The Strongman modifier allows its user to be guaranteed that their night kill will work no matter what, penetrating and ignoring all forms of protective and blocking abilities. I.e. Doctors, Bodyguards, Jailkeepers, Roleblockers and Bulletproof Vests cannot stop a Strongman from using their night kill as intended, assuming they activate and use the Strongman ability. Vigilantes, Serial Killers and Mafia roles can all be combined with a Strongman modifier. Combining any other role with a Strongman modifier will have no effect, as the Strongman modifier only interacts with roles that already have a night kill, meaning that a Town Roleblocker does not get a kill from being made a Strongman. It's possible for a Strongman to have anywhere between one and infinite uses of their ability, and it's also possible to restrict the modifier so that the ability cannot be used on consecutive nights.
We didn't have confidence in the AC. That's why it wasn't used. It was too risky.
how are wolves supposed to be able to do that?
with a wolf kill power of 2 per night, a death to lynch kills 2 townies
if a wolf dies to anticlaim before they have killed 2 townies via AC, the AC has -EV
this requires 3 consecutive correct ACs with >80% certainty each
how certain was Evenstar lover vs emissary?
how certain was Wes being which cop?
Spartan as treestump was wrong
Lukundo as JK was ok because he knew the RBed scum, that can be 80%
and if the wolf powering up the AC gets lynched, the process starts again
anti-claim is not a kill power
its function is to prevent town doing a mass claim strategy
it did that
There were probably certain points where I probably didn't to an amazing job of alleviating any concerns, as I was sleep deprived as $#@! and probably less coherent in my views or less active.
@mendel sorry as well, if I was a bit overly rude in my rather hard tunnel of you.
The extent to which town's claims are fake is inversely proportional to the extent to which town obtains an advantage from doing that, so it makes sense that the anticlaim should grow in risk as benefit to town decreases. When Town starts relying heavily on claims in its lynch decisions is when you need to submit ACM to counter that POE-reducing benefit the town is obtaining.
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Unless you simply hadn't had a clue that Abra was the even doc...in which case, gg town.
Plus you didn't survive the first lynch anyway so...town just played too well and mafia was unlucky with how the 1-pill randed but those are only parts of the story...
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The game was designed to be balanced if the town doesn't claim at all (no use of ACM) and if the town does claim to whatever extent (use of ACM). The inbalance occurs when, in the latter case, the Mafia do not respond with the tool at their disposal to Town's roleclaiming.
WWS, the consensus in DVC among mafia and town alike was that the anticlaim mechanism was underutilized as a tool to combat the soft and hard claims of the town. Wildfire was obviously the Emissary, for example. The Lovers were another. The only two players in the game who were mutually hard-clearing each other were the Lovers.
Now if they had pretended not to know each other, and if Wifi had been more circumspect in her n0 peek instead of broadcasting it at least 7 different times in all caps, you'd have more of an argument.
why is wayward scum every game im in
All I can say is, I wanted to AC N2 but if we'd had my way I would have died D3 incorrectly claiming Wes.
Ultimately without nightchat it just wasn't available. The coordination and timing necessary was too tight. With nightchat, we could have simultaneously dropped votes alongside Pilica's bombing 10 seconds before EOD. (For the record, my vote on nightchat was 'IDK.')
Tangentially, the Mafia grandmaster ATPG used to proclaim that RB claims should always be lynched because most of the time they are scum. Well, what he actually said was a little more sophisticated than that but that's how I choose to relate it.
And speaking personally, I'm too dense to understand soft claims; I don't think I picked up a single one. I was even wrong about Trustworthy, who softed another PR while dying (after rescinding his cop claim), when in fact he was a VT. In fact N1 we all thought he would be a PR.