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    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#49)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#27)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#18)
    Also a strong opening but without the strategy laid out.
    A good amount of energy in your posts, but by your own admission that doesn't mean a whole lot. What I'm curious about is why you're responding with prose and self-reflection. Do you want to be meta read?
    Any method of reading me you feel is valid is the method you can use.
    What about the method where someone has TMI and knows who all the wolves are?

    Doesnt seem like you're too concerned with that atm?
    Correct.

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    Apoc, have you played with Askthepizzaguy before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#50)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#42)
    It is important to me that people read me. How, is less important.
    how is all that matters

    It tells you who the wolves are
    This post has an agenda, so why is that?

    Putting pressure on me, or just a wolf. Time will tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#51)
    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?
    Plans?

    Do I really look like a guy with a plan?

    The mob has plans. Gordon's got plans. Pizza even has plans.

    Wait.

    Okay, I have a plan, but I already fired that lazar. Everything else I am winging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#54)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#50)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#42)
    It is important to me that people read me. How, is less important.
    how is all that matters

    It tells you who the wolves are
    This post has an agenda, so why is that?

    Putting pressure on me, or just a wolf. Time will tell!
    That's interesting. Can you explain?

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    The post read a bit as though Apoc was deliberately misunderstanding the overall point I was making, which is that different people have different methods, and it looked as though he was trying to argue that I was saying that the process itself doesn't matter, and the process is how we catch wolves.

    While true, it also requires deliberate misinterpretation of my own statement. And is thus, disingenuous.

    I don't know Apoc enough to say how he would play this game as town or as mafia, I just know when someone isn't being on the level.

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    Kinda curious why he thinks I have a plan for reading him as well.

    That's kind of out of left field. Maybe he can explain it.

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    Why should you put pineapple on pizza when you can put anything else like mozzarella, cheese, sausage...? (yes, I am neapolitan if you were wondering)

    By the way I feel either excited and scared. Excited by the fact that I never played with international players. Scared because I don't know if my play style can fit this competitivo and also because I am not that good at mafia. We will see.

    I am not the kind of player that writes walls of text, I usually write short post. I dislike long ones because they are 50% rubbish. This will probably be the longest post I'll write.
    Let's have Fun!

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    Are these offhand comments we can nitpick to death or is he wolfing. Not gonna snap judge the man this early but it's giving me vibes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tartina (#59)
    Why should you put pineapple on pizza when you can put anything else like mozzarella, cheese, sausage...? (yes, I am neapolitan if you were wondering)

    By the way I feel either excited and scared. Excited by the fact that I never played with international players. Scared because I don't know if my play style can fit this competitivo and also because I am not that good at mafia. We will see.

    I am not the kind of player that writes walls of text, I usually write short post. I dislike long ones because they are 50% rubbish. This will probably be the longest post I'll write.
    Let's have Fun!
    I wish to quote myself. Sorry for this as it isnt game relevant.


    What makes a good werewolf player?

    I have noticed over the years that players seem to be under the mistaken impression that they need to win oodles of games and/or win as werewolf and/or lynch all the scums as villager and/or never lynch villagers as villager in order to be a decent player.

    I think I touched on this a bit before my first game here on this forum.

    Okay, let us imagine this ideal werewolf player. They only accuse the wolves as villager, they never accuse villagers as villager, and they always win as wolf. Somehow. They win 90 percent of the games they play. They've been playing for 10 years.

    Now let us imagine they have no further redeeming or endearing qualities. They don't really converse with their fellow players, they have no sense of humor, they think little of everyone else's earnest efforts, and they take the game personally. They also drop from games for no reason without explanation.

    Is this person a good werewolf player?

    No.

    They might be skilled, but they aren't a good player.

    A good player, let us imagine him or her for a second. The ideal good werewolf player.

    They are wrong sometimes and right sometimes. (That's pretty much everyone.)
    They want to share the game experience with other players, and get involved by conversing with the rest of the players, on their team or not.
    They have a sense of humor or can appreciate others' attempts at humor.
    They don't take it personally if you're wrong about them, or lose the game for their team.
    They sign up for games only if they truly intend to give it their best effort.
    They notify game hosts when they need to drop, with a reason why, preferably.
    They are at least aware of the vote tally when one has been posted, and aware of when the round ends, and try to make decisions that help their team.

    And that's it.

    They don't need to be particularly good at accusing anyone. They don't need to be accurate. They don't need to be a leader, or extremely talkative.

    It is, at the last, a guessing game between friends, a casual experience. Some really put in the effort and try to find all the wolves themselves, but that is not a requirement.

    If you show up and try, and you keep things in perspective, and you notify game hosts when you can't play anymore, and it's not an every game thing where you need to drop out, then you are a good player.

    I'd rather play with 20 good players than one "skilled" player who has no other redeeming qualities.

    So please, take that to heart.


    You are here. You're willing to play by the rules and guess who the mafia are or try to fool us if you are mafia.

    Show up, do your best. You are good at mafia if you do that.

    Old farts like me lose games all the time. I lost every game I played in 2017. I am here, because fate has a sense of humor.

    You belong here. And you're right, half of my walls are rubbish.

    See, GH? This guy gets it.

    Some of my paragraphs are pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#16)
    Someone from Hattrick.org I guess couldn't be here.

    A different .org was provided.
    Ayy I'm repping Hattrick.org my Norwegian neighbor and gratz on the coming baby too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#51)
    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?
    I chose not to respond to this question until Askthepizzaguy did in case there was some strategic purpose to it.

    However, this question is really insubstantial. What was it you tried to accomplish by asking it?

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    Ing system, had a post - it deaded because i was not logged in.

    Hi people !

    disclaimer: have not read the big pizza post, wont read it unless it becomes meta or he flips scum, seems like a waste of space.

    apoc is my opening bid for a scummy player - his "scared" post seems fishy, a scum is scared of being caught, a townie is not concerned with this stuff, or would be happy to have someone they consider strong on their team - this suggests TMI, and maybe a slip.

    dendrek seems like my kinda guy, i echo his toughts on pizzas way of posting.

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    I'll be at work for another few hours but I'll probably keep an eye on this just because I can't stay away

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    @Lissa you completely omitted my bio, and the name of player 11, on the bio post

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    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#62)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#16)
    Someone from Hattrick.org I guess couldn't be here.

    A different .org was provided.
    Ayy I'm repping Hattrick.org my Norwegian neighbor and gratz on the coming baby too
    There was a Hattrick from like, Spain, I think? Two Hattricks scheduled for this game, one subbed out suddenly. One Spain, one Sweden.

    If we had a third one, insert obvious joke here. Hi-five myself.

    And thanks! I am actually an American citizen, wife is Norwegian. But I am over here in Norway now permanently. Wave to you.

    I am not sure why there were two Hattricks. My guess is it is a large community.

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    I think that askpizzaguy has been misunderstood and accused by ....apoc or dendrake, i don't remember, for the wrong reason. Pizza said that he wants to be read. I don't think that pizza said something like "I don't care how players read me, mafia, vanille whatever": I think that if he would say something like this, it would have been stupid and nonsense.

    By the way I like the way Dendrake puts pressure on players. To me it means acting vanilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sothys (#64)
    Ing system, had a post - it deaded because i was not logged in.

    Hi people !

    disclaimer: have not read the big pizza post, wont read it unless it becomes meta or he flips scum, seems like a waste of space.

    apoc is my opening bid for a scummy player - his "scared" post seems fishy, a scum is scared of being caught, a townie is not concerned with this stuff, or would be happy to have someone they consider strong on their team - this suggests TMI, and maybe a slip.

    dendrek seems like my kinda guy, i echo his toughts on pizzas way of posting.
    Sothys also with the wolfy avatar, NOATED.

    Disclaimer: I have to work hard not to be a waste of space. And even then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#69)
    Quote Originally Posted by sothys (#64)
    Ing system, had a post - it deaded because i was not logged in.

    Hi people !

    disclaimer: have not read the big pizza post, wont read it unless it becomes meta or he flips scum, seems like a waste of space.

    apoc is my opening bid for a scummy player - his "scared" post seems fishy, a scum is scared of being caught, a townie is not concerned with this stuff, or would be happy to have someone they consider strong on their team - this suggests TMI, and maybe a slip.

    dendrek seems like my kinda guy, i echo his toughts on pizzas way of posting.
    Sothys also with the wolfy avatar, NOATED.

    Disclaimer: I have to work hard not to be a waste of space. And even then.
    Not saying you are a waste of space, just the pizza game post :P

    my avatar is the same as the one i use on the forum i represent. Fun fact though - Apoc has the same avatar is that forums main mod.

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    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by mendel (#66)
    @Lissa you completely omitted my bio, and the name of player 11, on the bio post
    Hi mendel. Unfortunately you're only here in name. Without a bio to over analyze, can we even be sure you really exist? But assuming you aren't a figment of my imagination, any thoughts so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#53)
    Apoc, have you played with Askthepizzaguy before?
    Only once

    But i know him from other things

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    Saving other people the trouble of trawling games:

    Askthepizzaguy scum oppening:
    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...xhibition-Game

    Askthepizzaguy vanilla opening
    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...ionship-Finale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#55)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#51)
    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?
    Plans?

    Do I really look like a guy with a plan?

    The mob has plans. Gordon's got plans. Pizza even has plans.

    Wait.

    Okay, I have a plan, but I already fired that lazar. Everything else I am winging.
    You wrote a five paragraph intro

    So ya, i'd like you to have a plan for finding the wolves


    Doesnt seem like you care who the wolves are.


    This is quite problematic. I'm not sure how you usually "clear yourself" but in my experience it typically involves caring who the wolves are and working to root them out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#71)
    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun
    What are you the definition of again?

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    And if im pressuring you its because you are posting a lot of words but none of them matter so far (as far as proving to me that you're town)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#73)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#53)
    Apoc, have you played with Askthepizzaguy before?
    Only once

    But i know him from other things
    Pics -- is what I would ask for if I had a dirty mind. Which I do. So please provide them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#76)
    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#71)
    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun
    What are you the definition of again?
    Lmao actually the name was DefinitionOfAutism until the moderators found it problematic, and they renamed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sothys (#70)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#69)
    Quote Originally Posted by sothys (#64)
    Ing system, had a post - it deaded because i was not logged in.

    Hi people !

    disclaimer: have not read the big pizza post, wont read it unless it becomes meta or he flips scum, seems like a waste of space.

    apoc is my opening bid for a scummy player - his "scared" post seems fishy, a scum is scared of being caught, a townie is not concerned with this stuff, or would be happy to have someone they consider strong on their team - this suggests TMI, and maybe a slip.

    dendrek seems like my kinda guy, i echo his toughts on pizzas way of posting.
    Sothys also with the wolfy avatar, NOATED.

    Disclaimer: I have to work hard not to be a waste of space. And even then.
    Not saying you are a waste of space, just the pizza game post :P

    my avatar is the same as the one i use on the forum i represent. Fun fact though - Apoc has the same avatar is that forums main mod.
    You could totally tell me that I am a waste of space, baby I know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#57)
    The post read a bit as though Apoc was deliberately misunderstanding the overall point I was making, which is that different people have different methods, and it looked as though he was trying to argue that I was saying that the process itself doesn't matter, and the process is how we catch wolves.

    While true, it also requires deliberate misinterpretation of my own statement. And is thus, disingenuous.

    I don't know Apoc enough to say how he would play this game as town or as mafia, I just know when someone isn't being on the level.
    You seem more interested in yourself, to the point you seem wholly unconcerned with who the wolves are

    None of your posts convey that you are intent on finding them

    Even surface level self meta posts and NAI walls, i would expect some hint of a curious brain underneath

    I am simply looking for it



    For one, you talk a lot about how you see yourself bwing read by others. You are equal opportunity, whatever works...but nowhere does it enter your head to consider the alignments of those people making reads on you?

    E.g.
    "Typically people make reads on me these ways, I'm happy with whatever works for you...but the people who do it [this way] tend to be wolves"

    Useful self-meta VS not


    If you see what im getting at

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    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#71)
    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun
    Welcome frand.

    Addicted to mafia, your bio says. Tell me about something that happened that got you hooked.

    As a fellow addict, I love to hear about stuff like that. And it helps me get to know you and understand you better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#58)
    Kinda curious why he thinks I have a plan for reading him as well.

    That's kind of out of left field. Maybe he can explain it.
    Well, we cant really go into it

    But i would say yourself, thingyman, and other people running large events in the "Other Games" section have a unique view into my personal psyche

    I was just wondering if it had occurred to you to use that at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by sothys (#74)
    Saving other people the trouble of trawling games:

    Askthepizzaguy scum oppening:
    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...xhibition-Game

    Askthepizzaguy vanilla opening
    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...ionship-Finale
    Impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tartina (#59)
    Why should you put pineapple on pizza when you can put anything else like mozzarella, cheese, sausage...? (yes, I am neapolitan if you were wondering)

    By the way I feel either excited and scared. Excited by the fact that I never played with international players. Scared because I don't know if my play style can fit this competitivo and also because I am not that good at mafia. We will see.

    I am not the kind of player that writes walls of text, I usually write short post. I dislike long ones because they are 50% rubbish. This will probably be the longest post I'll write.
    Let's have Fun!
    Pineapple forever!

    Hawaiin pizza

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#82)
    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#71)
    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun
    Welcome frand.

    Addicted to mafia, your bio says. Tell me about something that happened that got you hooked.

    As a fellow addict, I love to hear about stuff like that. And it helps me get to know you and understand you better.
    Lmao I didn't realise people actually read the bio, else i would have written more to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#57)
    the overall point I was making, which is that different people have different methods,
    Some methods are wolfier than others

    I guess is the point i was trying to make. I suppose want/expect you to be thinking about which ones and why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#75)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#55)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#51)
    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?
    Plans?

    Do I really look like a guy with a plan?

    The mob has plans. Gordon's got plans. Pizza even has plans.

    Wait.

    Okay, I have a plan, but I already fired that lazar. Everything else I am winging.
    You wrote a five paragraph intro

    So ya, i'd like you to have a plan for finding the wolves


    Doesnt seem like you care who the wolves are.


    This is quite problematic. I'm not sure how you usually "clear yourself" but in my experience it typically involves caring who the wolves are and working to root them out
    Ahhhhhhh you're really wolfing APOC

    Oh that's a shame, bro.

    I forgive you. It's not your fault. Fate really does have a sense of humor, this is hysterical to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#86)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#82)
    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#71)
    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun
    Welcome frand.

    Addicted to mafia, your bio says. Tell me about something that happened that got you hooked.

    As a fellow addict, I love to hear about stuff like that. And it helps me get to know you and understand you better.
    Lmao I didn't realise people actually read the bio, else i would have written more to it
    I had to force myself to stop, otherwise who knows how long mine would have been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#60)
    Are these offhand comments we can nitpick to death or is he wolfing. Not gonna snap judge the man this early but it's giving me vibes.
    I'd prefer if you made a judgement


    Let us into your brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#83)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#58)
    Kinda curious why he thinks I have a plan for reading him as well.

    That's kind of out of left field. Maybe he can explain it.
    Well, we cant really go into it

    But i would say yourself, thingyman, and other people running large events in the "Other Games" section have a unique view into my personal psyche

    I was just wondering if it had occurred to you to use that at all
    That's total crap and you know it.

    Oh man. You're killing me with this.

    Hugs you though. If you wanna keep going with this I will get my popcorn out. You're pushing the agenda too hard, that's why it's all wrong.

    There's no way you're on the level here. Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#63)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#51)
    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?
    I chose not to respond to this question until Askthepizzaguy did in case there was some strategic purpose to it.

    However, this question is really insubstantial. What was it you tried to accomplish by asking it?
    I was trying to make him talk about who the wolves are or might be or what his plans are for findig them

    Apparently he has none!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#91)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#83)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#58)
    Kinda curious why he thinks I have a plan for reading him as well.

    That's kind of out of left field. Maybe he can explain it.
    Well, we cant really go into it

    But i would say yourself, thingyman, and other people running large events in the "Other Games" section have a unique view into my personal psyche

    I was just wondering if it had occurred to you to use that at all
    That's total crap and you know it.

    Oh man. You're killing me with this.

    Hugs you though. If you wanna keep going with this I will get my popcorn out. You're pushing the agenda too hard, that's why it's all wrong.

    There's no way you're on the level here. Come on.
    How confident are you in your ability to read Apoc? And how confident are you that he's scum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#89)
    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#86)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#82)
    Quote Originally Posted by Definition (#71)
    Whats up guys.
    Looking forward to have a great game
    Lets have fun
    Welcome frand.

    Addicted to mafia, your bio says. Tell me about something that happened that got you hooked.

    As a fellow addict, I love to hear about stuff like that. And it helps me get to know you and understand you better.
    Lmao I didn't realise people actually read the bio, else i would have written more to it
    I had to force myself to stop, otherwise who knows how long mine would have been?

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    [QUOTE=Apoc;3237393]
    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#63)
    Apparently he has none!?
    I cant tell if that's alignment indicative though


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    We need to add this smiley to MU's smiley list, maybe slightly smaller (or bigger)



    The code should be : Apoc :

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    Quote Originally Posted by sothys (#64)
    Ing system, had a post - it deaded because i was not logged in.

    Hi people !

    disclaimer: have not read the big pizza post, wont read it unless it becomes meta or he flips scum, seems like a waste of space.

    apoc is my opening bid for a scummy player - his "scared" post seems fishy, a scum is scared of being caught, a townie is not concerned with this stuff, or would be happy to have someone they consider strong on their team - this suggests TMI, and maybe a slip.

    dendrek seems like my kinda guy, i echo his toughts on pizzas way of posting.
    1. That post is a joke. Dr.Chaotix is a fictional & evil megolamaniac.
    Im not scared of pizza he's a lovely man.

    2. Let's pretend it wasn't a joke post.

    Do scum typically post "im scared" in the game thread in your experience?
    Maybe you sense their fear through their posts, and deduce that TMI must be causing their nerves...

    But do they actually say "omg im scared?"

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    why is APOC wolfing? Can you explain to me how is he wolfing? (wolfing means acting like a wolf, am I right?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#88)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#75)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#55)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#51)
    Pizza what are your plans for reading me this game?
    Plans?

    Do I really look like a guy with a plan?

    The mob has plans. Gordon's got plans. Pizza even has plans.

    Wait.

    Okay, I have a plan, but I already fired that lazar. Everything else I am winging.
    You wrote a five paragraph intro

    So ya, i'd like you to have a plan for finding the wolves


    Doesnt seem like you care who the wolves are.


    This is quite problematic. I'm not sure how you usually "clear yourself" but in my experience it typically involves caring who the wolves are and working to root them out
    Ahhhhhhh you're really wolfing APOC

    Oh that's a shame, bro.

    I forgive you. It's not your fault. Fate really does have a sense of humor, this is hysterical to me.
    why is APOC wolfing? Can you explain to me how is he wolfing? (wolfing means acting like a wolf, am I right?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek (#93)
    How confident are you in your ability to read Apoc? And how confident are you that he's scum?
    Confident in ability to read Apoc? Nil.

    I couldn't tell you the last game we played in together, especially because it probably wasn't a small game. And we didn't play many.

    If I were to read Apoc for real based on his meta, and I am wary of doing so for reasons, I would do a lot of side by side comparisons first, and withhold judgment.

    Here, it's just me experiencing the feeling of being lied to by a kid with his hand in the cookie jar. It's all gut.

    I would have to believe his methodology as town is to just stir $#@! up for the stirring of it to buy that as townie behavior. It's just so wrong from anyone. Don't even need to know Apoc to know that's really iffy.

    Confident he is scum? He's in my probably not town pile right now. My only real read other than easy town points to sothys for his methods.

    Past couple games I played I got burned hard by the towniest wolves I have ever played with. So I won't be locking sothys town for it, but he's on my approval list unless I have reasons.

    If I had to lynch someone day one so far it's Apoc but the whole universe is watching and I don't want to get it wrong on MU's favorite son. So there's gotta be more to it than this.

    But yeah, for real, I am having serious issues with the opening from Apoc. It's not right from any player.

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