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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lukundo (#3699)
    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3698)
    hi everyone I lost a bet to insomnia

    I bet that town would win
    Belief 100
    leetic is still going to be the first to vote tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3698)
    hi everyone I lost a bet to insomnia

    I bet that town would win
    lol sorry

    How long is the avatar for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3700)
    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3696)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lukundo (#3695)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#3686)
    Yeah but how about the flavour tho
    Multiple unknown sandwiches that me and @bbt had to research bye overall awesome
    did you guys know that Luk doesn't know what a waffle is
    How
    Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3702)
    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3698)
    hi everyone I lost a bet to insomnia

    I bet that town would win
    lol sorry

    How long is the avatar for
    where are those lolcats

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3704)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3702)
    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3698)
    hi everyone I lost a bet to insomnia

    I bet that town would win
    lol sorry

    How long is the avatar for
    where are those lolcats
    Oh you're right

    Let me do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3705)
    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#3704)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3702)
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    hi everyone I lost a bet to insomnia

    I bet that town would win
    lol sorry

    How long is the avatar for
    where are those lolcats
    Oh you're right

    Let me do that
    come join dvc vc btw

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    Thanks for the game, hosts and players. It was rather exciting, even though we lost. Scum played very well too. Especially strong game from leetic, even though his postcount was low, his content was stronger and in fact looks townier than what some more experienced players would make even when town themselves.

    We had strong town and scum players all around, and the Discord dead chat was also very fun to read!

    Looking forward to joining another game again!

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    Ah, this is done.

    With a townie self-hammer at LYLO

    Whelp

    Thanks to Ara for the good idea and the moderating!

    congrats to scum team and their mentors

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    @Raiden Mei - I am sorry for pocketing you and pulling the wool over your eyes. You played well though!

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    Hi everyone, I was Wildfires mentor

    I hope everyone involved had fun and feels like they got something out of the game and feels better about their game going into their next one. For me, it was really nice to see the difference in confidence for Wildfire from day 1 talking about how self-conscious they were about their image to aggressively defending themselves and pushing their read on the day they got lynched. Even if it was wrong.

    Congrats to the wolf team for the win. You did a good job and let villagers tear into each other when needed. I know that I wasn't close to solving this one and neither was the village. I also want to say gg to the village. Everyone put forth a good effort. We just didn't get there. No shame in that.

    I wanted to thank Manti/Ara for letting me give this a whirl. Hopefully I was helpful.


    Take care everyone

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    ARA: you can post mentor chat if you want...I don't know how....at least I am not sure how to on this site

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    Just archived it, so the Wildfire/Sunbae mentor/mentee thread can be found here!

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    And always remember the most important lesson -

    When someone makes a push on you that is total nonsense -

    @kears123 What do you say to them?

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    Congrats to the wolves! And well played by the village, you had wolf chat caught several times. Virt, leetic, and Insaner & Chemist all played great, and I hope I was able to help them in some way. I definitely learned more about them and myself so I appreciate that opportunity.

    I like the idea of mentors playing and sharing reads with a mentee, could be a fun change. Thank you again Ara and Manti for hosting!

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    @Beck - I don't think I could have asked for a better mentor. You and @Lissa were a great team to work with. I sincerely hope I see you guys in future games.

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    GG all, well played wolves

    I was GG's mentor, tho many of you probably already knew that

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogsloth (#3714)
    And always remember the most important lesson -

    When someone makes a push on you that is total nonsense -

    @kears123 What do you say to them?

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    I'm not sure you could find a better pair of people to mentor wolf chat than Beck and Lissa. I'm kind of envious that you three got to pick their brain for an entire game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogsloth (#3714)
    And always remember the most important lesson -

    When someone makes a push on you that is total nonsense -

    @kears123 What do you say to them?
    @#$& off? In slightly different terms?

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    GG all, was a fun time.

    https://discord.gg/qHWAPV

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    Quote Originally Posted by kears123 (#3721)
    Quote Originally Posted by yogsloth (#3714)
    And always remember the most important lesson -

    When someone makes a push on you that is total nonsense -

    @kears123 What do you say to them?
    @#$& off? In slightly different terms?
    ...close

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    Hey! I actually had a lot of fun in this game even though it got intense for me at times. I had Cory as a mentor, but I'm not sure where he's gotten off to now. I think he helped me figure out that I can just say what I'm thinking instead of waiting for constant approval, which was my downfall in the earlier days. I also think I got better at reading (half of my scum team at the end was right), so that's a plus. I wanna thank Cory for his help and thank Ara and Manti for hosting.

    (Also thanks, Virt for the MVP vote.)

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    Also wanna apologize to Kears and Green, I was pushing so hard on y'all and you weren't even scum, so my sincerest apologies.

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    Thank you to everyone who participated in this game; mentors, mentees, and particularly my cohost Mantichora!! Lots of great knowledge was shared throughout the course of the game - even after death, in the graveyard!!! There was solid play from both alignments; special props to Chemist1422 for subbing in!!

    Feedback regarding the game experience is appreciated, either here or through pm! Were you satisfied/dissatisfied with your pairing, and why? What were you expecting/how did the game live up to (or not) your expectations? What would you want to change for future iterations? Mafia mentor/mentee is particularly useful, seeing as the mafia mentor/mentee setup here was not used before!!

    This game was quite fascinating to host; I'd definitely recommend hosting a mentor/mentee game to anyone looking to improve at mafia since you learn quite a bit reading all these mentor/mentee chats!! I'll be doing another one of these in a few months or so with someone - if you're interested in cohosting it, pm me!

    However, while there are numerous ways to improve like taking advice from those well-versed in the game, or reading Mafia University articles, ultimately the best way is widely agreed upon to be gaining more experience in the game... so go out and play more mafia!!

    Reverse mentor/mentee game information will be in the next post!!!

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    It's time for the reverse mentor/mentee game, which you've probably heard me mention at some point or another!!!

    Basically how this will work is that mentors will be the one playing the game, with mentees being able to follow along and privately communicate with their respective mentors about what on earth they're doing, mafia theory, and whatever else!!

    Mechanically, the game will be starting on June 17th, with 48/24 phases and a 7pm EST EoD! Setup will be automated and basic, depending on the number of mentors interested; probably something like a tracker 9er or other 10er/11er!! Schedule is trying to account for those in champs qualifiers, anniversary mash, and a bunch of other stuff; hopefully this will work for everyone who wishes to participate!!

    Due to how there will likely be more mentees than mentors in based on interest, and also the factor that there are only 14 mentors for 15 mentees... there may need to be some swaps and stuff; if you sign up and your mentor/mentee isn't interested, I'll pm you about your options!!! In the case of there just being more mentees interested than mentors, an option for the remaining mentee may be to simply add them to mafia chat or something like that!

    To sign up, please confirm either here or to me (Ara) privately that you are okay with the start date/phases/EoD/possible setup! Any mentor or mentee can sign up, even if you said you weren't interested earlier and changed your mind, but you do not have to sign up if you don't want to! I'll pm you to confirm your pair, and then check in with everyone again the week leading up to it as well; this basically counts as an invitational, for the record!!

    Pinging everyone who either expressed interest in the graveyard/was alive in F5/expressed interest at some point:


    Please let me know if you have any questions about this!! If you weren't in this game and are interested in being a sub, pm me, please!!!

    Current playerlist, bolded have confirmed in the past week:


    1. Beck - Chemist1422
    2. DaveDob - Insomnia
    3. dLGN - Sheepsaysmeep
    4. Empoof- Raiden Mei
    5. Five - Garden Gnome
    6. Lissa - Virtuoso
    7. Mantichora- GreenCatKid
    8. MarkoRaj - The Lukundo
    9. Newcomb - Keldeo
    10. Sunbae - Wildfire
    11. SwedishSkumbag - Michelle
    12. Voxxicus - Bunnelby
    13. yogsloth - kears123


    Final playerlist!!!

    Since we have enough people for a 13er and this is a fairly strong playerlist, I'll be going with a simple open slightly mafia-sided 13er setup: 3 mafia goons, 1 even-night tracker, 1 odd-night tracker, and 8 vanilla town! Let me know if you have any questions or concerns about the setup, or anything else!!!

    Game thread with full details will be up shortly, and I'll be randing it sometime late Sunday/early Monday!! Get hyped!!!!!!
    Last edited by Arapocalypse; June 15th, 2019 at 10:14 PM.

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    I’m soooo in!!

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    But participation will be secondary to my champs game if I'm still alive

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    I'd be down to watch if Cory was down to play. Up to him, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMMH (#3717)
    GG all, well played wolves

    I was GG's mentor, tho many of you probably already knew that
    I was very happy with having monster... monstrman, aka MMMH, as my mentor, despite the sad reality of once again randing my least favorite role!!!! (vanilla town)

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    /in I also inned for the colored cops game but don't know when it will start? It's a 12/12 game so should end rather quickly.

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    Noting a few things for the next iteration, in no particular order:


    1. Mentor/mentee setup for the mafia - Like it says on the tin! I wouldn't say that the way it was done here is perfect, as I don't think there really is; still worth tweaking!!!
    2. Pre-game mentee confirmation - Seemed to have a noticeable positive effect on sub rate!!! Not absolutely confirmed to be directly correlated, but worth doing so in the future!!
    3. More extensive pre-game mentor/mentee inquiries - Some pairs could have been matched better, and also could have used a few nudges one way or the other, or both! Thinking to ask questions about what mentees want to get out of it, and what they can improve on and stuff!! Similarly, ask mentors about how they're considering going about mentoring; probably not as much of an effect as for mentees, but can still be useful! Basically, taking parts out of the survey and simply leaving in timezone stuff... or maybe move the entire surveys into individual inquiry stuff? Food for thought!!
    4. Meta - Asking mentees for a past game or two to give to mentors, so that they can get a sense of the mentee and what sort of stuff they want improvement on!
    5. Starter questions - From what I could observe, it seemed like some pairs could have used a bit of a nudge to get them going, which makes sense as this isn't really an intuitive thing! Regardless of alignment, maybe just toss some general questions at the beginning of threads such as what do you struggle with in games, what do you want to improve on, what's your playstyle like/how have you played in the past, how do you want to begin with the day/what's your gameplan? While that was generally gradually covered by people, it may help mentor/mentees in order to get directly into it and stuff as a starting point - these questions would also be posted publicly!
    6. Mid-game stuff - I've noticed these games tend to die down a bit towards the middle with many people (both mentors/mentees) losing steam; not too sure what to do about that? Similarly to starter questions, there could be a set of mid-game questions (how do you think the gamestate is going, how do you think you've been playing so far, what do you plan to do going forward), though that's a bit more iffy!! It feels weird to be nudging the game along like that, but maybe they'd need it? To consider!!!
    7. Mentor requests - Check with mentors if there are people they can work with/think they can work with better, though you'd need to be careful not to promise anything to town mentors!
    8. Signup improvements - It might be useful to link to past mentor/mentee chats/threads, and maybe even overall games, just as an example!!
    9. Setup - People like playing with prs, which I get, but also think that mountainous is the most ideal setup for the type of mentor/mentee stuff this is aiming for! However, it wouldn't hurt to have other setups too; nothing closed, but could do some really simple open ones - no D6s or any complicated matrix!!! Maybe something like poisonous 17er? Poison is nice, gives people more playing time... or mountainous arson/poison!!!!!
    10. Activity - Raise post minimum to 10-15, maybe put on a post cap? Would help with the rather wide post disparity! May also want to require posts in mentor/mentee chat!!


    I was typing this out and figured I'd dump it in here, for whenever the next one is run no matter who hosts it! If someone else wants to run it, feel free to go for it!! You can also pm me if you have any questions about any particular point, as this is simply a brief sketch of some thoughts off the top of my head!

    Points may be added to/improved on whenever I feel like it!!
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