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    Make Thankers Visible to Non-Thankers

    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    Last edited by Makaze; February 11th, 2020 at 06:17 PM.

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    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

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    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#2)
    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    +1
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#122)
    bbtbh wolf because bbt actually made reads
    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#24)
    bbt would never be less than 100% serious!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#2)
    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    I thanked this post solely to mildly inconvenience Jaleb while simultaneously proving his point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#2)
    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    I thanked this post solely to mildly inconvenience Jaleb while simultaneously proving his point.
    I figured
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#2)
    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    I thanked this post solely to mildly inconvenience Jaleb while simultaneously proving his point.
    If only I was able to see that you had done this it would have been funnier as you would not have needed to explain the joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#1)
    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    The point of hiding them is to stop people sheeping thanks

    Thank things you like, what does it matter who else thanked it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#1)
    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    The point of hiding them is to stop people sheeping thanks

    Thank things you like, what does it matter who else thanked it
    someone thanked this post

    but im not going to tell you who


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    fishing for more thanks smh

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    This feature was originally available with this add on and I removed it deliberately because I have a pet peeve about the Matthew effect.

    Sorry.
    I hold you in the highest regard, my friends.


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    Still need to remove popping out tabs
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#11)
    Still need to remove popping out tabs
    That doesn't happen to me. Sounds like some kind of default link behavior for your browser.
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    my pet peeve is when things are forcibly opened in new tabs

    if I want the thing opened in a new tab I can middle-click it but there's no way to tell a link that opens in a new tab to actually open in the same tab instead

    pls Makaze
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#122)
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    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#24)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#11)
    Still need to remove popping out tabs
    That doesn't happen to me. Sounds like some kind of default link behavior for your browser.
    Weird, mentions doesn't do it though, only thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Thank one of my posts so I can see what you mean.
    I hold you in the highest regard, my friends.


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    <a href="https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24976-Make-Thankers-Visible-to-Non-Thankers?p=3732493#post3732493" target="_blank">Make Thankers Visible to Non-Thankers</a>

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    @Makaze it looks like the issue is how you formatted the links to them. I'm not sure how to edit it for my browser, but mentions are just a showthread while the thanks are full urls. Maybe cause it thinks it's sending me to a foreign site?

    Though, I just tested it and didn't seem to work when I edited the inspect menu
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Are you talking about on your profile page or in the notification popup at the top of the page?
    I hold you in the highest regard, my friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#17)
    Are you talking about on your profile page or in the notification popup at the top of the page?
    Profile page.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#4961)
    it was jaleb

    @Jaleb is a god
    ??Frog ??Last Thursday at 8:11 AM
    ok dudes
    you can discuss the event here if you want

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:05 AM
    Done, will take my prize now
    I do have a 1900 rating in solving tactics :smiley:

    AndrewGreve(night vig/39%ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    hey
    i dont know chess tactics
    should I try?

    Jaleb (RB/1% ITA)Last Thursday at 8:10 AM
    1. Bf6 2. Qh7 3. Rf7 4. Nh6 5. Re5 6. ... Qh3 7. Qd8 8. h7 9. ... Ne5+; fxe5 h5 10. ... Bg1; Kg3 Qf2; Kh3 Qh2 i you want the answer, not that it matters
    if*

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    Jaleb, you're lowkey Magnus

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    Fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#8)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#1)
    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    The point of hiding them is to stop people sheeping thanks

    Thank things you like, what does it matter who else thanked it
    someone thanked this post

    but im not going to tell you who

    dammit!

    can't unthank!

    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    This feature was originally available with this add on and I removed it deliberately because I have a pet peeve about the Matthew effect.

    Sorry.
    There's a link to the most thanked users, posts, and threads, so this rationale makes no sense?
    Last edited by Zack; February 12th, 2020 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#21)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    This feature was originally available with this add on and I removed it deliberately because I have a pet peeve about the Matthew effect.

    Sorry.
    There's a link to the most thanked users, posts, and threads, so this rationale makes no sense?
    Those are pretty limited instances and to show up that requires a ton of people to have decided to thank a post independently now? Suppose at the start it might have meant something but people either need to all like something now or deliberately coordinate to beat it I'd imagine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#21)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    This feature was originally available with this add on and I removed it deliberately because I have a pet peeve about the Matthew effect.

    Sorry.
    There's a link to the most thanked users, posts, and threads, so this rationale makes no sense?
    so like a handful of posts out of hundreds of thousands have escaped the system

    better tear it all down and start over

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    I mean those posts are the ones by far the most likely to experience the Matthew effect or whatever

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    Point being, not allowing anyone to see it is pretty dumb and arbitrary

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    it just doesn't make sense to me in the first place, either

    it's not like thanking posts means anything other than, you know... thanking someone for making a post you enjoyed or appreciated in some way. This "system" is in place to prevent ... more people from thanking someone for a popular post? Who cares? Why is that even a bad thing anyways?

    I'm on other forums where it's all public who likes what post and let me tell you the amount of times it's ever been the slightest problem: zero times.

    I don't even care about this issue but the stubborn illogic in rejecting it irks me. It's a harmless minor feature, and going out of the way to actively disable it is... Lol
    Last edited by Zack; February 12th, 2020 at 06:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#26)
    it just doesn't make sense to me in the first place, either

    it's not like thanking posts means anything other than, you know... thanking someone for making a post you enjoyed or appreciated in some way. This "system" is in place to prevent ... more people from thanking someone for a popular post? Who cares? Why is that even a bad thing anyways?

    I'm on other forums where it's all public who likes what post and let me tell you the amount of times it's ever been the slightest problem: zero times.

    I don't even care about this issue but the stubborn illogic in rejecting it irks me. It's a harmless minor feature, and going out of the way to actively disable it is... Lol
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#2)
    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    I thanked this post solely to mildly inconvenience Jaleb while simultaneously proving his point.
    Beck thanked this post.
    leaping up into the air getting juiced up beyond belief

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beck (#28)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#2)
    More important: can thanks alerts stop opening up a new tab when we click to view the post?
    I thanked this post solely to mildly inconvenience Jaleb while simultaneously proving his point.
    Beck thanked this post.
    And Zork thanked the post in which Beck indicated the post he thanked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#26)
    it just doesn't make sense to me in the first place, either

    it's not like thanking posts means anything other than, you know... thanking someone for making a post you enjoyed or appreciated in some way. This "system" is in place to prevent ... more people from thanking someone for a popular post? Who cares? Why is that even a bad thing anyways?

    I'm on other forums where it's all public who likes what post and let me tell you the amount of times it's ever been the slightest problem: zero times.

    I don't even care about this issue but the stubborn illogic in rejecting it irks me. It's a harmless minor feature, and going out of the way to actively disable it is... Lol
    Makaze isn't disabling the thanking of posts entirely; Mak wants people to not just follow the crowd and thank a post just because other users have already thanked it. If it's really thank-worthy, you the user get to be the arbiter of that decision, not the crowd. By hiding the individuals that have already thanked that post, you come to the post clean, and decide on whether to thank it without the influence of others, but on the merits of the post alone.

    EDIT: Or, because Apoc said it much more concisely:
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#1)
    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    The point of hiding them is to stop people sheeping thanks

    Thank things you like, what does it matter who else thanked it
    Last edited by Logic; February 13th, 2020 at 11:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#26)
    it just doesn't make sense to me in the first place, either

    it's not like thanking posts means anything other than, you know... thanking someone for making a post you enjoyed or appreciated in some way. This "system" is in place to prevent ... more people from thanking someone for a popular post? Who cares? Why is that even a bad thing anyways?

    I'm on other forums where it's all public who likes what post and let me tell you the amount of times it's ever been the slightest problem: zero times.

    I don't even care about this issue but the stubborn illogic in rejecting it irks me. It's a harmless minor feature, and going out of the way to actively disable it is... Lol
    It's been a problem on a daily basis for those communities, but people don't actively realize that cognitive biases are impacting their decisions, so they don't see it as a problem and believe that it was made without bias because they don't feel biased.

    I'd rather eliminate the bias directly than argue about it.
    Last edited by Makaze; February 13th, 2020 at 11:39 AM.
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    I understand the bias, I just don't understand why it's a problem for something so trivial. Seriously, why does it matter if more people thank a post? What issue is this creating? Idgi

    And that the existence of "here are the top 5 most liked posts on the site" is a strange contradiction with that reasoning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logic (#30)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#26)
    it just doesn't make sense to me in the first place, either

    it's not like thanking posts means anything other than, you know... thanking someone for making a post you enjoyed or appreciated in some way. This "system" is in place to prevent ... more people from thanking someone for a popular post? Who cares? Why is that even a bad thing anyways?

    I'm on other forums where it's all public who likes what post and let me tell you the amount of times it's ever been the slightest problem: zero times.

    I don't even care about this issue but the stubborn illogic in rejecting it irks me. It's a harmless minor feature, and going out of the way to actively disable it is... Lol
    Makaze isn't disabling the thanking of posts entirely; Mak wants people to not just follow the crowd and thank a post just because other users have already thanked it. If it's really thank-worthy, you the user get to be the arbiter of that decision, not the crowd. By hiding the individuals that have already thanked that post, you come to the post clean, and decide on whether to thank it without the influence of others, but on the merits of the post alone.

    EDIT: Or, because Apoc said it much more concisely:
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#1)
    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    The point of hiding them is to stop people sheeping thanks

    Thank things you like, what does it matter who else thanked it
    I should be allowed to absorb whatever information is publicly available to help me decide how I want to respond to a post. When I see folks thanking a post whose insight I trust based on my past experiences with those folks, I may give a second consideration to the post and see something in it that I glossed over on the first read that may inspire me to take the extra step of showing my appreciation for such a post.

    Intentionally hiding the ball shows you don't trust that our decision to thank someone isn't merely a matter of following the crowd.

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    I appreciate when my posts get multiple thanks because I know each person thanked it on its merit rather than others potentially thanking my post because those they trust or respect thanked. Makes the thanking about the poster and not the thankers.
    ? ?_? ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#34)
    I appreciate when my posts get multiple thanks because I know each person thanked it on its merit rather than others potentially thanking my post because those they trust or respect thanked. Makes the thanking about the poster and not the thankers.
    ^^this
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    ok so what if you decide not to thank a post but you want to know who did thank it

    Can we click on a button that reveals that? I'm even willing to have it so that by clicking on that reveal you can no longer thank it.

    That gives us our information without sacrificing that effect you mentioned.

    But now we're probably talking extra work for very little benefit so it's OK if you say nah.

    TTHRIC. Thank you for responding, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#32)
    I understand the bias, I just don't understand why it's a problem for something so trivial. Seriously, why does it matter if more people thank a post? What issue is this creating? Idgi

    And that the existence of "here are the top 5 most liked posts on the site" is a strange contradiction with that reasoning
    It comes from what I liked about the original reputation system from another site. Thanks are a lot more trivial, but like with most things, even a small problem is still a problem.

    I didn't know that was a thing until now. I'll probably get rid of it soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#33)
    Quote Originally Posted by Logic (#30)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#26)
    it just doesn't make sense to me in the first place, either

    it's not like thanking posts means anything other than, you know... thanking someone for making a post you enjoyed or appreciated in some way. This "system" is in place to prevent ... more people from thanking someone for a popular post? Who cares? Why is that even a bad thing anyways?

    I'm on other forums where it's all public who likes what post and let me tell you the amount of times it's ever been the slightest problem: zero times.

    I don't even care about this issue but the stubborn illogic in rejecting it irks me. It's a harmless minor feature, and going out of the way to actively disable it is... Lol
    Makaze isn't disabling the thanking of posts entirely; Mak wants people to not just follow the crowd and thank a post just because other users have already thanked it. If it's really thank-worthy, you the user get to be the arbiter of that decision, not the crowd. By hiding the individuals that have already thanked that post, you come to the post clean, and decide on whether to thank it without the influence of others, but on the merits of the post alone.

    EDIT: Or, because Apoc said it much more concisely:
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zork (#1)
    Please have a thanked post display the names of everyone who thanked that post to everyone, not just those who thanked the post.
    The point of hiding them is to stop people sheeping thanks

    Thank things you like, what does it matter who else thanked it
    I should be allowed to absorb whatever information is publicly available to help me decide how I want to respond to a post. When I see folks thanking a post whose insight I trust based on my past experiences with those folks, I may give a second consideration to the post and see something in it that I glossed over on the first read that may inspire me to take the extra step of showing my appreciation for such a post.

    Intentionally hiding the ball shows you don't trust that our decision to thank someone isn't merely a matter of following the crowd.
    It is not publicly available information.

    That is correct. I don't trust you to be aware of your own cognitive bias. Even if I could, I couldn't trust you not to overcompensate and avoid liking things that already have likes. With cognitive biases it's better to remove the question in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#34)
    I appreciate when my posts get multiple thanks because I know each person thanked it on its merit rather than others potentially thanking my post because those they trust or respect thanked. Makes the thanking about the poster and not the thankers.
    I can understand that,I suppose

    Casting it as a problematic bias just seemed melodramatic and it bugged me lol

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