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    I need a doctor! No, not you, go away... Sign-ups

    I need a doctor! No, not you, go away... Sign-Up Thread
    It is very important you read ALL of the sign-up thread details!!! The bolded information are very important and are unique to this setup. Put special attention on the bolded sentences.

    Backstory:

    In the seemingly peaceful Sicilian town of Doctorates, an unpeaceful evil has risen from the depths of the Earth. This evil is collectively known as the mafia and they mainly kill using a gun. Years ago in the past, the mafia has failed to get a doctorate which resulted in their exile and so has taken some revenge by kidnapping certain members of the town. No-one has realised this until only the doctors and the normal peaceful citizens remained. Meanwhile, some of the doctors have been practising their sorcery and have gained unusual powers in place of their protection abilities, which not even they may know about. These doctors may unknowingly kill their patients using a knife, or they may tie them up with string and unintentionally stop them from performing any night actions. And now, the mafia will complete their revenge by destroying the rest of the town.
    Will they succeed, or will the doctors and their sorcery stop them?


    Game Info:

    I need a doctor! No, not you, go away... 21er.
    Hosted by Impeaceful.
    Start Date: August 19th.
    SOD: 8pm AEST, EOD 8pm AEST.
    Days are 48 hours long, Nights are 24 hours long.
    Night Chat is not allowed.
    Out of thread Communication is only allowed for mafia.
    Posting requirement is 5 posts per in-game day. If you do not meet this by the EOD, you will be subbed out without warning.


    Mechanics:

    -Mafia can communicate at any time.
    -Mafia may submit a factional kill each night.
    -The factional kill is assigned to a specific member of the mafia. It can be roleblocked, protected against, or may be tracked or watched.
    -Role PMs will be sent out roughly 24 hours before the game starts.
    -Mafia wins when all other factions are dead, or if nothing can prevent this from occuring.
    -Town wins when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
    -Town may lynch a player each day.
    -'No Lynch' is enabled. You can vote for 'No Lynch' to attempt to forego a lynch for that day.
    -Ties result in a random player in the tie being lynched.
    -Majority is not in effect.
    -Flips are full reveals. Doctor’s sanities will be revealed upon their death. I will include their Role PM in their flip along with the sanity.
    -All power roles may submit their night action. If they do not submit it within the given time, they will forego their action for the night.
    -Lynch-Correctly-Or-Lose and Mislynch-And-Lose will not be announced and votes are not locked in Lynch-Correctly-Or-Lose and Mislynch-And-Lose. This is because i will reveal how much mafia are remaining and how much town power roles are left. If this happens then it may potentially reveal a doctor’s sanity.


    Roles:

    Mafia Roles
    -1 Roleblocker
    -1 Rolestopper
    -1 Role Cop
    -1 Mafia Goon
    Town Roles
    -10 Vanilla Townies
    -2 Sane Doctors
    -1 Insane Doctor
    -1 Paranoid Doctor
    -1 Naive Doctor
    -1 CPR Doctor
    -1 Weak Doctor
    Doctor Roles:
    Sane Doctors are exactly the same as the normal doctor.
    The Insane Doctor will kill their patient, barring outside intereference.
    The Paranoid Doctor are the same as normal doctors, except they will also roleblock their patient.
    The Naive Doctor’s protection is ineffective (does not work).
    If the CPR Doctor’s protection does not save someone from death, they will kill the patient.
    The Weak Doctor will die if they target an anti-town player.
    I will go more into detail about these doctor roles in the actual game. If you have any questions about how these doctors work, feel free to PM me before the game starts or explore Mafia Universe’s detailed explanation of roles on the wiki.


    Order of Operations:
    Due to the sheer amount of power roles and the way the CPR Doctor and the Paranoid Doctor roles work, the order of operations for this specific game will be slightly different to the normal Mafia Universe order of operations. The main difference is that this will determine which power roles do their night actions first, and what specific night actions they will do first (if they have multiple night actions). The Naive Doctor will simply be ignored.
    Roleblocker’s Roleblocks
    Rolestopper’s Roleblocks
    Paranoid Doctor’s Roleblocks
    CPR Doctor’s Protection
    Sane Doctor’s Protection
    Paranoid Doctor’s Protection
    Weak Doctor’s Protection
    Mafia Factional Kill
    Insane Doctor’s Kill
    CPR Doctor’s Protection disappears and the CPR Doctor performs a Kill
    Role Cop’s investigation
    Weak Doctor’s death if they target an anti-town player.


    Flavor:
    This game’s flavor will be based on the content provided in the backstory at the start of this sign-up thread. I will be incorporating a description of the role in the Role PM based on the role in the backstory. I will also create an amusing, humorous story based on any nightkills and will also slightly mention anything which is related to the victim of the nightkill. The flavored narrative will be roughly half an A4 page long. I will only briefly imply anything which may help speed up the game because i do not want to give away too much hints about who performed the nightkill or any other stuff, but i also do not want the flavor for the nightkill to be merely for decorative purposes. Therefore, i may mention this information related to the nightkill in a random amount of words or sentences, but i will use at least one word. Because i am not a professional story writer, the narratives which i make up in ten minutes will mostly contain confusing content which is intended to hide the information related to the nightkill.


    Notes:
    -The rolestopper can each night choose if they want to have the ability to roleblock any kills performed on their target, or to be unable to protect against kills for the night.
    -All doctors (except for Weak Doctor and CPR Doctor) will be told in their flavored Role PM that they are a sane doctor (normal doctor). They can be ANY sanity (except for Weak and CPR).
    -The Weak Doctor and the CPR Doctor will be told exactly what roles they are. The Weak Doctor will be told that they are a Weak Doctor and the CPR Doctor will be told that they are a CPR Doctor.
    -Role Cop investigations will return the role information which is specified in the Role PM of the target. Investigating a doctor of any sanity will simply give a sane doctor result.
    -This game is not bastard because i have told you beforehand that the Role PM’s may be incorrect to a certain extent.
    -Because it actually takes time to make the flavored stories and to process night actions, i don’t want people changing their night actions when i’m making the flavored stories. Power Roles must submit their night actions by 5pm AEST and no later, if they submit their night actions after 5pm AEST, they will forego their action for the night. Power roles cannot change their night action after 5pm AEST, if they do change their night action after 5pm AEST, i will simply ignore the new night action. This should be no problem for you if you think carefully about your night action and have good time management.
    -There are no-anti claim mechanisms for the flavored roles. You can claim whatever roles you want, but do not quote your Role PM (simply paraphrasing it is acceptable).
    -Killing someone will not stop their night action from being performed (e.g Insane doctor successfully kills a mafia roleblocker who decided to roleblock another player, that player that was targeted by the roleblocker will still be roleblocked.)


    Playerlist:

    1. @Contrainer
    2. @WaywardSon
    3. @toedder
    4. @Relm
    5. @Enoch Kaine
    6. @CatgirlMaple
    7. @DIYchei
    8. @Sherlock Holmes
    9. @Paloma
    10. @4maskwolf
    11. @kaempfer13
    12. @Haven4Haven
    13. @Marshmallow Marshall
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    Subs:
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    Spectators:
    1. @Virtuoso
    2.
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    I absolutely love the setup, but am not sure I will be able to participate correctly, especially since it's a 21P. 48/24 makes it possible to play, though, so I'll /reserve for now. Might change to in if I'm able to
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    Perfect. Thank you. Looking forward to the game
    "He was not a modest man, contemplating suicide he summoned a Dragon". - 'Gothos' Folly'.

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    in and ready to show everyone just how to play mafia

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    If this is all too confusing for you
    Here is the important bits of the signup thread to look at if you just want to play this game like any other regular mafia game (not thinking about it too much and not strategising about how to find doctor sanities too much or any of that sort of stuff)
    Read only these specified bits and you should be fine and not too confused:
    -Game Info Information
    -Mechanics Information
    -Roles Information
    -All the Bolded Information

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    If the game dosen't fill...
    I will reduce the amount of players in the game to 17 (if theres more, e.g 19, i will cut off the laat 2 according to their position in the player list, its ordered as to when you signed up). If there are even less players i will redyce it to 13. Town and mafia roles will be removed in both instances as to make the game fair.

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    try advertising or something, seems like a fun setup
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    /spectate please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#16)
    /spectate please
    I don't know what spectate means (i've never used the feature before nor seen it in games). May you explain what spectating does and how it is different from simply watching the game?

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    By the way guys, i won't forget to create the Role PM's or make the flavored story, because i've already made it on a seperate document, luckily. Processing night actions will only take 5 minutes, max.

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    I will extend the start date to 21st since there aren't even 13 players. I will cancel this game if it dosen't fill by then.
    Last edited by Impeaceful; August 15th, 2019 at 05:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#16)
    /spectate please
    I don't know what spectate means (i've never used the feature before nor seen it in games). May you explain what spectating does and how it is different from simply watching the game?
    it's just watching the game

    @Impeaceful might have been a bad week for this to run as it was competing with another game of roughly the same size? :/
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    The game will now start on August 21st (if there are enough players by then). I will notify you guys of the roles in the game if this becomes a 13er or 17er.
    Last edited by Impeaceful; August 16th, 2019 at 10:29 PM.

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    Ok, given that this game struggles to fill, I imagine people wont be too mad if I don't perform well.
    I want to say prerand though, that I wont have that much time and thus might just not do certain things I did in the previous game and overall post less. I might change my playstyle quite a bit in general, as I am still in the learning phase. Statistically speaking, this doesn't mean I randed scum for the first time. But it might still happen. You probably shouldnt put too much emphasis on meta with me.

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    Just two more players! So close.

    I'm still thinking of the rolelist but i can confirm that if this becomes a 13er, there will be 2 scum pr and a goon and town 6 vt and 4 pr or something like that. 17er will have 3 scum pr 9 vt town 5pr.

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    If I join, this'll be my first game on this website. Is this an OK rolelist to start off with?
    I have played on other sites before, so I know the basics of FM and I understand the power roles here, so I'm thinking yes.

    /in

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    If this becomes a 13er:
    Mafia Roles
    -1 Roleblocker
    -1 Role Cop
    -1 Mafia Goon
    Town Roles
    -6 Vanilla Townies
    -1 Sane Doctor
    -1 Paranoid Doctor
    -1 Naive Doctor
    -1 Weak Doctor
    Last edited by Impeaceful; August 18th, 2019 at 01:41 AM.

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    If this becomes a 17er:
    Mafia Roles
    -1 Roleblocker
    -1 Rolestopper
    -1 Rolecop
    Town Roles
    -9 Vanilla Townies
    -1 Sane Doctor
    -1 Insane Doctor
    -1 Paranoid Doctor
    -1 Naive Doctor
    -1 Weak Doctor

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    Both of these rolesets for the 13er and 17er games should be pretty balanced. Let me know if you think otherwise and i may/may not change/add roles from your requests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven4Haven (#27)
    If I join, this'll be my first game on this website. Is this an OK rolelist to start off with?
    I have played on other sites before, so I know the basics of FM and I understand the power roles here, so I'm thinking yes.

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    There are more beginner games that you can play such as mountainous or light games. However, if you are finding any aspect of the game difficult (such as performing night actions or interpreting flavored stories), you can PM me here or contact me on discord, and i will provide you with limited information depending on the circumstances because if i tell you what the flavored stories mean, that would be showing favoritism.

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    I wouldnt recommend mountainous to beginners. In it you have to rely solely on what people say. Only reason I wouldnt recommend this setup to a beginner is because it isn't entirely clear what the roles do. I'm sure people will openly strategize around that day 1, so even if you have no idea what to do with your role people will give advice in thread and get called out if it's bad advice. You don't have to say you have one of those roles to talk about it either.

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    For clarfication. The weak doctor will definitely die if they successfully target a scum player. If the weak doctor is roleblocked, their action is treated as to not have happened and so they wont die. The weak doctor can not be protected from death if they target a scum player.

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    Also if the mafia choose to nightkill the weak doctor, and the weak doctor targets a scum player, refer to the Order Of Operations. Nightkills happen before weak doctor suicide. Therefore the weak doctor death message will ne that they were nightkilled.

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    Are you notified if you are blocked or at least if your ability fails?
    Last edited by kaempfer13; August 18th, 2019 at 05:21 PM.

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    If the weak doctor was roleblocked, they will not know. If the weak doctor targets an anti-town player, the protection will still affect them.

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    I'll be going over all the roles in much more detail when the game starts. If noone joins i'll be askung @Marshmallow Marshall if they want to /in

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    If noone joins and marshallmallow dosent /in, i may have to join the game and leave the randing to someone else and they will make the flavored story and role pm just to make it fair.

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    Okay well, I was planning on working on my homesite & playing games there; we have a 48 hours one-day game starting soon, probably around the start date of this setup. My activity may not be top (but I will do my best, and I will not lurk lol), but if me not signing would prevent this from happening... In the name of glorious FM games and setups, I /in.

    I should be able to post more when outside of that other game.
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    We're full for 13p! Hurray!
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    We'll still start on 21st. Hooray! Maybe i should have run it at a different time cos its competing with other games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#28)
    If this becomes a 13er:
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    -1 Roleblocker
    -1 Role Cop
    -1 Mafia Goon
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    -6 Vanilla Townies
    -1 Sane Doctor
    -1 Paranoid Doctor
    -1 Naive Doctor
    -1 Weak Doctor
    isn't this really townsided by MU standards? open setup with 4 claimable town prs? @LordQuas @CatgirlMaple

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    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#43)
    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#28)
    If this becomes a 13er:
    Mafia Roles
    -1 Roleblocker
    -1 Role Cop
    -1 Mafia Goon
    Town Roles
    -6 Vanilla Townies
    -1 Sane Doctor
    -1 Paranoid Doctor
    -1 Naive Doctor
    -1 Weak Doctor
    isn't this really townsided by MU standards? open setup with 4 claimable town prs? @LordQuas @CatgirlMaple
    yes, yes it is. The original setup is arguably just as townsided with scum making up less than 20% of the playerlist lol

    should probably drop at least one of the docs and it gets a lot better
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    for impeaceful who missed our discord talk. Basically the docs all claim d1 (or hell they don't even need to since there's no actual town kp to misfire) and just optimize targets (the jailkeeper hunts for the factional kill) and then the POE mafia can be in is narrowed instantly to 9

    with only one kill per night it won't be until d5 that wolvse are able to get rid of all the docs

    also worth noting about the setup is if they mass claim d1 they only just claim "doctor," none of the wolves can join the pool or they have to out themselves to get everyone else to claim. Each doc gives a fake target (except for the weak doctor, who gives their real target) and then if the weak doctor lives then you have ANOTHER conf town and if they die you found a wolf
    :wiwe

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    I've thought about that they can all just claim d1, so i put sufficient mafia power roles to confuse the town if that happens. The wolves can also simply claim vanilla townie. Alternatively, i can just switch the naive doctor with insane doctor if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#46)
    I've thought about that they can all just claim d1, so i put sufficient mafia power roles to confuse the town if that happens. The wolves can also simply claim vanilla townie. Alternatively, i can just switch the naive doctor with insane doctor if you wish.
    your call ultimately, I'm just here to meme and have fun. That was just my 2 cents on the setup
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    What about simply taking the weak doctor out? That leaves you with sane/paranoid/naive doctors versus the roleblocker/role cop; taking the cop-doctor out of the equation relieves the pressure on mafia by a lot as well as taking out a clear!!
    Message a ghost at Arapocalypse#0834!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#46)
    I've thought about that they can all just claim d1, so i put sufficient mafia power roles to confuse the town if that happens. The wolves can also simply claim vanilla townie. Alternatively, i can just switch the naive doctor with insane doctor if you wish.
    The issue is that let's say all four doctors claim day 1, right? Assuming that there are no doctor fakeclaims and even if they just claim doctors, that immediately takes four mislynches off the table and clears them immediately! It's a matter of narrowing mafia options by a lot during the day, even if they are still able to get their nightkills off, and that's not to mention the weak doctor being able to basically get cop checks up until they hit a mafia!!
    Message a ghost at Arapocalypse#0834!

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    I've decided to replace the Weak Doctor with the Insane Doctor. If you guys don't mind.

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