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Originally Posted by Ampharos 1598263570 (#1414)

fenrir's only read on athena prior to eod was a light townread on his entrance in fenrir's bigpost.

think he/yolo are a weird pair if only because based on the timing of yolo's vote, if yolo's a wolf the decision to bus was made v quickly after dunn's claim, and i'd expect it to have been committed to harder.

fen's eod is instead classically wolfy; hard unvote the claim to reassess, reassert that the claim is not exonerating, votes for not-the-wolf, apparently spends time reading athena and decides "not great, but would rather vote someone else". also attempts to keep the dunn option open which is p blatantly antitown

athena's one and only post about fen lumped him in with mack and sully to say "i like basically all of the lowposters". if we go by rule of 3...

i want fen to come back and shrugdunking fen feels super lazy especially if we're wrong, but the eod is bad, the wallpost is not out of his scumrange (source: marblelympics team mafia, which is on this site but i'm too lazy to link it glgl), and the early enthusiasm that i townread hasn't exactly been lived up to by future activity. feels like a bit of showmanship because of the absence

shrug imma vanity vote

##Vote Fenrir

Thinking more about it I'd like to get him today too. Do you think he's likely to be paired with Chelsea instead?

##Vote Fenrir

(I still think there's mafia between Chelsea/Yolo, not sure if both are. I think Fenrir is mafia that is on the sidelines)

In fact I think Fenrir/Yolo is a likely team, I'm not 100% whether Claire fits in that or not.

##Vote YOLOSWAG

In fact I'd vote for fenrir today and feel happy about it. Fenrir, Claire, Yolo

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1598180536 (#1286)

Initial removals from the suspect pool: Dunn, Paperblade, supa, ria, Makaze, fairyjigglypuff

Of the remaining, I feel better about woopons than most of the others - I'm held back by the fakeclaim, I don't THINK scum!woopons would do that but it's weird enough that he exists in this weird liminal state between villager and not.

The remaining pile is: Sully, Shino, YOLO, Claire, Bart, Fen

Yolo I'm currently voting for reasons that I and others have expressed. Claire... I'm kind of starting to think might just be a villager? In a weird spot about it, need to reread with fresh eyes, but I think the commitment to the Ria push seems genuine.

Sully I'm squinting at SUPER super hard if Yolo flips v - his stuff on Athena yesterday was Not Good. Think he's likely a villager off other stuff but his actual content leaves something to be desired here.

Fen eod sequence is... weird. Mild thought that he's unlikely to be w/w with YOLO because his eod is like. Super wolfy if we assume the wolf gameplan WASN'T to bus... but if it was, then Fen's just a lost villager.

Bart and Shino need rereads - Bart because I'm honestly not familiar enough with his content beyond the interaction we had about BBMslot, Shino because I wanna revisit his D1 with fresh eyes. Neither of them being a wolf would surprise me.

...honestly the more I look at it the more Fen's eod reeks. someone sanity check me on that

Wow, I like this post. Or at least your list. Here is what I'm thinking:

[Ampharos, Ria, Paperblade, Supa, Makaze]
[Sully, Shino, Fairyjigglypuff]
[Claire, Yolo, Fen, Bart (?)]

I don't really remember what Bart has done

Yes I think fenrir looks bad yesterday, and I think it was Yolo

I think Fenrir looks pretty scummy.

Originally Posted by Chelsea 1598148011 (#1238)

no one engaged with me on my Dunnstral viewpoint. People said they wouldn't vote him, but truly that is all people did not once engage me on it.

I had to claim to avoid being eliminated, but ok

Not for their reads, that's for sure.

they also forced me to claim/would have shot me

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as town trolling when it could have taken the elim off of mafia. and Shifted away attention from Athena

in case it matters, I healed supa2 last night, not ariadne (threat more dangerous than execution etc)

Amazing.

##Vote Chelsea

I really am doccing ariadne, don't test my claim because there's a maf jailkeeper. Don't shoot primordial either

Originally Posted by Shinori 1597967999 (#1174)

Originally Posted by BBM 1597967969 (#1173)

why are you posturing yolo

Cause yolo scum.

wow, so why couldn't we have voted him today

Originally Posted by BBM 1597967969 (#1173)

why are you posturing yolo

he has to play the part; he has no other reads

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597967862 (#1168)

oh did woopons claim

wack

Eliminate Woopens, Eliminate Yoloswag, Eliminate Chelsea. It's going to be hard to win this game without me around to push this because people have memories like goldfish

Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG 1597967821 (#1167)

Originally Posted by Dunnstral 1597967799 (#1164)

Are we really going to let primordial woopens get away with "he's a troll" by the way?

Eliminate them tomorrow.

If you were town, you'd want him now.

GG dude, I respect your game.

This is really weak, obv I'm not disillusioned about my chances of getting him eliminated in the last 10 minutes here with his fake claim

Like, you guys have to see this, right?

Are we really going to let primordial woopens get away with "he's a troll" by the way?

Eliminate them tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Paperblade 1597967700 (#1158)

can I turn it off?

Yep, mine is off somehow

Originally Posted by Shinori 1597967568 (#1152)

I'm pretty sure we all know weapons is a $%#! troll and he's not.

So that's cool.

That's what I'm worried about

Vig don't shoot Primordial Woopens. Maf has a jailkeeper.

I find it funny that mafia fake claimed to vote me off rather than just kill me at night. Like, ok...? They must not want Athena to die here or something, or is that too on the nose?

Originally Posted by primordial woopons 1597967437 (#1145)

Originally Posted by Paperblade 1597967371 (#1139)

claire too, stop the aizen bull$%#!

Actually this but I would’ve phrased it nicer

hard claim boyo

Originally Posted by primordial woopons 1597966720 (#1100)

Originally Posted by ariadne 1597966171 (#1072)

i suppose that simplifies dunn for me. it really isn't sf without an (almost) d1 doc elimination huh

still reading ath stuff but i think i remain on slight scumread. p#519 looks awful in particular

##Vote athena_57

i'm willing to switch from this (i still dislike claire!) but we definitely should not have our doc at our highest number of votes

Tbh this looks really bad if Dunn actually is doc

Originally Posted by BBM 1597967340 (#1136)

claire's last few posts have been somewhere between anti-town to scum

Then vote her

I want to be very clear here

You don't get to claim vt who was counterclaiming me to get an elimination

Originally Posted by primordial woopons 1597967205 (#1130)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1597967015 (#1119)

I don't think Dunn can be faking. The real doc doesn't have a reason not to CC here.

Oh $%#! that’s me hey look I’m the real doc

ok, then you don't mind dying tomorrow if I flip doc?

Originally Posted by Makaze 1597967015 (#1119)

I don't think Dunn can be faking. The real doc doesn't have a reason not to CC here.

the implication is that they're not around to cc. Of course, I'm going to either die over the night, or we'll make it to the next day and nobody will be ccing

Originally Posted by Makaze 1597966805 (#1104)

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597962874 (#1030)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1597962761 (#1028)

Sneaking back to mention something:

Originally Posted by Shinori 1597961092 (#1000)

Don't worry I know people like inactives shot by a vig but if I'm vig and makaze isn't lynched he's getting shot.

Shinori claimed VT

what is the purpose of this post makaze

Originally Posted by Paperblade 1597963048 (#1032)

remember when I said makaze was constantly shading shinori?

this is what I'm talking about

what does this accomplish but rile someone up

It wasn't directed at Shinori. That was the last post I read before I went back to work, and after ruminating on it I snuck back and pointed it out because I couldn't stop thinking about it. I hadn't read the thread before I posted.

If this is his cover for killing me and claiming vig it shouldn't go unnoticed.

I understand why you're mad if you townread him but even if I had read it I'm not going to ignore a blatant problem because someone is mad I scumread them. I only have so much time.

Stop tunneling

So it looks like Athena is happening today, without a claim, because people don't trust my claim enough to swivel to yolo/chelsea?

Originally Posted by BBM 1597966758 (#1102)

I do not really have an opinion on Dunn but why do people think he is faking? Is it just because they think he's super scummy or is there some particular method to their claim that people don't trust?

Yolo/Chelsea are themselves very scummy and have no visible progression on reads.

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597966630 (#1091)

ngh

is there anyone who DOESN'T think dunn's fakeclaiming?

Stop this, I'm actually not

Originally Posted by Paperblade 1597966600 (#1088)

I legit don't remember other reads yolo and claire have

They don't really have any, as evident by their reactions here

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597966487 (#1082)

i also think dunn's fakeclaiming but it still self-resolves, not mechanically correct to dunk him here

vote for chelsea/yolo tomorrow.

Going to doc ariadne so that the vig is forced to pick a real shot

wow, really towny reactions from yoloswag and chelsea

Also I don't really townread Magnicicance Incarnate, because they keep bringing up verifiable incorrect points against me, then when called out they say "yeah but, ____" and come up with a new reason to keep their vote on me, which wasn't the initial reason they voted me

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597965887 (#1067)

i disagree?

Then vote for them tomorrow

If we don't get chelsea/yolo out here we never will

Granted them voting bartozio and peacing out was kind of bad, other than that I don't see why we should vote them. Also where has FJP been? That guy is suspicious too for laying back and doing nothing for the longest time while this happened

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597965109 (#1057)

Originally Posted by Dunnstral 1597965080 (#1055)

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597964918 (#1052)

lord.

I might be ok with Bartozio or Primordial woopa too, but it'snot preffered today

what's your read on athena

I don't think we should focus on them today. Get Yolo or Chelsea right now. Who's the one who said we could cfd to yolo?

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597964918 (#1052)

lord.

I might be ok with Bartozio or Primordial woopa too, but it'snot preffered today

I claim doctor

Now vote for Chelsea or Yolo

See my problem is I came into this expecting to play mafia, but instead we're playing survivor

Originally Posted by Makaze 1597938107 (#887)

Originally Posted by Dunnstral 1597938031 (#885)

Chelsea

I don't want to vote for Ariadne

Okay so you're not w/w, but that doesn't explain why you think this isn't suicidal for me

Well if we don't get another wagon going then it's either you or me dead, and it doesn't particularly seem like you suspect me. Meanwhile you're in the thunderdome with Shinori, who has entered a primal rage and his field of vision has narrowed

Chelsea

I don't want to vote for Ariadne

This is going to sound hypocritical but you two (Shinori and Makaze) need to stop tunneling

Makaze you can vote for scum with me or you can die, your call

1/3 of the game not willing to vote me isn't a case.

Who was the schmuck who said we could firedrill to YOLO at end of day?

Originally Posted by Magnificence Incarnate 1597932250 (#858)

I legitimately do not understand why Dunn thinks that makaze is town though; Does he think that the wagon on makaze is pure or what?

I mean I do think the people wagoning Makaze are pretty ok, I don't see how that would make me think Makaze is town though, instead of the opposite. They don't feel like scum to me, they seem like they're solving.

Your reasons for finding me suspicious are all over the place you can't even keep your story straight. The things you are accusing me of are stuff that happened after your initial vote, your initial vote was for vote parking an rvs vote, I pointed out it wasn't rvs then you ignored that, you said I was inactive maf buddy, I said I wasn't inactive and you ignored that too.