I'm having trouble thinking of the kind of TMI that would be elicited by that claim, could you explain this?
Also, what ingredients go in your ideal panini?
I'm having trouble thinking of the kind of TMI that would be elicited by that claim, could you explain this?
Also, what ingredients go in your ideal panini?
I was trying to bait one of them into saying something along the lines that might be a perspective slip by showing they knew that they roleblocked Butterfree last night so I couldn't possibly be the true cop, or some kind of forced w/w theatre between them since bbt seems hell bent on scum reading RNP but never actually interacting with him.
I'm partial to the classic chicken pesto, cheese and tomato, I think putting lettuce and stuff in there really just ruins the integrity of a perfectly good sandwich by adding soggy bits and pieces to it.
I mean like I don't know at this point my fate is literally in your hands. I'm beyond upset that I $%#!ed up trying to make a play that could save me but it sounds like your minds are made up I guess.
I'm going to sleep. If there's absolutely anything I can help you puzzle out about my crappy town performance please let me know, and DO NOT hammer while I'm asleep I'm begging you.
Give me a day here? Call it me being selfish and wanting to finally write a wall today after I didn't yesterday...
If Butterfree wants to just get it over with, I'll follow her lead.
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Ahahaha, Panini that claim was amazing and I salute you, and I’m so sad you bungled what the neapolitan does because it would’ve been a blast unexpectedly counterarguing that today instead of going back and forth squinting at any remaining possibility of Eifie/RNP (which I spent all yesterday evening on, God).
I’m in no hurry, though, I’d love to see Keldeo’s wall. Maybe I’ll just pretend there was no neapolitan bungle and counterargue it anyway.
yep. absolutely, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt correct. mhm.
##Vote panini
Sure, Keldeo, write your wall.
nah there'll be plenty of time for that tomorrow let's just get to lynching panini now
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zzz
My response to bbt (spoilered for long):
Implicating someone as the partner of a person that’s currently your top scum read is the same thing as calling their interaction w/w, so I was asking you why you thought that I was more likely scum (i.e. scummy) because of the way I interacted. You even tacked on P#409 after you had written P#408 to emphasise the point that it was the most likely possibility to you which is why I called it into question directly. I thought there was a completely reasonable explanation for the way I was currently reading DA and didn’t like your reasoning for the association so I challenged it. I don’t see that as an over-reaction just because you weren’t rallying to kill me there and then.
This is a little heavy on the meta, but I think it’s pretty surprising you think that the following are true: You,
a) know that I know that that was a major flaw with my wolf game considering we ended up talking about it a lot
b) believe I wouldn’t deliberately do my best to change as a wolf that in a game where I know I’m playing with you
And yet neither are considerations for you. I was having trouble engaging with the game as a whole D2 because the only times I managed to carve out a moment, no one was online so of course the moments I were able to talk to people were spread out few and far between, but that was true of every other player, not just DA like you seemingly cherry picked to talk about when it was just as true that I hadn’t really interacted with Keldeo or RNP either. It’s also not true I stayed on the sidelines given that I made an opinion on DA in P#407 telling you exactly how I felt about the situation and what kind of read I had on her. It wasn’t one that you particular liked, obviously, but it was my genuine opinion at the time that the stuff surrounding her wasn’t incriminating.
I still have no idea why you think I didn’t believe that when I said it, it’s very clearly laid out as to exactly why it seems fabricated given it was a baseless assumption to make rooted in the idea that me giving DA a weak townread is suddenly enough of an association to make us a scum team together.
Admittedly I was flailing to a degree at this point in time, but it was because I hadn’t gotten my head together prior to this point and was having a hard time constructing a coherent line of thought that I could be satisfied with going into the end of the day. Turns out you actually do get inconsistencies when you start half assing wall posts just because people expect them out of you, regardless of alignment.
Reguarding the MD stuff though, I thought you had been softing a PR read on her earlier in the day:
You barely mention MD in the paragraph prior but provided a different explanation for dimissing the possibility of Bfree in the team, which is why I thought you had some kind of read on MD that you didn't have on Bfree. I also thought that her “Pagliacci” cover was actually a subtle way of saying she had visited me the previous night, since she only ever mentioned my name in P#378.I think DarkAura is fairly likely to be scum, I'm stil waiting for her to answer my question but I feel like she's purposely dodged it so that's really not helping. Panini is her most likely partner, I thought MD might make sense but now I'm thinking less so, so I suppose if DarkAura was scum and Panini was innocent I'd consider DarkAura/Butterfree. I've been watching their interactions today and it feels like it could be plausible but I'd be really surprised if it actually was the case that DarkAura flipped scum and it wasn't DarkAura/Panini.
If DarkAura is innocent then... maybe the way Panini's treated her is still individually sketchy as I indicated in P#422. I didn't really think about it individually before because, like I've said, I don't know how to read Panini and can pretty much only do so by association. Panini/Butterfree could maybe be possible, I was uncomfortable with how easily Butterfree seemed to be reading her town. This is really unlikely because it would require both scum to have piled onto qva and then shot Kratos which is why DarkAura/Panini feels like by far the most compelling possibility.
As for why I feel relatively confident, let's just say I have a PR read on someone keeping them out of my PoE.
Which is why I worded it this way specifically:
I specifically said:
I did town read you. What I said was that you were being followed by scum who were taking advantage of the fact that you were doing the heavy lifting for them and all they had to do was piggyback off the read. You don’t have to be the one who is ulti-thunderdoming to be giving the mislynch weight. I very clearly never started scum reading you until post claims and I didn’t mention your name here at all.
I directly advocated not to lynch her in P#460 citing wagon movements, which weren’t a factor yet when I had made P#436. You can’t time travel from the point where she had one vote to the point after she had hit L-1 and say it’s the same thing.
I think this is your weakest point out of all. What am I supposed to be like in the second post, still tripping all over myself about what to do? We had a lynch to finish, of course I took a second to logically find an alternative after the fact. I wasn’t about to sit there dwaddling when there was time left and a decision to be made.
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come on let's just lynch panini and get it over with eh
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do it! come on! we gon hafta wait? kill panini, she's obviously mafia, right? do it now so we can get this over with, huh? it's so easy! just hit that little reply with quote button! lynch panini so a winner can be decided! me!
Here's the wall I was promising. It's not very good or useful at this point, but thank you for humoring me and allowing me to drag this out just a little longer
First, I think by and large I agree with Butterfree's analysis of why Eifie/Panini isn't a world: Eifie put Panini essentially at a tie with MD - her vote in P#554 made it 3-3 Panini-MD with an implied self-preservation vote from Panini, not including the unvote from DA that they couldn't have anticipated. This is a bit of a risky move (and also only works if Eifie is the roleblocker) since there's a 50% chance that Panini dies and Eifie has to fight for the RNP/Panini and MD/Panini worlds while also preventing Butterfree from getting checks; it would've been much easier for her to just need to push through one mislynch the next day. So I think I am okay ruling out this world - call it a sheep, but Butterfree's analysis feels solid.
Where I want to go next is looking at how everyone in the POE interacted with and mentioned each other.
Eifie's interactions with/progression on Panini:
- d1: Early light discussion about flavor and Sporcle. Very early slight townlean for prodding at herself and Butterfree. Agreement with some points Panini makes on qva for a townread of qva. Puts Panini in a category with Butterfree and Kratos as "generally towny but wary."
- d2: says she won't talk about qva voters until they interact. Points out Butterfree's P#299 (Panini might not be mafia due to NKA) as a good insight while questioning Butterfree's easy town lean on Panini, pointing out Lovers Mafia and saying it's hard for her to read Panini. Lists Panini as second-lowest on reads list. Questions Panini's description of her as a good wolf. During this time tunnels DarkAura, and so Panini's place in her stated reads list is the same. Continues to argue for DA/Panini through most of the day. After the claims, says "Could it be Panini/MD???" which Panini calls out as inconsistent with her earlier options (although it is consistent with DA being doctor and her stated read of RNP as towny and Butterfree as Neapolitan with a green check on me.) Thinks out loud about Panini still as mafia, looking for a partner.
- d3: obviously, cases Panini. d3 is less useful because everyone in the POE knows the mafia team and knows that they should be pushing for the world that doesn't include them.
Eifie on RNP:
- d1: points out P#75 as poor tone. Asks him a few questions about what he thinks. Later says that she appreciates his effort in later posts so slight town lean, which continues to nearer EOD.
- d2: Townlean continues; P#300. Doubts DA floating the idea of Eifie/RNP team. Reads RNP's post near EOD as subtly claiming doctor. Continues to townlean him.
Panini on Eifie:
- d1: Notes an early semi-ping but could go either way. Agrees with my townread on her for early jokes, although later notes that she's still wary of her, but still out of her lynch pool today. Overall fairly few thoughts but most of Panini's first day was thoughts on qva, anyway.
- d2: Still notes an okay but wary read on Eifie. Lists Eifie as second top town in her reads list (I think). Pushes back on Eifie's idea of the herself/DA team, saying that she's neutral on DA. Wants to go after MD but points out bbt/MD wolf team as a massive stretch; votes Butterfree for the qva vote and for following Eifie's consensus. Says Eifie is in a tunnel. (this could be a sign of struggling to maintain perspective on the scumread; she sounds a bit like she's trying to remind Eifie that she's tunnelling without knowing it, implying Eifie is town.) After the claims, begins to consider MD/bbt and bbt/RNP in P#531, voting Eifie and sussing her for expressing the desire to hammer DA.
Panini on RNP:
- d1: notes him as the type of player who's hard for her to read, asks him to clarify his thoughts on me and Eifie.
- d2: as Butterfree noted she says she's relying on others' meta for him, though she notes that he's relaxed and agendaless. After the claims, when MD/RNP/bbt is her POE, she notes a not w/w interaction with MD/RNP and so votes bbt.
RNP on Eifie:
- d1: a few early interactions that I don't think say anything. Reads both me and Eifie as neutral. Then reads Eifie as "detached" from me, unsuspiciously so, so I guess this is a townread.
- d2: in response to a DA post about the RNP/Eifie possibility, brings up the fact that Butterfree tried to coach him in Meowfia and he didn't listen (Butterfree independently brought this up, too, so this doesn't mean that much.) The whole thing with Eifie thinking he was softing doctor by voting DarkAura.
RNP on Panini:
- d1: Notes no strong feelings on Panini, in a near-EOD says he wants to read through her meta (doesn't really follow up on this)
- d2: asks Panini why she voted qva
- d3: I'm going to mention d3 because of this weird hyper-WIFOMy "kill Panini since she's mafia so I can win!" thing that he's said like three times. If he's partners with Eifie, obviously he wants to encourage Panini's death, but this is such a weird way to go about it. If he's partners with Panini, I don't know what he gains from this given that if we lynch Panini we're following Eifie and will probably lynch him tomorrow if Panini is mafia.
The Panini claim
- I feel like talking about stuff that happens today might be less productive than examining the past due to the current game state, but I also wanted to work through this.
- In any case, I think Panini believed in her version of the Neapolitan; I don't think that Panini was expecting the claim to fail due to getting the Neapolitan wrong, because that would ruin the point as either alignment. She said a few things near EOD yesterday that led me to believe she got the Neapolitan wrong in the same manner at that time (and I corrected her, although maybe she didn't notice)
- If Panini is town: In this case, we believe everything she's said about her motivations here. She planned to rescind upon exposing TMI that cleared her. I'm still not entirely sure how this would work because I think most people right now would believe that Butterfree was the neapolitan over a day-later counterclaim...
- If Panini is mafia: If Panini was planning overnight to make this claim, she would have definitely killed DarkAura and blocked Butterfree, rather than the other way around, to make it possible. (Of course, Eifie/RNP could also have made this kill due to thinking that Butterfree would be more likely to side with them than DarkAura, because of DarkAura having floated the Eifie/RNP world.) In this case, unsure whether Panini planned to withdraw the claim. I guess if Panini did not rescind, she could maybe spread some question marks around Butterfree while also opening myself and Eifie as options due to her conception of the Neapolitan, but I still feel like most people would side with Butterfree over her. If she planned to rescind, I'm not sure what benefit this would get her other than the ability to WIFOM over the fact that she wouldn't do it as mafia?
Meh, honestly I wanted to find some spicy evidence that would point toward Panini being not w/w with RNP or something and result in interesting discussion tomorrow. But I'm still just pretty unsure - I think I agree with what Butterfree's been saying about RNP/Panini being most likely but I also don't think that RNP/Eifie has been ruled out completely. I think what's notable as a point against RNP/Panini is that Eifie consistently townleans RNP until he's, from her point of view, a mechanical lock mafia. This interaction and lack of reevaluation does have a fair bit of partner equity (though it's not like Panini/RNP doesn't have partner equity.) In addition, how RNP's been acting today has been kind of weird in either partner situation and especially in the Panini/RNP situation, imo, although I know that today is especially prone to being WIFOMed. The Panini claim just feels like such a strange tack to take as either alignment, too. In the end, I guess I find Eifie more consistently towny... I kind of want to lynch RedneckPhoenix today to be most sure about being right because I'm fairly sure it isn't Eifie/Panini, but I think Eifie is right that we should just decide between her and Panini today.
This wall isn't very well organized and I guess mostly for myself to think through this. It's also after midnight, so I might look back at this tomorrow and just give everything a sanity check prior to if and when I vote, but I am also leaning Panini right now, I guess? I'm really sorry if you're town!
@antialiasis I'm not sure what to do here. I think I'll follow your lead because I haven't found anything that makes me extremely convinced one way or the other. You don't have to read the whole wall because it's mostly repeated information, but could you read the second-to-last paragraph? Am I just overthinking something simple here?
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I think it's pretty clear that Panini's claim was made hoping we'd buy it (well, that you would buy it), and the "uh, the plan was to get Eifie/RNP to reveal some TMI!" was a hasty walkback from it. There was absolutely no guarantee they'd reveal anything of the kind, and what was Panini planning to do then? Go "Um, just kidding, guys!"? The slim chance of this move actually leading to some kind of game-solving TMI is surely outweighed by the much more significant chance of not getting any such TMI and meanwhile making herself look incredibly suspicious by making a fake counterclaim and walking it back when it's not working. Panini seems like a pretty careful, analytical player; if town!Panini had come up with this plan, at the absolute least, I'd expect her to have a very concrete idea of exactly what sort of undeniable TMI she was hoping for and why this claim would be likely to elicit it. "Just some kind of TMI showing they'd actually roleblocked Butterfree, maybe" is not something you'd concoct this sort of elaborate plan for.
Instead, I think scum!Panini just didn't like the idea of having to argue for Eifie/RNP over Panini/RNP today. You had been townreading Eifie the whole game; I had been feeling worse about Panini as the game went on; by at least the time the claim was made I'd already indicated I was pretty firmly on the Panini/RNP side; Panini really had been pretty glaringly giving RNP a pass in a way that'd be hard to play off under further scrutiny; and very possibly Panini just thought it'd be tedious and boring. Claiming neapolitan and casting suspicion on me instead, though? Definitely not boring, and if she'd pulled it off, quite possibly more likely to succeed. You had voted for me yesterday, and Eifie often overthinks things; perhaps one of you might be convinced by something this ballsy, and I'd be flustered and play it badly, and that could've been all it took. Either way it'd probably be more fun for Panini than the expected Eifie/RNP vs. Panini/RNP debate.
To humour Panini for a moment, supposing she'd double-checked how the neapolitan works, I'm not sure she'd have still made the claim and claimed to have checked Eifie as vanilla town - one strength of her claim gambit was that in this claim's hypothetical world, both me/Eifie and me/RNP were possible, so RNP would be able to believably and nonsuspiciously get on board with it (supposedly assuming it was me/Eifie) while Eifie could also get on board (believing it was me/RNP and he was bussing), and Keldeo only had to see one of those as plausible. Buuut in the hypothetical world where the neapolitan did work like Panini thought, here's what I would've argued:
Why would you (Panini) take the huge, huge risk of not claiming even when you were one of the leading lynch candidates? This plan might've made sense if you could just sit back innocuously and watch what I'd do, but you were getting votes; I wasn't popping up to save MD when I totally could (apparently you didn't buy that my phone'd just died) so we were pretty clearly heading for a mislynch; even if you did survive and get more info, then today you'd be left to defend the decision to sit by letting this happen when you knew I was mafia all along, while we were in LYLO. This seems an obviously disastrous way to go, one that looks all too identical to a last desperate mafia flail - and you should've known that.
You claim that you falsely believed neapolitan gives you vanilla town clears - this was presumably the only way you could justify having believed this gambit would get you info that was significant enough to be worth this - but yesterday in the thread (P#531), you indicated that you did believe neapolitan would only give you vanilla/not vanilla. So somehow, you made your plan while being wrong about your role, but were then shortly afterwards right about it in the thread (in this hypothetical world where the neapolitan really was a vanilla cop), and yet did not notice the problem? You likewise indicate that your reasoning for inspecting Keldeo N1 was based on believing he might be the doctor and you'd be sure once the roleblocker or doctor flipped, which only makes sense if you did at that point understand the role to give vanilla/PR results. So in this explanation, forgetting how it works somehow only happened for this one small gap of time while you were formulating the not-claiming plan, and then you maagically got the role right again in P#531, yet didn't rethink the plan. This does not seem very likely.
The suggestion that I "froze" and therefore wasn't around for the last twenty minutes of the day is pretty comical; surely not getting the expected counterclaim to a fakeclaim isn't so shocking I'd just go catatonic for twenty full minutes. Surely I could've at least made some kind of vote when everyone was asking where I was. The suggestion that I was lying about my phone dying is a huge unnecessary reach - even if I were mafia it was a much more sensible explanation for my disappearance towards the end, and I think town!Panini would probably conclude that, rather than trying to make it into some kind of scum thing (whereas scum!Panini, reaching for things to smear me with, might want to just kind of throw everything at the wall and see what sticks).
As for RNP today, I think his play reads as a pretty transparent effort to make us feel uneasy about killing Panini. It's clumsy from Panini/RNP, but I really can't imagine Eifie/RNP deciding to do this at this stage, when they'd pretty clearly be about to win if RNP just stayed quiet and didn't do this.
All in all, I'm ready to vote.
##Vote Panini
Either way, though, really well played, and I $%#!ing love that ballsy claim gambit. I would love to play more games with you in the future.
Okay! That makes sense.
Just want to restate that this game was really fun, I love you all and would be thrilled to play with all of you again (and I’m sorry to everyone we mislynched!)
@bbt did you know that "bbt" could stand for "boom bye town"?
haven't read anything after Keldeo's wall, I just see the vote
smh Keldeo it's so obvious lol
##Vote Panini
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@antialiasis I LEAVE THE HAMMER TO YOU
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Town must not lynch incorrectly today.
Votes are locked. Your first vote is final. Day ends immediately upon majority or when everyone has cast a vote.
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 1 Redneckphoenix bbt (3) 2 Not voting Redneckphoenix (0), antialiasis (0)
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End day at majority is enabled. With 3 players alive, it takes 2 votes to reach majority.
Day 4 ends at 4:00 PM EDT on Monday, April 29th, 2019. There are 1556568060000 remaining.
Posted at 2 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, 4 seconds remaining.
BY THE POWER OF CAT GIFS I SUMMON BUTTERFREE
also i have nowhere else to put these because they didn't let me finish lolcatting in ms paint smh
Goddd I was impatiently refreshing for half of the night but then forgot tonight when it was actually happening
##Vote Redneckphoenix
TCoDf Invitational Day 4 Votecount
Town must not lynch incorrectly today.
Votes are locked. Your first vote is final. Day ends immediately upon majority or when everyone has cast a vote.
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 2 Redneckphoenix bbt (5), antialiasis (1) 1 Not voting Redneckphoenix (0)
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End day at majority is enabled. With 3 players alive, it takes 2 votes to reach majority.
Redneckphoenix was lynched. They were:
The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia RoleblockerRole PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker. Not to be confused with the Diggers-By-Fan Club, which is the blue building across the street. You don't serve chai lattes.
You win when you overpower the town and eliminate any other evil faction(s) in the game.
As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
Mafia Roleblocker
As Mafia Roleblocker, you have access to the Roleblocking Night Action. Roleblocking another player prevents them from being able to successfully use any Night Action that they might have that night. You will not learn whether your target had a Night Action. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.
If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.
X-Shot
The X-Shot modifier limits the number of times you can use your Night actions. If you spend all of your shots then you will not be able to use Night actions anymore.
You have 1 shots at the start of the game.
Day 4 has ended.
Day 4 ended at 7:07 PM EDT on Friday, April 26th, 2019.
Game Over
All threats to Town have been eliminated. Town wins.
Town Members
@antialiasis
@bbt
@DarkAura
@Keldeo
@Music Dragon
@Phoenixsong
@qva
x1 Mafia Goon
x1 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker
x1 Town Neapolitan
x5 Vanilla Town
x1 Town Doctorantialiasis (Pokemon Ultraton, Town Neapolitan)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are Pokemon Ultraton, Town Neapolitan, the editor of choice for making Pokémon games. The customer testimonials speak for themselves.
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Town Neapolitan
As Town Neapolitan, you have access to the Neapolitan Inspection Night Action. Neapolitan Inspection will reveal whether your target is Vanilla Town (with no modifiers) or not.
Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
bbt (horgie, Vanilla Town)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are horgie, Vanilla Town, trapped in Ollytron's body because horgie didn't have an avatar. You Like To Knitting In your Free Time.
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
DarkAura (TCOD Solutions, Town Doctor)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are TCOD Solutions, Town Doctor, a legitimate business. You offer flexible, high-quality solutions for personal and corporate use.
Customers can get the most bang for their buck with the TCOD Power Package. This powerful all-in-one package, while created for larger businesses, will certainly satisfy all your needs on a personal level as well. The Power Package combines all the desirable qualities of other equivalent products: easy to implement, reasonably priced, and above all its stunning, smooth performance will surely outdo anything else you have ever tried.
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Town Doctor
As Town Doctor, you have access to the Protection Night Action. Protection will protect your target from being killed. You will not learn whether you successfully protected someone. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.
If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
Keldeo (Scyther, Vanilla Town)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are Scyther, Vanilla Town, TCoD's favourite Pokémon.
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
Music Dragon (the CABE OF DAGROM FLIES,,, Vanilla Town)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are the CABE OF DAGROM FLIES,,, Vanilla Town. You took over TCoDf for a brief time in 2011 when Negrek, in a failed bid for ultimate power, ousted her fellow admins and instated Lord Engfisk and Doc Scratch in their place. Fortunately this did not keeps happening bro, because I don't know anything about Homestuck and would like to keep it that way.
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
Panini (Ollytron, Mafia Goon)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
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You win when you overpower the town and eliminate any other evil faction(s) in the game. Your teammates are:
Mafia Team
Panini (Ollytron, Mafia Goon)
Redneckphoenix (The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker)
As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
Mafia Chat: TCoDf Invitational Mafia Chat
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
Phoenixsong (Terry. T., Vanilla Town)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are Terry. T., Vanilla Town, trapped in Ollytron's body because Terry. T. didn't have an avatar. You write poems.
"Pikapower, like a flower,
All so very true!
Dewgong, Bellsprout
Not in a wellsprout!
Eevee, Cutie,
What a little sweetie!
Pachi-Pachirisu,
Nutty little kooky!"
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
qva (Drägönflÿc Ävënüë, Vanilla Town)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are Drägönflÿc Ävënüë, Vanilla Town, a Slovenian progressive Celtic avant-garde scene band.
Drägönflÿc has been compared to Björk, Dream Theater, Queensrÿche and the Armenian Navy Band. The band's first single, "Cut Out My Face", is a fine summary of their style - atmospheric, emotional, and bold. Their debut, Än Övëräbündäncë öf Dïë ä Crïtïcs, has been set to be released sometime in late 2008. (We are still waiting.)
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
Redneckphoenix (The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker)Role PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker. Not to be confused with the Diggers-By-Fan Club, which is the blue building across the street. You don't serve chai lattes.
You win when you overpower the town and eliminate any other evil faction(s) in the game. Your teammates are:
Mafia Team
Panini (Ollytron, Mafia Goon)
Redneckphoenix (The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker)
As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
Mafia Roleblocker
As Mafia Roleblocker, you have access to the Roleblocking Night Action. Roleblocking another player prevents them from being able to successfully use any Night Action that they might have that night. You will not learn whether your target had a Night Action. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.
If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.
X-Shot
The X-Shot modifier limits the number of times you can use your Night actions. If you spend all of your shots then you will not be able to use Night actions anymore.
You have 1 shots at the start of the game.
Mafia Chat: TCoDf Invitational Mafia Chat
Game Thread: TCoDf Invitational
N1: Keldeo — Vanilla Cop
N2: Panini — Vanilla Cop
N3: bbt — Vanilla CopN1: Panini — Protection
N2: antialiasis — ProtectionN1: Phoenixsong — Factional Kill
N2: DarkAura — Factional Kill
N2: antialiasis — Roleblock
N3: Keldeo — Factional Kill
Mafia Chat: TCoDf Invitational Mafia Chat
Graveyard Chat: TCoDf Invitational Graveyard Chat
Post-game discussion starts now.
I've told you guys that Diggersby Fanclub was up to no good! Come join us at The Blue Building Across the Street, where we serve chai lattes and brand your allegiance into your skin!TCoDf Invitational Day 4 Votecount
Town must not lynch incorrectly today.
Votes are locked. Your first vote is final. Day ends immediately upon majority or when everyone has cast a vote.
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 2 Redneckphoenix bbt (5), antialiasis (1) 1 Not voting Redneckphoenix (0)
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End day at majority is enabled. With 3 players alive, it takes 2 votes to reach majority.
Redneckphoenix was lynched. They were:
The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia RoleblockerRole PM for TCoDf Invitational
You are The Diggersby Fanclub, 1-Shot Mafia Roleblocker. Not to be confused with the Diggers-By-Fan Club, which is the blue building across the street. You don't serve chai lattes.
You win when you overpower the town and eliminate any other evil faction(s) in the game.
As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
Mafia Roleblocker
As Mafia Roleblocker, you have access to the Roleblocking Night Action. Roleblocking another player prevents them from being able to successfully use any Night Action that they might have that night. You will not learn whether your target had a Night Action. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used. You cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.
If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.
X-Shot
The X-Shot modifier limits the number of times you can use your Night actions. If you spend all of your shots then you will not be able to use Night actions anymore.
You have 1 shots at the start of the game.
Day 4 has ended.
Day 4 ended at 7:07 PM EDT on Friday, April 26th, 2019.
AT LAST SWEET DVC
wow you guys talked a lot in there
postgame wall inc
My Final Wall
Man, this was awesome. You were all so good.
This invitational (or at least some sort of invitational for people who prefer to do less real-time and instead make meatier posts less often and play at a slower pace) has been a dream of mine for a while now and I'm super thrilled that you were all willing to put your all into this and make it so awesome. I think maybe we went a bit overboard with the Wallpost Hell and I'm actually a bit more appreciative of playing real-time now, haha... that is when we actually started exposing mafia, after all. I feel like the first day and a half was like, each of us posting like a diary entry of our thoughts and feelings for that day, and then other people referencing parts of the diary entry in their own diary entry, and not all that much in the way of actual interaction happening, and then people felt obligated to make wallposts, and reading all the posts started to get exhausting. It was a cool experience though!
I thought playing with my friends would be a lot less stressful than normal games on MU, but I think it actually ended up being even more intense... I am probably going to slank in my next tcodf game, haha. (bastard calvinball pls)
@qva, your mislynch was atrocious (now that I have perfect knowledge) and I should have tried harder to prevent it. Sorry man, I thought you played well and really admired the effort you kept putting in even when the thread was mostly against you.
@Phoenixsong, I'm sorry even here you couldn't escape dying N1... :C Guess you didn't need more than 9 posts for the resident guest Panini to recognize you as a threat!
@Music Dragon, I thought it was really awesome how you were able to adapt to a new style of play when you didn't really know what was going on at first and your posts brought some much-needed levity into the thread when the going was intense and I would nominate your joke cover article for an award if anyone outside of tcodf and Panini actually cared about this game.Sorry I couldn't save you in the end there.
@DarkAura, uh, this is awkward... I think we came to an understanding in the end though.
@Panini:
I hope you had fun playing with us. Just for you, I'll waive the Sporcle requirement if you ever want to join us on tcodf. We don't usually wallpost quite this much, but our games are relatively chiller and slower-paced and not really real-time. I think you'd fit in!
@antialiasis:
Man, I wrote all that stuff about my case on Panini and wrote everyone here a Complete Guide to Reading Eifie (so no one has any business losing to me as a wolf in the future) because I wanted to win so badly, only to find out that you'd already figured everything out, haha. We even made a lot of the same points! Cool stuff.
@Redneckphoenix: Just, mad $%#!ing props, man. That was such a significant turnaround from Meowfia that I just refused to consider you as mafia until I was mechanically forced to do so. Really really awesome.
@Keldeo: We finally get to village together, and I went and messed it up... awks. Maybe next time...?
Also thanks to @Mantichora for running the bot for us and having to do effort every time I had to ask him to change something (and apparently even making a tcodf account to contact DarkAura? lol high-effort hosting), everyone pls offer up aof apprecation, thanks
I hope some of you might want to stick around on MU! Manti's been running a bunch of new player light games lately, and there's also a mentor/mentee game in sign-ups that starts on Monday! A lot of new players are joining for champs, so it's a good time! And if you don't want to play, you could just watch Keldeo play in champs and cheer for him with me in spec chat!
Thanks for the game everyone.
dvc is so entertaining I love you all especially qva I can't believe you actually saw the b-free thing independently
i mean it was weird, right!? i didn't think it was that weird in the moment that it happened, but then panini called butterfree "he" a couple times in a row and i was like, huh, didn't she seem kind of familiar with her earlier? those things kind of stood out in conjunction with one another
anyway, good game guys! i'm actually really pleased with how this turned out, all things considered. i feel kind of bad that panini had to be the bad guy in her first game with us, but i guess that's how it goes, huh? i'm kind of glad about it ultimately, because it means that you were just capitalizing on my misslips wolfily (wolfily...), so like... i probably didn't actually sound that scummy, right? ... right!? :"""""D i'm very impressed with rnp's performance too, he totally had me going for the first couple days there. seriously good work man.
i read the pagliacci cover post in class and had to leave the room because i was cracking up so hard. so thank you for that md.
my only regret about this game is that i couldn't have been in it for longer! classic q move, honestly. (no hard feelings about getting lynched by the way! i acted a bit frustrated but i was only frustrated within the context of the game, it's all good in the hood irl my friends.) but i was so invested in it even after dying, you guys all played so pretty well. i hope we can play again sometime, it was a blast. but also yeah more realtime plz wandposten ziemlich schlimm eigentlich
Glad to finally have it confirmed, through my flip, that I am in fact the great clown Pagliacci.
It was fun playing with you all! I think I agree with Eifie's assessment that this turned out to be a lot more serious and time-consuming than I had anticipated, which is why I felt the need to educate you all on matters of clownery and Not Using Inscrutable Acronyms All The Time. Hopefully you will carry this lesson with you into your future games, and tell everyone to drop tons of jokes, thereby guaranteeing a Town win by Day 3 at the latest (notice that it did not work out in this game, since Pagliacci died early)!
Extra big thank you to @Mantichora for hosting the game, thank you for your service! If you have been paying attention, I hope you enjoyed this masterclass in, uh, well, whatever it was that we just taught.
Thanks everyone! See you again soon, hehehe!
Thanks for an awesome game, everyone! Serious hats off to RNP; you totally had me and I shouldn't have underestimated you. Special thanks to Eifie for bringing us all together for this and Mantichora for hosting!
qva oh my god I'm so happy you were liveblogging your thoughts in the graveyard thread, I loved reading what was going through your mind! I'm sorry for voting to mislynch you. D:
See, now who's bringing up super ancient games? This honestly hasn't been a thing for years, haha. It sucked while it was happening (and also really only mattered during night starts), but TCoD has actually been allowing me to play Mafia for a good while now! Now what I'm working on is getting permission to survive to endgame more than once in a blue moon. :P
Thanks for setting this up, Eifie, and big thanks to @Mantichora for running this and putting up with our nonsense!
I don't think I have the brainpower to play another game for a little bit, but look forward to the next time I can, heh. Although I am sorely tempted to try running some stuff again... maybe something a little different from the usual fare.
I skimmed through the game. If you guys get some more games on tcod going, I'll def join. Hmu on discord if that happens
Otherwise, if y'all want more games hosted via MU, I can help you out, anytime
Glad y'all enjoyed
Good game, it was really fun
Shoutouts to the final five folks - Butterfree and Eifie, thank you for being correct and keeping us (me) on the right track and carrying town by arguing it so well; Panini and RedneckPhoenix, you were really great adversaries and played well enough to be barely suspected in the early game. qva and Phoenixsong, thank you for a cool day 1, you left us too early!! MD, your posts were hilarious and your analysis was good and I’m so sorry I voted you. DA, you did a great job getting into the game after d1 and your claim basically helped win the game by narrowing it down. I’d be so down to play some more with any of you! And of course, thank you to Manti for hosting and helping to make this possible
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