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    Empath 13er (36/12, starts Mon 20th May)

    Empath 13er


    Hosted By: Apoc & Chemist1422

    Start Date: Monday, May 20th.

    Phase lengths: 12/12 or 36/12
    Day Start: 8:00 AM EST
    Day End: 8:00 PM EST

    Lynch Mechanics: Deadline Lynch. Ties are randomized. Majority Lynch from Day 2 onward.


    This game is a variation on a Cop 13er. Instead of a Cop/Seer there is an Empath.


    The Empath Role

    The Empath has no Night Action.

    On Night 0, the Empath will be given the names of two random players, and will be told if they are the SAME or DIFFERENT alignments (parity check).

    E.g. "Apoc and Panther are the SAME alignment."

    If one of these two players dies, then on the following night, the empath will get a new parity check with the dead player's name being replaced by a random living player.

    E.g.
    On Day 1, Apoc is lynched
    On Night 1, the Empath will get a new result: "Beck and Panther are DIFFERENT alignments".

    Apoc was replaced by Beck, and a new check between Beck/Panther was given.


    Detailed Empath mechanics are in this spoiler:


    The player list will be randomized.

    Apoc
    Thor
    Stark
    Hulk
    Widow
    Hawk
    Loki
    Spider
    Strange
    Marvel
    Fury


    Every night, starting Night 0, the Empath will be given a parity check on the two living players closest to them on this list. The first and last spots on the list are considered adjacent.

    Example:
    If Stark was the Empath, he would be given a check on Thor and Hulk ("same" or "different").
    If Hulk is lynched on Day 1, then on Night 1 Stark's check would be on Thor and Widow.
    If Thor were to be killed on Night 1, then Stark would only have one living peek until Night 2.


    I see two ways of running the setup.

    Standard: The randomized list is secret, only I know what it is. This gives less ways to PoE wolves via mechanical info, and also provides more freedom for Seer Empath cover and wolf counter claims.

    Mechanical: The randomized list is public. Your cover/peeks are chosen for you and always public. It might be easier for the wolves to find the Empath based on their own placements in the list, but it is probably also possible to reverse engineer the wolf Night Kills to find players who are more likely to be wolves based on this.
    Leaving cover will be less necessary, since everyone knows your peeks.
    Overall the game will be more mechanical.
    I do think it might add an interesting dynamic, where each player is keenly interested in solving a specific two players so they can leave accurate cover.


    I strongly prefer running the Standard version first because it's more in keeping with a Cop 13er. But I will run both next week if there is enough interest for that



    Random Notes
    - Because the PR always has 2 peeks and only 2 peeks, CCing them and leaving them alive is far more viable than in a Cop 13er.
    - I have no idea if leaving Cover is optimal or what the best way to do it is
    - It probably runs fine as either 13er or 14er? I can't decide.



    Scum Team

    The scum team will have a factional NK and a Role Cop.



    Empath Role PM

    Hello PlayerName

    You are the Town Empath.

    You know that Player1 and Player2 are the same alignment.

    If one of these players dies (e.g. Player2), then on the following Night Phase you will receive a new parity check comparing your living check (e.g. Player1) and another random living player.

    This role is passive, you never need to submit a night action.



    Participation:
    I'm not going to set a minimum post count, but decent participation is expected regardless of your given alignment. If you are not playing the game, you will be replaced.



    1) Alison
    2) Limestone
    3) Alice Liddell
    4) Thunal33
    5) Waywardson
    6) Marluxion
    7) bobbyb85
    8) Viggorous
    9) MalloN
    10) insomnia
    11) Percy
    12) AndrewGreve
    13) Phighter



    1)
    2) Transcend
    3) Raiden Mei
    4) Michelle
    5) Kears123



    1) Cracklesnap
    2)
    3)
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    Updated OP to add 36/12 option

    Pls state preference for 12/12 or 36/12 when you /in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#2)
    @Chemist1422

    Still good to do EoD flips?
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    mfw you accidentally sell your soul for a modpeek
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    This will be my first game here, it sounds interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbyb85 (#14)
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    Robert Baratheon? Is that you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (#1916)
    u are the imbecile for wanting to lynch me after that d1

    just please never call yourself
    VIGGOAT or whatever that $#@! you say

    cuz it's really not true not at all after your recent performances and you must feel it

    or are you just spite killing me like you did RC?

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    I´m in ^^ will be my first game on this forum and my secon english game

    Oh and btw: I am EST + 6 hours so the days end will be at 2 am for me, meaning that i might not be able to contribute...
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    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
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    Last edited by Percy; May 15th, 2019 at 04:37 PM.
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#18)
    I´m in ^^ will be my first game on this forum and my secon english game

    Oh and btw: I am EST + 6 hours so the days end will be at 2 am for me, meaning that i might not be able to contribute...
    @MalloN: Welcome to the game, my friend! In terms of your time zone issues (that I also usually experience - although to a lesser extent) and your remark about this being second English game, may I ask where it is you come from?
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#18)
    I´m in ^^ will be my first game on this forum and my secon english game

    Oh and btw: I am EST + 6 hours so the days end will be at 2 am for me, meaning that i might not be able to contribute...
    @MalloN: Welcome to the game, my friend! In terms of your time zone issues (that I also usually experience - although to a lesser extent) and your remark about this being second English game, may I ask where it is you come from?
    Hey @Percy (how does mentioning work btw xD nvm I found out) thanks for the warm welcome, I am from Germany (and have only played Mafia in German besides the aforementioned game)
    Last edited by MalloN; May 15th, 2019 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunal33 (#10)
    /in

    This will be my first game here, it sounds interesting.
    Welcome, @Thunal33! I think it’s great that we are having the closest thing to gender-equity that I’ve seen in a game here. I see that you are a PerC too! I look forward to playing this game with you, my friend!
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbyb85 (#14)
    /in 36/12
    Welcome to the game @Bobbyb85!
    Last edited by Percy; May 15th, 2019 at 04:46 PM.
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
    - Askthepizzaguy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#25)
    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#18)
    I´m in ^^ will be my first game on this forum and my secon english game

    Oh and btw: I am EST + 6 hours so the days end will be at 2 am for me, meaning that i might not be able to contribute...
    @MalloN: Welcome to the game, my friend! In terms of your time zone issues (that I also usually experience - although to a lesser extent) and your remark about this being second English game, may I ask where it is you come from?
    Hey @Percy (how does mentioning work btw xD nvm I found out) thanks for the warm welcome, I am from Germany (and have only played Mafia in German besides the aforementioned game)
    @MalloN: Germany? That’s cool! If you need a hand with anything, please let me know - I’ll be only too happy to help you out.
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
    - Askthepizzaguy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#25)
    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#18)
    I´m in ^^ will be my first game on this forum and my secon english game

    Oh and btw: I am EST + 6 hours so the days end will be at 2 am for me, meaning that i might not be able to contribute...
    @MalloN: Welcome to the game, my friend! In terms of your time zone issues (that I also usually experience - although to a lesser extent) and your remark about this being second English game, may I ask where it is you come from?
    Hey @Percy (how does mentioning work btw xD nvm I found out) thanks for the warm welcome, I am from Germany (and have only played Mafia in German besides the aforementioned game)
    I'll have the same issue. I'm UK based, but figured with the pacing, I can still contribute early in the phases if need be.

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    I too will be asleep during EoD

    Thats why Chemist is here

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    Hi All,

    So with Champs games going on we have lots of new faces in games (which is great! )

    Welcome to MU, i hope you enjoy the game!


    The only downside, is that i don't know how reliable some of you are

    In my last game i asked the newcomers to promise they were up to it and would not flake on me, and they all assured me they were ready.

    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...=1#post3150721


    Quote Originally Posted by CerealKiller (#30)
    Not a problem for me
    Quote Originally Posted by Chingles2404 (#32)
    thanks, i should be fine though, ive played a few games here before so im aware of the rigour
    Quote Originally Posted by Flake (#41)
    I think I should be fine with this, I'm used to not having much info to solve in past games and I should have enough time to keep up


    Then i had to sub out three of them



    So, i won't ask for promises this time


    I will just leave this warning here:

    If it seems like you are going to no-show, if you have made no posts in the first 30 or so hours of Day 1...i will sub you out before Day 1 even ends!
    Last edited by Apoc; May 16th, 2019 at 04:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#34)
    Hi All,

    So with Champs games going on we have lots of new faces in games (which is great! )

    Welcome to MU, i hope you enjoy the game!


    The only downside, is that i don't know how reliable some of you are

    In my last game i asked the newcomers to promise they were up to it and would not flake on me, and they all assured me they were ready.

    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...=1#post3150721


    Quote Originally Posted by CerealKiller (#30)
    Not a problem for me
    Quote Originally Posted by Chingles2404 (#32)
    thanks, i should be fine though, ive played a few games here before so im aware of the rigour
    Quote Originally Posted by Flake (#41)
    I think I should be fine with this, I'm used to not having much info to solve in past games and I should have enough time to keep up


    Then i had to sub out three of them



    So, i won't ask for promises this time


    I will just leave this warning here:

    If it seems like you are going to no-show, if you have made no posts in the first 30 or so hours of Day 1...i will sub you out before Day 1 even ends!
    @Apoc: I’m sure they’ll be fine - they seem a nice bunch
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
    - Askthepizzaguy

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    So did the last crew Percy!

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    @Apoc trust me, I promise, i swear....okay i know what you mean xD but in the ~60 games I have played so far on all servers I haven´t been kicked due to inactivity at any (except for one, in which i was sent to hospital in an emergency so i couldn´t tell anyone...).

    Another question: Can anyone tell me how to turn on some sort of postnotification? I already figured out how to subscribe to a thread but it doesn´t send me notifications smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalloN (#39)
    @Apoc trust me, I promise, i swear....okay i know what you mean xD but in the ~60 games I have played so far on all servers I haven´t been kicked due to inactivity at any (except for one, in which i was sent to hospital in an emergency so i couldn´t tell anyone...).

    Another question: Can anyone tell me how to turn on some sort of postnotification? I already figured out how to subscribe to a thread but it doesn´t send me notifications smh
    Thanks MalloN!

    I have wondered myself why subscriptions don't create forum notifications, maybe i'll ask someone
    Last edited by Apoc; May 16th, 2019 at 10:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#26)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunal33 (#10)
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    This will be my first game here, it sounds interesting.
    Welcome, @Thunal33! I think it’s great that we are having the closest thing to gender-equity that I’ve seen in a game here. I see that you are a PerC too! I look forward to playing this game with you, my friend!
    Thank you for the warm welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#37)
    So did the last crew Percy!
    @Apoc: Be that as it may, I’ll confess to being rather hyped at the prospect of this game. Yes, I expect the same idiocy as always from players here that are suspicious of my tone and behaviour but these new people really seem friendly so I hope we don’t lose any early...
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
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    Mafia is a real world game. The situations in Mafia are real, and one can not use anything but oneself. It is life. Very dense life. Look at it this way - Mafia are zombies, they are not free, they are bound by their knowledge of each other and a need to eliminate others. Citizens are free to make their own bounds. If you learn to do it well, then you could find zombies (people with alliance with past) in real life and turn them over to your side of the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal (#153)
    Well am here not here sorta-kinda asleep but kinda not 3 expresso shots was too much so let me think of something to entertain you most likely won't and will just pass out the second the expresso wears off, to be honest

    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#15)
    I'll get right on downloading the PM's directly into your brain.

    Coming on Christmas 2040.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kears123 (#45)
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    @Apoc: Why is it that games always start here on a Monday UTC (that’s Tuesday for me). The week normally starts on a Sunday on most calendars...? What I’m saying here is - I can’t wait to start this game!
    I just wanted to take one final opportunity to remind people why that higher standard exists. I know it can be difficult to live up to, especially in the heat of the moment... I know it is difficult and we're all only human. But the reward is a better site, a better community, and games where you actually want to sign up to the next one when the current game is done. People you actually look forward to playing with. Maybe even making friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#47)
    @Apoc: Why is it that games always start here on a Monday UTC (that’s Tuesday for me). The week normally starts on a Sunday on most calendars...? What I’m saying here is - I can’t wait to start this game!
    Which unholy heathen land would start the week on a Sunday? :O
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (#1916)
    u are the imbecile for wanting to lynch me after that d1

    just please never call yourself
    VIGGOAT or whatever that $#@! you say

    cuz it's really not true not at all after your recent performances and you must feel it

    or are you just spite killing me like you did RC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#47)
    @Apoc: Why is it that games always start here on a Monday UTC (that’s Tuesday for me). The week normally starts on a Sunday on most calendars...? What I’m saying here is - I can’t wait to start this game!
    People are busy with their families and stuff on Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#49)
    Quote Originally Posted by Percy (#47)
    @Apoc: Why is it that games always start here on a Monday UTC (that’s Tuesday for me). The week normally starts on a Sunday on most calendars...? What I’m saying here is - I can’t wait to start this game!
    People are busy with their families and stuff on Sunday
    Why you gotta flex like that?
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (#1916)
    u are the imbecile for wanting to lynch me after that d1

    just please never call yourself
    VIGGOAT or whatever that $#@! you say

    cuz it's really not true not at all after your recent performances and you must feel it

    or are you just spite killing me like you did RC?

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Mugger

The Mugger is a mafia-aligned player that will gain the ability of any player killed by the mafia if they are the one carrying out the kill. The gained ability can be used only once by the Mugger on any future night, but the Mugger cannot kill and use a gained ability on the same night.