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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadaz, voice of the host (#2900)
    I only did the first three voters but I have graphs! Also we’re &@&!ed. http://ibb.co/8DB187bhttp://ibb.co/s2Prq0c two more coming
    Where tf did this come from?

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    Uuuhhhh I'm dumb how do I read this?

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    By the way tsu, no hard feelings, I hope, even though I stabbed you in the back

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    like why are some green and some black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASmiller (#2885)
    This doesn’t really help but Tsunami visited Ryast.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fable (#2904)
    like why are some green and some black?
    green would be ones that had flipped as town

    I assume it hadn't been updated for Tsu yet

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    oops multiquote

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    Do we have any proof miller tracked jade or just him saying he did?

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    Retrospective Day 2 Votecount as of Post #1614

    Post #1614 was originally posted at 4:09 PM EDT on Friday, May 10th, 2019.

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    2 Bedlam Nakuzami, FTFlush
    2 ASmiller Fable, Ryast
    1 Nakuzami Tsunami
    1 Fable Ian The Destroyer
    1 Nadaz, voice of the host Jade Joules
    9 Not voting Soneji, LightFoot, ASmiller, SuperMarioBros, Bedlam, Nadaz, voice of the host, Lone_Garurumon, Heroic, Logic

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    Retrospective Day 3 Votecount as of Post #2272

    Post #2272 was originally posted at 2:39 AM EDT on Monday, May 13th, 2019.

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    3 Jade Joules Fable, Soneji, Logic
    2 Fable Tsunami, Jade Joules
    1 Tsunami Nakuzami
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    Retrospective Day 3 Votecount as of Post #2547

    Post #2547 was originally posted at 10:02 PM EDT on Monday, May 13th, 2019.

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    3 Fable Tsunami, Jade Joules, Nadaz, voice of the host
    2 Jade Joules Soneji, Logic
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    Jade is likely wolf at this point right? And assuming that's correct I want everyone to ISO ryast and ctrl + F for jade and tell me if it's just me or if he's weirdly defensive of her. Like it's been some defense (most of his jade posts from yesterday but also presenting someone else as more wolfy if he does sus her in any way#1845 #2817.

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    Ryast has also never voted for Jade

    something I'm noting in a post I'm making

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    (which I also note bc Ryast has switched votes around a lot)

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    NOBODY VOTE YET

    two townie votes on another townie means scum can quickhammer.

    I’ll be on later, I’m at work right now. I’m still not scum.

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    There is no world where I flip red and FTF doesn't, or where Soneji flips red and Nadaz doesn't.

    So

    FTFlush > Nakuzami
    Nadaz, voice of the host > Soneji

    ASmiller
    Fable
    Heroic
    Jade Joules
    Lone_Garurumon
    Ryast

    Just looking at vote counts

    If we want to assume Jade is scum, then Fable is the only person of the others listed above that has ever voted for her. Ryast/LG/ASm/Heroic have not. Fable has also had votes on ASm and Ryast. Not enough to necessarily clear Fable, but for current assumptions, it's something

    FTFlush > Nakuzami
    Nadaz, voice of the host > Soneji

    ASmiller
    Heroic
    Lone_Garurumon
    Ryast

    Jade Joules > Fable

    Based on some previous interactions, I can see Ryast/LG/ASm as a team.

    Heroic has been absent. I don't really have much info to work them in at this point. I should look at their posts again, though, and specifically interactions with the above players (did Logic do a post on Heroic?)

    FTFlush > Nakuzami
    Nadaz, voice of the host > Soneji

    Heroic

    Jade Joules > Fable
    Lone_Garurumon
    Ryast
    ASmiller

    How does this feel?

    Lemme ask @FTFlush specifically here
    and @Soneji and @Nadaz, voice of the host

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    Do we have any explanations for n1 besides heroic targeting logic?

    This is why people need to claim before they die.

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    I started with the first voters d1 although the votes go through d3, the time they left their vote on someone is indicated by the hours followed by the greater than symbol like 1H< is more than one hour. Next to the names is the number of times they were voted for eg. 2x is two times. Black is unknown alignment and green is flipped town. Here are all the links so far http://ibb.co/8DB187b
    http://ibb.co/s2Prq0c
    http://ibb.co/bKzsQ3g
    http://ibb.co/8Kv7BLW
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    I know I wasn't asked specifically but I still think garurumon has comes off as pretty pure to me which is why I ask about heroic.

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    I'm sure it's been pointed out that we had three doctor claims, and it means that Heroic is either scum or goufbam threw the game. The latter is less fun

    Thing is, people seem convinced that Ian was softing rolecop on Heroic, which would mean Heroic was telling the truth

    The other explanation could be that LG saved Heroic on N1, but . . . that would imply both LG and Heroic are town

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    (which is possible, but that would make the maf Fable/Ryast/ASm/Jade lmao)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuzami (#2921)
    I'm sure it's been pointed out that we had three doctor claims, and it means that Heroic is either scum or goufbam threw the game. The latter is less fun

    Thing is, people seem convinced that Ian was softing rolecop on Heroic, which would mean Heroic was telling the truth

    The other explanation could be that LG saved Heroic on N1, but . . . that would imply both LG and Heroic are town
    oh that does kinda point to a soft clear. I think bedlam was hinting at having an even night role so that rules that out too.

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    Watcher n1 Only Macho
    Watcher n2 Only
    Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja
    Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja
    Vigilante n2 Only
    Vigilante n3 Only
    Doctor n1, n3
    Doctor n2, n4
    Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman
    Tracker n2, n4 1x Strongman
    Jailkeeper n1, n3
    Jailkeeper n2, n4
    Roleblocker n1, n3
    Roleblocker n2, n4
    Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman
    Jack of All Trades
    (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker)
    n1, n2, n3
    Jack of All Trades
    (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur)
    n1, n2, n3
    Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman





    ASmiller Tracker N1, N3
    Fable Vigilante N2
    FTFlush Alignment Cop N3
    goufbam Doctor N1, N3
    Heroic Doctor N1, N3
    Jade Joules Doctor N2, N4
    LightFoot Roleblocker N2, N4
    Logic Watcher N2
    Lone_Garurumon Jack of All Trades (Doc, JK, Voy)
    Nadaz, voice of the host Alignment Cop N2
    Nakuzami Vigilante N3
    Ryast Watcher N1
    Soneji Tracker N2, N4
    Tsunami Jack of All Trades (RC, Track, RB)


    Roles that are missing:
    Roleblocker N1, N3
    Jailkeeper N1, N3
    Jailkeeper N2, N4
    Role Cop
    Voyeur



    Bedlam Jailkeeper N2, N4?
    Ian the Destroyer Rolecop?
    SuperMarioBros

    Since we think Bedlam had a N2 role, that's the only one that would fit.

    idk what SMB might have had, and then there's the mystery of goufbam

    I want to assume that gouf at least claimed his role truthfully, which means Heroic is guaranteed scum (but why Heroic would then claim an already claimed role? no clue)

    As for N1, this could mean that SMB (or even Ian) was a N1 Jailkeeper and protected someone, but not knowing their target (or if they had this role) makes that very unhelpful

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    @Ryast - ETA on being home from work? I'd like to hear your thoughts/excuses soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuzami (#2925)
    @Ryast - ETA on being home from work? I'd like to hear your thoughts/excuses soon
    Heading on break now and then work actually finishes at 10. I should be home in 2 and a bit so I can start looking at stuff.

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    No lynch should always happen with 10 alive.

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    I feel like a lot of you will be asleep so leave me any questions you need me to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryast (#2927)
    No lynch should always happen with 10 alive.
    There's one scenario I agree to with this: Jade protects Soneji tonight so that Soneji can track

    If Soneji dies, we'll know Jade is scum.

    There's no other N4 actions left, so for any other reason, there's not much point to that, since the maf should just target one of the clears

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    I’m back! No point making excuses about last day phase, but rest assured I do not intend to be DQ/replaced for inactivity!

    I see you hating on me Naku, I’m offended you don’t believe me! JK...

    I am town, whether you can believe it or not doesn’t matter at this point.

    Not a single scumflip has occurred, yet a chunk of town is no longer attending these elaborate dinner parties. Not good.

    If mister vig could quit eating town, that’d be great. Last night, I doctored FTF, as Ryast requested. Something I regret as all I read of the previous phase was that post, and I was going to doctor Tsunami.

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    Season 6, Game 2: Deadly Confections [The Mafia Championship] Day 4 Votecount

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    10 Not voting Heroic (1), Jade Joules (1), Soneji (0), Lone_Garurumon (0), Nakuzami (18), FTFlush (10), ASmiller (1), Ryast (4), Nadaz, voice of the host (2), Fable (13)

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    On my way home and I’ll talk when I get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakuzami (#2929)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryast (#2927)
    No lynch should always happen with 10 alive.
    There's one scenario I agree to with this: Jade protects Soneji tonight so that Soneji can track

    If Soneji dies, we'll know Jade is scum.

    There's no other N4 actions left, so for any other reason, there's not much point to that, since the maf should just target one of the clears
    I’m down with this, yeah

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    Season 6, Game 2: Deadly Confections [The Mafia Championship] Day 4 Votecount

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    10 Not voting Heroic (1), Jade Joules (1), Soneji (0), Lone_Garurumon (0), Nakuzami (18), FTFlush (10), ASmiller (1), Ryast (6), Nadaz, voice of the host (2), Fable (13)

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    Ok. Looking at the playerlist, and the results from last night, I’ve got a spicy theory: FTF/Nakuzumi scum.

    Because the only other scumteam I can see would be NADAZ, VOICE OF THE HOST/Soneji or Heroic/Jade/ASmiller/Fable. And I don’t think that’s right for a couple reasons.

    No lynch is still right today.

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    So, from one townflip, that both of them were involved in, Naku and FTF both went from townreading me to almost SHOOTING ME or copping me last night. Both miraculously decided not to, Naku killed town, and FTF copped Naku.

    Naku was pretty much always the next lynch, so town Naku surprises me.

    Naku was originally told to shoot jade. This could point to jade being scum, or it could mean that Naku just wanted to shoot the more active/prominent townie.

    The kills of all the past nights don’t point to a strongman being mafia at all. Can’t have been used n1, because they got roleblocked. N2 they went for Ian, instead of me or (if he’s town) FTF. N3 they go for logic instead of (again, if he’s town which I doubt) going to FTF. So ASmiller is probably town based on that, or at the very least is never scum with FTF.

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    Season 6, Game 2: Deadly Confections [The Mafia Championship] Day 4 Votecount

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    10 Not voting Heroic (1), Jade Joules (1), Soneji (0), Lone_Garurumon (0), Nakuzami (18), FTFlush (10), ASmiller (1), Ryast (8), Nadaz, voice of the host (2), Fable (13)

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    NADAZ, VOICE OF THE HOST is town for good reasons, and Soneji is town because of them.

    Garurumon is town because of general townie town and posts, having generally good reads but not trying to force himself into the main stage. So not “power”wolfy enough because of the lack of power, and not coasting because of a couple really strong posts. He hit the sweet spot, basically.

    Heroic I’m still strongly believing to be town. The recent catchup post (vig, stop hitting town instead of vigs) implies to me he actually doesn’t know what the vigs are in this setup, which makes me think he isn’t scum with fable and Naku. And I believe the Naku scumteam.

    So sitting at nadaz, Soneji, garu, heroic, Asmiller, and me all town actually.

    Which would mean a FTF/Naku/Fable/Jade team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryast (#2938)
    NADAZ, VOICE OF THE HOST is town for good reasons, and Soneji is town because of them.

    Garurumon is town because of general townie town and posts, having generally good reads but not trying to force himself into the main stage. So not “power”wolfy enough because of the lack of power, and not coasting because of a couple really strong posts. He hit the sweet spot, basically.

    Heroic I’m still strongly believing to be town. The recent catchup post (vig, stop hitting town instead of vigs) implies to me he actually doesn’t know what the vigs are in this setup, which makes me think he isn’t scum with fable and Naku. And I believe the Naku scumteam.

    So sitting at nadaz, Soneji, garu, heroic, Asmiller, and me all town actually.

    Which would mean a FTF/Naku/Fable/Jade team.
    So tell me why those 4 isn’t right. Why I’ve cleared someone for the wrong reasons.

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    My biggest doubt there is FTF, which would mean Naku. I’ve been townreading him all game but have had a nagging feeling it’s been too easily

    His d3 was really strong if he’s scum. I don’t really know why he’d be doing that as scum other than just solidifying it and for potential champs style points.

    It did feel solve-y. So after these late night thoughts I need to revisit those.

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    I feel like the only two teams I want to look at right now are the one I proposed or Heroic/Jade/Fale/ASmiller.

    And for reasons i’ve explained the latter is less likely

    FTF is a really solid player. He can make people TR him when he’s scum. He’s got an award beside his name that says as much.

    It’s literally just PoE being essentially broken by this that makes me look back st this.

    And i’ll need to convince every single one of the rest of you, but first I’d like @Fable @nakuzumi @FTFlush and @Jade Joules to propose a scumteam. It can have me in it if you want. Just tell me what you think is the most likely team rn.

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    I realize that this looks like a massive 180 on FTF, because t is. But I see this scum team as more likely than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryast (#2941)
    I feel like the only two teams I want to look at right now are the one I proposed or Heroic/Jade/Fale/ASmiller.

    And for reasons i’ve explained the latter is less likely

    FTF is a really solid player. He can make people TR him when he’s scum. He’s got an award beside his name that says as much.

    It’s literally just PoE being essentially broken by this that makes me look back st this.

    And i’ll need to convince every single one of the rest of you, but first I’d like @Fable @nakuzumi @FTFlush and @Jade Joules to propose a scumteam. It can have me in it if you want. Just tell me what you think is the most likely team rn.
    @nakuzumi

    My bad

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    Season 6, Game 2: Deadly Confections [The Mafia Championship] Day 4 Votecount

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    10 Not voting Heroic (1), Jade Joules (1), Soneji (0), Lone_Garurumon (0), Nakuzami (18), FTFlush (10), ASmiller (1), Ryast (14), Nadaz, voice of the host (2), Fable (13)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryast (#2941)
    I feel like the only two teams I want to look at right now are the one I proposed or Heroic/Jade/Fale/ASmiller.

    And for reasons i’ve explained the latter is less likely

    FTF is a really solid player. He can make people TR him when he’s scum. He’s got an award beside his name that says as much.

    It’s literally just PoE being essentially broken by this that makes me look back st this.

    And i’ll need to convince every single one of the rest of you, but first I’d like @Fable @nakuzumi @FTFlush and @Jade Joules to propose a scumteam. It can have me in it if you want. Just tell me what you think is the most likely team rn.
    @Nakuzami

    Literally the same mistake .-.

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    I was considering waiting until tomorrow because I figured that the kill could possibly clear jade/ASmiller, or prove me wrong if it’s on FTF

    Kill going on Soneji would out ASmiller as a strongman, scum never goes Soneji even if jade is mafia

    but I have to get this out here just in case. I think jade is more likely than AS as well.

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    We’re going to be in a constant state of either MYLO or LYLO.

    Which means we need to solve for the entire scumteam.

    And right now I think that FTF/fable/Naku/Jade is our best shot.

    @Nadaz, voice of the host
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    @ASmiller

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    Looking back on votes I’m actually slightly warming up to ASmiller as scum instead of jade

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    Jade has been pushing the scum fable line fairly hard and they’ve been GETTING pushed by most of the rest of the players on that team.

    Could be bussing but why bus there

    Need to look back on what they think of ASmiller, which I’ll do tomorrow.

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    ISOs are broken

    It says that Naku/FTF/Fable have 19 pages but I can’t get past page 16

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