Originally Posted by Sunbae 1561407165 (#99)Elite MoviesOriginally Posted by ladd 1561405703 (#97)Originally Posted by Sunbae 1561404707 (#95)
So there are two types of twists in movies. Type I is a twist that makes you revisit how you view things that previously happened. You watch the movie, you view things in whatever way based on what's happened, a twist happens, and then you gain a new perspective for how things were playing out. The example I always use of this is The Sixth Sense. In the Sixth Sense you are presented with the information that the kid can see dead people. You're watching the movie, it's a bit weird/creepy, you have your general feelings about the things that are happening, and then you get the "He's been dead the whole time" twist. Now you realize that nobody else in the movie said a word to him since he was shot and you get to go through previous scenes with an entirely new outlook on them. These are awesome twists and are the basis for a lot of the "makes you think!" movies. You get your perspective adjusted and see things in an entirely different light.
Type II is a twist where the joke is on you. These are twists for the sake of having twists and are often resulted from being presented with things that are just blatantly untrue. The example I always use of this is The Village. Same director as The Sixth Sense, much different result. In The Village you are presented with the information that creepy things are hunting people outside of an 18th century village. You're watching the movie, it's a bit weird/creepy, you have your general feelings about the things that are happening, and then you get the "Nothing is really out there and it's really modern day instead" twist. Now you realize that the entire premise of the movie was a lie to trick you and all of the previous scenes were entirely irrelevant. None of them matter. They aren't true. None of the suspense was real. The entire point of the movie was to feed you 75 minutes of lies so that you were surprised by the last 15. It results in the entire movie being a waste of your time. You don't look at previous things differently, your perspective isn't adjusting, it's just a "LOL JUST KIDDING!" reveal.
The Usual Suspects is a type II twist. You are told a story and flashback for 105 minutes only to find in the last 3 that none of it is true. There's no interesting going back and rewatching it scenes, there's no AHA moment, there's nothing interesting to take away from it. It's just Kevin Spacy making $#@! up for 105 minutes and then walking without a limp so that you feel surprised. But it's a weak surprise that has zero oomph behind it. It's just "oh, it was all fake ok then" and then you move on.
This concludes my :fire: posting about twists that some people will disagree heavily with. Like if you enjoy it, that's cool. You do you. I just hate it.
but the ending still gave me chills
how would you rank Nolan's movies?
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
I just don't really like Superman (that's a whole different conversation)
Man of Steel
I don't like war movies
*This ranking is specifically due to my dislike of War movies (specifically those based heavily on historically accurate things). They make me uncomfortable (they are often supposed to!). I struggle to live comfortably in the balance of remembering the awful things those before me put themselves through in an effort to make the world a better place and exploiting those hardships and life changing events for a movie with the intent of making a profit. I enjoy watching documentaries (which have more of an educational motive than a profit one). Dunkirk is objectively a good movie. It's probably one of his most well made ones all things considered. But I did not enjoy watching watching it (nor do I think I was supposed to). So it gets a category all on its own.
idk if the elite movies are ranked within but i'll pretend they are since The Prestige is one of my fav movies ever