira thing...

    I should probably clarify that the gira thing isn't a smoking gun necessarily though

    it has the capacity to be(and I'd feel great about noticing it if it's accurate!)

    but it needs a far larger sample size than what I had to compare
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    Completed (with what sunbae said)

    (with what sunbae said)
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    Completed yeah I vibe with that

    yeah I vibe with that
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    Completed because at a glance it feels like that same logic...

    because at a glance it feels like that same logic could apply to gira too
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    Completed how does gira fit in this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#4709)
    its kinda the same way where like, lans snipe makes no sense if its makaze also because what happens if it works? makaze looks awful too?

    lans snipe makes sense if its moon tho as they both bus moon
    how does gira fit in this?
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    Completed :wowee:

    Quote Originally Posted by moonstermash (#4683)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#4672)
    moon F R O Z E N

    ?πŸ™ˆ
    I'm invoking my right to stay silent.
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    Completed uncanny

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    Completed but gira is too eee

    but gira is too

    eee
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    Completed moon F R O Z E N ?πŸ™ˆ

    moon F R O Z E N

    ?πŸ™ˆ
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    Completed nod nod

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#4664)
    im basically at "so far the answer to this game was the easy one so im going to continue assuming its the easy one until im proven wrong"
    nod nod
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    Completed if the game doesn't end y'all will probably have...

    if the game doesn't end y'all will probably have to deal with drunk me $%#!posting eventually

    I'm not sure whether that's good or bad
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    Completed weh

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    Completed moonstermash

    ##Vote moonstermash
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    Completed thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#4643)
    have a great time ephem!
    thank you!
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    Completed then again it's not like I'm going solo/with...

    then again it's not like I'm going solo/with friends

    as a family thing it's a bit eh but I'll find a way
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    Completed I'm expecting it to be! its been so long since...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4640)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#4631)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4625)
    i dont know what the $%#! i want to do

    and i dont know why im so worried about it
    I'm not worried from a win/lose pov, I think the game's just a lock almost always

    but I would very much rather go to post game tonight rather than later, having to play while on vacation would be a bit awkward because lolmobile

    and I'll be busy getting drunk
    that sounds like fun
    I'm expecting it to be!

    its been so long since I just went away on a trip and I want to hit every bar I can find😭
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    Completed https://media1.tenor.com/images/934c669eaad73cf00b...

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    Completed I'm not worried from a win/lose pov, I think the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4625)
    i dont know what the $%#! i want to do

    and i dont know why im so worried about it
    I'm not worried from a win/lose pov, I think the game's just a lock almost always

    but I would very much rather go to post game tonight rather than later, having to play while on vacation would be a bit awkward because lolmobile

    and I'll be busy getting drunk
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    Completed Gira

    ##Unvote Gira
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    Completed i'm not really convinced gira is v but if I...

    i'm not really convinced gira is v

    but if I balance it on the scale of probability and filter out certain biases I think moon comes out having more wolf equity objectively

    weh
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    Completed kinda

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    Completed i want to swap to moon😳

    i want to swap to moon😳
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    Completed :fry:

    Quote Originally Posted by moonstermash (#4601)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#4599)
    Season 8, Game Spec: A Spec Chat Warrior Semi-Invitational Day 4 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    2 moonstermash Makaze (36), Visorslash (49)
    2 Makaze moonstermash (25), nutella (56)
    2 Gira Ephemeral (46), Sunbae (90)
    1 Sleep SmartBomb (83)
    2 Not voting Gira (44), Lissa (49)

    View Vote History

    End day at majority is enabled. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to reach majority.

    Day 4 ends at 8:00 PM EDT on Monday, August 2nd, 2021. There are 1627948860000 remaining.
    Let it rand. I'm sure modbot will town side again.
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    Completed funny, I use werewolf to ruin mine usually...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#4554)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4544)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#4539)
    its really warped my sleep schedule cause ill like wake up for a brief moment at 7am like normal, but instead of just rolling over and going back to sleep i grab my phone and see what i missed and then end up staying up and being tired all day. for like a week+ straight now.

    with the 48/24 i get every third day to just like, know theres nothing to check and sleep normally lol
    what's a sleep schedule

    tbf i was sleeping like this for anni i just kinda kept it for this game because it felt kinda nicer than going to bed at sod and waking up like 8-9 hours into day to first post in it

    then the regrets started setting in around d3

    funnily enough my cycle goes like this:

    Play werewolf and get a sleep schedule like this where I can't turn off my brain so the first moment I fidget in the morning I get up. Actually experience breakfast. Be tired all day. Repeat til game is over -> Stop playing werewolf and get a more consistent sleep schedule that has me go to sleep earlier since Ive been waking up earlier, except now I actually sleep through the night -> Feel great for a few weeks -> Slowly but surely start staying up later and later. Wake up later and later. Eventually reach the point where Im up til like 4am and waking up past noon. -> Join a werewolf game and revert to the start.

    omg i use werewolf to reset my sleep schedule
    funny, I use werewolf to ruin mine

    usually
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    Completed ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#4529)
    i think moon's doin what she's supposed to regardless of alignment here
    ye
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    Completed don't feel like that'd be particularly AI for...

    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#4520)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4511)
    what do you think she should be doing here if she's a villager? what does that look like iyo?
    like, engaging with people, bouncing off the makaze case maybe. i know she said she doesn't like to defend herself but the extent to which she is staying in her own corner (narrator: hey, the same phrase was used for hally) and just quietly sorting out the player list completely disconnected from the actual thread discussion feels like she knows she is outside that dynamic and doesn't want to try
    don't feel like that'd be particularly AI for moon specifically though

    I have a bit of an inkling that this is how she'd look in contrast to the rest of the dynamic regardless of alignment, probably
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    Completed this is probably correct ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4516)
    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#4514)
    Quote Originally Posted by moonstermash (#4504)
    nutella - Town Town-lean - 55% confidence

    Good tone, decent interactions, towny paranoia. This is a lazy read mostly from D1/early D2, though. Could possibly drop her below Sunbae based on effort.

    Or maybe I'm just pocketed by the bi pride flag. It's the best one, don't @ me. Trans flag and sunset lesbian flag also pretty good, too.
    what does that percentage even mean here?
    im getting flashbacks to dekay

    also yes it's goat ty
    i. highly doubt that the percentage is anything but stylistic?
    this is probably correct ye
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    Completed maybe it's mak lol

    maybe it's mak lol
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    Completed a fun little thing I noticed is that in his wolf...

    a fun little thing I noticed is that in his wolf games gira didn't do much of the "I would've done this instead as a wolf" type of posts that he made quite a bit in this game (and iirc in the 18er SK too?)

    I wouldn't be shocked if it means nothing but it might be worth something if it's consistent across a larger sample of games
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    Completed man I see what nl was saying w/r/t gira's...

    man

    I see what nl was saying w/r/t gira's posts here being quite a bit better than in his wolf games

    but like

    gira wouldn't even have to post better than he did in those games, my impression is they were both pretty lol/low tier games so

    he also didn't seem to have much trouble replicating nuance there when he needed/wanted to
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    Completed i'll get to reading the games nl linked now🀧

    i'll get to reading the games nl linked now🀧
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    Completed sup finally got myself a haircut after what...

    sup

    finally got myself a haircut after what feels like forever

    I'm ready for my trip yeehaw
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    Completed :y: ty

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    Completed in the meantime can y'all take a look at hally...

    in the meantime can y'all take a look at hally interactions from moon's perspective? I've gone over them a few times and pretty much talked myself into thinking the way moon was addressing hally felt mildly unaligned

    I'm aware I could just be leveling myself out of the easy answer but if we're being thorough I think we should at least consider it

    if i'm being dumb I trust y'all can snap me out of it🀧
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    Completed Visorslash yo can you link me some of the games...

    @Visorslash yo can you link me some of the games you've been looking at for gira? want to go over them tomorrow after I wake up
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    Completed maybe? I don't have a definitive answer for you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#4276)
    does anyone else agree with me about that moon thing or is hally actually able to do something like that as wolf
    maybe? I don't have a definitive answer for you w/r/t whether that's out of hally's wolf range or not

    but it is nonetheless a point
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    Completed yeah i still don't get it why say soah...

    yeah i still don't get it

    why say soah deserves a day of grace and then decide to keep supporting his wagon
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    Completed ya that's fair, just wanted to hear what your...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#4272)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#4268)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#3254)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#3253)
    which villa game did you look at?

    I remember you only mentioning reflections from mountaintop before but that was a wolf game
    the mountainado game
    hey gira uh

    mind if I ask why the first and last time you mentioned this mountainado game was right there at the end? when did you go through it to begin with?

    kinda feel like if this was a relevant point for your read on soah you'd have brought it up at some point before instead of just tacking it on there for more support on pushing soah over

    know what I mean?
    i looked it up at that point in time shortly before i posted that because i wanted to try to get a comparison. i guess i was just confbiasing myself which sucks because i know limited sample meta is bad but i did it anyway

    i dont really want to spend a lot of time defending myself here though because i know thats a waste of my and everyone elses time
    ya that's fair, just wanted to hear what your exact headspace was around all of that since its been on my mind
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    Completed :zoidberg:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#4270)
    Retrospective Day 2 Votecount as of Post #3268

    Post #3268 was originally posted at 7:48 PM EDT on Thursday, July 29th, 2021.

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    7 soah Ephemeral, Hally, Makaze, Dyslexicon, Mistyx, Sunbae, nutella
    5 Hally Lissa, SmartBomb, Visorslash, Gira, soah
    1 Not voting moonstermash

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    Requested by Ephemeral.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#4269)
    like i think if you're dealing with the situation where someone is deep here and it's not moon i would expect them to be on the hally wagon at eod2
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    Completed hey gira uh mind if I ask why the first and...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#3254)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#3253)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#3251)
    im fine with soah going over in spite of my flip flop

    i think its hard to outeigh how suspect his d1 was and the villa game i briefly looked at was more nuanced in thought compared to this
    which villa game did you look at?

    I remember you only mentioning reflections from mountaintop before but that was a wolf game
    the mountainado game
    hey gira uh

    mind if I ask why the first and last time you mentioned this mountainado game was right there at the end? when did you go through it to begin with?

    kinda feel like if this was a relevant point for your read on soah you'd have brought it up at some point before instead of just tacking it on there for more support on pushing soah over

    know what I mean?
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    Completed perhaps I'm confbiasing but it looked like they...

    perhaps I'm confbiasing but it looked like they wanted to milk cred from being on hally/calling them out while hoping the soah wagon goes over instead

    weh
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    Completed errr I should clarify that these events weren't...

    errr I should clarify that these events weren't jumbled together

    there was a timeline/progression to it

    but when I read through it feels like it was for show rather than an actual belief in there?
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    Completed gira says, while voting hally, while commenting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gira (#3214)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#3210)
    actually

    soah/moon

    hally/moon

    on a snap take, which do y'all think is more likely?
    former
    gira says, while voting hally, while commenting that hally is wolfy in-between

    while explaining how they were getting cold feet on soah

    however during all of this they still kept encouraging the soah wagon from the side

    wtf?!
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