like... if i'm scum, what's my angle on townreading that and scumreading this?
and your face is silly (but so is mine so that's ok. body positivity is $#@!ing hard dude)
but for real like
there's only so many times i can reword my thoughts before said thoughts being said to not make sense starts to smell funny
I'm having trouble seeing Para's thought process b/c of this kinda thing and I think it's sorta tilting me toward a wolf read
you ALSO know full well that my villa d1 sucks
i can easily see a world where the wolves want me mislynched today for fear of me clearing myself later on down the line
I don't think I have ever seen your village d1 our your village game at all so I have no idea what you're talking about
i want everybodys current thoughts on ftflush tbh
if everybody sucks at reading flush should we just cfd him
and by cfd i mean surprise hug attack
Okay, I needed to make sure because i'm like
sort of struggling to see from wolf-amy's point of view how pushing zack of all people is going to help her here at all
a counterpush on a more sensible wagon might have made sense but getting flustered here is basically just blundering her way into a d1 lynch and I feel like she's savvy enough to know better
Your guess is as good as mine on flush
I find amy's push on me fallacious but don't want to bog down the thread in a pointless back and forth about it. if she's a villager, it would be a more productive use of her time to catchup or read my full iso to better develop a read on me than verbal sparring over the validity of her push on me.
Okay I think Slimy and Amy got a bit entangled in a situation where Psycho didn't get that one of Amy's posts was a joke, and Amy corrected it and said that Psycho didn't have any "reachy bull$#@!". Slimy thinks that missing a joke is reachy bull$#@!. Amy says missing a joke is fine.
I don't really see that as being the key point here (sorry) and that seems to be most of what Slimy is focusing on.The other point being that there was also a quote she didn't understand why it was there (because Psycho seemingly forgot to comment on) which also she includes in the net of reasonable comments. I can sort of see how she could be generalizing and therefore giving an opinion that doesn't match what she said she feels.
I can see Amy's tacked on "but this doesn't ping me" as scum just throwing an opinion out there for the sake of it. I can also see it as a real thought which is getting scrutinized way too much and her only response is "man i just didn't think it was a scummy push ok" and there's nothing else she can say.
Amy's responses are really.... uh, sassy? Like calling the pushes on her lacking (810) and calling the WWS wagon lame (816) even though she's literally on it. Is Amy really like this as a wolf? It's basically purposefully saying things which could piss people off.
822 She's literally not even trying to explain reads. I mean, if she's scum, what the hell is she doing? Same with 896, what even sort of tactic is this as scum? I'm inclined to read it like she's genuinely frustrated. Because she does have a point. She literally said "I haven't caught up I'm just going to defend myself and not post reads" and was met with "omg you're just defending yourself instead of posting reads"
basically it just feels twtbaw, but i admit i can see why zack took an issue with the "oh but psycho's case doesn't ping me" addendum. i don't really see zack as looking worse for this but i guess i can see if he's scum how he'd feel it was a good push to make.
Ampharos If town!WWS was low in content then why vote WWS here for being low in content? Are you saying it was a pressure vote to make him post more?
You said it was a lame wagon but you still had your vote on him here. I understand you were catching up and it was an old vote so maybe it doesn't mean much, but. You've moved it now but would you go back, if Slimy doesn't become a wagon?
so yeah idk
doesnt feel great
Ran I think you are still underestimating how much a wolf can get away with pushing a townie here. Like you've criticized our meta for this, but a wolf can push a townie all day and then if they flip town, on day 2 we might just say "well they seemed to believe it so it's fine". This is probably in contrast with your idea where we'd heavily scrutinize the people who started the wagon. I mean, we'd scrutinize for sure, but wolves can and do get away with starting wagons on easy-to-push townies without repercussion.
from her pov the most likely thing is people would just say "oh you're not posting reads, you're omgusing, die"
I know the iaafr vote was tongue-in-cheek. Same with your vote on Slimy. But that was the point. It was hollow with no substance. The first looks like attempted solving, but the second in particular looks bad because the game was generating content, yet you hadn't really weighed in on much. So wasting time with a joke vote felt convenient. The other quote I meant to take out, because I didn't have anything remarkable to say other than it kinda pinged me.
And yeah, honestly, the biggest Crux of my argument is you're lacking when you've been around enough to have a little something more. WWS at least has the excuse of not being around, but you've felt content to coast despite being in-thread when it started to pick up.
You might have something I'll catch up to, but so you have any scumreads?
just briefly isoed amy's town game in color wheel (first rand)
engagement level difference is night and day. but she had a whole team there who seemed active and apparently more time to play.
but still idk. can't help but be severely unimpressed here. also not appreciative of the rather uncooperative attitude, and i struggle to think of leaving her alive as a good thing for the gamestate. think im just gonna stay here for the day.
not gonna wifom myself out of it like para's apparently doing. except when i probably do, in a couple hours.
I mean it's possible that it's just wolf-amy being super flustered but I feel like if she were a wolf she'd have... something else going on, someone to coordinate with and make a different push, I dunno
instead she's relying on me making a pretty tenuous townread of her based on her getting mad at zack?
Retrospective Day 1 Votecount as of Post #809
Post #809 was originally posted at 3:38 PM EDT on Thursday, September 12th, 2019.
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 4 WaywardSon Ampharos, Chemist1422, iaafr, 112 2 112 FTFlush, Visorslash 2 Paratroopa CatgirlMaple, Ranmilia 2 Ampharos Psycho666Soldier, Mill Crab 1 FTFlush Slimy Soab 1 CatgirlMaple Dels 2 Not voting WaywardSon, Paratroopa
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yes i am a fluffy rabbit thank you
ranmilia, do you have reasons for not wanting ampharos voted other than the amount of apparent enthusiasm and traction for the wagon?
it's dangerous to assume wolves are always planning out and executing the most rational, logical course of action with surgical precision. sometimes wolfy behavior is just wolfy behavior.
and dels, I don't see why it matters whether or not she said she was going to give reads. It's still a bad look to barely spend any time solving the game.
I frankly don't understand the suspicion on ran. pretty much every post of theirs has made me think "this person is likely a villager"