So, Mason buddy, what bugs you about Vault Dweller? I am liking how he states his points simply and directly without hedging. Also, both last game when he was town, and now, he hasn't been reluctant to make early town reads, which is something I find scum are usually reluctant to do.
Tell me about your growth, Alolan fire cat. You mentioned getting better at this game and leaving out of a deep hole. How exactly? What changes did you make to your playstyle?
I feel I could get a small push on getting a read on you by knowing you better
Also, I was 100 years away from getting the scum in that game. Chelsea's reputation precedes her, no doubt!
Gonna have to do more than just my best.
Unless I missed something, QTesseract didn't post in neither game, right?
To be honest, seeing last game, you're going to slip your alignment again. Your writing style is pleasant for the eyes, and also, not sure if you did, but I need an answer for a question I posted before. I saw you mention that you prefer a calm game and to find mafia in such way. How did that work?
What's your take on other players reading you the same way as funnier for similar playstyle? Would it be accurate?
Joke reasoning: Scum has already parked their vote somewhere and went to chill in scumchat. RNG chose Litten
The quietness around here is unusual, I'll admit. I don't think being new to each other is the real cause. Many new players don't quiet like that in new communities, I believe, so what's different?
A question for all, but quoting @Litten. You've "traveled" a lot, was it like this for you?
After my first game I joined I didn’t really care about winning the game. I cared about just joking around during a match which caused people to get annoyed with me. I was often compared to a person called memesky who did the same thing I did. People hated us sometimes. Eventually, a person who joined our site later then I did was getting considered better then me (which I thought was strange because I joined first shouldn’t I be better, yes I’m ignorant in the first half of this story). Then I realized something, it was because I didn’t try so I tried to get better at the game and to actually try to win a game. However, people said that even when I did try that I was no better then memesky. (Which made me upset getting compared to him when I was actually trying and he wasn’t. It kind of felt like I was being insulted. Of course memesky didn’t care about getting called annoying). I was basically still trash at the game and didn’t know how to get better.
I asked around. First I went to a guy named Marluxion, a guy who was known for being a town leader and then he replied with a shrug emoji. I then went to a person named Hippo and asked “okay so you call me bad, why am I bad?” They told me that I focused too much on self preservation and that is why you are bad. Your goal isn’t to survive it’s to catch scum. If you explain your thought process clearly you will never get mislynched. It works for me because I have never been Mislynched. So I then asked how to get better at scumreading and he basically glossed over it. I didn’t really understand it a lot so I then went to a guy named Eevee. Now Eevee told me something interesting. Scum hunting isn’t the only way to hunt scum, in fact it’s provably the most boring way. They told me about gambits blah blah blah so I tried it out in a game when I was in a neighbhor chat with someone I told them that I was a neutral evil who knew they were scum due to one of my abilities and they basically denied it so I took it as them being town. I was still bad at the game but at least I was getting better. I focused more on trying to find scum rather then staying alive. Eventually there was a game where I did well in and I lead a lynch on scum day one. After that I was considered a town leader that game as the most cleared person there and it felt..awkward. The pressure seemed high for me as I wasn’t ever used to being a Town Leader. Fast toward time and then Eevee came to me and asked if you wanted help as I could teach you. I shly agreed (Fun fact unless I talk to you a lot I will always be nervous around you even if I don’t sound like it). Eventually, after that people in my site considered me an accurate reader on that site and I was out of the grave that I dug. My play style then was to be aggressive and sometimes try to reaction test people. It worked effectively. The scariest part of that was when I realized something. That Icibalus, Hippo, Marluxion. They aren’t the best players even though they seemed like the best players to me when I was bad. It gave me a new perspective on mafia.
Basically I got a lot more aggressive started to use reaction tests and stuff. However I think on different sites I have different play styles. Here I’m not focused on mechanics at all right now nor am I fixated on my role. While on other sites (one of them is hypixel who has role madness games) I focus more on having fun with mechanics there.
In total I’m probably going to be cautious this game rather then aggressive but maybe mid way through the game D2 it will change as I get more comfortable here.
@Vault_Dweller can you link a scum game that I don't need to sign up to view? ^^'
To give my take on your meta read there it was kind of going that direction last game but I doubt I would've gone as far as to decide you're town. I was expecting to disagree on everything with everyone in this game so I didn't have a plan for this sort of thing lol.
A lot of words posted this game and not a lot of them mean jack $#@!. Let's get this $#@!ing $#@! back on track. Apologies I wasn't here yesterday by the by. Was a bit busy.
Regardless, let's start..... here.
... right? You are a townie right?
Cause I struggle to find a townie motivation for this post, if I'm being honest.
There was clearly things to actually talk about given that the prior game aborted.
Then there's funnier6 who made a point of talking in the post game of the aborted game and saying he dislikes being scum. Then he jumps in (also basically immediately as soon as it started) to make an all caps "hooray I'm town!" post.
That screams of narrative. Rationally he obviously couldn't have known in the post game thread what his alignment would be for the reroll, so it's not quite "set up a future play" situation, but there's still a continuity there that pings.
Now ... both of those cases have fairly reasonable explanations for coming from town, which is why they got mentions to see if and how they would respond. On the whole, I feel that funnier seems more town than not from the back and forth we had.
I'll let that speak for itself I guess.
As for why I mentioned those two and not Chelsea ... are you guys daft? Chelsea hadn't posted yet when I made that post. Being constrained by TIME and everything, I couldn't possibly have known. You may want to note that I responded to Chelsea's entrance nearly immediately, and I even noted in that response that it was a repeat.
Also ... what's up with the low level activity and people not even checking in yet? Like ... I was warned to be ready to be deluged by posts and ... this is really underwhelming.
Nevermind I figured it out. Are you trying to pocket this person? This feels reaaaaaaaaaly offtopic and more personal connection, like you're buildig a rapport as opposed to getting a read.
What is the purpose of this line of questioning towards Litten?
And why did you react to only this post of mine instead of the others?
Cause I've got a saying, and I know I ain't the only one who knows the addage.
"Why me? Fry me."
Also, for the record, your statement also happens to be false. I placed a vote and pressured 2 different people along with you. Which only makes your "why me?" worse, in context...
Also, Litten did react.
And had similar thoughts to me.
Also Also, how does my reaction prevent Litten's in this case?
And I still don't get what the purpose of the line of questioning is, Keith.
So don't dodge the question a second time, yeah? What is the purpose of that line of questioning towards Litten?
It was recent and held the specific interaction that bothered me on a read through.
For me, reacting before Litten would be like answering a question designed for him in his place. Guapo's Law. If a player asks a question of another player, and the other player isn’t you, don’t answer it. At least not right away. Let the player who was asked answer first. The player who asked the question is scumhunting (or pretending to scumhunt) and all the players in the game may gain some insight from how the question is answered, as well as the question itself.
"Don’t walk through my lines of questioning with your hobnail boots", per saying.
them) they told me to watch out for
Vault, Chelsea, and Lady. I know why the last two but I don’t really know why Vault would be a issue based off his play style. Which gives e the feeling he’s hiding something.
Season 6, Game 5: The Legacy of the SANDS [The Mafia Championship] (RERAND) Day 1 Votecount
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 3 The Mighty Quinn grapefruit21 (10), Vault_Dweller (7), Morrigan (4) 2 Choxorn funnier6 (26), Drixx (10) 1 Drixx Chelsea (9) 1 Morrigan Litten (16) 1 Litten Keith (11) 1 fdas Lady Lambdadelta (8) 8 Not voting QTesseract (1), The Mighty Quinn (11), vonflare (0), Laurentus (3), fdas (4), Choxorn (4), EricKline (4), Bobberino (0)
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Day 1 ends at 9:00 PM EDT on Friday, May 31st, 2019. There are 1559350860000 remaining.
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I didn't get a chance to say so before the game ended, but by the end of...shall we call it Day Zero?...Litton was my top townread. I felt we were totally mindmelding and his posts were excellent. He was constantly quoting other people's posts and asking good, perceptive questions about them.
This game, he hasn't done any of that. It feels like he's just posting to post. He threw out the easy free townread on funnier6. He hasn't really engaged with anyone. Last game, his case on Morrigan was based on the content of her posts; this game, he's voting for her based solely on some tonal difference that apparently only he can perceive.
oh yeah, that was leading up to...
Oh, sorry for misspelling your name, Litten.
You asking a question of Litten does not make you immune to being pressured until Litten decides to interact meaningfully. Especially in a rapid pace game like this, admittedly less rapid than others in this tourney but still.
I know the rule you're speaking of, and the fact is you're misapplying it. Badly. Especially since Litten DID answer your question, and my interaction with you didn't prevent this.
The only question for me is whether you're misapplying this intentionally or accidentally.
If you are wondering about my not asking a lot of questions is that I don’t really see anything to ask. I’m basically waiting for more people to post.
“Well, I had simply made my first post because I agreed with Lady and her reasonings. Anything afterwards was simply an addition, the timing was irrelevant. Feel free to count those two as one post if you must. My vote's reasoning was implied with the same reasoning and Lady, I didn't feel the need to repeat it.”
“Votes can change can they not? And I could say the same to you about Chelsea. I'm following reason that was brought up. Just because I agree with someone's point doesn't mean I'm bandwagoning. Like I said before, my mind could change, but as of now it hasn't because nothing has been brought up to change my mind. I always random vote people, Chox just happened to catch my attention so I voted him. If he canges my mind about him I will gladly change my vote.”
Read these posts and notice how these seem way more formal then the ones here.