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    SUGGESTION: Achievement badges

    On the site that I am a moderator on, we have badges that people earn when they acheve certain things. I was thinking we could possibly do something like that here on MU. What I was thinking is something on the line of:

    1) Join your first game
    2) Host a game
    3) Survive till endgame
    4) Be on the wagon of a wolf
    5) As a vigilante, vig a member of the wolf team
    6) As a doctor, heal a town PR

    and so forth. I think it'll add some flavor to the site as well as encourage people to continue playing on MU.

    Not sure how feasible this is.
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    How are you planning on countering people who claim they only did something for the badge?

    Would achievement hunters impact the game in a negative capacity?

    Who is going to track the achievements?

    Is talking about achievements angleshooting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#2)
    How are you planning on countering people who claim they only did something for the badge?

    Would achievement hunters impact the game in a negative capacity?

    Who is going to track the achievements?

    Is talking about achievements angleshooting?
    This. If I could believe people wouldn't do this stuff then I'd be happy. But the thing is people would. They'd do stuff to try and earn them that could be bad for play, they'd use them to try to explain away $#@!. It'd be fun if we could expect everyone to keep it all fun, but we can't lol, they'd get competitive about it and try to *use* them to impact the game and stuff

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    I like it and I've thought about it before, but Phighter summed up my main concern.

    Does a win as last wolf standing achievement inspire some people to hard bus in 5p lylo, and do we really want that influencing games? That sort of thing.
    Last edited by Shad; September 4th, 2019 at 09:54 AM.
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    There was an old thread that I think was started by IAWY that had different achievements in it

    It has my 10k post in it, pretty cool

    Don’t think that will every be a thing tracked by MU but you can always have your own list. Some of my favorites are being the only person alive at the end of the game and being the only town in an f3 (thanks multiball)
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    We do have a play in 100 games achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shad (#6)
    We do have a play in 100 games achievement.
    Son of a bitch

    I better start turboing

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    I'm against mechanical achievements.

    I'm for people getting unique achievements for whatever crazy stuff happened to happen in a game, and collecting that in a thread, besides the more formal categories we're taking nominations for.
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    I like it.

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    I'm against this unless they can be added automatically. I feel that it would just be another job for the mods that wouldn't be necessary.

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    After 24 hours thinking about it, I think:

    - Have to be automatic achievements that can just be added like badges now

    - Have to not actually influence games
    Things like:
    - Play 100 games
    - Play a non-mafia game on MU
    - Play a light game
    - Sign up for a mash


    - Should not be seen from the main pages, but rather a profile page
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#12)
    After 24 hours thinking about it, I think:

    - Have to be automatic achievements that can just be added like badges now

    - Have to not actually influence games
    Things like:
    - Play 100 games
    - Play a non-mafia game on MU
    - Play a light game
    - Sign up for a mash


    - Should not be seen from the main pages, but rather a profile page
    Tbh we already have some like that and I agree those would be fine (like we do have them as awards already)

    (Also plz no multigaming ones LOL)

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    FPS ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

    fake wolf peek 1000 villagers (PRO FPS ACHIEVEMENT! CORRECTLY FAKE PEEK 1000 VILLAGERS OR WOLVES*)

    HONORARY WOLF TEAM MEMBER ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

    successfully mislynch 6,000 villagers (suppose being on a village wagon when a wolf gets lynched could work as well)

    *excludes turbos, cannot combine wolf/village peeks to total 1000

    that said im game for achievements that will hopefully make players play games more competitive like tier achievements for consecutive wins 3,5,10 ect or for a more silly one that prob shouldnt have in game effect ita hits

    killer achievement unlocked!- successfully kill someone with a ita>>>>natural born killer- successfully kill 20,000 players with itas

    broadside of a barn achievement- miss 10,000 itas


    and maybe to shut up ppl who complain about being vanilla ect

    nostradamus achievement- rand seer 34,000 times

    ect
    Last edited by mor_tilt; September 5th, 2019 at 06:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mor_tilt (#13)
    FPS ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

    fake wolf peek 1000 villagers (PRO FPS ACHIEVEMENT! CORRECTLY FAKE PEEK 1000 VILLAGERS OR WOLVES*)

    HONORARY WOLF TEAM MEMBER ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

    successfully mislynch 6,000 villagers (suppose being on a village wagon when a wolf gets lynched could work as well)

    *excludes turbos, cannot combine wolf/village peeks to total 1000

    that said im game for achievements that will hopefully make players play games more competitive like tier achievements for consecutive wins 3,5,10 ect or for a more silly one that prob shouldnt have in game effect ita hits

    killer achievement unlocked!- successfully kill someone with a ita>>>>natural born killer- successfully kill 20,000 players with itas

    broadside of a barn achievement- miss 10,000 itas


    and maybe to shut up ppl who complain about being vanilla ect

    nostradamus achievement- rand seer 34,000 times

    ect
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    get mislynched on D1 100 times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#15)
    Quote Originally Posted by mor_tilt (#13)
    FPS ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

    fake wolf peek 1000 villagers (PRO FPS ACHIEVEMENT! CORRECTLY FAKE PEEK 1000 VILLAGERS OR WOLVES*)

    HONORARY WOLF TEAM MEMBER ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

    successfully mislynch 6,000 villagers (suppose being on a village wagon when a wolf gets lynched could work as well)

    *excludes turbos, cannot combine wolf/village peeks to total 1000

    that said im game for achievements that will hopefully make players play games more competitive like tier achievements for consecutive wins 3,5,10 ect or for a more silly one that prob shouldnt have in game effect ita hits

    killer achievement unlocked!- successfully kill someone with a ita>>>>natural born killer- successfully kill 20,000 players with itas

    broadside of a barn achievement- miss 10,000 itas


    and maybe to shut up ppl who complain about being vanilla ect

    nostradamus achievement- rand seer 34,000 times

    ect
    You have too much time on your hands you need to play the game starting Sunday.
    no werewolf for me for the next 2 months starting at 4 est >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Gnome (#16)
    get mislynched on D1 100 times!
    its not a me problem its you/FEAR achievement unlocked!

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    Usage of the most confusing sort of acronyms, resulting is massive collections of incomprehensible strings of letters and the "huh" response from nearly everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Gnome (#17)
    Usage of the most confusing sort of acronyms, resulting is massive collections of incomprehensible strings of letters and the "huh" response from nearly everyone.
    UMCSA Award?
    I think that fits my suggestion well!
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    Seriously though, I think modbot could automatically calculate how many days you voted to lynch correctly as town and then automatically send you a PM, copying a mod, congratulating you when you hit 100 days or something, so they can pin a badge on you. Also there could be a highest-percent-correct award with minimum number of games tallied and not counting turbos or games in the testing thread.

    I could be coordinator if given powers to award the badges to folks who earn them.

    P.S.: There are a lot of achievements that could be recognized, some of them automatically via modbot, without creating achievements that would detract from a player's duty to play toward their win condition rather than some achievement.
    Last edited by Zork; September 6th, 2019 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#21)
    Seriously though, I think modbot could automatically calculate how many days you voted to lynch correctly as town and then automatically send you a PM, copying a mod, congratulating you when you hit 100 days or something, so they can pin a badge on you. Also there could be a highest-percent-correct award with minimum number of games tallied and not counting turbos or games in the testing thread.

    I could be coordinator if given powers to award the badges to folks who earn them.

    P.S.: There are a lot of achievements that could be recognized, some of them automatically via modbot, without creating achievements that would detract from a player's duty to play toward their win condition rather than some achievement.
    Wouldn't that create a perverse incentive to withhold your vote until you had a surefire lunch? It could even lead to players not voting once in a game, even for self-preservation.
    Last edited by Makaze; September 6th, 2019 at 02:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#21)
    Seriously though, I think modbot could automatically calculate how many days you voted to lynch correctly as town and then automatically send you a PM, copying a mod, congratulating you when you hit 100 days or something, so they can pin a badge on you. Also there could be a highest-percent-correct award with minimum number of games tallied and not counting turbos or games in the testing thread.

    I could be coordinator if given powers to award the badges to folks who earn them.

    P.S.: There are a lot of achievements that could be recognized, some of them automatically via modbot, without creating achievements that would detract from a player's duty to play toward their win condition rather than some achievement.
    Wouldn't that create a perverse incentive to withhold your vote until you had a surefire lunch? It could even lead to players not voting once in a game, even for self-preservation.
    Good points.

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    Yeah, again, it can't be anything that mechanically interferes with the day-by-day play, even if it is supposed to be helpful, for the internet is a place that abuses this sort of thing
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

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    maybe it's just me

    but i find having excessive "flavor" in a forum tends to lead to a fair number of people caring more about the flavor than the game

    plus the concerns of being visually distracting/unnecessary/what have you

    we already have enough passing jokes about how many awards people have, i'd rather just stay away from the possibility of this devolving into enabling arguments based on superiority because of such things

    that said i think there could well be a place for basic things along the lines of the existing play 100 games thing, i just don't really see any need for them and think they'd affect the way people play and interact in a negative way more than they'd encourage new players or stuff

    we already have undertitles, which are an acknowledgement of the people who have been more active, i think displaying anything beyond that in the normal interface is a bad idea (though i'd not necessarily have anything against stuff that could be viewed on profiles but circle around to what's the point)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion (#24)

    we already have undertitles, which are an acknowledgement of the people who have been more active, i think displaying anything beyond that in the normal interface is a bad idea (though i'd not necessarily have anything against stuff that could be viewed on profiles but circle around to what's the point)
    starts campaigning for a "Power Wolf" undertitle instead of "Tunnel King"
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $#@!ing with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion (#24)
    maybe it's just me

    but i find having excessive "flavor" in a forum tends to lead to a fair number of people caring more about the flavor than the game

    plus the concerns of being visually distracting/unnecessary/what have you

    we already have enough passing jokes about how many awards people have, i'd rather just stay away from the possibility of this devolving into enabling arguments based on superiority because of such things

    that said i think there could well be a place for basic things along the lines of the existing play 100 games thing, i just don't really see any need for them and think they'd affect the way people play and interact in a negative way more than they'd encourage new players or stuff

    we already have undertitles, which are an acknowledgement of the people who have been more active, i think displaying anything beyond that in the normal interface is a bad idea (though i'd not necessarily have anything against stuff that could be viewed on profiles but circle around to what's the point)
    I could go for a fun undertitle. Like "Mislynch bait" or something equally goofy. Wait. Not "mislynch bait." I would just get policy lynched for no reason, lol. How about "Perma-town"? Or "Super Gnome" or "Gnomerator"???

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    I like the idea, though for various reasons think it'd only be feasible as an informal thing that would be user-tracked!! I actually recall seeing the thread Empoof mentioned a while ago, though I don't know if it still exists? Might dig it up sometime!!!

    For ones that would actually be able to be recorded in the system and such, it'd have to be basically strictly on a basis where only stuff that doesn't affect how one would normally approach their wincon and anything affecting gameplay, so...

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    i like the idea of tiered achievements, have like 15 or so that can be tracked by bots. I dont think i like role-specific acheivements, but allignment ones can be fine.
    something like this, i feel a second title under the one you already have, that isnt just dependant on post count:
    -Light Game Newbie (played 1 light game)
    -Light Game Intermediate (won 3 light games)
    -Light Game Veteran (won 10 light games)
    -Light Game Champion (won 20 light games)
    -Light Game Master (won 30 light games)

    -Wolf Hunter Newbie (sucesfully lynched 1 wolf)
    -Wolf Hunter Intermediate (sucesfully lynched 10 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Veteran (sucesfully lynched 50 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Champion (sucesfully lynched 120 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Master (sucesfully lynched 250 wolves)

    stuff in general that dont impact the game but give a player an incentive to play well.
    the main problem i see with this though is it can get quite toxic if some people gather alot of achievements and use them as a leverage against other players.although awards exist already so i dont think it would change much

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol (#28)
    i like the idea of tiered achievements, have like 15 or so that can be tracked by bots. I dont think i like role-specific acheivements, but allignment ones can be fine.
    something like this, i feel a second title under the one you already have, that isnt just dependant on post count:
    -Light Game Newbie (played 1 light game)
    -Light Game Intermediate (won 3 light games)
    -Light Game Veteran (won 10 light games)
    -Light Game Champion (won 20 light games)
    -Light Game Master (won 30 light games)

    -Wolf Hunter Newbie (sucesfully lynched 1 wolf)
    -Wolf Hunter Intermediate (sucesfully lynched 10 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Veteran (sucesfully lynched 50 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Champion (sucesfully lynched 120 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Master (sucesfully lynched 250 wolves)

    stuff in general that dont impact the game but give a player an incentive to play well.
    the main problem i see with this though is it can get quite toxic if some people gather alot of achievements and use them as a leverage against other players.although awards exist already so i dont think it would change much
    @lol

    so I'm going to lynch every wolf on my team by basically outting them one by one.

    cool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#31)
    Quote Originally Posted by lol (#28)
    i like the idea of tiered achievements, have like 15 or so that can be tracked by bots. I dont think i like role-specific acheivements, but allignment ones can be fine.
    something like this, i feel a second title under the one you already have, that isnt just dependant on post count:
    -Light Game Newbie (played 1 light game)
    -Light Game Intermediate (won 3 light games)
    -Light Game Veteran (won 10 light games)
    -Light Game Champion (won 20 light games)
    -Light Game Master (won 30 light games)

    -Wolf Hunter Newbie (sucesfully lynched 1 wolf)
    -Wolf Hunter Intermediate (sucesfully lynched 10 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Veteran (sucesfully lynched 50 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Champion (sucesfully lynched 120 wolves)
    -Wolf Hunter Master (sucesfully lynched 250 wolves)

    stuff in general that dont impact the game but give a player an incentive to play well.
    the main problem i see with this though is it can get quite toxic if some people gather alot of achievements and use them as a leverage against other players.although awards exist already so i dont think it would change much
    @lol

    so I'm going to lynch every wolf on my team by basically outting them one by one.

    cool?
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    if everyone has a special undertitle, nobody has a special undertitle

    also, I generally feel like mechanical forum stuff should not motivate people to join a game-- while I don't think it'd be a massive issue you'd probably see people saying stuff like /in to get to 100 games

    and that sort of mindset might lead to a minor increase in people subbing out or multitabling when they shouldn't be

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    how about we just put everyone's win/loss record under their name on an opt-in basis, starting with automated non-turbos only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#32)
    how about we just put everyone's win/loss record under their name on an opt-in basis, starting with automated non-turbos only...
    Why you hating on turbos?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $#@!ing with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#33)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#32)
    how about we just put everyone's win/loss record under their name on an opt-in basis, starting with automated non-turbos only...
    Why you hating on turbos?
    I don't think they are balanced. The 9er, anyway. Plus I'm trying to stick to a statistic that can't easily be padded.

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