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    Completed yay we won, I think? I guess? I think I earned...

    yay we won, I think? I guess? I think I earned it?

    Whatever cards lets go.
  2. Postgame#5143

    Thread: Multiball 19er

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    Completed I'll proceed to read your entire player guide as...

    I'll proceed to read your entire player guide as repentance, King Bowser!
  3. Postgame#5142

    Thread: Multiball 19er

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    Completed Well, that part wasn't genuine, of course *wink*...

    Quote Originally Posted by King Bowser (#5141)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#5140)
    Really really regret I got subbed out of the game in hindsight - and apologies to my scum mates. I got the post requirement confused with another game I was slotting in. Congrats to my team

    @Outlier
    @Guillotina
    @King Bowser
    You were forcibly subbed out due to missing post requirement? That makes sense then. Yeah it was 10.

    You know, your reads were basically all dead on. You town read Venti twice (in the same sentence)

    You had several other correct town reads, you voted Wesmaster, with actual reasons.

    Your only mistake is that you thought U SUX had partner equity with Wes.

    Notbad.gif

    If thats what you do with 5 posts, I would love to see your best game as town with presumably way more posts than 5.

    Cold reading like a bawss.
    Well, that part wasn't genuine, of course *wink*

    Thank you for the compliments for my lousy performance. My reads as town can vary, I think my sixth sense for scum really kicks in when I play Multiball. Easier to identify scum mentality when you're forced into it yourself.
  4. Postgame#5140

    Thread: Multiball 19er

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    Completed Really really regret I got subbed out of the game...

    Really really regret I got subbed out of the game in hindsight - and apologies to my scum mates. I got the post requirement confused with another game I was slotting in. Congrats to my team

    @Outlier
    @Guillotina
    @King Bowser
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    Completed "I'm staring at the man in the mirror~"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#3875)
    Quote Originally Posted by CRichard564 (#3874)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#3869)
    Quote Originally Posted by CRichard564 (#3867)
    Oh yeah where is the dead vote? I guess it really is silent in the graveyard.
    Yo CRichard, I don't trust you at all.... but wanna swap over to voting on GG?
    If I can hear a good case on why GG is scum, sure.
    They've done nothing but post fluff and pointless questions in thread that they never follow up with.
    "I'm staring at the man in the mirror~"
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    Completed Lag *big think*

    Lag *big think*
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    Completed I don't actually know, hence *may*

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3868)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3850)
    Dedenne it wouldn't be very nice to kill me. Considering I may have actually saved your $%#! last night.
    saved me from what?

    how do you know I was targeted.

    If you knew that then why would you not consider Venti, my to scum read.
    I don't actually know, hence *may*
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    Completed I too share in your sadness. Because of you did...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#3855)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3853)
    Don't vote Garden Gnome by the way
    A CFD on you would have been so much better. Sad no one bit on that one.
    I too share in your sadness. Because of you did manage to do this your $%#! would be turned right into grass.

    Stop wolfsiding/openwolfing
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    Completed Don't vote Garden Gnome by the way

    Don't vote Garden Gnome by the way
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    Completed Dedenne it wouldn't be very nice to kill me....

    Dedenne it wouldn't be very nice to kill me. Considering I may have actually saved your $%#! last night.
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    Completed I'm probably not going to be here at the last...

    I'm probably not going to be here at the last hour so @Garden Gnome @stormslyde I expect one of you to cover for me in case of any cfd $%#!y
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    Completed Insaner brought the heat but nobody wants to cook

    Insaner brought the heat but nobody wants to cook
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    Completed Stale eod

    Stale eod
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    Completed I forgot something

    I forgot something
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    Completed Strawman

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3709)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3705)
    Also you're tripping if you think I'm listening to storm if he demands I do something, my obstinance has pissed him off to the point of making comments that probably break some of the rules here

    Lmao
    maybe I just want you to deal with his pestering for making a read like "changing reads is wolfy"
    Strawman
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    Completed Also you're tripping if you think I'm listening...

    Also you're tripping if you think I'm listening to storm if he demands I do something, my obstinance has pissed him off to the point of making comments that probably break some of the rules here

    Lmao
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    Completed Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3697)
    Quote Originally Posted by stormslyde (#3693)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3692)
    Quote Originally Posted by stormslyde (#3689)
    Yo, what did I miss?
    Dedenne outted LOL
    Oh yeah? Catch me up in hood
    he's part of your hood? Tell him to get in line for me he's posting cringe like "tess is wolfy for changing opinions"
    Yes.
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    Completed Im on mobile RN just read insaners post and get...

    Quote Originally Posted by stormslyde (#3689)
    Yo, what did I miss?
    Im on mobile RN just read insaners post and get on that fresh wagon
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    Completed LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#3694)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3692)
    Quote Originally Posted by stormslyde (#3689)
    Yo, what did I miss?
    Dedenne outted LOL
    Holy $%#! that LOL looks fake as $%#!.
    LOL
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    Completed Dedenne outted LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by stormslyde (#3689)
    Yo, what did I miss?
    Dedenne outted LOL
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    Completed Props for remaining optimistic

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3681)
    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3680)
    wolves probably win this game unless mech $%#!s them
    Agree 100%
    Props for remaining optimistic
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    Completed You know his reaction here can be both emotional...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#3670)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3668)
    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#3664)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3659)
    We have just *me* on dedenne?

    Wagon time, let's go
    I'd still much rather kill ignoramus today
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    dedenne cw is hype though

    I just think their emotional reaction to insaner gives me way too much doubt to feel good about it. People who get frustrated like that tend to be town
    You know his reaction here can be both emotional and legitimate as scum right? I'd be mad as $%#! if I got spite outted by a 3p.
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    Completed zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#3664)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3659)
    We have just *me* on dedenne?

    Wagon time, let's go
    I'd still much rather kill ignoramus today
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Completed We have just *me* on dedenne? Wagon time,...

    We have just *me* on dedenne?

    Wagon time, let's go
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    Completed We're in a mash, just go with the sauce

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#3648)
    Nice, nice, nice love the tea spilling here, now how I am even supposed to choose between these good options.
    We're in a mash, just go with the sauce
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    Completed Who's the 3rd person in your neighorhood who knew...

    Quote Originally Posted by Insaner (#3635)


    PART 2

    Cape90

    This is about what he claimed to me in the neighbourhood and why I suspect he may be lying.

    During N1 and before I came out as a 3p to him, Cape asked me whether I was a part of One Piece and if I was up for a deal. His exact claim was that he is a member of Bleach, but he has an ability that allows him to convert to One Piece at will. The way it works is he can prevent the day's elimination from happening. Upon doing so, he will convert to One Piece.

    I outed as 3p to him right after he said that.

    Then the TH claim happened and I said to him that TH is just a wolf using the knowledge I am 3p (I quoted the post where I all but claimed this in my Dedenne case) to fabricate that pick and that stormslyde was likely her partner. Cape replied to me that he agrees and that he himself had started to suspect stormslyde of being a wolf.

    However, his posts today don't show this to be his worldview at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#2772)
    mmmm okay storm can be a townlean
    He is townreading storm and is voting a counterwagon to TH.

    I also shared my suspicion of Dedenne with him and he replied to me with "yes he could be" (paraphrased).

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#3273)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3264)
    I think Scyther is town, but I totally dislike him accusing me and then disappearing, and I get timezones and yeah, but idk, he is no longer my favorite town.
    Can I be your favorite town?
    But again his posts today don't indicate him being suspicious of Dedenne at all.




    I confronted him about this in our neighbourhood and asked if maybe he was considering flipping to mafia and has been cagey about his actual reads. He answered that this wasn't the case and he intends to play as a villager. This doesn't really make sense to me because of the dissonance between him agreeing with my suspicions in our hood and townreading those same people in the game thread.

    I also just feel like he has been much more sideline-y today and his posts have gotten noticeably shorter.

    Based on this, I think he may have lied about the method of converting to One Piece and has actually converted during the night. Or perhaps he was a wolf from the start. Or maybe he is still a villager who is just considering flipping to One Piece.

    I don't really know what the answer here is but something doesn't add up to me. You figure it out
    Who's the 3rd person in your neighorhood who knew Cape was capable of scum siding? Just curious.
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    Completed Well guess you lost your chance of me rescinding...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3645)
    Ultra, Insaner, and someone will be my targets tonight

    Ultra and Insaner I can't make you stop talking about me, but please never talk to me again during this game, I won't answer or read anything you say.

    Normally I try my hardest to enjoy the game and not being sour, but starting a vanity wagon is bad for town.

    If they manage to create a wagon on me, 3p was never towny and Ultra should be killed tomorrow.

    Ultra is mad I have a hood with Esooa and they think they are always right, even though it was they that called there EoD 1 so bad they should be voted. Seriously this game is becoming a circus.
    Well guess you lost your chance of me rescinding my vote lmao
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    Completed Your timing, for the second time this game, has...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#3636)
    Why not

    Both wagons are decent
    Your timing, for the second time this game, has been comical.
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    Completed I am $%#! posting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#3633)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3628)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#3625)
    I don't have time to catch up on this thread before EoD. Anyone want to interact?
    Is your spew that bad Lag?
    Lol

    The top two trains were both people I pushed for hard on day 1

    If you're legitimately worried about me being a wolf and trying to not spew, ask me questions about players you're suspicious of and I'll happily answer
    I am $%#! posting
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    Completed She's tossing off luggage

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#3627)
    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3624)
    ##Vote Luxy
    Sell me?
    Between Igno/Grant/Dedenne/Dolby all being attractive opinion I'd be hardpressed to follow
    She's tossing off luggage
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    Completed Is your spew that bad Lag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#3625)
    I don't have time to catch up on this thread before EoD. Anyone want to interact?
    Is your spew that bad Lag?
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    Completed Willing to place a vote on Dedenne since he...

    Willing to place a vote on Dedenne since he didn't address the 100% thing at all and peaced the $%#! out
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    Completed I'm not taking issue with her for not writing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#3619)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3588)
    And before someone chimes in and says something along the lines of "progression reads BAD", please read Esooa's iso and give your best shot to ascribe an internal thought process there. It's not merely about a lack of stated consistency, it's a lack of any effort that does not result in who she can shade or discredit. Please don't write off or reward this.
    If you seriously believe this then you should've been scumreading me in every single game I'm in.
    I said Esooa is town. Esooa believes I'm towny. We both believe alot of the same things. We both aren't partial to excessive analysis. Now move on.
    I'm not taking issue with her for not writing walls. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say that.
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    Completed anyway insaner ill try to evaluate your case...

    anyway insaner ill try to evaluate your case seriously before EoD because that bit about Dedenne's tmi is interesting
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    Completed This is not really that relevant to what we're...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3609)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3606)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3603)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3601)
    If anything that just makes it worse because Esooa is making an insincere proposal itt that it would be in our best interest to lynch 3p lol
    I don't get Esooa play tbh, but the outcome of me picking to kill 3p is semi pro mafia and that is why I hate it.
    Dude how

    The 3ps are openly townsiding, sure Esooa might get more mileage out of you killing a town role but if you telegraphed to her that you are probably going to shoot a 3P AND she entertained the idea of wasting perfectly good rope on one? That's absolutely not town sided. We only need to get rid of one 3p to cast aside any notion of their faction being a threat.
    3p are not townsiding in the slightest, if they would, they won't tie wgons when a dead chat vote that won't be pro town will be in play.

    You are pocketed to their nonsense.

    I shared my concerns about me picking the 3p as my targets and literally one gave me better targets. So don't come here to say they are pro town.

    Insaner ruined their chances at victory because they got greedy
    This is not really that relevant to what we're discussing here - which is how tf Esooa is towny for trying to lynch more 3ps than is strictly necessary, which is utter nonsense for you to believe regardless of how they've been playing, unless they were 100% beneficial to the mafia. Which regardless of your interpretation of their pay, is not even close to true.
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    Completed Wait you tried shooting 3 people and they all...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3605)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3604)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3602)
    If you really wanted to work with town, you don't sus the uncc vig.

    that is mafia 101 and you should know that. gosh I pissed at that trash read.
    Are you suggesting that a big kill is unique or something in a match

    Who did you try to kill last night btw?
    Venti and TH the ones I suss the most in Scyther wagon and Schweppes a player some were sussing
    Wait you tried shooting 3 people and they all failed?
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    Completed Dude how The 3ps are openly townsiding, sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3603)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3601)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3599)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3595)
    Really not sure what point you're trying to make in her defense here, but it seems like you just had a lot of paperwork dropped on your desk, so I'll leave it at that for now and wish you good luck.
    Im a vig, why would wolf Esooa tried to killed the 3p during the day if im doing it during the night? Makes no sense to me, the fact that if Esooa is wolf they know my intentions, why not let it play?
    If anything that just makes it worse because Esooa is making an insincere proposal itt that it would be in our best interest to lynch 3p lol
    I don't get Esooa play tbh, but the outcome of me picking to kill 3p is semi pro mafia and that is why I hate it.
    Dude how

    The 3ps are openly townsiding, sure Esooa might get more mileage out of you killing a town role but if you telegraphed to her that you are probably going to shoot a 3P AND she entertained the idea of wasting perfectly good rope on one? That's absolutely not town sided. We only need to get rid of one 3p to cast aside any notion of their faction being a threat.
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    Completed Are you suggesting that a big kill is unique or...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3602)
    If you really wanted to work with town, you don't sus the uncc vig.

    that is mafia 101 and you should know that. gosh I pissed at that trash read.
    Are you suggesting that a big kill is unique or something in a match

    Who did you try to kill last night btw?
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    Completed If anything that just makes it worse because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3599)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3595)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3594)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3589)
    Can you uh, reword this. Was she trying to make you shoot one of the 3ps or not
    No I suggested it, Esooa didn't really commented on that.
    Really not sure what point you're trying to make in her defense here, but it seems like you just had a lot of paperwork dropped on your desk, so I'll leave it at that for now and wish you good luck.
    Im a vig, why would wolf Esooa tried to killed the 3p during the day if im doing it during the night? Makes no sense to me, the fact that if Esooa is wolf they know my intentions, why not let it play?
    If anything that just makes it worse because Esooa is making an insincere proposal itt that it would be in our best interest to lynch 3p lol
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    Completed Really not sure what point you're trying to make...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3594)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3589)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3587)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3585)
    You are correct in that recollection. This is the third time you've attempted to discredit a so called town read of yours.

    Let me give it to you straight here Esooa - yes, I've been slacking. This DP has mostly lost interest to me for various reasons.

    But your posts have reeked so badly that I have awoken from my slumber and feel obligated to comment. You are not leading $%#!. You go from saying 3p talk is bad to saying we should lynch one. You flip flopped on your igno read. The most charitable way I can characterize your progression is schizophrenic.
    I disagree, I already said in the hood my intention was to vig one of the 3p and also here, why would Esooa, start forcing a 3p kill as a wolf, forcing me to pick 3 players and risking me killing one of the wolves, makes no sense.
    Can you uh, reword this. Was she trying to make you shoot one of the 3ps or not
    No I suggested it, Esooa didn't really commented on that.
    Really not sure what point you're trying to make in her defense here, but it seems like you just had a lot of paperwork dropped on your desk, so I'll leave it at that for now and wish you good luck.
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    Completed Hot diggity damn, my interest has been restored.

    Quote Originally Posted by Insaner (#3590)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3548)
    Also I can't pick Venti, Schweppes or TH again tonight, so I will probably vig shot the 3p, I don't have 3 other POE players and I might risk killing town.

    I not super happy about killing the 3p, but is better than a skip
    What a shame. I was really hoping that we could stay out of each other's way. I'm sorry we couldn't reach an understanding this game.

    But since it's looking like you decided to kill us and force me to lose, I might as well out the thoughts I have been keeping to myself up until now. A threat was made - now I will deliver on it.




    First, I would like you to take a look at this line from the rules posted in the discord chat.

    Players ability have a 70% trigger chance unless invoked in the thread publicly.
    And from the OP itself

    Roles will have a default trigger rate of 70%, unless you invoke the name of your abilities in the thread publicly, but this will mean outing your character as the host will post a video about your character as confirmation of you invoking your power publicly. After that, your role actions will have a 100% trigger rate.
    However, in non-town role pms this line is actually phrased a little differently. Without quoting it directly, it states that only Bleach characters have a 70% trigger rate, whereas non-town's actions will always work at 100% rate without needing to invoke.

    With that in mind,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1344)
    @Insaner if you were confident of using your ability at the start of the game with 30% chance of failing why not triggering it before so you had 100%

    This thought just cross my mind and I think you don't have the 70%, so that means a) you risk it, b) you are secret faction.
    I believe that Dedenne has demonstrated knowledge of this particular rule in this post. There is no other way he could have reached the conclusion that me having a 100% trigger rate on my action simply must mean that I am not a villager, I could have just had a weird role for all he knew. But the way he just comes straight to the conclusion is very indicative of TMI. Moreover, he specifically assumes that this must make me a secret faction and not just non-town. Sure I have a role that other people were speculating wasn't a wolf one, but the confidence he has in this conclusion is still sketchy.

    Moreover,

    Quote Originally Posted by Insaner (#1474)
    Quote Originally Posted by CRichard564 (#1472)
    Quote Originally Posted by Insaner (#1471)
    I don't need to invoke my character to use my power, as I wouldn't be able to do it pregame.
    Tbfh, 70% chance on the 1st try are still good odds of success.
    I'd say it worked out fine with the neighbourhoods eh?

    No, what I'm saying is that my ability was always going to work.
    After I confirmed his suspicion that I had 100% trigger rate, he didn't press me on it further at all, even though I was 100% admitting that I wasn't a villager in that post. That is because he was still hedging his bets on me at that point.

    Some other things that made me think Dedenne was mafia even outside of that post which I believe was a genuine wolfslip:

    There were a lot of people townreading Dedenne for his posts surrounding his character claim. But as I knew that the non-town all have fake claims it didn't really look to me that way? I thought his posts had a good chance of being fake derps.

    Like p#38 I have a hard time buying is a genuine thought that comes from a villager. p#34 p#231 p#232 p#235 p#255 p#262 p#268 p#270 p#271 p#275 p#329 All of those are super LAMIST posts with no other goal than to get people to townread Dedenne.




    Another thing is that Dedenne's EoD was WOLFY AS $%#!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1831)
    You are not killing Scyther and I hate this vote

    ##Vote ThePretender
    Votes Pretender to make it 4-4 over Scyther. Dedenne has never mentioned Pretender up until that point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1832)
    @Dolby vote Venti
    RIGHT IN HIS NEXT POST HE PINGED A PRETENDER VOTER AND TOLD THEM TO VOTE THEIR COUNTERWAGON

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1840)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#1835)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1832)
    @Dolby vote Venti
    Why?
    Because it's Scyther or Venti, I will not allowes a mob lead by Jack and Richard to kill someone I think is town, Jack said they aren't even reading and Richard is tilted in killing me.

    They say Mac freezing Venti is anti town, but not reading and tunneling players is worse.

    Venti is a wolf, self voted, didn't cared to defend themselves, attacked someone that triggered their ability, and was able to speak through their neighbors to say kill Scyther after that, boom vanished.

    Nothing about Venti's play is town, NOTHING.
    Makes a post trying to convince Dolby to vote Venti.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1842)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1841)
    Vote by Proxy

    Quote Originally Posted by CRichard564
    ##Vote ThePretender
    It is now 6:19:43 PM EDT on Wednesday, September 22nd, 2021. There are 1632351660000 remaining.
    Why?
    Questions the vote on Pretender, WHICH IS THE PERSON HE HIMSELF IS VOTING

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1851)
    @Scyther let's get venti, Richard as much as I want is a bad yeet today
    Pings another person to vote Venti.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1855)
    I prefer Venti, but i'm okay with both of the top wagons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1908)
    So Venti si not using the neighborhood to keep pushing mac or following the game, interesting.
    More pushing of Venti.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1847)
    Vote by Proxy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne
    ##Vote Venti
    It is now 6:22:06 PM EDT on Wednesday, September 22nd, 2021. There are 1632351660000 remaining.
    Jump to Venti at one point to make it 4-3 Venti-Pretender.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#1958)
    ##Vote ThePretender

    Phraze vote on Wes is a naked vote and she has no reason to vote them.
    Then comes back again when pretender overtook at 5-4.

    Everything about this progression just looks like Dedenne was trying to save Pretender, while also simultaneously trying to make sure that he gets the bussing vote if Pretender does end up being the elimination. This is exactly what a bus looks like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#2007)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#1998)
    Quote Originally Posted by Travis (#1996)
    ##Vote ThePretender
    is better than a Scyther wagon
    Vig this
    Yes
    And then there was also this post which was already called out by Scyther. Dedenne was agreeing with the shot on someone who was voting the same player he was, for the exact same reason Dedenne was voting Pretender (to save Scyther)

    This. Does. Not. Make. Sense.

    Hot diggity damn, my interest has been restored.
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    Completed Can you uh, reword this. Was she trying to make...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dedenne (#3587)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3585)
    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3583)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3580)
    I respect the hustle, but you are quite clearly laying it on *way* too thick.
    I don't recall you having done a single useful thing this day phase and you've vote parked th then when someone disputes the being a wolf you whine that my correct reads aren't "fancy" enough for you

    lmao
    You are correct in that recollection. This is the third time you've attempted to discredit a so called town read of yours.

    Let me give it to you straight here Esooa - yes, I've been slacking. This DP has mostly lost interest to me for various reasons.

    But your posts have reeked so badly that I have awoken from my slumber and feel obligated to comment. You are not leading $%#!. You go from saying 3p talk is bad to saying we should lynch one. You flip flopped on your igno read. The most charitable way I can characterize your progression is schizophrenic.
    I disagree, I already said in the hood my intention was to vig one of the 3p and also here, why would Esooa, start forcing a 3p kill as a wolf, forcing me to pick 3 players and risking me killing one of the wolves, makes no sense.
    Can you uh, reword this. Was she trying to make you shoot one of the 3ps or not
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    Completed And before someone chimes in and says something...

    And before someone chimes in and says something along the lines of "progression reads BAD", please read Esooa's iso and give your best shot to ascribe an internal thought process there. It's not merely about a lack of stated consistency, it's a lack of any effort that does not result in who she can shade or discredit. Please don't write off or reward this.
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    Completed You are correct in that recollection. This is the...

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3583)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3580)
    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3578)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3576)
    Esooa your progression is all over the place and your ISO reads like you're trying too hard to simulate a town level of uncertainty by doing constant 180's on your reads.
    You realize you don't have to out yourself here right? Just NK me
    I respect the hustle, but you are quite clearly laying it on *way* too thick.
    I don't recall you having done a single useful thing this day phase and you've vote parked th then when someone disputes the being a wolf you whine that my correct reads aren't "fancy" enough for you

    lmao
    You are correct in that recollection. This is the third time you've attempted to discredit a so called town read of yours.

    Let me give it to you straight here Esooa - yes, I've been slacking. This DP has mostly lost interest to me for various reasons.

    But your posts have reeked so badly that I have awoken from my slumber and feel obligated to comment. You are not leading $%#!. You go from saying 3p talk is bad to saying we should lynch one. You flip flopped on your igno read. The most charitable way I can characterize your progression is schizophrenic.
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    Completed I respect the hustle, but you are quite clearly...

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3578)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3576)
    Esooa your progression is all over the place and your ISO reads like you're trying too hard to simulate a town level of uncertainty by doing constant 180's on your reads.
    You realize you don't have to out yourself here right? Just NK me
    I respect the hustle, but you are quite clearly laying it on *way* too thick.
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    Completed No, go right ahead.

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3572)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3569)
    Esooa you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel going after non voters instead of retroactively analyzing yesterday's wagons
    Are you trolling? This is why I don't care to direct town.

    I was going to explain why this post is bad but I don't care to so I deleted what I had
    No, go right ahead.
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    Completed Esooa your progression is all over the place and...

    Esooa your progression is all over the place and your ISO reads like you're trying too hard to simulate a town level of uncertainty by doing constant 180's on your reads.
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    Completed Esooa you're really scraping the bottom of the...

    Esooa you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel going after non voters instead of retroactively analyzing yesterday's wagons
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    Completed Their EoD D1 was pretty atrocious. Seemed to fall...

    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#3362)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3360)
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    You are removing a very important piece of context from the equation, namely, that they were caught in a (perceived) contradicting situation and had to adapt.
    Storm claimed to actually visit them as the gravestone guy but that ended up not being true, right (at least that's what I thought)

    though in what world does scum!fakeclaim have the thought that "yes, I will disprove storm by saying that I got a fake message from one of my hoodmates" instead of "I will push storm as fake"

    It just feels outlandish (?) to be from scum. do you see where I'm coming from?
    Probably a scum that wants to avoid a 50/50?

    I kind of do, but I also feel like that's not nearly enough to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    fair, I guess TH probably doesn't win that 50/50. nevertheless, I urge you to reread TH there, the tonal towntells are fairly easy to spot.

    what's the wagonomics argument for TH being scum
    Their EoD D1 was pretty atrocious. Seemed to fall exactly on whatever the counter wagon to pretender was.

    Then again you could say the same of me. But it's different I swear!
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    Completed Probably a scum that wants to avoid a 50/50? I...

    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#3358)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#3355)
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    triplehaven's posting there feels genuine invest!pov

    if u are scum fakeclaiming dreamer, you would already have who you want to ML in mind

    while in that string of posts, TH is looking for the scum in the duo of {insano/biohaz} and sudden pivot to venti is not a scum move
    You are removing a very important piece of context from the equation, namely, that they were caught in a (perceived) contradicting situation and had to adapt.
    Storm claimed to actually visit them as the gravestone guy but that ended up not being true, right (at least that's what I thought)

    though in what world does scum!fakeclaim have the thought that "yes, I will disprove storm by saying that I got a fake message from one of my hoodmates" instead of "I will push storm as fake"

    It just feels outlandish (?) to be from scum. do you see where I'm coming from?
    Probably a scum that wants to avoid a 50/50?

    I kind of do, but I also feel like that's not nearly enough to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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