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    Season 3, Game 3: Glee [Mafia Championship]

    SEASON 3, GAME 3: GLEE (MAFIA CHAMPIONSHIP)




    Link to Story and Day/Night Round Ending Results Here.




    Welcome to season 3 of the Mafia Championship!

    An international forum tournament for skilled mafia players from 136 different communities!

    This game will have the following theme: Glee



    Players:
    Agent Of Zion (Fever Clan)
    Cmdr Spock (MyMedia-Forum)
    Da Letter El (Smogon Forums)
    Da Panch (marksforxcellence)
    Danger100ish (Hypixel)
    Dr.SaaB (MafiaManiac)
    dyachei (Student Doctor Network)
    Magnificence Incarnate (Serenes Forest)
    Marrowick (HeroScapers)
    MD4L (Walter Football)
    Minties (The Bell Tree Forums)
    Secondhand Revenant (The Escapist)
    SirDantetheFancy (Oro Jackson)
    SM (BigFooty)
    TheWhoDoctor (Pok?mon Showdown)
    UpsideDownChuck (Play Diplomacy)
    Zeldamaster12 (Super Mario Bros X)


    Hosted By: The automated ModBot w/ the assistance of @Lissa, @Sooh (this game's flavor master) and @the-middle-of-the-line
    Start Date: Monday, May 9th.
    SOD/EOD: Day will begin @ 8:00 PM EDT and will end @ 8:00 PM EDT. If there is early majority (see below), this schedule may shift. Generally, the mods will manually correct the deadlines in these cases to make sure a day doesn't end at a weird or suboptimal time.
    Rules: See the next post for a full description.
    Phase Lengths: 72/24 (4 days per cycle). Day 1 will start at 8:00 PM EDT Monday, May 9 and end at 8:00 PM EDT Thursday, May 12.
    Mechanics: Deadline lynch w/ option for majority starting on Day 2 (i.e. person with most votes is lynched at end of the day phase, unless a majority has been achieved before then, ending the day early), in the case of a tie the lynch will be randomized, no lynch is a valid vote.
    Night Chat In Thread: Not allowed, the thread is closed during night phases.
    Out of Thread Communication: Not allowed under any circumstances, unless you're provided with a private thread allowing for outside communication. This will be detailed in your Role PM.


    Matrix12
    The setup used is called Matrix12. It was designed specifically for this season.

    A B C D E F
    1 Town Jailkeeper Vanilla Townie Mafia Role Cop Vanilla Townie 1-Shot Mafia Strongman Town Odd Night Cop
    2 Mafia Roleblocker Town Alignment Cop Town Doctor Mafia Ninja Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie
    3 1-Shot Bulletproof Townie 1-Shot Mafia Strongman Town Tracker Town Masons (2) Vanilla Townie 1-Shot Mafia Strongman
    4 1-Shot Mafia Strongman 1-Shot Mafia Bulletproof Town Vigilante Town Bodyguard 2-Shot Town Jailkeeper Vanilla Townie
    5 Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Mafia Jailkeeper 1-Shot Mafia Strongman Town Alignment Cop w/ n0 town check Town Jailkeeper
    6 Town Vigilante Town Innocent Child Vanilla Townie Town Tracker 2-Shot Mafia Roleblocker Mafia Watcher


    The host randomizes a letter or a number, deciding which setup is used. I.e. if the host rands C, then the setup will consist of the roles in the C column. The host then adds 2 Mafia Goons to the setup and fills up the rest with Vanilla Townies.

    I.e. setup C would give you this:
    1x Town Doctor
    1x Town Tracker
    1x Town Vigilante
    10x Vanilla Townie

    1x Mafia Role Cop
    1x Mafia Jailkeeper
    2x Mafia Goon


    General notes on the setup:
    • The mafia's factional kill must be assigned to a single member of their team each night. This means that the mafia's factional kill can, for example, be blocked by a Town Jailkeeper or tracked by a Town Tracker.
    • For those wondering, some of the roles in the matrix (e.g. Mafia Ninja and 1-Shot Mafia Bulletproof) will indeed only have value for either the row or the column setup in which it is used and not the other. This is not a mistake, it is done on purpose to only boost the mafia side in one of the two setups.

    Notable restrictions/clarifications:
    • The Mafia Ninja's ability to avoid detection by Trackers/Watchers is non-consecutive. If a Ninja carried out the factional kill on Night 1 and enabled their Ninja ability, they cannot carry out the kill again on Night 2 and enable their Ninja ability for the second night in a row.
    • The Bulletproof roles are passively protected from the first shot fired at them during night. They will not be informed if they lose their vest.
    • None of the included roles can self-target, except for the Mafia Watcher.
    • Doctors, Jailkeepers, and Roleblockers are not allowed to target the same players on consecutive nights.
    • The Innocent Child may choose himself when he wishes to be publicly confirmed in the thread as town. He can only do it during day phases though.
    • The Odd Night Cop may only investigate on odd nights (i.e. Night 1, Night 3, etc.). He won't receive a n0 investigation check.

    Feedback PM's:
    These are the results you will get when you submit certain actions.

    • "Your action on Player A was received." For non-investigative roles when they submit an action, they also receive this if they are roleblocked.
    • "Your action on Player B did not return any results." For investigative roles (tracker, cop, etc.) when roleblocked.
    • "Player C did not visit anyone." or "Player D was visited by no one." For investigative roles when tracking/watching someone where nothing happens (or if a ninja was tracked).



    Example Role PM's:
    Below you will find the role PM's for all the roles used in Matrix12. Some of these will also contain additional information that wasn't outlined above.

    1-Shot Bulletproof Townie:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Vanilla Town + (x1 Bulletproof Vest). You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    BPV (Bulletproof Vest)

    The BPV modifier gives you one or more Bulletproof Vests that passively protect you from one shot each. Each time you are shot, your number of BPVs will decrease by one. If you lose all of your BPVs then you can be killed like everyone else. You will not be notified if a BPV is broken.

    You have 1 BPVs at the start of the game.

    Game Thread: eger


    1-Shot Mafia Bulletproof:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Mafia Goon + (x1 Bulletproof Vest). You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Role Cop)
    Captain Li Shang (Mafia Jailkeeper)
    John Travolta (Mafia Roleblocker)
    Thingyman* (Mafia Goon + (Ninja))
    True Champion (Mafia Goon + (x1 Bulletproof Vest))

    Mafia Chat: eger Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.

    BPV (Bulletproof Vest)

    The BPV modifier gives you one or more Bulletproof Vests that passively protect you from one shot each. Each time you are shot, your number of BPVs will decrease by one. If you lose all of your BPVs then you can be killed like everyone else. You will not be notified if a BPV is broken.

    You have 1 BPVs at the start of the game.

    Game Thread: eger



    1-Shot Mafia Strongman:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for Tesssssssssst

    You are Mafia Goon + (x1 Strongman). You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Goon + (x1 Strongman))

    Mafia Chat: Tesssssssssst Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.

    Strongman

    The Strongman modifier makes killing actions cut through all roleblocking and protection, including factional kills.

    You have 1 Strongman shots at the start of the game. All shots after that will be handled normally.

    Game Thread: Tesssssssssst


    Mafia Goon:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for rrhth

    You are Mafia Goon. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Goon)

    Mafia Chat: rrhth Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.

    Game Thread: rrhth


    Mafia Jailkeeper:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Mafia Jailkeeper. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Role Cop)
    Captain Li Shang (Mafia Jailkeeper)
    John Travolta (Mafia Roleblocker)
    Thingyman* (Mafia Goon + (Ninja))
    True Champion (Mafia Goon + (x1 Bulletproof Vest))

    Mafia Chat: eger Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Jailkeeper

    As Mafia Jailkeeper, you have access to the Jailing Night Action. Jailing another player will both protect that player from being killed as well as prevent that player from being able to successfully use their Night Action that night. You will not learn whether your target was successfully protected from any kills, nor will you learn whether your target had a Night Action. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: eger


    Mafia Ninja:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Mafia Goon + (Ninja). You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Role Cop)
    Captain Li Shang (Mafia Jailkeeper)
    John Travolta (Mafia Roleblocker)
    Thingyman* (Mafia Goon + (Ninja))
    True Champion (Mafia Goon + (x1 Bulletproof Vest))

    Mafia Chat: eger Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.

    Ninja

    The Ninja modifier makes you immune to Watching and Tracking actions. You will not be included in Track or Watch reports.

    Game Thread: eger


    Mafia Role Cop:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Mafia Role Cop. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Role Cop)
    Captain Li Shang (Mafia Jailkeeper)
    John Travolta (Mafia Roleblocker)
    Thingyman* (Mafia Goon + (Ninja))
    True Champion (Mafia Goon + (x1 Bulletproof Vest))

    Mafia Chat: eger Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Role Cop

    As Mafia Role Cop, you have access to the Role Inspection Night Action. Role Inspection will reveal a target's role and any role modifiers. Vanillas and Goons will inspect as Vanilla. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    Game Thread: eger



    Mafia Roleblocker:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Mafia Roleblocker. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch. Your teammates are:

    Mafia Team

    AUTO (Mafia Role Cop)
    Captain Li Shang (Mafia Jailkeeper)
    John Travolta (Mafia Roleblocker)
    Thingyman* (Mafia Goon + (Ninja))
    True Champion (Mafia Goon + (x1 Bulletproof Vest))

    Mafia Chat: eger Mafia Chat

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Roleblocker

    As Mafia Roleblocker, you have access to the Roleblocking Night Action. Roleblocking another player prevents them from being able to successfully use any Night Action that they might have that night. You will not learn whether your target had a Night Action. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: eger


    Town Alignment Cop
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for Tesssssssssst

    You are Town Alignment Cop. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Alignment Cop

    As Town Alignment Cop, you have access to the Alignment Inspection Night Action. Alignment Inspection will reveal a target's alignment. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the un-Inspected living players.

    Game Thread: Tesssssssssst


    Town Bodyguard:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for rrhth

    You are Town Bodyguard. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Bodyguard

    As Town Bodyguard, you have access to the Guarding Night Action. Guarding another player will cause you to die instead if that player is targeted by a kill on the same night. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: rrhth


    Town Doctor:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for rrhth

    You are Town Doctor. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Doctor

    As Town Doctor, you have access to the Protection Night Action. Protection will protect your target from being killed. You will not learn whether you successfully protected someone. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: rrhth


    Town Jailkeeper:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for Tesssssssssst

    You are Town Jailkeeper. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Jailkeeper

    As Town Jailkeeper, you have access to the Jailing Night Action. Jailing another player will both protect that player from being killed as well as prevent that player from being able to successfully use their Night Action that night. You will not learn whether your target was successfully protected from any kills, nor will you learn whether your target had a Night Action. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: Tesssssssssst


    Town Mason:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Town Mason. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Mason

    As Town Mason, you know the alignment of at least one other Town player, your Mason partner. You have access to a private thread where you can talk to the other Town Masons in your group. You do not know if there are other groups.

    Mason Team

    DreamWorks Animation
    Jiminy Cricket

    Mason Chat: eger Mason Chat

    Game Thread: eger


    Town Odd Night Alignment Cop:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for rrhth

    You are Town Alignment Cop + (Odd Night). You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Alignment Cop

    As Town Alignment Cop, you have access to the Alignment Inspection Night Action. Alignment Inspection will reveal a target's alignment. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the un-Inspected living players.

    Odd Night

    The Odd Night modifier limits you to only submit Night actions on Odd numbered Nights.

    Game Thread: rrhth


    Town Tracker:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Town Tracker. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Tracker

    As Town Tracker, you have access to the Tracking Night Action. Tracking another player informs you who that player used a Night Action on that night, if any. You will not learn what type of Night Action your target has. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: eger


    Town Vigilante:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for eger

    You are Town Vigilante. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Vigilante

    As Town Vigilante, you have access to the Killing Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Game Thread: eger


    Vanilla Town:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host
    Role PM for rrhth

    You are Vanilla Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Game Thread: rrhth




    What is the mafia championship?
    The Mafia Championship is an annual online tournament series that pits representatives from various mafia communities against each other as they compete to determine the internet's greatest forum mafia player. The representatives are officially and democratically chosen to be "Champions" by their respective communities. Read more about the history of this series here.

    What's the format for season 3?
    ? 136 different communities are participating.
    ? 8 Qualifying Games will be played with 17 players each.
    ? 2 players advance to the Finale Game from each game based on post-game votes.
    ? 1 Wildcard Game will be played (Wildcards are decided by a jury consisting of former finalists), determining the 17th and final spot in the Finale. Runner-ups in this game will be first in line to replace any finalists who may have to drop out.
    ? If a replacement is required during a Qualifying game, I will first ask any alternate offered by the home community of the player needing to be replaced. If there is no viable alternate, an alternate will instead be found from one of the larger communities.

    Which communities are participating?

    # Community Representative
    1 17th Shard Haelbarde
    2 ARS Technica 7-Zark-7
    3 Art of Problem Solving fdas
    4 Bay 12 Forums Teneb (replaced by notquitethere)
    5 BigFooty SM1
    6 BisaBoard Pikachamp
    7 BoardGameGeek Royal Ape
    8 Bodybuilding Penz0rman
    9 Bulbagarden Zexy
    10 Calgarypuck Forums GGG
    11 Canucks Community Beluga Whale
    12 Chocolate Pi phantomEclipse
    13 Chucklefish Forums Miss Alkane
    14 CivFanatics Kennigit
    15 Comic Fury inky
    16 Comic Vine LimitlessEdge
    17 Cracked Phighter
    18 DailyMafia Stork
    19 Dark Lord Potter Newcomb
    20 Debate.org XLAV
    21 Dominion Strategy silver
    22 Dragonmount BFG
    23 DuelistGroundz Malcolm
    24 EA Forums - The Simpsons: Tapped Out wilki1999
    25 Elements Linkcat
    26 EntAsia SpankGangsta
    27 Everybody Edits Bimps
    28 Fantasy Strike PrimeIntellect
    29 Feed the Beast VikeStep
    30 Fever Clan Agent Of Zion
    31 Fifth Avenue Panther
    32 Flash Flash Revolution The Sun Fan
    33 Flight Rising Stanari
    34 Football Forums Joga bonito
    35 Forums of Loathing thirdmango
    36 Further Entertainment wikey
    37 GameFAQs My Immortal
    38 Gay Teen Forum Cobalt
    39 Giant in the Playground Legato Endless
    40 GOG yogsloth
    41 Grand Prix Racing Online Jeremy Davis
    42 Gtx0 Ghowilo
    43 Hattrick.org (American) tbane5
    44 Hattrick.org (Danish) Eggers
    45 Hattrick.org (Dutch) wvw-jelte
    46 Hattrick.org (Swedish) Christian
    47 HeroClix Realms Jackofhearts2005
    48 Heroes onLine padden
    49 HeroScapers Marrowick
    50 Hypixel Danger100ish
    51 IGN jpmegami
    52 InsideMDSports romanov
    53 Irish Poker Boards CHDog
    54 Jesus Toast Mafia Augustus
    55 JetNation Leelou
    56 Juventuz Bezzy
    57 Kaskus tmofer.mashiro
    58 Lupus in Tabula Online Mist
    59 Mach Entertainment Easy
    60 Mafia Universe Sunbae
    61 MafiaLandia SilverKeith
    62 MafiaManiac Dr.SaaB
    63 Malazan Empire Messremb (replaced by Khellendros)
    64 Manga Helpers James Rye
    65 marksforxcellence DaPanch
    66 MensTennisForums Arsenalex
    67 Metal Gear Solid Forums Max Payne
    68 MMO Champion Uggorthaholy
    69 Mord in Palermo korenchkin
    70 MTG Salvation Azrael
    71 MyAnimeList Jackrito
    72 MyMedia-Forum Cmdr Spock
    73 NADotA faZ
    74 Naruto Forums Marco
    75 NeoGAF Sorian
    76 Neoseeker Kuhn
    77 NintendoPlus JohnnyK
    78 No Goblins Allowed KingofDominaria
    79 NovoCiv Beck
    80 Octopus Overlords Moliere
    81 Old Gold & Black Forums AnonymousDeac
    82 One Piece Bay Nimbus
    83 OneHallyu Kami
    84 Oro Jackson SirDantetheFancy
    85 Paradox Interactive Forums madchemist
    86 Personality Cafe Dyslexicon
    87 Pie and Bovril MarkoRaj
    88 PilkarskieForum Klopp
    89 Play Diplomacy UpsideDownChuck
    90 Playstuff Apoc
    91 PloungeMafia Bitoku
    92 Pok?Community Collector Elwood
    93 Pok?mon Showdown TheWhoDoctor
    94 PokerNet NotACop
    95 Previously.TV SVNBob
    96 Rate Your Music Sloonei
    97 readmore Show
    98 Realms Beyond Jowy
    99 SC2 Mafia Yayap
    100 Serenes Forest Magnificence Incarnate
    101 Smashboards Gorf
    102 Smogon Forums Da Letter El
    103 Something Awful Khris Kruel
    104 Spookymilk spookymilk
    105 Stickpage Azure
    106 Student Doctor Network dyachei
    107 Super Mafia All-Stars Jan
    108 Super Mario Bros X Zeldamaster12 (replaced by Pseudo-dino)
    109 Survival of the Fittest Flare
    110 TaleWorlds Xardob
    111 Team Liquid Damdred
    112 The Bell Tree Forums Minties
    113 The Escapist Secondhand Revenant
    114 The Giraffe Boards Colby11
    115 The Millennium Forums Cormag
    116 The Org GeneralHankerchief
    117 The Syndicate Golden
    118 The Temple of Kraden Necare
    119 Town of Salem Mantichora
    120 Two Plus Two benneh
    121 UK Football Forums Spirederman
    122 Ultimate Mafia Lissa
    123 Vendetta Strada Nego
    124 Very Serious Work Related Site Iamnobody
    125 VGCW Official Forum FCD
    126 Walter Football MD4L
    127 Warlight MightySpeck
    128 Wars World News Forums MysteriousLad
    129 webDiplomacy y2kjbk
    130 Werwolf Online Loopy
    131 westeros Whiskeyjack
    132 Wrestling Forum Roy Mustang
    133 xkcd heuristically_alone
    134 Xtratime Yatta
    135 Zelda Dungeon Jamie
    136 Zelda Universe Jaime Lannister


    Note: I have two invites still pending. If you know of a community that should definitely be invited, let me know and I may invite them in case the two pending communities decline the invitation.

    What are the game line-ups and schedules?

    Game 1 - April 25 (36/12 phases, American deadlines)
    Beluga Whale (Canucks Community)
    BFG (Dragonmount)
    Bitoku (PLoungeMafia)
    Easy (Mach Entertainment)
    Haelbarde (17th Shard)
    Iamnobody (Very Serious Work Related Site)
    KingofDominaria (No Goblins Allowed)
    Lissa (Ultimate Mafia)
    Mantichora (Town of Salem Forums)
    Marco (Naruto Forums)
    Messremb (Malazan Empire)
    Miss Alkane (Chucklefish Forums)
    Necare (The Temple of Kraden)
    Prime Intellect (Fantasy Strike)
    Teneb (Bay 12 Games Forums)
    VikeStep (Feed the Beast)
    XLAV (Debate.org)

    Game 2 - May 2 (36/12 phases, European deadlines)
    CHDog (Irish Poker Boards)
    Christian (Swedish Hattrick.org community)
    Cormag (The Millennium Forums)
    Damdred (Team Liquid)
    Dyslexicon (Personality Caf?)
    Jan (Super Mafia All-Stars)
    Jeremy Davis (Grand Prix Racing Online)
    Joga bonito (Football Forums)
    Klopp (PilkarskieForum)
    LimitlessEdge (Comic Vine)
    NotACop (PokerNet)
    phantomEclipse (Chocolate Pi)
    Pikachamp (BisaBoard)
    silver (Dominion Strategy)
    wikey (Further Entertainment)
    Yatta (Xtratime)
    Yayap (SC2 Mafia)

    Game 3 - May 9 (72/24 phases, American deadlines)
    Agent Of Zion (Fever Clan)
    Cmdr Spock (MyMedia-Forum)
    Da Letter El (Smogon Forums)
    Da Panch (marksforxcellence)
    Danger100ish (Hypixel)
    Dr.SaaB (MafiaManiac)
    dyachei (Student Doctor Network)
    Magnificent Incarnate (Serenes Forest)
    Marrowick (HeroScapers)
    MD4L (Walter Football)
    Minties (The Bell Tree Forums)
    Secondhand Revenant (The Escapist)
    SirDantetheFancy (Oro Jackson)
    SM (BigFooty)
    TheWhoDoctor (Pok?mon Showdown)
    UpsideDownChuck (Play Diplomacy)
    Zeldamaster12 (Super Mario Bros X)

    Game 4 - May 16 (36/12 phases, American deadlines)
    benneh (Two Plus Two)
    Bimps (Everybody Edits)
    Golden (The Syndicate)
    inky (Comic Fury)
    Jackrito (MyAnimeList)
    Jamie (Zelda Dungeon)
    JohnnyK (NintendoPlus)
    Jowy (Realms Beyond)
    Kami (OneHallyu)
    Phighter (Cracked)
    romanov (InsideMDSports)
    SpankGangsta (STaeyongD!)
    spookymilk (Spookymilk)
    Thirdmango (Forums of Loathing)
    Whiskeyjack (GoT Mafia Discussion Board)
    y2kjbk (webDiplomacy)
    Zexy (Bulbagarden)

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    OPEN/RESERVED SPOT

    Game 6 - June 6 (36/12 phases, American deadlines)
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    Game 7 - June 6 (72/24 phases, American deadlines)
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    How do I spectate these games?

    If you wish to actively spectate and show support for your representative, then there are two ways of doing this.

    1) There will be a private spectator thread on the site for each game that you may request access to. Simply register on the site and PM the user "Thingyman", and you will be added. Feel free to spectate games that your representative isn't in as well. These threads are published after the game completes.

    2) We have a spectator chat on Skype, with currently more than 180 people in it. It's very active and fun, I highly suggest you join it if you have Skype. Just add "thingyman".

    None of these two chats/threads will be spoiled!



    On Mafia Universe, we have many custom features that makes the experience of playing mafia smoother. We have even updated the ModBot in anticipation for this season, making it possible to run these games via the use of a completely automated ModBot.

    Read more about how to use the MU features here:
    VOTING BBCODES
    Our forum votes for someone by using the vote tags: [V]Thingyman[/V]. Preview:

    ##Vote Thingyman

    Make sure that you spell out the full, correct name. Abbreviations or misspelled names will not be registered by the Modbot.

    To unvote, use the tags: [UNV][/UNV] . When unvoting you do not need to enter the name of the person that you are unvoting. Preview:

    ##Unvote

    VOTING BUTTONS
    You can quickly vote for someone by clicking on the box with a checkmark icon, which will bring up an alphabetized dropdown containing the names of living players:



    This will insert [V][/V] tags with the name of the player you selected in the dropdown, perfect every time.

    Click the empty checkbox button to insert [UNV][/UNV].

    SUBMITTING NIGHT ACTIONS
    If you are mafia or a cop, you need to submit an action each night.

    Simply do this by scrolling to the bottom of the game thread. Here you will find a night action form like this:



    Click the dropdown and select the player whom you wish to use your night action on. You can change it as many times as you wish before the deadline expires.


    CALLING UP A VOTECOUNT
    Votecounts will appear automatically at various intervals, but you can also call up votecounts yourself by following these steps:

    First, you need to apply to join "Mafia Game Hosts" under Permission Groups.

    Second, once your request has been approved, you will be able to call up votecounts by simply pushing the "Post Votecount" button in the top right corner of any game thread that you'd like an updated votecount for.




    ISOLATING A PLAYER?S POSTS
    If you wish to read a player?s posts in isolation, simply click on ?ISO? in the top right corner of one of that player?s posts in the relevant thread as illustrated here:



    Alternatively, you can access a player?s posts in isolation by clicking on the number next to ?Replies:? in the forum lobby.




    Doing so will pull up a window listing the post counts for everyone who has posted in that thread. You access someone?s posts in isolation by simply clicking on the number next to ?Posts:? for that person.




    The ISO view itself has Quote and Multi-Quote buttons inside it, which will make it very easy to quickly quote a lot of a player's posts for analysis or commentary:




    MULTI-QUOTING WHILE THREAD IS LOCKED

    Note that you can multi-quote posts from even locked game threads. This is useful for when you wish to reread the game and do work during night phases.

    After quoting the relevant posts, you simply open a different, opened thread and press "Go Advanced". Then add the quotes to your post by clicking the prompt below the post area as shown here:




    Now, of course you can't post your work in the game thread while the thread is locked, but you can copy paste and save your work to a local file or the cloud and have it ready to post the very next day phase (if you're still alive, that is).

    BOOKMARKS
    Whenever you open a game thread, you are able to bookmark posts. This is for many players an important tool for keeping track of and remembering vital pieces of information, reads, claims etc.

    Also, note that these bookmarks are saved to your user account, meaning that it eliminates the trouble associated with keeping notes between different computers/devices.

    If you want to bookmark a post, you simply scroll to the post that you want to bookmark and press "Set Bookmark" as shown here:



    This will call up 5 different colored icons (Blue, Red, Yellow, Green, and Black) on the right side of the post in question. You can click any of these icons, which will then prompt you to include a note for the post.

    If you don't want to include a note, you don't have to - just leave it blank. The color coding in itself can be a valuable tool. Maybe you want to use Red bookmarks for posts that you find suspicious, Green bookmarks for posts that you find townie, Black bookmarks for posts containing claims, or whatever system you can think of that will be helpful to you.



    Once this is done, you have now successfully bookmarked a post with a certain color and maybe even a note. If you wish to remove the bookmark again, click on "Unset Bookmark".

    How do I access bookmarks?

    There are two ways to access your bookmarks.

    1) Inside a game thread, you can access the bookmarks for that specific game by simply clicking on "Access Bookmarks" on any post as shown here:



    This will bring you to a separate page that is automatically filtered to only show bookmarks from the game thread that you accessed the page from.

    2) You can also access your bookmarks by going to Features in the site's top menu:



    This will bring you to a page where no bookmarks are shown by default. However, you have several filtering options.

    You can filter by Game, by Player and by Color - and all of them at once if you so wish.

    Here's an example of filtering by only red bookmarks in one specific game:



    If you want to be taken directly to one of your bookmarked posts, you just click the post number.

    How do I quote bookmarks?

    You can also multi-quote bookmarked posts by clicking the little "+" button seen above on the far right side of each bookmark.

    Once you have multi-quoted all the bookmarked posts that you want to quote, you will then have to go to the game thread in which you wish to quote the bookmarked posts.

    Here you have two ways of quoting the posts.

    1) Click on "Reply With Quote" on another post as shown here:



    You will then probably want to delete the last post quoted in the reply box, but otherwise you should be good to go.

    2) Or you can do the more smooth option and click the "Reply To Thread" button at the top and bottom of the game thread - as shown here:



    By doing this you will open up a reply box containing only your multi-quoted bookmarked posts.
    Last edited by Thingyman; May 12th, 2016 at 09:52 AM.

  2. ISO #2
    vast tonal gap Lissa's Avatar Moderator
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    Instructions to fit in, have everybody like you, and always be happy:
    • Only post/talk about the game in this thread. Don't PM other players, unless your role PM allows this. Also, don't post anything about the game in other threads or on other forums.
    • Don't try to use the form of your role PM. So a screenshot of your role PM would be cheating.
    • When the thread is open and the Mafia Host has announced the start of the day phase you can post in it. But only as long as you are a live player. No deadposting, please.
    • Breadcrumbing is allowed. Secret codes requiring keys or anything resembling that is NOT allowed.
    • This is a game of lying. Players are expected to lie. No statement or promise a player makes within the game has any force outside the game. As an example, a bet offered in a game is not something you can collect if you win.
    • If we believe you to bending the rules intentionally in a way that clearly goes against the spirit of the rules and the game, then that would also be grounds for modkill. Do not try to get fancy or angly with the rules, please. An example would include trying to blame the ModBot for a supposed error in order to make a claim of yours more believable.
    • If you have any questions about rules, send a PM to this account. I'd be happy to help. You should not be asking the Game Host questions in the thread and neither should you ever refer to private communications with the mod.
    • If you should ever require a sub, PM the mod and stop posting in the thread.
    • No hydra'ing / multi-accounting is allowed. Do not share your account with anyone else.
    • Treat your fellow players with respect. Hostility will not be tolerated.


    I will repeat this particular rule once more in big letters to make sure you understand:

    DO NOT EVER REFERENCE THIS GAME OUTSIDE OF THIS GAME THREAD. I.E. YOU SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS GAME WHATSOEVER ON YOUR HOME SITE. IF PEOPLE ASK YOU QUESTIONS, TELL THEM YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE GAME AND LINK THEM TO THIS THREAD.

    We expect participation, and if you do not seem to be participating, for example, if you post less than 10 times per day phase, it is possible that we will consider subbing you out of the game. If you don't post at all, a sub will be found ASAP, at our discretion.

    Please do not put me in a tough situation. It has happened several times in the past seasons that people have made comments about the game that could potentially indicate their alignment. Even saying "the game is a lot of fun" or "man, I hate this" is way, way, way, way inappropriate!

    PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING RELATING TO SUBS. Whether that be why someone subbed out or who might sub in, don't discuss it at all. If you are choosing to sub out, do not post about it in the thread. The only discussion of substitution should happen between the relevant player and the hosts, never in the thread,


    Refer to this post for the complete, standard ruleset for mafia games.
    Last edited by Lissa; May 11th, 2016 at 07:17 PM.

  3. ISO #3
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    THE CHAMPIONS


    1) Agent Of Zion



    REPRESENTING: Fever Clan

    NATIONALITY: I am from the USA currently living in Japan (and currently floating around on the high seas)

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): Started playing mafia in 2009

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: I've played on MafiaScum, EpicMafia, Town of Salem, and the physical Ultimate Werewolf. And Secret Hitler if that counts.

    Bio:

    I shamelessly stole roles, setups, tips and tricks from everywhere I could to get a mafia playerbase going on FeverClan.com. Somehow I have all of them convinced I am a much better player than I really am.

    As far as anything else is concerned, I'm a much better town than I am scum, but one Mafia win I am most proud of was telling the entire town that I was mafia at the start of day one and somehow managing to convince them to follow my lead.

    I'm looking forward to living past N1/D1 for a change.





    2) Cmdr Spock



    REPRESENTING: MyMedia-Forum

    NATIONALITY: USA

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA: 2013

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Exclusively at www.losttv-forum.com

    BIO:

    I joined up over at Lost TV Forums in 2008 after having lurked quite a bit checking out the hilarious Previouslies (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Previouslies_on_Lost) . Watching that show was a whole new experience and having a crowd you could talk to about it was mandatory, and I found a good one at LTV. The site is pretty cool, they talk about any shows or media, really, but Lost was the first thing. I'm still pissed about how that ended, but Team Sun, forever! Our forum allows and even encourages its members to explore whatever facet of whatever show or character interests them and explore and discuss to our heart's content, the Lost subforum for shippers was more fun than it had any right being, lol. I highly encourage any Doctor Who fans here to go check out our Jane's episode analysis threads of that show to see one of our best at work. Along with talking about stuff, some of us like to play games; our forum was introduced to Mafia by Fancy Monkey in September of 2013, and I think it's safe to say that we took to the game like wireheads. I'm proud to say I've played in every game we've had, and while I'm hardly the most formidable player our forum has on hand , (I was just the one with time available), I have been forged by playing with and against some serious fiends for quite some time now. I'm glad for the chance to see how well my Mafia skills will translate to a larger player population. Good Luck!





    3) Da Letter El



    REPRESENTING: Smogon Forums

    NATIONALITY: American

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2008

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Smogon, EpicMafia, Mafiascum, Dailymafia, Osu, Altitude, Town of Salem, Pokemon Online

    BIO:

    The legendary iDLE in the flesh

    Here is what some of my compadres have to say about me:

    [19:43] <UncleSam> btw i am v impressed
    [19:43] <UncleSam> with how well youve managed to get me to forget that you backstabbed me

    [20:36] <Yeti> let me think past the idler scrub recency bias
    [20:37] <Yeti> a cooperative fellow
    [20:37] <Yeti> never gets into the petty power struggles of unclesam's sort
    [20:37] <Yeti> detailed analyzer
    [20:38] <Yeti> more of a chill player
    [20:38] <Yeti> but still effective

    <daletterel> can you describe me as a mafia player
    <daletterel> i need a bio
    <moi> I've known [dle] for a few years, and giving his homoerotic tendencies, I can say for certain he is the best trickster I've ever meet, capable of deceiving even himself
    <daletterel> perfect

    I primarily play OC games now but played a lot of NOC on epicmafia and a few other sites. I've still never been mislynched as town in a NOC outside of epicmafia so this is the perfect place to make that happen. My top scumread is always the doctor and I am autocleared if the funniest poster dies during the night.





    4) Da Panch



    REPRESENTING: marksforxcellence

    NATIONALITY: Mexican

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2011

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: MFX/ESPNSPORTSIMS

    BIO:

    As the only man on these forums with not one but two mafia catchphrashes. I'll break them both down for you. The first is "PapaSpank" and that means I've got you by the short and curlys. It's a guarantee that not even Donald Trump could bankrupt. The second is a personal motto of mine - "If you come at the king you best not miss" That means if your making me a fall guy, if your trying to attack me, if your trying to ruin my game get ready for a fight. I've got a silver tongue that would make Hans Sprungfeld jealous. It's no oincidence that I am rated one of the best teammates to have in mafia because town, mafia I'm always about serving the greater good. But don't get it twisted. I'm a third rail kind of guy through and through and I much prefer letting the two fight it out and picking off the pieces.

    With all that being said. In the words of Judge Mills Lane and his brother from another mother Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On





    5) Danger100ish



    REPRESENTING: Hypixel

    NATIONALITY: Cuban American

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2015

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Hypixel, Mafiaplace, Zeldauniverse

    BIO:

    I've never actually played mafia, but my friend from minecraft said that this was a huge international tournament, so I thought it might be fun. idk how to play mafia, but i really love anime. I am cool. I am awesome. Minecraft is cool. School is great. Life is good. Something with food. Food is awesome. no hablo ingl?s.
    Above you'll see a combination of my friends' attempts at making bios for me. Hi, I'm Danger, an average dork you'll frequently see doing something so stupid that I'll get daykilled on the first day, and by extension, the lover I'm almost guaranteed to have.
    Carpe Diem ?\_(ツ)_/?





    6) Dr.SaaB



    REPRESENTING: MafiaManiac

    NATIONALITY: Romanian

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): Jan 2014

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: unitedreds.net, mafiamaniac.net

    BIO:

    I'm Dr.Saab and this is my bio.
    Since I'm not very good at talking about myself, I'm gonna let my fellow MafiaManiacs handle my introduction.

    In my early beginnings I was know for my activity ... could fill up a thread like a pro. These days tough I tend to think more & write less.
    yuiop: And of course there's 3 pages already, Saab is in this BTSC.

    Why I try to think more ? Gotta keep those demons & old habits at bay. What can I say, paranoia's a b****.
    Inawordyes: I think sometime you have a tendency to get a little too inside your head. You're very logic-oriented, but you sometimes start to go a little overboard with the logic and cross into the illogical without realizing it, and then pay the price for it later on as people call you out and you don't know what they're talking about.
    But that's why we have tinfoil!


    I respect goodie (aka town) life and I don't back away from controversial subjects. Controversy creates reads, only problem is ... getting the rest of the town to trust your judgement.
    Nana7: Too nice, willing to have d1 no lynch. I remember wondering if you might have been indy wanting to keep everyone alive long enough to win. I did not even consider why baddies killed you when I should have since in hindsight it looks like they didn't like you pushing Dee.

    Well what can I say I'm only human :
    Auramyna: Hey Barc, I'll let you in on a little secret. Feeding Saab's ego is what kills him ... or the other way around. Don't try and understand it, just take my word for it. @Saab - You shouldn't have told me your secret.

    And now let's have a look at my dark side.
    Boquise: If Saab starts twisting everything you say, he's most likely good. It is okay to lynch him in that scenario."
    Me and Boq are gonna have a long talk after the championship.

    In conclusion what can I say ... I'm not the best mafia player but I do try to give it my all. I see this championship as a chance to meet new players from different communities and with different styles. I think this will be a great learning experience for me.

    May the lynching begin !!

    Sincerely,
    Dr.SaaB - Your Local Pill Distributor






    7) dyachei



    REPRESENTING: Student Doctor Network

    Nationality: American

    Started Playing Mafia: Started playing in 2009 (I think. I was playing the live version way back in 1997).

    BIO:

    Dyachei is a smart player who can cut through the riff raff and get to the heart of the matter. She may not roar like a lion, but can catch the prey at night like the owl. It is easy to underestimate her, but in the end, whether wolf or village, is a major part of the winning side. She is also part robot, pirate, and zombie, and that makes her awesome.





    8) Magnificence Incarnate



    REPRESENTING: Serenes Forest

    NATIONALITY: Indian

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): April, 2012

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: SF only

    BIO:

    I'm Prince Marth of Altea, the Hero King and the descendant of Anri! Or...am I actually Lucina?????? I'm strong enough to kill dragons like Medeus and Grima with my legendary sword, The Falchion, but I'm not strong enough to take on multiple enemies at a time. And I get OHKO'd very easily! Not really good at fencing, you know? My fashion sense includes wearing a shirt and a scarf but being pantless. I don't wear shorts either. Also I think tiaras are pretty and love wearing them!

    So I'm into mafia just for kicks. I mean, who even tries playing it competitively? All you'll get yourself into if you're all about being the best, is a cycle of depression! You must be a masochist to take it seriously! If you ask me, the human race must always strive for goodness and love and escape the dark future laid before us!

    I used to be THE TOWN MISLYNCH but I never really figured out why. I was regularly mislynched for my first two years of playing mafia...or maybe the first year. It feels like I was mislynched way too often though,particularly by D2. At one point I even thought that I was destined to be a townie who would forever be lynched in the first two cycles, never making it to MYLO. And I almost always rolled town, too! Would I have had any hope?????

    I really love 'Make it or break it' phases as either alignment. I love playing during MYLO, especially. The game just feels more thrilling at that point.

    But then one day I subbed into a game as town and won at MYLO! Ever since, my fortunes changed, and I became a believer in reshaping one's destiny! I have only been mislynched twice, ever since!

    My play style is generally to make posts about 2-3 paragraphs long. If I have to cover reads on more players then I split it into multiple posts because I care to make my thoughts clear to the other players in the game. I hate wall posts. I hate spam posts too.

    One of my mafia dreams is to roll town and then get myself modkilled out of no where. Especially if this was at MYLO. Oh, and another dream is to roll Town Dayvig and randomly vig a player during the Random Voting Stage, only for that player to flip mafia. Unfortunately I haven't developed the courage to do this, otherwise I'd be kicked out of the community. ;-;

    Speaking of dayvigging, this is my track record- I've misfired every time I've rolled it, and I've flaked for almost the entire game. Then I'd come back at MYLO and everyone would think that I was obviously town!

    Other achievements include:

    1. Being the sole survivor of my first town game. The third party arsonist killed everyone else and got lynched. This happened in a 17p game, with 5 players dying in the last phase.
    2. Being counterclaimed as town by another townie for no reason and getting him lynched at MYLO.
    3. Naming the entire scumteam as town in my first post into the game and then losing it.
    4. Subbing in as town into a game where the town let an SK who fakeclaimed 'Weak Watcher Survivor' live and winning it for the town at MYLO.
    5. Orchestrating a lynch on myself and my buddy(both of us were fools) on days 1 and 2. That win was one of the best ones I've ever had.
    6. Being mislynched after a lyncher randomly claimed a cop guilty on me when I was not their target.
    7. Winning a scum sweep in a mafia game where I was pushing for the lynch of my two buddies who were lovers. I even escaped a lynch myself by claiming hider!
    8. This is one of my dayvig stories. So I mivigged D1 and became so depressed about it that I flaked from the game. Then at MYLO, one of the dead townies told me that I had to vote to end the game. So I just listened to her and the town 'won' the game...but the host was so mad, that he ended the game in Universal Loss.

    9. I'm also the player on SF who has played as part of a hydra the most number of times, that's 5!

    That's it, I guess. I suppose all that's left is for us to clash swords in a game of mafia, now!





    9) Marrowick



    REPRESENTING: HeroScapers

    NATIONALITY: [American]

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): [2012]

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: [Heroscapers.com, Mafiauniverse.net]

    BIO:

    I play Mafia on my main site whenever a game is available. I prefer Role playing Mafia games to simply banter games. I ranked 22 in 32 for best RP/Most fun votes on my home site (this is only players who've played in the last six months). I try to be kind and considerate in all my conversation, carefully considering both my response and the person's post. I am also a christian and do my best to make God's kindness evident in my posts.





    10) MD4L



    REPRESENTING: WalterFootball

    NATIONALITY: USA

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2011

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Walterfootball, VS

    BIO:

    Avid mafia player since 2011. Playing experience with SwAg, Chris, and Cory. Most wins on Walter football until they stopped counting. Team player as town and will do my job. My favorite ability is godfather because it's easier to win with immunities. As scum, objective is developing relationships and team coming together. My favorite ability is JOAT or godfather. Immunity and I have worked wonders. Excited to play.





    11) Minties



    REPRESENTING: The Bell Tree Forums

    NATIONALITY: American

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2014

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: The Bell Tree Forums

    BIO:

    I'm Minties, an American girl living in Australia with the spiders. I'm currently finishing my degree with a major in Zoology and minor in Microbiology. I started playing mafia back in 2014 and have loved it ever since. I've participated in 24 games on my home forum and have won 19 of those. I also love writing games that center around an interesting theme. I won the best run game and tied for most unique set up in our forum's mafia awards. I love the analysis that mafia involves and meta analysis is my favourite thing. I have no preference on roles or alignment because every role helps me learn. My friends back on TBT have given me the nickname Salties because the NaCl levels tend to run pretty high in a game when I'm there. "Let the salt flow through you" - Tom 2k14





    12) Secondhand Revenant



    REPRESENTING: The Escapist

    NATIONALITY: United States

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2015 on The Escapist. 2012 or so offline.

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: The Escapist

    BIO:

    Hi, I'm Secondhand Revenant and I'm fairly decent at not dying for the most part, username aside. Been playing our odd little variant of Mafia over at the Escapist for almost a year now, but have played Werewolf with friends for a few years prior to that. Hoping to have fun with this tournament!





    13) SirDantetheFancy



    REPRESENTING: Oro Jackson

    NATIONALITY: United States of America.

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2006

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Question is too long to answer completely. Settle to say, a lot of places in the upwards of over 100 different communities across the net.

    BIO:

    I am Dante.





    14) SM



    REPRESENTING: BigFooty

    NATIONALITY: Australian

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): Online was 2014, but I've played since I was a kid.

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Bigfooty

    BIO:

    Thanks for having me in this brilliant game. A few things related to the game: I've won several Mafia games as evil where I've kept my entire team alive which I find a great achievement. I've also run numerous games so have a solid grasp of how the game works. Not related to the game: I love all kinds of sport which is why I take part in the games on Bigfooty, love my football and also my Aussie Rules.





    15) TheWhoDoctor



    REPRESENTING: Pok?mon Showdown

    NATIONALITY: American

    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): 2013

    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: Pokemon Showdown, Pokemon Online, Mafia Universe

    BIO:

    Hey all, I'm TheWhoDoctor, abbreviated TWD and pronounced "Twid"

    On my home site, I am notorious for both my play and my hosting.

    I host extremely Bastard Closed Setups, including one in which everyone is Vanilla Townie, and get revealed as Scum if death by lynch, and revealed as Town if death by randomized kill every 7 minutes. Last 2 standing win together.

    As an RTM player, I'm infamous for turbo'ing on Day 1, refusing to change my lynch, and then basing reads Day 2 on how everyone reacts to both my turbo and my flip, and it's become known as Twidbo (Twid + Turbo).

    Thingyman said put something about putting Mafia Accolades so I guess some of my accolades are being Top 10 in our Anonymous Tournament, being the number one player in multiple monthly officials (1 theme hosted twice a day at regular periods for points), and being good enough at Mafia and being human to be a staff member on my home site.

    P.S. 10/10 says I'm going to fail in this Championships and be hated at home, but good luck to my counterparts from Smogon and Serenes Forest. Da Letter El, Marth - It'll be good to play with you both. Come check out RTM with me sometime, I'm far better at that than this.





    16) UpsideDownChuck



    REPRESENTING: PlayDiplomacy

    Nationality: USA

    Started Playing: 2014

    Played on Sites: playdiplomacy (primarily), 2+2 POG, MafiaUniverse

    BIO:

    Began playing Mafia at playdip in November of 2014. While my ability to form accurate reads is still very much a work in progress, I pride myself on making it obvious that I am town (as both alignments) and on bringing maximum effort level to the thread. l like to ask questions and try to understand where people are coming from. Generally I start from the question "Does this make sense from town?" and look for instances where the answer is "No" rather than try to answer the question "Does this make sense for scum?" As scum, I've never been lynched and I never bus so if you are thinking of voting for me, or if I've voted for a wolf at some point, you should probably just clear me. Also, I really hate "derp" clears and am looking forward to the championship series where there will hopefully be none of those.





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    REPRESENTING: Super Mario Bros X

    Nationality: American

    Started playing Mafia: September of 2014

    Have played Mafia on the following sites: SMBX.org and Krazynet

    Bio:

    I'll try to keep this short and sweet. On this forum, I've played since Mafia game 6. I have two or 3 Mafia victories and around 2 Mafia losses (my first game was surprisingly a Mafia victory with me in the Mafia). I've won multiple times as Town, and I've gotten MVP two or three times here. On Krazynet, in which is a forum one of my friends Krazykat invited me to, I have multiple MVP awards and multiple Mafia victories. My favorite role to play would probably be Sheriff, though it depends if I'm Mafia or not. As for my favorite Mafia role, we've came up with multiple different Mafia roles here, so it'd be hard to choose. My favorite would probably be the Voodoo Lady from Nien's games though. I'm pretty sure I have the most posts in the Mafia subforum on this entire forum, so I guess there's some bragging rights there. Not much else to say, but I'm excited to play in this big event. A little nervous since I'm new to the Matrix setup, and I know there's gonna be a lot of really experienced players, but I'm sure I'll be fine.
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    Alive 5/17:
    dyachei (Student Doctor Network) - survived and won d6 - Santana Lopez, mafia 1-shot strongman.
    Minties (The Bell Tree Forums) - endgamed d6 - Mercedes Jones, vanilla town.

    Dead 12/17:
    SM (BigFooty) - modkilled D1 - Blaine Anderson, vanilla town.
    SirDantetheFancy (Oro Jackson) - lynched D1 - Brittany S. Pierce, mafia goon.
    UpsideDownChuck (Play Diplomacy) - killed N1 - Lauren Zizes, vanilla town.
    Magnificent Incarnate (Serenes Forest) - lynched d2 - Artie Abrams, vanilla town.
    Dr.SaaB (MafiaManiac) - killed n2 - Kurt Hummel, vanilla town.
    TheWhoDoctor (Pok?mon Showdown) - killed n2 - Rachel Barry, vanilla town.
    Da Panch (marksforxcellence) - lynched d3 - Finn Hudson, vanilla town.
    Pseudo-dino / Zeldamaster12 (Super Mario Bros X) - killed n3 - Emma Pillsbury, town 2-shot jailkeeper.
    MD4L (Walter Football) - killed n3 - Kitty Wilde, mafia goon.
    Agent Of Zion (Fever Clan) - lynched d4 - Quinn Fabray, mafia 1-shot bulletproof.
    The_Machine_5000 / Danger100ish (Hypixel) - killed n4 - Noah "Puck" Puckerman, town vigilante.
    Secondhand Revenant (The Escapist) - killed n4 - Sam Evans, vanilla town.
    Cmdr Spock (MyMedia-Forum) - lynched d5 - Jesse St. James, vanilla town.
    Da Letter El (Smogon Forums) - killed n5 - Will Schuester, town bodyguard.
    Rickdaily12 (Town of Salem) / Marrowick (HeroScapers) - lynched d6 - Tina Cohen-Chang, vanilla town.
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    *In Sue Sylvester's office*


    I have called you in here today because I have something to tell you, ladies.

    I have never in my life been anything but humble, hard working and fair. My classy elegance has for generations offered this school something beyond a small town personality. One could even say that I have, by my sheer presence, inspired people and lifted their spirits. And I am still so young and beautiful. As Madonna once said, I'm tough, I'm ambitious and if that makes me a $%#!, that's what I am. Pretty sure she stole that line from Sue Sylvester. No, really. I said it first.



    My success with you Cheerios has brought me part of the recognition that I so rightfully deserve, but that was until Will Schuester had an idea that would ravage the moral of the students, the school itself, town, and the entire country! He must be stopped!




    And that's where you come in, my little dark angels. You know, you remind me of myself somewhat. Ruthless, dangerously beautiful, athletic and with no conscience to speak of. That is why I have chosen you for my mission.



    Now, as you know, Mr. Shuester's little club of whiny degenerates have seriously injured this school. They took down the football team, and now they are threatening the Cheerios as well. I have seen myself become forced to take part in the inner workings of the Glee club, and as you may understand, I cannot openly defy this cesspool of a club in which singing seems to be the solution to everything in life. No, I need you to infiltrate the Glee club, and destroy them from within! Be aware though, should you get caught, I'll have nothing to do with you.

    Avoid suspicion, take them out, one by one, until the Glee club is no more. I wanna pit these kids against one another, am I clear?



    Oh, you think this is hard? I'm living with Hepatitis, *that's* hard! Now get to it!

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    @Agent Of Zion
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    @Da Letter El
    @DaPanch
    @Danger100ish
    @Dr.SaaB
    @dyachei
    @Magnificence Incarnate
    @Marrowick
    @MD4L
    @Minties
    @Secondhand Revenant
    @SirDantetheFancy
    @SM1
    @TheWhoDoctor
    @UpsideDownChuck
    @Zeldamaster12

    Ignore the first roles you received. The setup and distribution of roles have been reranded due to an error with the automatic creation of private threads.

    Apologies.

    Original rand:

    Setup D

    Agent Of Zion (Vanilla Town)
    Cmdr Spock (Vanilla Town)
    Da Letter El (Town Mason {Group: A})
    DaPanch (Vanilla Town)
    dyachei (Vanilla Town)
    Magnificence Incarnate (Vanilla Town)
    Marrowick (Vanilla Town)
    MD4L (Vanilla Town)
    Secondhand Revenant (Vanilla Town)
    SirDantetheFancy (Town Tracker)
    TheWhoDoctor (Vanilla Town)
    UpsideDownChuck (Town Bodyguard)
    Zeldamaster12 (Town Mason {Group: A})

    Danger100ish (Mafia Goon + (Ninja))
    Dr.SaaB (Mafia Goon + (x1 Strongman))
    Minties (Mafia Goon)
    SM1 (Mafia Goon)
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    Glee: Game Start!

    This is an automated game of Mafia.

    Setup - 17 Players

    See Matrix12 setup
    • Majority is not in effect for Day 1 (will be in effect on later days).
    • Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
    • Mafia win when they achieve Parity at any time.
    • No Lynching is enabled. Vote for No Lynch to forgo a lynch that Day.
    • Mafia kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
    • Mafia may communicate at any time.
    • If the lynch vote ends in a tie, then a player will be lynched at random from among the tied players.

    Phase Lengths

    Days are 3 days in length. Nights are 1 days in length.

    Players

    @Agent Of Zion
    @Cmdr Spock
    @Da Letter El
    @DaPanch
    @Danger100ish
    @Dr.SaaB
    @MD4L
    @Magnificence Incarnate
    @Marrowick
    @Minties
    @SM1
    @Secondhand Revenant
    @SirDantetheFancy
    @TheWhoDoctor
    @UpsideDownChuck
    @Zeldamaster12
    @dyachei

    Host Note

    This is a reminder that we needed to rerand the game. Please refer to the most recent role PM that you received to find out your role.
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    Glee Day 1 Start

    Day 1 has begun.

    Day 1 ends at 8:00 PM EDT on Thursday, May 12th, 2016. There are 1463097660000 remaining.

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    Woo! I've been excited for this. So usually I would suggest starting off with an innocent or guilty investigation check from everyone, but since there is a lack of millers or investigation altering roles, that would be clearly pointless here lol. Anyone have any favorite way of kicking off some awkward day one ice breakers?

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    There's an ongoing debate in our mafia community about making and leaving lists, some feel it's too easily manipulated by the mob, lets them know what we suspect without giving us anything, while others like using it as a tool to provoke a response, or cover for anyone leaving clues. How do you feel about lists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmdr Spock (#10)
    There's an ongoing debate in our mafia community about making and leaving lists, some feel it's too easily manipulated by the mob, lets them know what we suspect without giving us anything, while others like using it as a tool to provoke a response, or cover for anyone leaving clues. How do you feel about lists?
    I'm actually a huge fan of read lists. As the game progresses they become pretty useful and they're a way to engage the whole thread and not allow people to lurk their way tho the game. Obviously we don't have anything to read right now since the game just started, but since discussion topics are usually a shortage in my experience I think they're fantastic after a couple of phases pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmdr Spock (#10)
    There's an ongoing debate in our mafia community about making and leaving lists, some feel it's too easily manipulated by the mob, lets them know what we suspect without giving us anything, while others like using it as a tool to provoke a response, or cover for anyone leaving clues. How do you feel about lists?
    we don't tend to do this in my home forum. I need to think about it some more.

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    I scumread list posters because they are making me waste time reading 16 reads I probably don't give a sheet of music about instead of giving me reasons to have reads that I do care about: mine.

    I also scumread dirty bass tarts who steal spots from Paperblade

    ##Vote Magnificence Incarnate

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#12)
    we don't tend to do this in my home forum. I need to think about it some more.
    What do you usually do to open games at your forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#12)
    we don't tend to do this in my home forum. I need to think about it some more.
    What do you usually do to open games at your forum?
    random lynch votes to try and get people talking. I didn't say it was the best method.

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    On my forum we have a night phase first, since that's the entire reason we're lynching people! Mysterious deaths in the night. :P

    At this stage we're a big happy village with no clues to go off, so not entirely sure who to vote for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#15)
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#12)
    we don't tend to do this in my home forum. I need to think about it some more.
    What do you usually do to open games at your forum?
    random lynch votes to try and get people talking. I didn't say it was the best method.

    To be fair day 1 is pretty random, maybe after everyone starts posting we'll draw names out of a hat lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#16)
    On my forum we have a night phase first, since that's the entire reason we're lynching people! Mysterious deaths in the night. :P

    At this stage we're a big happy village with no clues to go off, so not entirely sure who to vote for.
    Yeah I was thinking about a no lynch Day 1 but let's look at some math to see if we should skip Day 1 lynch or not. Because it's a worth while idea.

    If we start the game with 17 players we know 4 of which must be scum, then it's 13 to 4.

    So 13 towns alive start.
    12 - Mislynch Day 1
    11 - Mafia kill
    10 - Mislynch Day 2
    09 - Mafia kill
    08 - Mislynch Day 3
    07 - Mafia kill
    06 - Mislynch Day 4
    05 - Mafia kill
    04 - Mislynch Day 5 - Day 5 would be our Lynch or Lose

    We add one and we still don't gain a phase unless we get lucky and the Mafia fail a kill. Which we don't know is possible or not yet. Bummer. The math says the information is worth more than no lynch Day 1. Can't argue with math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#16)
    On my forum we have a night phase first, since that's the entire reason we're lynching people! Mysterious deaths in the night. :P

    At this stage we're a big happy village with no clues to go off, so not entirely sure who to vote for.
    At this point without knowing anyone, the mafia kill is probably not going to be very telling anyways

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    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#18)
    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#16)
    On my forum we have a night phase first, since that's the entire reason we're lynching people! Mysterious deaths in the night. :P

    At this stage we're a big happy village with no clues to go off, so not entirely sure who to vote for.
    Yeah I was thinking about a no lynch Day 1 but let's look at some math to see if we should skip Day 1 lynch or not. Because it's a worth while idea.

    If we start the game with 17 players we know 4 of which must be scum, then it's 13 to 4.

    So 13 towns alive start.
    12 - Mislynch Day 1
    11 - Mafia kill
    10 - Mislynch Day 2
    09 - Mafia kill
    08 - Mislynch Day 3
    07 - Mafia kill
    06 - Mislynch Day 4
    05 - Mafia kill
    04 - Mislynch Day 5 - Day 5 would be our Lynch or Lose

    We add one and we still don't gain a phase unless we get lucky and the Mafia fail a kill. Which we don't know is possible or not yet. Bummer. The math says the information is worth more than no lynch Day 1. Can't argue with math.
    The only use I can think of is a bit of a buffer if anyone is likely to find information. Personally I know no one so I don't want to count on the effectiveness of someone making us a more informed mob in exchange for an extra kill for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#20)
    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.
    Eh but the mafia can just all claim to be vanilla townies. Those are abundant enough they can hide can't they? (Will do the math later if no one else does but on phone atm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#20)
    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.
    Eh but the mafia can just all claim to be vanilla townies. Those are abundant enough they can hide can't they? (Will do the math later if no one else does but on phone atm)
    That's not the point... Let's say we have a Cop but no doctor, and he dies during night 4. We can go back and clear his results from nights 1/2/3, can't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#23)
    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#20)
    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.
    Eh but the mafia can just all claim to be vanilla townies. Those are abundant enough they can hide can't they? (Will do the math later if no one else does but on phone atm)
    That's not the point... Let's say we have a Cop but no doctor, and he dies during night 4. We can go back and clear his results from nights 1/2/3, can't we?
    But to prevent cop from dying immediately, EVERYONE claims a result, albeit a faked townie one, so that real cop can post inspects while staying hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#20)
    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.
    Eh but the mafia can just all claim to be vanilla townies. Those are abundant enough they can hide can't they? (Will do the math later if no one else does but on phone atm)
    Each line of the matrix contains 6 roles. Then 2 mafia roles are added and everyone else becomes a vanilla townie.

    The matrix roles contain at least 1 vanilla townie if not 2.

    Assuming lowest number of vanilla townies...of 17 players, 7 have roles. That leaves 10 vanilla townies at minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#23)
    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#20)
    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.
    Eh but the mafia can just all claim to be vanilla townies. Those are abundant enough they can hide can't they? (Will do the math later if no one else does but on phone atm)
    That's not the point... Let's say we have a Cop but no doctor, and he dies during night 4. We can go back and clear his results from nights 1/2/3, can't we?
    Fair but we need to give him time for results or they kill him right away

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#23)
    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#20)
    What if we played the hypo game with every role?

    Everyone claims the following:

    "I'm Jailkeeper and used my action on XYZ.
    I'm Cop and got XYZ result on ABC.
    I'm Doctor and targeted BCD." and so on and so forth for each power role, so that when the actual roles die, we know what's been going on. Just a thought, but meh.
    Eh but the mafia can just all claim to be vanilla townies. Those are abundant enough they can hide can't they? (Will do the math later if no one else does but on phone atm)
    That's not the point... Let's say we have a Cop but no doctor, and he dies during night 4. We can go back and clear his results from nights 1/2/3, can't we?
    But to prevent cop from dying immediately, EVERYONE claims a result, albeit a faked townie one, so that real cop can post inspects while staying hidden.

    Ooh I see, a slow strategy... hmm will have to think on it more

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    Actually that is a super neat idea. Here's the problem tho. How do we even know we have a cop yet? There's a few setups that don't have a cop but other investigation types that wouldn't benefit from this idea. But I like the principle of that idea a lot to prevent losing night action information due to random Mafia luck. Let's keep thinking of Day 1 ice breakers and see if we can come up with a way to work pretend night claims to conceal our real ones! Plus we'll have something to do lol.

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    I also don't want to use just everyone picking random roles because then the power roles have to claim their actions which could lead to the Mafia pulling them out of the guesses and exposing them. But if we blanket claimed one role it would be pretty hard for the Mafia to pull them tho. Then as long as the power roles are truthful in their targets... We would still have the information once they flipped and we knew their role for sure. Yeah that might work.

    Thoughts on having everyone blanket claim as cop and name their targets in the future day phases? This will completely hide the identity of our prs but give their target list for us to use.

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    I'm generally suspicious of anyone wanting people to reveal roles this early. It usually indicates mafia wanting to get people claiming roles so they have some idea of who to line up at night. At this stage there's enough townies for those with important good roles to stay hidden and actually do some good for the town.

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    I get what you're saying - everyone claims cop and gives a target/result, but if someone flips another PR we still have their targets. I like this plan.

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    ##Vote SM1

    Sorry, but it seems like you didn't read the entirety of the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#32)
    ##Vote SM1

    Sorry, but it seems like you didn't read the entirety of the plan.
    "Generally" suspicious. I was alerting the town to the risks involved with role reveals.

    The plan that we all claim cop and list suspects so that the real cop can hide is an interesting idea though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#30)
    I'm generally suspicious of anyone wanting people to reveal roles this early. It usually indicates mafia wanting to get people claiming roles so they have some idea of who to line up at night. At this stage there's enough townies for those with important good roles to stay hidden and actually do some good for the town.
    I agree. Asking for people to come out and announce their role is pretty scummy. But the idea isn't for people to come out and claim their role. It was for everyone in the thread to fake claim a role and their targets from the night before. Obviously we don't have any targets yet as we started day, but we're discussing a way to have our power roles NOT actually claim but still give us their targets by making everyone blanket claim a fake role and their targets. That way the real prs can give us a history of their real targets without exposing their role.

    My suggestion was to alter the idea slightly by making it everyone claims a single agreed on role, like cop for example. And then just say a target. Our PRs will be able to give their real target, and it will be masked in an identical list of claims. So the scum shouldn't be able to gain anything, we will only know what is real AFTER the Pr has died. It's like a safety net so we don't lose night information from a lucky Mafia kill.

    Does this make sense why the idea isn't to reveal roles but to hide them better?

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    It doesn't work unless most or all participate, though. I'd prefer to get everyone on board before doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWhoDoctor (#31)
    I get what you're saying - everyone claims cop and gives a target/result, but if someone flips another PR we still have their targets. I like this plan.
    I can see my typical style of responding to the large majority of posts is going to be problematic this game. So many ninja posts

  37. ISO #37
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#35)
    It doesn't work unless most or all participate, though. I'd prefer to get everyone on board before doing that.
    I agree. I want to have a general majority on board with us. But for people who deny the plan since it appears pretty harmful to scum they will need to come up with a counter point for the suggestion rather than just I don't like it.

    Maybe someone could start a vote count, in favor of "Operation Wall of Fake Claim" or not and we will just have a little vote ourselves outside of the lynch vote.

    More discussion about it first tho! More ideas the better! Discussion and talking is the town's best ally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#34)
    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#30)
    I'm generally suspicious of anyone wanting people to reveal roles this early. It usually indicates mafia wanting to get people claiming roles so they have some idea of who to line up at night. At this stage there's enough townies for those with important good roles to stay hidden and actually do some good for the town.
    I agree. Asking for people to come out and announce their role is pretty scummy. But the idea isn't for people to come out and claim their role. It was for everyone in the thread to fake claim a role and their targets from the night before. Obviously we don't have any targets yet as we started day, but we're discussing a way to have our power roles NOT actually claim but still give us their targets by making everyone blanket claim a fake role and their targets. That way the real prs can give us a history of their real targets without exposing their role.

    My suggestion was to alter the idea slightly by making it everyone claims a single agreed on role, like cop for example. And then just say a target. Our PRs will be able to give their real target, and it will be masked in an identical list of claims. So the scum shouldn't be able to gain anything, we will only know what is real AFTER the Pr has died. It's like a safety net so we don't lose night information from a lucky Mafia kill.

    Does this make sense why the idea isn't to reveal roles but to hide them better?
    Issue though is we don't even know what roles we've been given in this playset, so it's hard to pinpoint a false role to claim, without the people who actually know the roleset disagreeing or correcting the group assumption. It just seems a dangerous thing to do Day 1.

  41. ISO #41
    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#40)
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#34)
    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#30)
    I'm generally suspicious of anyone wanting people to reveal roles this early. It usually indicates mafia wanting to get people claiming roles so they have some idea of who to line up at night. At this stage there's enough townies for those with important good roles to stay hidden and actually do some good for the town.
    I agree. Asking for people to come out and announce their role is pretty scummy. But the idea isn't for people to come out and claim their role. It was for everyone in the thread to fake claim a role and their targets from the night before. Obviously we don't have any targets yet as we started day, but we're discussing a way to have our power roles NOT actually claim but still give us their targets by making everyone blanket claim a fake role and their targets. That way the real prs can give us a history of their real targets without exposing their role.

    My suggestion was to alter the idea slightly by making it everyone claims a single agreed on role, like cop for example. And then just say a target. Our PRs will be able to give their real target, and it will be masked in an identical list of claims. So the scum shouldn't be able to gain anything, we will only know what is real AFTER the Pr has died. It's like a safety net so we don't lose night information from a lucky Mafia kill.

    Does this make sense why the idea isn't to reveal roles but to hide them better?
    Issue though is we don't even know what roles we've been given in this playset, so it's hard to pinpoint a false role to claim, without the people who actually know the roleset disagreeing or correcting the group assumption. It just seems a dangerous thing to do Day 1.
    Aye I agree that its a pretty blind thing to do. But that's the beauty of it. We can blanket claim as any role to make it work. We can all claim doctor, all claim undying lich strip poker with unlimited shot revive for all it matters. The role we blanket claim doesn't matter as long as we blanket all claim the same role. That way IF a power role ever dies, they will have told the truth about their TARGETS, so we will be able to look at who and what they targeted to see what they did before they died.

    For example, if there is a Cop right, we all blanket claim whatever. We list our claims, and come day 4, oh my god the cop died night 3 without giving any investigations. Normally that would be 3 confirmed townies we just lost. But with this plan, we know once his role flips, he targeted x, y, and z and he didn't speak up. So he must have gotten innocent on those three people. Bam confirmed townies. Without the list we'd lose that. All the Mafia is going to see before the PR is dead is just a wall of people claiming nonsense. Which is what it is until a PR dies. Its a back up net. It can't be used before the PR dies so it can't endanger any PRs to being revealed until it already doesn't matter. We won't start it today, no one has made any actions yet that we know of. We'd start it Day 2. Does this make more sense or am I just sounding like an idiot. Because you wouldn't be the first person to tell me, "Nah Dante you're a gabbed up gobber m80."

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    Actually the point about the claimed role not mattering makes even more sense to just drop the claimed role. We could literally just say I targeted X last night and not even claim a role! As long as everyone does it, it won't cut down on the possible PRs for the scum at all!

  43. ISO #43
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#41)
    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#40)
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#34)
    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#30)
    I'm generally suspicious of anyone wanting people to reveal roles this early. It usually indicates mafia wanting to get people claiming roles so they have some idea of who to line up at night. At this stage there's enough townies for those with important good roles to stay hidden and actually do some good for the town.
    I agree. Asking for people to come out and announce their role is pretty scummy. But the idea isn't for people to come out and claim their role. It was for everyone in the thread to fake claim a role and their targets from the night before. Obviously we don't have any targets yet as we started day, but we're discussing a way to have our power roles NOT actually claim but still give us their targets by making everyone blanket claim a fake role and their targets. That way the real prs can give us a history of their real targets without exposing their role.

    My suggestion was to alter the idea slightly by making it everyone claims a single agreed on role, like cop for example. And then just say a target. Our PRs will be able to give their real target, and it will be masked in an identical list of claims. So the scum shouldn't be able to gain anything, we will only know what is real AFTER the Pr has died. It's like a safety net so we don't lose night information from a lucky Mafia kill.

    Does this make sense why the idea isn't to reveal roles but to hide them better?
    Issue though is we don't even know what roles we've been given in this playset, so it's hard to pinpoint a false role to claim, without the people who actually know the roleset disagreeing or correcting the group assumption. It just seems a dangerous thing to do Day 1.
    Aye I agree that its a pretty blind thing to do. But that's the beauty of it. We can blanket claim as any role to make it work. We can all claim doctor, all claim undying lich strip poker with unlimited shot revive for all it matters. The role we blanket claim doesn't matter as long as we blanket all claim the same role. That way IF a power role ever dies, they will have told the truth about their TARGETS, so we will be able to look at who and what they targeted to see what they did before they died.

    For example, if there is a Cop right, we all blanket claim whatever. We list our claims, and come day 4, oh my god the cop died night 3 without giving any investigations. Normally that would be 3 confirmed townies we just lost. But with this plan, we know once his role flips, he targeted x, y, and z and he didn't speak up. So he must have gotten innocent on those three people. Bam confirmed townies. Without the list we'd lose that. All the Mafia is going to see before the PR is dead is just a wall of people claiming nonsense. Which is what it is until a PR dies. Its a back up net. It can't be used before the PR dies so it can't endanger any PRs to being revealed until it already doesn't matter. We won't start it today, no one has made any actions yet that we know of. We'd start it Day 2. Does this make more sense or am I just sounding like an idiot. Because you wouldn't be the first person to tell me, "Nah Dante you're a gabbed up gobber m80."

    Well, no. If we all blanket claim a role that doesn't exist in this game and then, say the Cop dies, it tells us nothing.

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    Greetings.

    I see hypoclaims are being discussed. There was a pretty good article on this subject here

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    The downside to leaving cover as suggested by Dante et all is that people out themselves as 'not the cop' by a few things: peeking a wolf as innocent, choosing a peek they wouldn't realistically investigate, or talking about their peek later as though they hadn't peeked them innocent. This can lead to helping the scum team narrow down the cop pool considerably, read the postgame of game 1 here for some insight into how that works.

    My homesite doesn't do this kind of hypoclaiming because we don't typically play with role revealed on death. As such I don't have a ton of experience with it but I have played a couple games with it when playing elsewhere. My experience has been that while articles like the above are helpful, there's no substitute for practicing it over a couple games until you can get the nuances down, and most people leaving cover for the first time tend to screw it up (again see game 1). This is especially true when trying to maintain cover over multiple day phases.

    What I'd suggest is waiting a couple day phases until right before a more high leverage night (and maybe when we have a better idea of the PR's) and then leave convincing cover meant to help for that one night. I think that strikes a good balance between keeping the PR's alive and not outing people as not PR or being a huge distraction to the thread. The article I linked to more or less advocates this anyway, even though it's largely aimed at people more experienced with hypoclaiming.

    @Whodoctor, I'm a little unclear why you suggested the doc/jailer should claim targets (or rather that everyone should claim doc/jailer targets). How do you see that information benefiting the town?

  45. ISO #45
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#42)
    Actually the point about the claimed role not mattering makes even more sense to just drop the claimed role. We could literally just say I targeted X last night and not even claim a role! As long as everyone does it, it won't cut down on the possible PRs for the scum at all!

    Yes, this makes far more sense.

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    Open question(s) to the group:

    Have you read any of the previous champions games (please keep in mind not to discuss game 2 of this season as it is ongoing)? What were your takeaways if any? How do you plan on dealing with not having meta on other players, and is metareads a big part of your game? How, if at all, are you going to approach this game differently from a regular game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM1 (#45)
    Quote Originally Posted by SirDantetheFancy (#42)
    Actually the point about the claimed role not mattering makes even more sense to just drop the claimed role. We could literally just say I targeted X last night and not even claim a role! As long as everyone does it, it won't cut down on the possible PRs for the scum at all!

    Yes, this makes far more sense.
    I disagree pretty strongly with this. As a cop I'm going to target very difficult people than I would as a doctor or than I would as a tracker, not to mention a vig. I think the scum would be able to infer quite a bit about roles from this. Do you disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpsideDownChuck (#46)
    Open question(s) to the group:

    Have you read any of the previous champions games (please keep in mind not to discuss game 2 of this season as it is ongoing)? What were your takeaways if any? How do you plan on dealing with not having meta on other players, and is metareads a big part of your game? How, if at all, are you going to approach this game differently from a regular game?
    Observe and add comments when things are suspicious. It's best to read every post and make notes. That is the Walterfootball strategy.

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    UDC is pretty much where my head is at on hypoclaims. With too many people who haven't done it and the odds that someone on mafia is competent to weed through those sorts of tells, it gives away far more information than we get in return.

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