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    Game Thread this is kinda right ig i'd probably still be...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1942)
    i mean ok shrug

    im getting extremely tempted to clear variance on the admittedly questionable-looking-logic of

    if the guy hates town rands so much then if he finally got his wolfrand in flipless mountainous itd look better than this or else whys this guy ever signing anything

    ##Unvote Variance

    so ya maybe its wiggles after all sure quick
    this is kinda right ig

    i'd probably still be kinda lazy but it'd be more in line with my recent town games where i'm kind of lazy but still somewhat trying so as to replicate my town meta, rather than here where i'm just not really putting in any effort at all

    but that's boring self-meta that i shouldn't be given a townread for
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    Game Thread Mantichora peepeepoopoo

    ##Vote Mantichora

    peepeepoopoo
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    Game Thread i dont wolf read u atm idk why i voted you lol

    Quote Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (#1938)
    variance why am I a wolf?

    just curious
    i dont wolf read u atm idk why i voted you lol
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    Game Thread see my above post lol

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1933)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1930)
    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1925)
    i am finding it harder and harder to scumresad inside knights/wiggles/quick/schweppes

    and on a second tier ive remained feeling decent about euler and volt and ciderhead

    so my default concerns section is scipio / variance (reflexive live townread that went away and stayed away, esp with the giving up at attempting readslist thing) / manti / dolby

    and variance feels like the highest % hit for me rn
    i'm stuck in the never ending cycle of randing villager continually and being a top suspect earlygame because no one knows how to read me
    the ironic thing is that i had you confidently town d2 all of the last game we were v/v together (i was obvious alternate account and you basically went over because hellbussing macdougall said you were scum and a bunch of people sheeped him)

    can you at least admit youre being extra lazy this game
    see my above post lol
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    Game Thread admittedly this is in part due to me not caring...

    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1930)
    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1925)
    i am finding it harder and harder to scumresad inside knights/wiggles/quick/schweppes

    and on a second tier ive remained feeling decent about euler and volt and ciderhead

    so my default concerns section is scipio / variance (reflexive live townread that went away and stayed away, esp with the giving up at attempting readslist thing) / manti / dolby

    and variance feels like the highest % hit for me rn
    i'm stuck in the never ending cycle of randing villager continually and being a top suspect earlygame because no one knows how to read me
    admittedly this is in part due to me not caring about games because i hate village rands at this point but still
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    Game Thread i'm stuck in the never ending cycle of randing...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1925)
    i am finding it harder and harder to scumresad inside knights/wiggles/quick/schweppes

    and on a second tier ive remained feeling decent about euler and volt and ciderhead

    so my default concerns section is scipio / variance (reflexive live townread that went away and stayed away, esp with the giving up at attempting readslist thing) / manti / dolby

    and variance feels like the highest % hit for me rn
    i'm stuck in the never ending cycle of randing villager continually and being a top suspect earlygame because no one knows how to read me
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    Game Thread nvm watching avatar last airbender bye

    nvm watching avatar last airbender bye
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    Game Thread making a reads list maybe while $%#!ting and...

    making a reads list maybe while $%#!ting and crying
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    Game Thread did you not see the part where i heavily implied...

    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#1848)
    Quote Originally Posted by voltairenism (#1843)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#1841)
    Quote Originally Posted by voltairenism (#1839)
    i feel like wiggles is looking meh today just bc he mostly interacts with whoever is talking abt him
    Have I not made my worldview clear/given analysis on the main target's (scipio) posts/given short analysis of my suspicions/game state.

    I like to spend time questioning people's takes on me as well but there's still more than half of the day to go.

    I feel like I got abuse for this yesterday, you guys seem to value posting a lot early.

    Knights called me underwhelming and then didn't show up for the last like 8 hours of the game which is where i did a large bulk of my posting because it was evening in Europe.

    You can't really decide how lackluster someone's day is in a post capped game before half the day is even up?
    take my critcism and make the rest of the day worth it then
    No, you take mine, I'm playing way more than reasonably and it's disgusting that as the games 3rd highest poster I'm getting grief for being lacking while you guys have to work way less hard to get town reads.

    I actually have to deal with people bringing up conspiracies that I'm trying to mislynch them or that I'm somehow opening wolfing with a friend of mine. People in this thread aren't $%#!ting themselves and make a single read and they get town reads. So forgive me for spending some time telling people why their reads are terrible on me.
    did you not see the part where i heavily implied my push on you was a reaction test or
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    Game Thread iaafr is like never wolf i dont think i may be...

    iaafr is like never wolf i dont think

    i may be garbage at wolf reads but my confident village reads are like good imo
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    Game Thread i havent made one but i can do after dinner it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#1765)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1752)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#1745)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1730)
    has there been even one decent point made as for why i could be a wolf
    I liked your iso yesterday. It's mainly the Vandy kill that gives me concerns tbh.

    One question that did occur to me on catch up: if you didn't like the Sett case yesterday, why didn't you vote on Scipio earlier?

    You vocalised dislike but it strikes me you didn't really try and do anything about it
    because my argument want rly 'sett seems villagery' it was that iaafr's case didn't seem nearly as good to me as people were making it out to be

    i had mixed thoughts on scipio so i didnt rly have a preference for who to vote because i had them both at like null for quite a bit of d1, but right at the end i think the fact that like everyone was ~fine with sett going over and the amount of confidence displayed in iaafr's case on sett was enough to give me a village lean on sett, hence my (attempted) vote on scipio right at the end
    Okay, thanks.

    To echo vandy's question I just quoted, do you have a reads list rn?
    i havent made one but i can do after dinner

    it probably wont be good because tbqh i dont have much of an idea as to who wolves are except probably the low posters have >rand w equity

    my stuff with wiggles was kinda throwing $%#! at a wall and seeing what sticks lol but i think his response to my pressure was decent
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    Game Thread yes uwu

    Quote Originally Posted by voltairenism (#1764)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1760)
    anyway bbl dinner
    brazilian butt lift dinner
    yes uwu
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    Game Thread anyway bbl dinner

    anyway bbl dinner
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    Game Thread i wsnt rly super vocal about it tbh but...

    Quote Originally Posted by voltairenism (#1758)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#1745)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1730)
    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1728)
    manti like

    doesnt exactly play differently with a wagon existing on him

    i've seen him roll over and die as both alignments; he just does what he wants

    in that regard votes on variance may have higher relative payoff and the opportunity cost of voting manti is high when votes anywhere else might do more

    basically everyone vote variance now
    has there been even one decent point made as for why i could be a wolf
    I liked your iso yesterday. It's mainly the Vandy kill that gives me concerns tbh.

    One question that did occur to me on catch up: if you didn't like the Sett case yesterday, why didn't you vote on Scipio earlier?

    You vocalised dislike but it strikes me you didn't really try and do anything about it
    anyway my point to this is that i think variane was actually quite vocal abt wanting a cfd to scipio
    i wsnt rly super vocal about it tbh

    but between my denial of the case and saying something like 'i'm surprised the votes on sett are so unanimous with this case' i think the intent was kinda obvious
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    Game Thread because my argument want rly 'sett seems...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#1745)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1730)
    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1728)
    manti like

    doesnt exactly play differently with a wagon existing on him

    i've seen him roll over and die as both alignments; he just does what he wants

    in that regard votes on variance may have higher relative payoff and the opportunity cost of voting manti is high when votes anywhere else might do more

    basically everyone vote variance now
    has there been even one decent point made as for why i could be a wolf
    I liked your iso yesterday. It's mainly the Vandy kill that gives me concerns tbh.

    One question that did occur to me on catch up: if you didn't like the Sett case yesterday, why didn't you vote on Scipio earlier?

    You vocalised dislike but it strikes me you didn't really try and do anything about it
    because my argument want rly 'sett seems villagery' it was that iaafr's case didn't seem nearly as good to me as people were making it out to be

    i had mixed thoughts on scipio so i didnt rly have a preference for who to vote because i had them both at like null for quite a bit of d1, but right at the end i think the fact that like everyone was ~fine with sett going over and the amount of confidence displayed in iaafr's case on sett was enough to give me a village lean on sett, hence my (attempted) vote on scipio right at the end
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    Game Thread do you not think i'm wolf im confused

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1737)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#1732)
    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1728)
    manti like

    doesnt exactly play differently with a wagon existing on him

    i've seen him roll over and die as both alignments; he just does what he wants

    in that regard votes on variance may have higher relative payoff and the opportunity cost of voting manti is high when votes anywhere else might do more

    basically everyone vote variance now
    making fake wagons doesnt work
    it does sometimes but at the same time wiggles is more of a scipio partner than variance and variance has gr8 tone
    do you not think i'm wolf

    im confused
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    Game Thread also if you think sett was villager i don't see...

    also if you think sett was villager i don't see why you're jumping to the conclusion that i'm wolf when i would probably be the most villager motivated player in the game eod yesterday in that world
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    Game Thread has there been even one decent point made as for...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1728)
    manti like

    doesnt exactly play differently with a wagon existing on him

    i've seen him roll over and die as both alignments; he just does what he wants

    in that regard votes on variance may have higher relative payoff and the opportunity cost of voting manti is high when votes anywhere else might do more

    basically everyone vote variance now
    has there been even one decent point made as for why i could be a wolf
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    Game Thread wiggles response is ~fine theknightsofneeee

    wiggles response is ~fine

    ##Vote theknightsofneeee
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    Game Thread wiggles and scipio

    Quote Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (#1531)
    variance

    hi



    who do you want to kill?
    wiggles and scipio
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    Game Thread this isn't a wolf trying to bait town into...

    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#1051)
    Anyone town read variance? And if you do have you re-evaluated in a while?
    this isn't a wolf trying to bait town into snowballing lhf surely not
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    Game Thread gm

    Quote Originally Posted by MendesHotter (#1592)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1511)
    hungrybox just popped off while i was on high volume and probably woke up my entire family
    nice

    good morning
    gm
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    Game Thread you putting me in null with wiggles and scipio as...

    Quote Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (#1545)
    knights
    cider
    iaafr

    quick
    euler
    schweppes
    mendes

    voltaire
    variance

    manti
    dolby

    wiggles
    scipio
    you putting me in null with wiggles and scipio as your top 2 wolf reads when i'm the player that's probably least likely to be on a wolf team with either is kinda funny
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    Game Thread i'd care if you didn't change your wolf reads...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1582)
    probably actually just wanna kill scipio and variance
    i'd care if you didn't change your wolf reads every 2 nanoseconds
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    Game Thread Dolby nerd

    ##Vote Dolby

    nerd
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    Game Thread im fish

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    Game Thread iaafr ** sorry

    iaafr ** sorry
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    Game Thread i feel like there was definitely some $%#!y...

    i feel like there was definitely some $%#!y going on wrt the levels of confidence displayed from people outside of iiafr re: iiafr's case on sett

    pretty sure iiafr is a villager from how genuine the push seemed but i don't trust people that latched onto his case
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    Game Thread why did sett die over scipio yday honestly lol

    why did sett die over scipio yday honestly lol
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    Game Thread hungrybox just popped off while i was on high...

    hungrybox just popped off while i was on high volume and probably woke up my entire family
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    Game Thread wiggles1993

    ##Vote wiggles1993
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    Game Thread D:

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1503)
    sorry but your family must die
    D:
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    Game Thread hi its 4:26am idk why im awake

    hi

    its 4:26am idk why im awake
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    Manual in llol

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    Game Thread Scipio1

    ##Vote Scipio1
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    Game Thread i did read all of the first game you posted and...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1182)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1181)
    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1173)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1171)
    ##Vote wiggles1993

    this slot is probably wolf from their progression on me which basically screams 'i want this player set up as a ml'
    honestly ive seen it this way which is part of my scumread on wiggles

    honestly im just annoyed you dont agree with my case because i think the differences are apparent and sett's lack of fire this game comparably is apparent

    but ok
    do you mind making more specific comparisons, like which posts from his town games you mentioned are specifically very different compared to this game for you

    because honestly there's a $%#! ton of quotes in what you posted and idk if i can b bothered to read all of it lol
    uhm

    theyre short quotes

    honestly id rather you just say you dont have the attention span to have an opinion if thats the reality

    rather than implying youve actually read it and dont agree

    if you havent read the posts
    i did read all of the first game you posted and skimmed the 2nd, i've now fully read the 2nd

    i still don't see specifically what is so significantly different to you

    i'd probably agree he's a bit more blunt and willing to solve in the first game you mentioned but from the looks of it the 2nd game you posted is relatively similar to this game but less efforting

    admittedly i also dont rly know this person at all and it sounds like you and others do so uh idk
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    Game Thread do you mind making more specific comparisons,...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1173)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1171)
    ##Vote wiggles1993

    this slot is probably wolf from their progression on me which basically screams 'i want this player set up as a ml'
    honestly ive seen it this way which is part of my scumread on wiggles

    honestly im just annoyed you dont agree with my case because i think the differences are apparent and sett's lack of fire this game comparably is apparent

    but ok
    do you mind making more specific comparisons, like which posts from his town games you mentioned are specifically very different compared to this game for you

    because honestly there's a $%#! ton of quotes in what you posted and idk if i can b bothered to read all of it lol
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    Game Thread don't really care about d1s mostly i try when...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1172)
    i think variance has to die no matter what unless he turns it up lmao
    don't really care about d1s mostly

    i try when i need to like 95% of the time
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    Game Thread wiggles1993 this slot is probably wolf from...

    ##Vote wiggles1993

    this slot is probably wolf from their progression on me which basically screams 'i want this player set up as a ml'
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    Game Thread oh wow people just basically unanimously dived...

    oh wow people just basically unanimously dived onto sett from that case lol

    meh not feeling it
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    Game Thread dont rly care for the game specific reads besides...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#1117)
    Quote Originally Posted by Variance (#1116)
    hi im here
    check ur mentions for my sett case plz
    dont rly care for the game specific reads besides the stuff about the 'me/knights/wiggles narrative' stuff from him which i also thought of as weird at some point

    personally don't see how his town game and his play here is different to a satisfactory degree but that might just b me not looking into it enough lol
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    Game Thread hi im here

    hi im here
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    Game Thread Sleep

    Quote Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (#1014)
    @Variance @Euler @MendesHotter @Schweppes

    its time to cast a vote
    ##Vote Sleep
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    Game Thread These are mountainous ratios. We have a free kill...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#972)
    These are mountainous ratios. We have a free kill to work with. Deliberately min posting is tantamount to a n1 sub except its an informed choice as opposed to an OoG mod action.

    Therefore it's >rand w strictly speaking.

    Holistically speaking, we're doing the whole of MU a favour by taking an L to kill someone who is breaking the social contract.

    Finally, by killing a player at ==rand, every V read you have increases the odds of a wolf flip on a ~rand kill drastically, so to all these village hunters out there killing a rand slot is >rand EV overall.
    These are mountainous ratios. We have a free kill to work with. Deliberately min posting is tantamount to a n1 sub except its an informed choice as opposed to an OoG mod action.

    Therefore it's >rand w strictly speaking.

    Holistically speaking, we're doing the whole of MU a favour by taking an L to kill someone who is breaking the social contract.

    Finally, by killing a player at ==rand, every V read you have increases the odds of a wolf flip on a ~rand kill drastically, so to all these village hunters out there killing a rand slot is >rand EV overall.
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    Game Thread why wasnt i invited to the wedding

    Quote Originally Posted by voltairenism (#967)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#966)
    Quote Originally Posted by voltairenism (#964)
    im always down for a policy yeet but in this setup in specific i feel that going after the scummiest is the best tbh
    I found Dolby's partner
    i knew someone would say that

    yes hes my partner. we are married
    why wasnt i invited to the wedding
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    Game Thread uh i townread Schweppes, Quick, Mendes and...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#881)
    Variance. I’m not quite sure where you’re at right now. Would you mind giving me some something resembling a readslist?
    uh

    i townread Schweppes, Quick, Mendes and maybe (probably) Volt

    everyone else feels like a decent amount below all of those players imo

    there's some things from you and scipio that i've kinda liked but i need to read into more

    everyone else feels like the same level of whatever to me rn lol

    manti actually doing some stuff d1 is mildly interesting but idk how to feel about it
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    Game Thread i read volt's past games and i ikinda confused...

    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#880)
    Maybe I'm somewhere like here:

    Ciderhead
    theknightsofneeee
    Vandyfan402

    Variance
    voltairenism
    Sett
    Euler

    iaafr
    MendesHotter
    Schweppes
    Scipio1

    Quick
    Mantichora
    Dolby


    Maybe Scipio deserves more credit, maybe Variance doesn't deserve so much. I reread Volt after Variance just questioned them and still found their posts quite towny.
    i read volt's past games and i ikinda confused myself i think

    i think volt's posts r villagery in a vacuum tho
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    Game Thread idk how to feel about volt lol

    idk how to feel about volt lol
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    Game Thread A lot of like the top posters I feel kinda...

    A lot of like the top posters I feel kinda indifferent on

    Which is interesting
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    Game Thread Leaning Schweppes v I $%#!ing hate the curse...

    Leaning Schweppes v

    I $%#!ing hate the curse of like only being able to make village reads

    I’ll try explain my v reads later cuz I’m out with my dog atm lol
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