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    Sticky: In a game that's supposed to be fairly...

    Quote Originally Posted by Takhitty (#1918)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#1910)
    I'll be passing my spot for the semi-finals. Sadly, this "extra" game before finals makes me unable to play finals, should I reach them, because of the amount of vacation days I got left.
    Well, I could also play without using vacation days, but either I'd be low posting or I'd play in too much of a hurry to enjoy the game.
    Good luck and thank you to who's subbing my spot!
    You need vacation days for playing mafia?
    In a game that's supposed to be fairly competitive, like a semi-final/final game, with a solid sub list of people ready to give a good effort, I feel it's for the best to let another player have a go, rather than me doing maybe 20-30 posts at best.
    Personally I wouldn't enjoy not having the time to put in a proper performance, while I'd be alright with that in most other games, as long as I state activity level prior to game start.
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    Sticky: Thank you all

    Thank you all definitely missing out on a great game with this lineup!
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    Sticky: I'll be passing my spot for the semi-finals....

    I'll be passing my spot for the semi-finals. Sadly, this "extra" game before finals makes me unable to play finals, should I reach them, because of the amount of vacation days I got left.
    Well, I could also play without using vacation days, but either I'd be low posting or I'd play in too much of a hurry to enjoy the game.
    Good luck and thank you to who's subbing my spot!
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    Sticky: DS, at the end of the day, no one really cares...

    DS, at the end of the day, no one really cares all that much about who ends up the champion, as you seem to think.
    That you believe it matters as much as you do, is a clear indication of you not understanding how subjective and high variance Mafia is.
    You're just the one in the bunch claiming the hardest to be the best. I can tell you I think that myself, too - and likely many others do as well, just without the need to claim it.
    Because, it's a silly thing to claim, and there will never be an accurate way of testing and proving those claims.
    Well, maybe if we did 5000 games of the same format in a row, with the same bunch of players, we'd start seeing win rates that could tell a story.
    Congratulations, you're probably a decent player, who puts in a high effort; that puts you above many, indeed.
    Now let people enjoy the rest of the championship, thank you!
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    Thread: Current Staff

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    Sticky: I know its just 8, cause she has me as both NAC...

    Quote Originally Posted by Allundberg (#867)
    Quote Originally Posted by lute (#859)
    there are 9 people I like on this site and one of them just became a mod again

    @Boquise you buffoon
    I hope I am one aswell
    I know its just 8, cause she has me as both NAC and NotACop on the list by mistake
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    Completed Gratz Psycho! That's my #1 and #2 respectively...

    Gratz Psycho!
    That's my #1 and #2 respectively becoming #1 and #2 here ;D
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    Completed Congratz all so far! well deserved semi final...

    Congratz all so far! well deserved semi final spot for you, HD
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    Completed :cheers:

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    Completed I did actually think of that, HD - that it could...

    I did actually think of that, HD - that it could be reason for my dead, after I started suspecting you were the last scum :P
    Really well played tho
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    Completed I think most in dead chat had same suspect as...

    Quote Originally Posted by twomillionbucks (#4736)
    Welp.

    I did warn you guys about my record in final 3s. :P

    I went back over HD's posts a few times, just wasn't seeing evil there. A full suckering. Good work HD. Sorry team.
    I think most in dead chat had same suspect as you, so I wouldn't feel bad at all or sorry.
    Enjoyed your play style and posts a lot!
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    Completed What a slowroll, HumanDawn! :D Congratz! Alos...

    What a slowroll, HumanDawn! Congratz!
    Alos yay, I won a bet on you being last scum

    Great game all around; actually I thought it would be easy win for town after Colin elim. But nope!
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    Definitely a fun tool - well made, Makaze!

    Definitely a fun tool - well made, Makaze!
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    Needs Tested I support the dya/cuth logo - there's something...

    I support the dya/cuth logo - there's something about the "u" color that sort of feels off tho.
    Don't know if "optical illusion" but it looks like a different shade of grey than the square containing the cirlce.
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    Completed sighhh

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    Completed could still be scum claiming for a mislynch.. but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2217)
    Holy $%#!, when Pilica was questioning me about nightkills I read her as JOAT. Good $%#!.
    could still be scum claiming for a mislynch.. but at least we get her sorted out by scum if her claim is true
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    Completed DON'T LYNCH PILICA Michelle Michelle anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilica (#2205)
    $%#! okay I gotta do this:

    HARDCLAIMING JOAT right here and now!
    DON'T LYNCH PILICA

    ##Vote Michelle

    Michelle anyone?
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    Completed he's not exactly impressive at this EOD.. but I...

    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#2201)
    I am honestly tempted to vote HD just to see what happens but I’m too slow on mobile. But everything is senseless so WHY NOT
    he's not exactly impressive at this EOD.. but I had town lean on him at most recent ISO
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    Completed Gonna go with Pilica wagon Pilica

    Gonna go with Pilica wagon
    ##Vote Pilica
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    Completed kinda don't like HumanDawn, Pilica and DarkRula...

    kinda don't like HumanDawn, Pilica and DarkRula being 3/4 others voting Colin with me..
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    Completed I spend like 10+ hours analyzing the game, yet I...

    I spend like 10+ hours analyzing the game, yet I end up sitting here with a feeling I could roll a dice just as well as trying to make my mind up on the options now
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    Completed thoughts on Colin, or do you have a post where...

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanDawn (#2174)
    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2170)
    Why is HD absent for Eod?

    ##Vote HumanDawn
    thoughts on Colin, or do you have a post where they are stated?
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    Completed Thanks! I get the part on me, have been a bit of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin (#2163)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2059)
    @Wisdom and @Colin which of the votes on you do you find the most suspicious/which do you understand best?
    DarkRula's timing is of someone who doesn't want my wagon to go away and based purely on position and timing I'd point to that. HumanDawn's vote feels opportunistic, and his perspective earlier did not line up. He originally voted me based on Psycho's read and then shaded Psycho whilst doing so.

    I can understand Psycho, but I find it disappointing. I spoke with him a fair bit earlier.

    You, I don't get. I feel like you've called me town more than you've called me scum and there's a disconnect or I'm not understanding something there.

    HumanDawn is looking really scummy and DarkRula is more likely a wolf than you I think. I don't expect more than one or two wolves on my wagon as I think they want to be on Wis to see if she's a PR or not.
    Thanks! I get the part on me, have been a bit of a rollercoaster day for me; voted multiple where I ended up feeling bad about the vote; ended up voting you with some suspicion based on a reread of thread. ISO'd you after, and it left me still feeling alright to vote you, but far from convinced you are scum, yet feeling less bad than the others, so yeah
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    Completed Oh, ye I participated in the lynch debate....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2151)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2139)
    Quote Originally Posted by Elbereth Gilthoniel (#2125)
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2107)
    So basically, no one wants to vote Michelle today because there's not enough. I guess I get it, but it feels like people are scared to make a true judgment on her. Props to El for at least elaborating a bit more.

    Thoughts on Eric's input today?
    I don't know. Kinda leaning mild village remembering the analysis on Wisdom and how confident he was in it yesterday - I think Wisdom is village still (y'all are making me paranoid but at the same time I really don't love how people are going 'I'm really uncertain about Wisdom' but not unvoting her) but I don't see him as evil pushing for her death. Probably. Would want to go back and do some analysis but I might move him to mild village for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2115)
    if a hard claim comes I'd say Michelle is a fine choice for CFD.

    I recall having very towny impression of his start on D1; thinking "yep, this guys is town". Would had liked to see more from him at later half of the day, he has been somewhat utr there
    Oh, btw, I keep forgetting to ask - what's CFD stand for?
    CFD = Chinese Fire Drill
    Not exactly intuitive meaning, and probably not appropirate, but it's the term I'm used to seeing
    The discussion surrounding this has happened, just like with the lynch term. I don't remember the conclusion though.
    Oh, ye I participated in the lynch debate. haven't seen the one for cfd tho
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    Completed I'd say statistics are common sense, but well. ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2150)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2133)
    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2121)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2115)
    if a hard claim comes I'd say Michelle is a fine choice for CFD.

    I recall having very towny impression of his start on D1; thinking "yep, this guys is town". Would had liked to see more from him at later half of the day, he has been somewhat utr there
    You want to CFD into a villa slot because you can't read me? I mean you didn't even try to talk to me..
    Cause at this moment, I don't really got much better guesses than Colin, who I'm already voting. I can see a world where Wisdom is scum still, but currently she doesn't look like a good choice. I wouldn't hate a cfd on Picila either, but at least had a bit reason there to think she could be town. Your spot has looked sketchy because of Inky, and subbing out is unfortunately just on default more scummy than towny (I've done the math with old database), while you haven't really made much impression over the hours you've had. Admittedly I haven't attempted much interaction with you before now at EOD.
    Can you give up on statistics and have a little common sense?

    How come you're missing so many hours and at Eod you tell me all you see as scum is me? I don't believe you!
    I am villager just i didn't have time today to proove it
    I'd say statistics are common sense, but well.

    I'm not saying you have done anything scummy, but you haven't done anything towny either, while you subbed in for someone who had 1 post which looked kinda bad.
    I'd much like see you try to get reads right now, poke people, etc. than just complaining about people being OK about your lynch.
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    Completed Russia = Pilica? If so we're basically at...

    Quote Originally Posted by twomillionbucks (#2137)
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2132)
    @EricKline @twomillionbucks @hey_monkey @Pilica if you were to vote someone other than Wisdom today, who would it be?
    Colin, Russia, or Michelle.
    Russia = Pilica?

    If so we're basically at exact same choices
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    Completed CFD = Chinese Fire Drill Not exactly intuitive...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elbereth Gilthoniel (#2125)
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2107)
    So basically, no one wants to vote Michelle today because there's not enough. I guess I get it, but it feels like people are scared to make a true judgment on her. Props to El for at least elaborating a bit more.

    Thoughts on Eric's input today?
    I don't know. Kinda leaning mild village remembering the analysis on Wisdom and how confident he was in it yesterday - I think Wisdom is village still (y'all are making me paranoid but at the same time I really don't love how people are going 'I'm really uncertain about Wisdom' but not unvoting her) but I don't see him as evil pushing for her death. Probably. Would want to go back and do some analysis but I might move him to mild village for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2115)
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2107)
    So basically, no one wants to vote Michelle today because there's not enough. I guess I get it, but it feels like people are scared to make a true judgment on her. Props to El for at least elaborating a bit more.

    Thoughts on Eric's input today?
    if a hard claim comes I'd say Michelle is a fine choice for CFD.

    I recall having very towny impression of his start on D1; thinking "yep, this guys is town". Would had liked to see more from him at later half of the day, he has been somewhat utr there
    Oh, btw, I keep forgetting to ask - what's CFD stand for?
    CFD = Chinese Fire Drill
    Not exactly intuitive meaning, and probably not appropirate, but it's the term I'm used to seeing
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    Completed Cause at this moment, I don't really got much...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2121)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2115)
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2107)
    So basically, no one wants to vote Michelle today because there's not enough. I guess I get it, but it feels like people are scared to make a true judgment on her. Props to El for at least elaborating a bit more.

    Thoughts on Eric's input today?
    if a hard claim comes I'd say Michelle is a fine choice for CFD.

    I recall having very towny impression of his start on D1; thinking "yep, this guys is town". Would had liked to see more from him at later half of the day, he has been somewhat utr there
    You want to CFD into a villa slot because you can't read me? I mean you didn't even try to talk to me..
    Cause at this moment, I don't really got much better guesses than Colin, who I'm already voting. I can see a world where Wisdom is scum still, but currently she doesn't look like a good choice. I wouldn't hate a cfd on Picila either, but at least had a bit reason there to think she could be town. Your spot has looked sketchy because of Inky, and subbing out is unfortunately just on default more scummy than towny (I've done the math with old database), while you haven't really made much impression over the hours you've had. Admittedly I haven't attempted much interaction with you before now at EOD.
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    Completed :lmfao: haven't updated my "not w/W" list since...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2119)
    Quote Originally Posted by Elbereth Gilthoniel (#2110)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2104)
    Quote Originally Posted by twomillionbucks (#2100)
    That proves your JOAT claim is a lie, of course.
    Lol, as I've said, I will vote Colin if I need for self pres.

    I just think HD is likelier scum.
    Hm.

    ##Vote HumanDawn
    This comes off as really non w/w. Make a note @NotACop.

    Also El - Why?
    haven't updated my "not w/W" list since d1 actually!
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    Completed if a hard claim comes I'd say Michelle is a fine...

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#2107)
    So basically, no one wants to vote Michelle today because there's not enough. I guess I get it, but it feels like people are scared to make a true judgment on her. Props to El for at least elaborating a bit more.

    Thoughts on Eric's input today?
    if a hard claim comes I'd say Michelle is a fine choice for CFD.

    I recall having very towny impression of his start on D1; thinking "yep, this guys is town". Would had liked to see more from him at later half of the day, he has been somewhat utr there
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    Completed a shame. cause 180 posts on d2 for someone who...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilica (#2102)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2095)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2085)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2078)
    For real? my guess was that you are the type to post a lot as either?

    Can anyone with meta on Wisdom confirm this?
    What, no? I'm super active d1 (not compared to this one, but at least 50-100 posts in non-light games) to make sure everyone town reads me, then I just lay back and pull the threads.
    People who are voting wisdom, any thoughts on this?
    I'd say that with 180 posts just today, that's sort of a good look, despite champ games might not count.
    @Pilica I believe you got meta enough to say something about this
    We played some games yes but I've never seen mafia!Wisdom before. So I can neither confirm nor deny it.
    a shame. cause 180 posts on d2 for someone who claims to not do more than 30 as scum is note worthy.
    not to clear wisdom on this, but might be you could come with good info on this if you had more meta than a few games
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    Completed well Colin first coming later he said, so a bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2096)
    Once again we're at an EoD where the wagons don't want to vote each other, btw :P
    well Colin first coming later he said, so a bit hard to judge but I recall he had you as town ye
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    Completed People who are voting wisdom, any thoughts on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2085)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2078)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2076)
    I wish this was my scum game tbh. I've never passed 30 posts as scum after d1 I think.
    For real? my guess was that you are the type to post a lot as either?

    Can anyone with meta on Wisdom confirm this?
    What, no? I'm super active d1 (not compared to this one, but at least 50-100 posts in non-light games) to make sure everyone town reads me, then I just lay back and pull the threads.
    People who are voting wisdom, any thoughts on this?
    I'd say that with 180 posts just today, that's sort of a good look, despite champ games might not count.
    @Pilica I believe you got meta enough to say something about this
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    Completed Alright. Soldier only you'd vote? He is high town...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2082)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2067)
    Has Michelle said anything since she did that half catch up?
    Not much.

    I dislike to vote Wisdom as a joat claim, i iso-ed Rula and Colin and i don't feel the need to vote there.

    Monkey feel townie, Soldier feels manipulative but idk if wolfy

    Pilica if scum pocketed me good.
    Alright. Soldier only you'd vote? He is high town for me, and I think he's one of the most unlikely wagons as of right now
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    Completed I recall you had 500 games, so that's quite...

    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2078)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2076)
    I wish this was my scum game tbh. I've never passed 30 posts as scum after d1 I think.
    For real? my guess was that you are the type to post a lot as either?

    Can anyone with meta on Wisdom confirm this?
    I recall you had 500 games, so that's quite significant if true. Is it forum mafia games?
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    Completed For real? my guess was that you are the type to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2076)
    I wish this was my scum game tbh. I've never passed 30 posts as scum after d1 I think.
    For real? my guess was that you are the type to post a lot as either?

    Can anyone with meta on Wisdom confirm this?
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    Completed How much preference do you have on the Pilica...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elbereth Gilthoniel (#2073)
    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#2035)
    Quote Originally Posted by Elbereth Gilthoniel (#2031)
    I mean..... Say she's evil, and she has to lie about this. She seems to have a pretty good idea of who the PRs are / be good at hunting them - therefore, even if she doesn't know exactly who the Jacks are she probably has at least one person who she's pretty certain is not a Jack. She could just say them.
    I like this whole post but I agree here - she's put thoughts into PR presence in the game that I also find anti-town.
    That's, hm. Okay, I do see a little where you're coming from now, though I feel like if she were evil she wouldn't be so public about it. Though maybe the cover of being a Jack would let her probe a little more for the actual Jacks?

    I don't know. I'm a little less certain now but still won't go for a Wisdom vote today. I've felt good about her throughout; I have suspicions of Pilica and HD and have a hard time imagining her as evil with either of them; up until now people I trust have read her as good as well. I'll look into it more tomorrow if she's still around but... At most I'm moving her down to 'mild village' right now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pilica (#2053)
    Quote Originally Posted by Elbereth Gilthoniel (#2044)
    Quote Originally Posted by twomillionbucks (#2017)
    Elbereth, no one should counterclaim Wisdom because there are two JOATs, so a second claim wouldn't prove anything. The JOATs should wait until one of them claims naturally, and then if one of them is not Wisdom the other can claim.
    Ah. Yeah, no, I understand that. I was thinking of counterclaiming once there were already two claims, so nvm me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilica (#2018)




    The... deepwolf is exactly that? Someone seeming obvious villager? But is not?
    Yeah but... Yeah, I guess I see your point. I disagree - I will be utterly shocked and impressed if Monkey is evil - but I can't argue with paranoia.


    Quote Originally Posted by HumanDawn (#2025)
    I haven't given a reads list, but I'm leaning Town (though slightly paranoid of...) on:

    hey_monkey
    twomillionbucks
    NotACop
    Psycho

    Null:

    Pilica
    Michelle
    Grumporo
    Elbereth
    EricKline
    DarkRula

    Leaning Scum:

    Wisdom
    Colin

    ---

    I feel like one of Pilica and Wisdom are Mafia... I also had some paranoia about Colin and Psycho potentially being scum partners even if Psycho voted him because of the town read lock on me for my part of the case on Colin.
    Okay, that helps! Why the village read on $2M? And could you tell me about your read on Rula?

    RP is common but not necessary (since as you can see from my posts we tend to separate that and game talk for everyone's convenience) but yeah we'll talk! ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilica (#2029)

    … And there people complain I talk too much about Wisdom.

    I would've expected Wisdom to eat the NK.
    Also with the fakeclaim you easily set up letting yourself live longer and to out the JOATs. As well as being able to set up mislims and doing spew.
    Whilst having some normal reads all the relying on other games, meta, spec chat pov I didn't like at all.
    I feel good about her and my Paranoia tells me I only feel good about her because I see her mafia the first time.
    Can you explain the bolded sentence? I don't know what you mean by that.


    By that I mean that I was expecting Wisdom to get killed this night.
    Oh, right. Duh. Meh, I think that turns into a... WIFOM? A WIFOM situation? I don't know what part of speech you guys use for that concept. Given the Jack claim I wouldn't have especially expected her to die.
    How much preference do you have on the Pilica vote compared to any of the current main wagons?
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    Completed Any opinion on current wagons? I see you're not...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2071)
    Soldier the discussion goes into a dead end and i dislike the tone of your posts. Maybe tomorow if i am alive i can post my thoughts, now i am already too tired.
    Do whatever you want with your conclusions.
    Any opinion on current wagons? I see you're not voting still
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    Completed DarkRula at 11 posts today :cantlook:

    DarkRula at 11 posts today
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    Completed Has Michelle said anything since she did that...

    Has Michelle said anything since she did that half catch up?
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    Completed ye I just saw :y:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2062)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2059)
    @Wisdom and @Colin which of the votes on you do you find the most suspicious/which do you understand best?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2057)
    If Colin flips red I think there's at least one scum on me in the order of likelyness: $2M -> Pilica -> Eric -> Monkey.
    Way ahead of you.
    ye I just saw
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    Completed alright I guess that sort of answer my question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2057)
    If Colin flips red I think there's at least one scum on me in the order of likelyness: $2M -> Pilica -> Eric -> Monkey.
    alright I guess that sort of answer my question to you.
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    Completed Wisdom and Colin which of the votes on you do you...

    @Wisdom and @Colin which of the votes on you do you find the most suspicious/which do you understand best?
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    Completed I'm on Colin, and feeling alright about that for...

    Quote Originally Posted by EricKline (#2049)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#2045)
    hahah woah, that's a spicy vote count. The trio that I earlier guessed as the whole scum team
    Get on one of the two wagons asap plz or start starting a new one
    I'm on Colin, and feeling alright about that for now. I see he just showed up as well, so we'll see, I could switch
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    Completed what's the main reasons for the votes as Wisdom,...

    what's the main reasons for the votes as Wisdom, anything happened in the time I've been away?
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    Completed part of me am curious to see that Wisdom flip and...

    part of me am curious to see that Wisdom flip and part of me don't think it's the right choice today
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    Completed hahah woah, that's a spicy vote count. The trio...

    hahah woah, that's a spicy vote count. The trio that I earlier guessed as the whole scum team
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    Completed NAC is back and apparently with $%#!ty internet...

    NAC is back
    and apparently with $%#!ty internet connection
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    Completed ye seems you are a page or two behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilica (#1805)
    Quote Originally Posted by NotACop (#1698)
    ##Vote Pilica
    Yeah I wanna see the reasoning for this. If you said it later on while I still have to catch up ignore it otherwise: Out with it Mr. NotACop!
    ye seems you are a page or two behind
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    Completed So, I'll stick with the Colin vote and hope for...

    So, I'll stick with the Colin vote and hope for the best. Going to "start" my day and go to the gym after some dinner, so I expect to be back in time for EOD, but likely just the last hour.
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    Completed Ok, so I'm still sitting in my underwear, not...

    Ok, so I'm still sitting in my underwear, not having showered today, only eaten breakfast, and it's 18:05 here.. I'll stick with my Colin vote, although I must say I feel less thrilled about it after ISO'ing; but I kinda end up finding everyone somewhat towny that I look into further, and of those, he's still the worse looking. UTR, but the things he writes makes sense, but also his focus today is like only on discussing the D1 EOD, and doesn't vote or push any reads, while stating he's sort of having a bad day. I could vote Michelle, but ye, part of me just thinks it would be a boring result, even if they end up scum, in terms of info, while I have little to nothing on that spot apart from two subouts and a minor dislike for the post Inky made before subbing out.
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