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    Thread: Labelization

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    Rejected Oh, right, I don't have to sanitize my own inputs...

    Oh, right, I don't have to sanitize my own inputs cause I'm not staff.

    Why are you suggesting to treat bigotry - that involve a permanent ban in a significant amount of cases - with kid gloves?
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    Completed "man this is so weird how is there a confirmed...

    "man this is so weird how is there a confirmed busdriver a confirmed jailkeeper and me, who while is confirmed to nobody I know I exist, exists in the same game, with a possible empowerer. How is scum ever supposed to make a kill lol. whats scum counterplay"

    "..."

    "must be a strongman, maybe?"

    "...."

    "....oh. I see. yikes."

    also a thought: wrt my Poe post, I forgot Yolo existed didn't I
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    Completed I cannot read

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3191)
    doesn't look like ptsd has to perform the kill himself for his role to trigger
    I cannot read
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    Completed just realised Ren being passively empowered is...

    just realised Ren being passively empowered is potato if PTSD is carrying the kill every night for optimal use
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    Completed the only reason why we think there's a blocker is...

    the only reason why we think there's a blocker is a) Ren n3 and b) the n1 mess

    the only reason why we think there could be a redirect is zeep n1

    im having a Thought about putting vanillaizer and roleblocker in the same team and I should just frankly Just Not Care but im a dum dum
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    Completed im kinda just thinking this is so bad if zeep...

    im kinda just thinking this is so bad if zeep doesn't flip wolf

    zeep probably flips wolf though

    donk puff
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    Completed I just wanted to complain that things are going...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3177)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3173)
    smartbomb: I think X is a wolf
    ppl: yea
    is wrong, eternal suffering

    smartbomb: Uhhhh I think X may be a wolf???
    Amy: ok blocking Ren

    I hate it here
    find me an explanation for n1 that isn't a mechanical 50-50 between OM and ren and i'll reconsider
    I just wanted to complain that things are going according to what I'm thinking
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    Completed hilariously if Ren is strongwilled this actually...

    hilariously if Ren is strongwilled this actually means nothing, huh
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    Completed smartbomb: I think X is a wolf ppl: yea is...

    smartbomb: I think X is a wolf
    ppl: yea
    is wrong, eternal suffering

    smartbomb: Uhhhh I think X may be a wolf???
    Amy: ok blocking Ren

    I hate it here
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    Completed out an intended target if zeep flips red ye ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3169)
    should i out my intended target in the event tenzhii flips red, just in case i whiff and eat $%#!
    out an intended target if zeep flips red ye

    note that if they flip green you shouldn't be following your own advice etc
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    Completed it doesn't matter fwict cause it's not the entire...

    it doesn't matter fwict cause it's not the entire role

    doesn't say that I may have another ability eg, it just confirms that ability is in the game

    honestly just asked in the vain hope it'd be clearing for me but... im still dog-in-fire this is fine.
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    Completed mistyx can i ask you about what your n2 ability...

    mistyx can i ask you about what your n2 ability did
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    Completed hi om what were your targets last night just fwiw

    hi om what were your targets last night just fwiw
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    Completed i think wolves are in {Ren, tenzhii, Sami} and...

    i think wolves are in {Ren, tenzhii, Sami} and its very very unlikely sami. i imagine others will put me in there which i'd be unsurprised about. possibly schia, yolo as like second tier "if things really go wrong" and id have to squint a lot

    my major evaluation on ren stuff is that both ptsd/spiderz didn't really talk about tbz which is strange; im sure a lot of people clowned on him for likely being a flaker but they didn't in particular. tbz is a pretty open push for spiderz and he didn't do it; then again he didn't push my slot which is concerning but maybe he can't push blurb for whatever reason. both ptsd/spiderz kind of tried to dodge the whole ren/sr stuff as much as they could which is kiiinda :V

    ptsd's read on tbz is uhhhhhh not great

    ren having an undefined wolf role could break the mechanical issues idk

    all of the above are fairly circumstantial. and there's also the n3 block on ren that's kinda :V, in that i can't see that being a) false and b) not from a wolf. i am not confident on this; the most likely answer is that zeep is a wolf i guess.

    this situation kind of irks me
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    Completed it implies you already know a wolf lol i don't...

    it implies you already know a wolf lol

    i don't doubt the restriction exists im just a bit surprised as to why it exists.
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    Completed that's weird phrasing. knowingly target, huh ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Transmuter (#3114)
    Quote Originally Posted by Transmuter (#3113)
    Quote Originally Posted by LittEleven (#3110)
    should really post more on my side

    rolepm has mechanical information to prove zeep / i can't be w/w ; and sami has it tonight to confirm that
    what mechanical info are u referring to?
    actually yea Litt/tenzhii cant be w/w. The roleswap mentions that it cant knowingly target a wolf on n1.
    that's weird phrasing. knowingly target, huh

    we know not to directly quote from role pms im just musing on that
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    Completed oh i guess i didn't post it but that's like. 4...

    oh i guess i didn't post it but that's like. 4 ways the kill can fail/go wrong between amy's jail, my bpv, ren's doc, and om's driver

    and theoretically i could give my bpv to amy which makes things really gross

    this is very thinky face
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    Completed - OM hasn't posted so idk lmao - my bpv operates...

    Quote Originally Posted by Transmuter (#3106)
    idr but did OM claim who he tried to bus last night? trying to think what could have happened in a world where amy's jail failed/got redirected. also just realized the failed kill might've been due to disq's bpv and not the jail.
    - OM hasn't posted so idk lmao
    - my bpv operates like an eimm bpv and is received at low priority, and it's pretty clear i haven't given out my bpv before n3. there is no way my bpv could have been responsible for the lack of this nightkill
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    Completed i also do not think they are lying! i just like...

    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#3101)
    Tbh its zeep so I'm not terribly sold on the idea they are lying when they said they wanna do something in the moment then proceeds to do other stuff that distracted them
    i also do not think they are lying! i just like clowning on zeep for not understanding what "signup" means
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    Completed that is exactly what i was thinking, yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3099)
    that is exactly what i was thinking, yes
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    Completed (i still do want to kill zeep in case that wasn't...

    (i still do want to kill zeep in case that wasn't clear and this attitude is not helping me change my mind)
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    Completed Ren4977

    ##Vote Ren4977
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    Completed so why are you scumreading om then

    so why are you scumreading om then
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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#3079)
    i still think we can just occams razor this and vote the person who has said 0 lines and whose action inexplicably conflicts with na summaries

    ##Vote OM Room
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    Completed you are aware mistyx confirmed om did visit two...

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#3086)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3085)
    zeep i do not understand anything about your thought process wrt om

    this is saying something because i will admit you have interest and agenda and progression on doing things at least more than half the time

    i don't understand what you're doing.
    am i missing something that rules out scum om world
    you are aware mistyx confirmed om did visit two players n1

    name a role that does this that isn't busdriver
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    Completed zeep i do not understand anything about your...

    zeep i do not understand anything about your thought process wrt om

    this is saying something because i will admit you have interest and agenda and progression on doing things at least more than half the time

    i don't understand what you're doing.
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    Completed :|

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    Completed PTSD Spew Ampharos LittEleven - p#177 is a...

    PTSD Spew

    Ampharos
    LittEleven - p#177 is a post which is a lot of words, some shade and says literally nothing. The phrasing of p#836 implies spewed town. p#865 keeps trying to shore up the townread. p#1084 makes me feel like PTSD doesn't actually have the ability to call the vote bad but still keep the townread on Litt as w/w.
    Mistyx - p#836 is kind of a spurious way to call Mistyx wolf and doesn't really make much sense. I... like that.
    OM Room - p#186 interaction is heavily not w/w. p#382 is a town read on OM that has a lot of words, which at that early stage I want to say is ~v + the followup of p#385 likely makes it as "too much headspace on OM" for them to be aligned. Even more thought on p#836 that implies he's going for a pocketed/comfort thing rather than anything else.
    Ren4977
    Schiavetto - kind of a good callout on schia in p#1351.
    Secondhand Revenant - p#434 feels lightly TMI-y. Claim implies SR is an obvious villager.
    SmartBomb
    Transmuter
    Utsuho Reiuji - Shows up as a possible scumread in p#836 in passing and tied to Mistyx. Ew. Gets called about by PTSD. Oh god this response. I don't really like p#1079 either. p#1089 bleh
    YOLOSWAG

    Spiderz Spew

    Ampharos
    LittEleven
    Mistyx - p#616 is pretty good shade. p#638 is better shade.
    OM Room - lol im not writing postnumbers Spiderz bodied him we're not going here
    Ren4977
    Schiavetto
    Secondhand Revenant - generally "townread, not gonna touch" which goes either way
    SmartBomb
    Transmuter - not fantastic in p#611 (tr) and then p#645 is uhhhh.
    Utsuho Reiuji - p#826 is just hard defense and it just.... continues.
    YOLOSWAG - decent writing towards YOLO in p#611, and it keeps up in p#616. There's a whole subplot here that continues in p#679. I'm reading through and this doesn't seem likely as a thing.


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    there's other stuff but I have to go res now and there's also both of their readlists that i'll quote later

    It's better to look at it this way so you can see who is missing in interactions as well.

    amy has some spew but im going bye
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    Completed my brain, too, zones out when i know the...

    my brain, too, zones out when i know the alignment of my partner and don't know how to townread them
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    Completed hold on this post sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by PassTheSaltDude (#873)
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#866)
    i cant quote cause i have multiquotes so

    829 im not trying to analyze reads on reads, if your read on amy concerned her read on arby you didnt make that clear at all and i take issue with that.

    how arby plays this game is not my concern atm nor is anyone elses read on him, you made it clear that the read was about the wagon in general so why is this about arby now

    834 what is offputting? now that i think abt it you didnt even answer the question of if you thought the basis of the read was solid or not so if anything im put off by how suddenly you shifted from a read to accusing me of a defense

    836 ok what is scummy abt me

    840 i hope you dont also fall into this pattern

    853 .-. its still not a defense

    taking a break to play ballistic, im still gonna post my amy read when i finish my break
    If i’m being honest it’s less about your scumminess and more about how you aren’t giving me that immediate town feeling like the other 3 slots.

    I don’t think i’ve ever played a game with you before so it’s really hard to try and read your slot. Especially since my brain zones out a lot whenever I read one of your posts (Idk why, but it’s just hard for me to pay attention to certain people.)

    The push on Mistyx on how they got 4 votes relatively quickly, makes me feel like some part of the Mistyx wagon involves scum. and with my current TR it Poes down to you two.
    hold on

    this post sucks
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    Completed i have written my mechanical summary and pasted...

    i have written my mechanical summary and pasted it in notepad; I don't think there's a reason to post it given it's just retreading stuff

    im gonna just make a huge post about ptsd and spiderz spew next
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    Completed ren is an empowerer and sr reflected the empower...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3067)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3066)
    im writing up a big post and im just considering briefly that the easiest answer to this is that ren is scum and they don't actually have a red/green safeguard. they have red/green feedback but it's not a functional safeguard

    however this doesn't really explain why ren claimed blocked n3, which implies that the wolf rb was on ren. it would mean ren deliberately fakeclaimed blocked with moderate safety

    om was jailed, so he couldn't have $%#!ed with that

    mulling over that. i would rather think about gameplay right now
    that still doesn't necessarily solve "how did ren successfully target SR through a drive" in and of itself
    ren is an empowerer and sr reflected the empower lol

    @ sr: I... believe I said this exact thing last night and you refuted it in the same way because I am an idiot and forgot lmao.
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    Completed im writing up a big post and im just considering...

    im writing up a big post and im just considering briefly that the easiest answer to this is that ren is scum and they don't actually have a red/green safeguard. they have red/green feedback but it's not a functional safeguard

    however this doesn't really explain why ren claimed blocked n3, which implies that the wolf rb was on ren. it would mean ren deliberately fakeclaimed blocked with moderate safety

    om was jailed, so he couldn't have $%#!ed with that

    mulling over that. i would rather think about gameplay right now
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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
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    Completed dead game

    dead game
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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2998)
    i need to sleep now but dont hammer me tbh i kinda wanna explore this universe further when i wake up

    like im actually intrigued and motivated to play a mafia game past d1
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    Completed I won't be blaming Tommy cause i don't even have...

    I won't be blaming Tommy cause i don't even have all the info and there might be something else at play

    ill blame him in dvc

    but until now we're solving a puzzle with four pieces and not told how many missing pieces there are

    I think we've exhausted all possible combinations of four and they don't fit together

    so
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    Completed im not tbh

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3053)
    the unspoken 4th possibility is "role interactions in this game are hideously broken" but i'm willing to give tommy the benefit of the doubt and assume that everything at least works properly
    im not tbh
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    Completed ok the mechanics ride has been all very fun and...

    ok the mechanics ride has been all very fun and all but om is spewed cleared off spiderz
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    Completed you would think the 1x visit would be a role...

    you would think the 1x visit would be a role someone would claim and not a scummy ability someone is hiding

    so weird
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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Transmuter (#2991)
    OM's bus drive:

    n1 (on SR/blurb): Amy targets SR and SR didn't get blocked, so Amy either got bussed to blurb or got roleblocked. Ren somehow ignored the supposed bus and succeeded on SR.

    n2 (on SR/floood): bussed the scum kill from SR to floood. I tried to target SR w my visit but he didn't get it, I either got bussed to floood or roleblocked.

    n3: blocked by Amy

    so the only ways this bus is fake is if Amy got roleblocked n1, I got roleblocked n2 and scum!OM just killed flooood to make up his fakeclaim for the bus. this also would explain why Ren didn't get bussed to blurb n1.

    OM!town would need an explanation for wtf happened to his bus n1 cause it didn't fully work based on Ren's action succeeding on SR.
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    Completed thinkin about how since everyone is invariably...

    thinkin about how since everyone is invariably telling the truth about their abilities and they're probably town cover for wolf roles at the very least townsided actions no longer matter

    maybe
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    Completed & shub claimed to motivate sami n1 so that...

    & shub claimed to motivate sami n1 so that empower thing is out of the picture
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    Completed they're very helpful

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#3004)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3000)
    ugh

    we've been talking a lot on the mechanical front but ive been processing the actual mafia reads part in my head while we've been talking and im honestly unsure

    see you all tomorrow
    any thoughts on the ptsd spew stuff i posted earlier
    they're very helpful
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    Completed ugh we've been talking a lot on the mechanical...

    ugh

    we've been talking a lot on the mechanical front but ive been processing the actual mafia reads part in my head while we've been talking and im honestly unsure

    see you all tomorrow
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    Completed i uh look forward to it to the rest of you...

    i uh look forward to it

    to the rest of you reading this, shut up
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    Completed mmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2995)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#2992)
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2990)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#2989)
    i wasn't referring to om being mafia either

    i was saying he was blocked by mafia roleblocker
    oh i see

    it might be as simple as om scum now that i think abt it a little
    why do you think that
    same reason i stated above. who gains from redirecting me except om
    mmm
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    Completed well i suppose if that was so OM would've driven...

    well i suppose if that was so OM would've driven some $%#! and it would've been likely to be verified instead of him being blocked so

    yeah its a dumb thought

    nevermind me
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    Completed - amy - om - sr - litt - sami - mistyx...

    - amy
    - om
    - sr

    - litt
    - sami

    - mistyx
    - schia

    - ren
    - yolo
    - zeep

    im pondering that if litt is correct and spiderz was mafia leading the game, what exactly were the other wolves doing

    like spiderz was off trying to Win The Game

    who fits in that mindspace of being with spiderz

    ponderous. eveyrone really has something going for them, i don't really like thinking about games like this

    there is a stupid $%#!ing fringe world where amy roleblocked her own kill and i am spending more than 5 seconds thinking about it
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    Completed why do you think that

    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2990)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#2989)
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuho Reiuji (#2987)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#2986)
    thats cool but that has nothing to do with what i was referring to zeep?
    ah this is just the first time ive seen scum om brought up
    i wasn't referring to om being mafia either

    i was saying he was blocked by mafia roleblocker
    oh i see

    it might be as simple as om scum now that i think abt it a little
    why do you think that
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