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    Quote Originally Posted by Panini (#543)
    Quote Originally Posted by Panini (#508)
    Logic/Keldeo
    This is also possible just given Keldeo broke the tie that actually saved Logic yesterday. And on top of that is the Chem thing which is kinda bad but I'm a bit more shrug at that.
    I also think this is maybe less likely just on the basis of P#394. Like asking me directly if I can move my vote somewhere else looks immensely bad if they knew there wasn’t going to be success in moving the vote off of Logic and he flips red. So I think out of these three worlds this is actually last for me.
    @Mill Crab if you have a mo for a thought on this specifically I'd appreciate it
    @qva can I actually get your thoughts on it too? And basically just the backend of P#508 in general if you have time for it because it's kind of why I'm leaning Bfree over Logic somewhat, but down for either

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    Going to be driving home don't know if I'll be on again before eod. Glgl

    ##Vote Logic

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    bfree/logic makes sense to me bc:
    - we know why i think logic is scum i assume
    - bfree’s defense of him is weird
    - she’s basically just voted for The Other Guy now and before
    - her read on mill feels fabricated, like she arrived at the mill vote first and had to come up with a reason after the fact. i do not believe she believes it
    - this is what scum butterfree looks like tbh
    - honestly if we assume bfree and logic got paired, and logic acts in this weird way that gets votes on him and bfree is frustrated but has to cover for him somehow... is this not exactly what that would look like????

    maybe i’m tunneling here, maybe it’s confirmation bias, but this just feels increasingly clear to me

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    I do feel like Mill has a point though in just saying that they don't have to do this much work if Logic is a ML so maybe Butterfree/Logic is also the world I'm coming to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panini (#551)
    Quote Originally Posted by Panini (#543)
    Quote Originally Posted by Panini (#508)
    Logic/Keldeo
    This is also possible just given Keldeo broke the tie that actually saved Logic yesterday. And on top of that is the Chem thing which is kinda bad but I'm a bit more shrug at that.
    I also think this is maybe less likely just on the basis of P#394. Like asking me directly if I can move my vote somewhere else looks immensely bad if they knew there wasn’t going to be success in moving the vote off of Logic and he flips red. So I think out of these three worlds this is actually last for me.
    @Mill Crab if you have a mo for a thought on this specifically I'd appreciate it
    @qva can I actually get your thoughts on it too? And basically just the backend of P#508 in general if you have time for it because it's kind of why I'm leaning Bfree over Logic somewhat, but down for either
    i guess i just find it hard to believe that keldeo would have tunneled on mill through basically this entire game if he was scum. that feels towny to me, i think his posts have been insightful, and in general i just don’t really feel this world. i believe that he believes his push on mill

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    So not antialiasis/Mill Crab

    "no one is voting their partner at EOD" worlds, which seems cromulent based on how the EODs went tbh rules out Mill Crab/Redneckphoenix, Mill Crab/Logic, Panini/Logic, qva/Redneckphoenix, qva/Logic

    I'm a little bit scared that qva has been less present today because she doesn't really need to do anything except continue to push onto Logic and let inertia do the work, but preview edit: she's here, and she's had a good genuine tone and pushes I think she's believed all game. I had a thought about Panini/qva world at some point but I really don't remember why and uhh, I'd like to think I'm not that off my game.

    antialiasis/Logic
    antialiasis/Panini
    Mill Crab/Panini

    Panini/RNP is probably the only RNP world that makes sense because I feel like anyone else would have broken the tie. Meanwhile Panini pushing the idea that RNP must be town because wagons is like... a good, reasonable idea I think but I feel like she specializes in good, reasonable ideas. Panini and Mill Crab have been close to lockstep toDay and it's kind of freaking me out.

    I don't think Logic is mafia.

    So Panini is my common denominator or someone is bussing and pulled a galaxy brain play? Ugly ugly.

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    god i just wish we’d lynched logic yesterDay so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mill Crab (#538)
    Can't really respond in depth to the cases on me, but Keldeo, I think at this point my only potential partners are qva or panini, so I just don't see how you still think I'm a wolf here.
    This position strikes me as leveraging my reads list from yesterDay as self defense, as if I'm not giving worlsd as much credence as I have the time for here

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    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#550)
    bad feelings about people going “yeah it would’ve been wise to stump logic just so we could confirm him one way or the other rather than get distracted by him :/“ when i said that yesterDay and we lynched the quiet guy instead
    I'm not saying it would've been wise, I'm asking whether it would've been wise... maybe, given how today is going? But we can't really know, which is frustrating

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    panini, another thing: i think logic is the best lynch right now because i think that, should he flip red which i believe he will, it’ll unify town much more than a red bfree flip. keldeo, if logic flipped red, where would that take you?

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    keldeo and butterfree/panini could just end this game if the two scum are between those three atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#550)
    did not read all of that as closely as possible but got the gist. not really dissuaded. at this point i really think it’s bfree and logic. everything else makes much less sense

    bad feelings about people going “yeah it would’ve been wise to stump logic just so we could confirm him one way or the other rather than get distracted by him :/“ when i said that yesterDay and we lynched the quiet guy instead
    What exactly doesn't make sense to you about Mill Crab/Panini?

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    yknow even if qva didn't have that D1 I still think her play here is incredibly natural so my hats off if I'm wrong about that

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    i am not smart enough to make the next logical step from what i just observed
    halp

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    Quote Originally Posted by antialiasis (#562)
    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#550)
    did not read all of that as closely as possible but got the gist. not really dissuaded. at this point i really think it’s bfree and logic. everything else makes much less sense

    bad feelings about people going “yeah it would’ve been wise to stump logic just so we could confirm him one way or the other rather than get distracted by him :/“ when i said that yesterDay and we lynched the quiet guy instead
    What exactly doesn't make sense to you about Mill Crab/Panini?
    i just really do not think panini is scum

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    ##Vote Logic

    okay

    just biting the bullet on this ig

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    i just want to say

    I dont believe town!Logic posts solely about my crow picture and not what I was obviously asking yesterday
    Like I dont see him doing that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#561)
    keldeo and butterfree/panini could just end this game if the two scum are between those three atm
    truth

    Logic +1 more likely or this is just fail safe play in case they missed a douse

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    so 3 votes on logic.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#560)
    panini, another thing: i think logic is the best lynch right now because i think that, should he flip red which i believe he will, it’ll unify town much more than a red bfree flip. keldeo, if logic flipped red, where would that take you?
    I'm having trouble picturing that world but... probably Butterfree is the most straightforward possibility? Where like she is just playing it straight and defending him. But we've been melding on why he's town and I didn't get the sense that her MC ISO was fabricated.

    Or I consider the edge cases where someone is bussing today as the path to victory later on... I think I would have to run the numbers and see for whom that's optimal, and also who gets ignited because eventually the mafia will have to do that right

    idk I guess I'm just resigned at this point

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    Keldeo is confirmed not being scum with qva/mill/panini and with logic as town

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    TCoDf Invitational II: An Abundance of Wooloos Day 3 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    3 Logic qva (13), Mill Crab (17), Panini (23)
    2 Mill Crab Keldeo (15), antialiasis (4)
    2 Not voting Redneckphoenix (1), Logic (0)

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    End day at majority is enabled. With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to reach majority.

    Day 3 ends at 4:00 PM EST on Saturday, January 18th, 2020. There are 1579381260000 remaining.

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    the lack of hammer points at 1 of the inactives being scum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#573)
    the lack of hammer points at 1 of the inactives being scum
    or... someone on the person at L-1 being scum?

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    I think this confirms that Butterfree is not scum with Mill/Panini/Qva either even tho she hasnt posted

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    inb4 hammer at 5s remaining

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    Oh $#@! I thought EoD was in an hour for some reason.

    Sighhhh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keldeo (#574)
    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#573)
    the lack of hammer points at 1 of the inactives being scum
    or... someone on the person at L-1 being scum?
    if logic is town, yes.
    Then it would be redneckphoenix since they are unable to do the hammer
    Or exactly 2 of the Logic voters.

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    so uh what happens if we mislynch again exactly

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    Guys can you not see it's Mill Crab/Panini, they can't hammer because they are both already on Logic, Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#579)
    so uh what happens if we mislynch again exactly
    We pray that the firefighter got a save or one of Logic/Chem got doused

    Otherwise we lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#579)
    so uh what happens if we mislynch again exactly
    we perish probably

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    If I'm FF

    n1 RNP
    n2 qva

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#581)
    sup
    lock scum lynch this guy this is a 100% scum tell tbqh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#583)
    Quote Originally Posted by qva (#579)
    so uh what happens if we mislynch again exactly
    we perish probably
    aka this yeah.

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    RNP/Logic is the only Logic team I really see tbh

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    mmmm. great!

    if it’s not logic then it’s not bfree imo. in that case i’ll believe mill/panini. i feel like if we got logic yesterday i could get somewhere better rn ////////

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#585)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#581)
    sup
    lock scum lynch this guy this is a 100% scum tell tbqh
    :woweek:

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    Quote Originally Posted by antialiasis (#580)
    Guys can you not see it's Mill Crab/Panini, they can't hammer because they are both already on Logic, Jesus.
    that is the second world
    too bad I cant vote
    tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#587)
    RNP/Logic is the only Logic team I really see tbh
    I do buy this though

    So

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    anyway I’m just kinda along for the ride

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    if i’m ff
    n1: keldeo
    n2: panini

    gl gl

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    glgl FF

    gg wp mafia if this is the end.

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    Keldeo/Butterfree is not the team at least

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    « Day 3 Lynch: Logic was Munmunmun..., Mafia Goon »
    TCoDf Invitational II: An Abundance of Wooloos Day 3 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    3 Logic qva (17), Mill Crab (17), Panini (24)
    2 Mill Crab Keldeo (19), antialiasis (6)
    2 Not voting Redneckphoenix (1), Logic (0)


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    End day at majority is enabled. With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to reach majority.

    Logic was lynched. They were:

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    You are Munmunmun..., Mafia Goon. Armed with your trusty Fluff Suit, your goal is to infiltrate the Wooloo Wahoo, turn the easily-influenced against each other, and burn the rest, paving the way for the Mareep Mob to take Postwick.

    You win when you reach parity with the town or nothing can prevent you from doing so.

    As #ff2244]Mafia[/COLOR], you have access to the factional Douse and Ignite Night Actions. Douse will douse a target in accelerant (unless they are protected by a Firefighter) that can be lit on any following night. Ignite will cause all Doused targets to catch fire, causing them to die at the end of the night. You cannot use Douse and Ignite on the same night. You may Douse any player that is able to post in the thread, including Stumped Treestumps and other Mafia members.

    Each night, a Mafia member must submit a factional action by PMing it to the host (bbt) by one hour before the end of the night phase at the latest. You may change your submission as many times as you would like; the last submitted action will be used. If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random to be doused from the living, non-Stumped, non-mafia players.


    Day 3 has ended.

    Day 3 ended at 4:00 PM EST on Saturday, January 18th, 2020.

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    « Night 3 Start »
    TCoDf Invitational II: An Abundance of Wooloos Night 3 Start

    Night 3 has begun.

    Please submit your night actions below the thread.

    Night 3 ends at 4:00 PM EST on Sunday, January 19th, 2020. There are 1579467660000 remaining.

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    Day 3

    Tensions were high at the dawn of the third day, as the Wahoo realized their time was running short. Nervously the Wooloos glanced from one neighbour to another, desperately searching for a flash of uncovered blue skin, perhaps a tuft of yellow wool peeking out from beneath a Fluff Suit, any sign that could point to the Mareep lurking among them...



    It took quite some time for the more vocal of the group to notice the single Wooloo huddled alone in a corner, trembling. The rest gathered around him, bleating suspiciously.

    "Baaah! ?"

    "Meeeh?"

    "Flufff flufluf."

    Logic did not reply. He shivered some more, and... was that a tinge of blue appearing on his face?

    Not taking even a moment to consider alternative explanations, the Wahoo descended upon Logic, tearing frantically at his wooly coat with their tiny little teeth. Without warning, a freakin' Eiscue burst out from... no one was sure where, squawking indignantly. For a moment, the Wooloos just stared at it in silence, nonplussed.

    Then a thready cry of triumph sounded through the air.

    "Numooo!"

    Clumps of white fur were shedding from Logic's Fluff Suit. His right braid had fallen clean off, while the left hung only by a single thread of Spinarak string. The yellow wool beneath was slicked down to his skin, soaked through by the Eiscue's melted Ice Face. As all eyes locked on him, the Mareep gulped audibly.



    Logic was lynched. He was Munmunmun..., Mafia Goon.

    As one, the others charged toward Logic, buffeting the Mareep up onto their backs. Off they went, carting Logic back to the gate that had started this all, where they tossed him back into the Slumbering Weald with a deafening "Beh eh eh!". He did not return.

    To this day, no one knows what became of the Eiscue.

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Bodyguard Jailkeeper

The Bodyguard Jailkeeper may each night target another player, simultaneously roleblocking them and protecting them from attacks. If the target is attacked, the Bodyguard Jailkeeper will die in their stead.