I'm going to do some ISO's before I vote but for now:
Makaze still looks pushable but I kinda want the people on him ot do that bc rn it's mostly jus shinori
Ariadne is a bad push imo, idt Bart is insincere but I feel like hehasn't reacted to the stuff posted overnigth yet so i'm kinda curious where that goes
Dunn/Claire wagons I have no strong opinion yet one bc I find those two hard to read on a skim, so I'm going to ISO both
Might join one of those if I like the cases on them, might vote FJP if I don't
Yeah idk I don't feel super strongly about either the dunn or the claire wagon. Cases on claire look like they come from a good place but I overall like what she's been doing. I could sheep Marth's vote on Dunn for voteparking but I feel stronger about fjp and kinda like him voting claire. He'd be my second choice but I'm down to do this until I see where he takes his Claire read.
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Originally Posted by primordial woopons1598830829
(#2467)
alright orange you're towncore now, what do you want to do?
No $%#!ing idea
tbh I think in my heart of hearts I see at least one of supa/pb/claire/mak taking the marth kill N1 because why would a scumteam full of slankers leave the entire highposting crew alive
actually lemme check D1 postcounts to be sure that holds
the other issue is the dead town I've had time to read all townread supa/pb/mak so that really only leaves me one option
the other issue is slankers in LyLo is a recipie for disaster but we get at least one either way
Okay I know this isn't exact and at this point scum!FJP is getting bussed regardless but the only time supa and paper aren't leading a wagon is on the scum lynch
Claire has been the counterwagon to every town lynch
i think it's at least one of claire/sully favoring claire, if it's not fjp we are legit $%#!ed, and if it's not both of claire sully then it's probably one of you or orange with like... paranoid option being supa but i doubt it
i think it's at least one of claire/sully favoring claire, if it's not fjp we are legit $%#!ed, and if it's not both of claire sully then it's probably one of you or orange with like... paranoid option being supa but i doubt it
A combination of sheeping reads from dead town and voting patterns
Like idk how inactive we think wolves can be while still going for a N1 kill on marth over the doc claim or amy/supa/pb/chelsea but I don't think it's super likely both mak and chelsea are town based on D1 votes
Also shinori has come up a few times while I'm digging and rarely very positively
I have no context and am in no position to backread the whole game but that's where I'm leaning after some VCs/ISOs that again do not include either of these players themselves
Maybe I'm off my rocker but this feels like a better inactive lynch
##Vote SullyMcGully
him saying he'll be back and not being back is not good in terms of making me think he was actually unaware of the game start because he's "not in wolf chat"
It's possible he faked not knowing it was 48 hours on D2 but admittedly he would be staking a lot on fake towntells and very little else
Originally Posted by orangeandblack51598804557
(#2376)
Question to people who have been here
We've had two town lynches in a row
Chelsea has been the counterwagon both times
How has this felt? Does the game feel like town has been completely off since D1? Have things kinda just coasted to these lynches with no real movement between the wagons?
frustrating
Okay but has it just felt like we've been barking up the wrong trees? Or has it been more like we've actively been pushed towards the town lynches over Chelsea?
I'm going to do some ISO's before I vote but for now:
Makaze still looks pushable but I kinda want the people on him ot do that bc rn it's mostly jus shinori
Ariadne is a bad push imo, idt Bart is insincere but I feel like hehasn't reacted to the stuff posted overnigth yet so i'm kinda curious where that goes
Dunn/Claire wagons I have no strong opinion yet one bc I find those two hard to read on a skim, so I'm going to ISO both
Might join one of those if I like the cases on them, might vote FJP if I don't
I'm going to do some ISO's before I vote but for now:
Makaze still looks pushable but I kinda want the people on him ot do that bc rn it's mostly jus shinori
Ariadne is a bad push imo, idt Bart is insincere but I feel like hehasn't reacted to the stuff posted overnigth yet so i'm kinda curious where that goes
Dunn/Claire wagons I have no strong opinion yet one bc I find those two hard to read on a skim, so I'm going to ISO both
Might join one of those if I like the cases on them, might vote FJP if I don't
Yeah idk I don't feel super strongly about either the dunn or the claire wagon. Cases on claire look like they come from a good place but I overall like what she's been doing. I could sheep Marth's vote on Dunn for voteparking but I feel stronger about fjp and kinda like him voting claire. He'd be my second choice but I'm down to do this until I see where he takes his Claire read.
So yeah I stand by my statement that FJP's entry was super opportunistic and shallow
Not feeling the town!bart that I usually feel when we play
If I had to pick someone in the claire/yolo/dunn group it's dunn but I'm not sold on there being a scum in there
Mak/Shino both scummy, mak is worse
idk if i want to share townreads beyond the 3 lowposters i mentioned
Those are the lazy scumreads, effort scumreads are probably in my nullpool but i dont rly want to look there yet until we get interactions
uhh hashed it out quickly bc my laptop notified me it's resetting for updates soon but ill see if i can get out more
fjp votes disappearing is sad but natural given that he's afk and also I lowkey forgot the amy wagon even was a thing so ig ill check why that happened and disappeared
That mention of liking FJP for voting claire even though he said 'yeah I kinda like claire' is so $%#!ing weird lol. Maybe you're on to something
uhh i never voted claire much less even expressed suspicion on them
Originally Posted by fairyjigglypuff1598570256
(#1922)
i have 15 minutes
i get the chelsea wagon based on stuff from previous gamedays but can someone give me a tldr of the bart wagon
jumped on the dunn wagon kind of suddenly when it pushed it over the other wagons when he was scumreading them more until that point
tunneled claire D2 onward and hasn't really updated his reads or felt like he was trying to gamesolve
ok sure sold ##Vote Bartozio
Yeah I think if we flip FJP and they're scum (likely PR) I probably always go for Chelsea next
How has this felt? Does the game feel like town has been completely off since D1? Have things kinda just coasted to these lynches with no real movement between the wagons?
Originally Posted by fairyjigglypuff1598312289
(#1529)
fjp here
i just woke up and i have class starting in a few minutes
i havent had time to continue the deep reread i was doing
didnt like yolo's reaction to my fen case
just made a surface level comment on it and then kinda walked back his earlier sr of fen by saying he's "better than marbleympics"
but like yolo's team didnt even vote fen in that game
i didnt comb over that thread to see if they hard sr'd fen at any point but like
the "better than marbleympics" statement just sounds disingenuous
also saw a post from them sod2 saying bbm should never have been the vig shot but like
i didn't see yolo criticizing the shot when amy called for it eod1
not a good look
##Vote YOLOSWAG
Is it this one
what's the issue
clearly it was a bad take but I don't see anything immediately wrong
Originally Posted by fairyjigglypuff1597818412
(#452)
ok fully caught up
re: makaze - in the post i quoted earlier + the next few posts its obvious they’re actively looking for aggressivity in chelsea, even though chelsea’s subsequent posts (or the ones before) arent really even all that aggressive
just has some words and phrases that can be taken as aggressive in a vacuum
its like they’re only looking for things that corroborate their chelsea read and disregarding everything else
but
i think makaze’s push on shinori’s vote derp is whatever, and if anything i dont see the walkback as scummy
readslist (save for the vague doubledown on chelsea) doesnt seem like a pile of bull$%#! either
shinori brushing off the readslist is also a bad look
at the very least the interaction between makaze/shinori doesnt seem like scumscum
and makaze is either town on a bad tunnel on chelsea or scum trying to find an easy miselim
and failing
idk which is true
meh
chelsea’s nonchalance regarding the whole matter is super towny tho
re: athena - +1 to what others have said regarding the vote + nonpush + unvote on mackc2
but also like
what kind of town player goes and says “just answer only to what i asked”
even though mack’s posts were a clear attempt at gamesolving and is at least tangentially relevant to the discussion at hand
this is tonally distinct from how town would’ve prodded mack to answer the question ##Vote Athena_57
Bolded in particular is like
why sink a partner so strongly and then dip on D1 in a game with a Vig, a Doc, and whatever the other thing is
I guess there is actually an argument it could be viable for a scum PR to do so I'll keep that in mind
@mackc2 fyi I'm less interested in whether u agree with the votes and more if u think the pushes are genuine or not
hwat kind of post is this
I don't really know how experienced fjp is at fm in particular but they're pretty inactive and I'd be a bit impressed if they still manage to lead into things this naturally while barely even playing
Originally Posted by Chelsea
