View Poll Results: How should Flipless work?

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  • SHOW Flipless in Role PM & SHOW in Role Cop results

    13 81.25%
  • HIDE Flipless in Role PM & HIDE in Role Cop results

    2 12.50%
  • SHOW Flipless in Role PM & HIDE in Role Cop results

    1 6.25%
  • HIDE Flipless in Role PM & SHOW in Role Cop results

    0 0%
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Thread: POLL: How should Flipless work?

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    POLL: How should Flipless work?

    Should the Flipless modifier be given to the player, or kept hidden?

    Should the Flipless modifier show in Role Cop results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#1)
    Should the Flipless modifier be given to the player, or kept hidden?

    Should the Flipless modifier show in Role Cop results?
    to the player

    yes

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    Show to role cop for sure, not sure about for Player yet.

    Would it be possible to edit the Role PM to omit all trace of the flipless via the role PM editor? If yes, I dont think it matters. I think most hosts would go with yes by default, tho.

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    In your own role? Like a self-janitored person? Show in the PM, show in role cop

    From a janitor? An action acted on a person? They shouldn't learn they will be flipless, shouldn't effect the role cop to have the attribute added to you midgame
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    Would it be possible to add a {HIDE_FROM_ROLE_PM] tag? Or is that just something that isn't possible. Or an advanced edit mode where you can modify the {} tags. Tangential question.

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    Wrong category. This belongs in Mafia lounge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#5)
    Would it be possible to add a {HIDE_FROM_ROLE_PM] tag? Or is that just something that isn't possible. Or an advanced edit mode where you can modify the {} tags. Tangential question.
    Yes. I don't understand the second one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#5)
    Would it be possible to add a {HIDE_FROM_ROLE_PM] tag? Or is that just something that isn't possible. Or an advanced edit mode where you can modify the {} tags. Tangential question.
    Yes. I don't understand the second one.
    Modbot stops you from removing things with {} tags, and there isnt really a way to add those unless you already know that they exist, making advance modification pretty accessible.

    For example, sometimes I want to remove the {RANDED COLOR} tags from role cards in auto games. The hide from role PM tag existing would be a good enough alternative for me, personally.

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    τη καλλίστη Makaze's Avatar Administrator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#8)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#5)
    Would it be possible to add a {HIDE_FROM_ROLE_PM] tag? Or is that just something that isn't possible. Or an advanced edit mode where you can modify the {} tags. Tangential question.
    Yes. I don't understand the second one.
    Modbot stops you from removing things with {} tags, and there isnt really a way to add those unless you already know that they exist, making advance modification pretty accessible.

    For example, sometimes I want to remove the {RANDED COLOR} tags from role cards in auto games. The hide from role PM tag existing would be a good enough alternative for me, personally.
    I can add buttons for those in the editor, I guess.
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    Cool

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    I don't understand the question tbqh

    Can you give an example of a flip less modifier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#11)
    I don't understand the question tbqh

    Can you give an example of a flip less modifier?
    It's a role modifier in modbot, like Macho or Ninja. It makes your role not flip on death.

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    Feels like this question depends on the setup.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

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    ⚡🍺Frog 🍺⚡Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

    ⚡🍺Frog 🍺⚡Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#11)
    I don't understand the question tbqh

    Can you give an example of a flip less modifier?
    It's a role modifier in modbot, like Macho or Ninja. It makes your role not flip on death.
    Individually hidden role flips seem like a strangely non-standard thing for us to be implementing

    I would say jaleb is right?

    But hiding info about whether or not you are hiding info....seems bad
    Last edited by Apoc; June 2nd, 2019 at 05:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#11)
    I don't understand the question tbqh

    Can you give an example of a flip less modifier?
    It's a role modifier in modbot, like Macho or Ninja. It makes your role not flip on death.
    Individually hidden role flips seem like a strangely non-standard thing for us to be implementing

    I would say jaleb is right?
    It's already in modbot right now already. The current conversation is how to have the modifier appear.

    It's important to note that you can make any role flipless and you can edit PMs however you want before theyre sent out. What really matters is whether or not it appears in a Role Cop or Full Cop result.

    Which is why I think it's yes and yes.

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    Here's a thing I wonder for example: If you're doing a Janitor setup and have a player that will not reveal his pm on death. Should it be known to the cop that his pm be hidden even though there's an idea leading to the janitor role being in the game? Idk if the bot supports Janitor (I assume it does)
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ⚡🍺Frog 🍺⚡Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

    ⚡🍺Frog 🍺⚡Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#16)
    Here's a thing I wonder for example: If you're doing a Janitor setup and have a player that will not reveal his pm on death. Should it be known to the cop that his pm be hidden even though there's an idea leading to the janitor role being in the game? Idk if the bot supports Janitor (I assume it does)
    Not currently but this paves the way.
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