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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1001)
    Re: my reads, I tried not to have any more null reads, so I could flesh out my POE more – in case it's unclear, my POE is everyone from w downwards:

    TripleHaven
    senorsalt
    Kajot
    Whitewater
    Learning

    I'm still not happy with the Poison wagon. I have to eat and then do a little stuff IRL, but when I'm back I'll make a case for Poison town.
    What do people think of Kajot/Whitewater/learning? Those are the three people I'd be best with voting today.
    Scum seems like not seriously interacting with Triple at all, being nulled by them, not pushed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1065)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius9121 (#1032)
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitewater Hysteria (#1029)
    Kajot
    learningWW
    Poison
    Thunal33
    Whitewater Hysteria

    senorsalt
    Sirius9121
    warren42

    Dumb Cat
    Ephemera

    TripleHaven
    YOLOSWAG
    Things that make no sense:
    1. Why is Triplehaven at the very bottom?
    2. Why am I having a higher rank than DC while 99.8% of my vote and reads are based off him?
    3. Why are you the 5th?
    4. Why do you trust Poison and Learning so much?
    This post is probably the towniest post I've seen this game, if you take each post in a vacuum. + town points for this, and my wolfread on Whitewater is growing a bit stronger.
    Especially if Triple is scum here are a lot reasons why Sirius was chosen as vig. And WWH GOAT tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#1177)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1174)
    if we're agreeing to shoot the counterwagon shall we let it rand?
    no

    cuz i don't trust villagers to not throw
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1184)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1174)
    if we're agreeing to shoot the counterwagon shall we let it rand?
    oh dang i just realized that the counterwagon (if the Whitewater wagon pulls through) is Poison.
    afdkkasjdlasfd but I townread her thoughhhhh

    still consensus shooting the counterwagon is the best move for town here – if the flip is green.
    If the flip is red – and if it's whitewater i think it will be – interactions should dictate the shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#1186)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#1180)
    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#1177)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1174)
    if we're agreeing to shoot the counterwagon shall we let it rand?
    no

    cuz i don't trust villagers to not throw
    What about either person do you find villagery?
    whitewater can go. poison is null for me but the wagon looks ok i think

    i'm more talking about a villager taking a hero shot. i see villas flub prs/mechanics all the time so ya


    This is very in favour of Poison.

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    Kajot, you've convinced me.

    I'll put you and Thunal as my two never shoots and never lynches.

    Triple still feels villagery to me, by iso. I said why on several occasions but I am okay with dropping her from the lock clears.

    You're next up. Welcome to circlesville, population: townies.

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    @Dumb Cat
    @Haze with a Z

    I can't wait for your reaction for these news!

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    "TripleHaven (17), senorsalt (2), Haze with a Z (35)"

    guess all the woofs are in here.

    Call a shot, Senor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#2154)
    Kajot, you've convinced me.

    I'll put you and Thunal as my two never shoots and never lynches.

    Triple still feels villagery to me, by iso. I said why on several occasions but I am okay with dropping her from the lock clears.

    You're next up. Welcome to circlesville, population: townies.
    o/

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    I don't think it matters, he's just a wolf here a lot of the time.

    If he does flip villager my shots are within the poe. That is all.

    I also won't be the vengeshooter unless the wolf team is exactly Thunal and Kajot, which is dumb.

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    @TripleHaven

    Can you go over Kajot's last few pages and gimme your reaction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#2158)
    I don't think it matters, he's just a wolf here a lot of the time.

    If he does flip villager my shots are within the poe. That is all.

    I also won't be the vengeshooter unless the wolf team is exactly Thunal and Kajot, which is dumb.
    What do you think about TH now? I think Salt/TH is the most likely wolf team, and TH hasn't interacted much with the wolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#2153)
    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#1177)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1174)
    if we're agreeing to shoot the counterwagon shall we let it rand?
    no

    cuz i don't trust villagers to not throw
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1184)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1174)
    if we're agreeing to shoot the counterwagon shall we let it rand?
    oh dang i just realized that the counterwagon (if the Whitewater wagon pulls through) is Poison.
    afdkkasjdlasfd but I townread her thoughhhhh

    still consensus shooting the counterwagon is the best move for town here – if the flip is green.
    If the flip is red – and if it's whitewater i think it will be – interactions should dictate the shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#1186)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#1180)
    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#1177)
    no

    cuz i don't trust villagers to not throw
    What about either person do you find villagery?
    whitewater can go. poison is null for me but the wagon looks ok i think

    i'm more talking about a villager taking a hero shot. i see villas flub prs/mechanics all the time so ya


    This is very in favour of Poison.
    Yeah, that does seem like setting up a town vig shot.

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    I'm feeling quite good about our towncore with DC/Thunal/me and as long as this is correct this is a town win. Not sure if I'll be around EoD but don't think there's much to discuss.

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    My gut still says thunal. Sorry I can't be bothered btw. Past week, have had the rona. But ill happily accept the lynch and be freed from this game.

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    I'll react to kajot's posts dumb cat juat gotta read em first lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorsalt (#2165)
    My gut still says thunal. Sorry I can't be bothered btw. Past week, have had the rona. But ill happily accept the lynch and be freed from this game.
    oh my god, stay safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#2119)
    Did Haze/Triple even claim their shots? Couldn't find it. Not that it matters...
    I shot salt last night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#2130)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#343)
    gonna post reads
    v: Poison, Yoloswag
    v leans: Kajot, senorsalt. very light v on learningww and empherma
    nulls: everyone else not listed
    wolf lean on dumb cat and thunal, slightly stronger wolf lean on apogee and wwh
    Now this is actually worrisome
    Literally everyone was wrong D1 on their reads. Dumb cat espesially was, who you're townreading. How is it more worrisome then Dumb Cat? I'm NOT saying that dumb cat is scum, I think the game is solved right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#2141)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1638)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1625)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#1624)
    I hope I have redeemed myself as a competent villager since that game.

    My town core was town town town town town then wolf at the bottom or something, by the end.

    I don't suck I'm just.... really really really weird.
    "I don't suck, I'm just...a wolf"

    -every wolf rn ig
    i mean pretty much
    Ist this a confession
    you must be a contortionist with that stretch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#2144)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1643)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1642)
    The only reservation I have about ephemera is that IDK if two wolves would claim the apogee shot yesterday.
    actually im thinking about it more and wolves would definitely do that
    this is actually really funny

    ALSO... kajot says that yoloswag saying poision is null is a good thing but earlier says that scum reading me null is bad. Why is it different when poision is nullread?

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    Like, there's so many inconsistencies with Kajot's case but dumb cat just takes it up instantly.

    Kajot and Dumb Cat are buddying up so much that I truly think we're just $#@!ed here and it's both of them.

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    trying to call me scum because my d1 reads were bad and just completely ignoring that literally everyone elses were too is inherently scummy.

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    to be fair, i could totally just see kajot being scum here. They're not cleared in any way shape or form until Dumb Cat flips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2172)
    to be fair, i could totally just see kajot being scum here. They're not cleared in any way shape or form until Dumb Cat flips.
    And this is only if Dumb Cat flips scum ofc

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    Also how is it scummy at all if I forgot about WWH claiming the apoggee shot? YOU did too. Are you saying you're scummy?

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    im alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2170)
    Like, there's so many inconsistencies with Kajot's case but dumb cat just takes it up instantly.

    Kajot and Dumb Cat are buddying up so much that I truly think we're just $#@!ed here and it's both of them.
    It's most definitely not, I thought there were a couple of good points but I mostly just wanted to get you to look at them and see what you think her alignment is.

    I felt like she was still solving rather than skating out the round, but I had issues with her yesterday when she claimed the shot and it didn't really make sense for that to be the case.

    I still have you as town, it's a race between you and thunal and kajot for my top 2 slots.

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    but whatever, there's no time to switch wagons if no one is here, and salt going to f3 (if he isn't scum) is terrible for us anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#2176)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2170)
    Like, there's so many inconsistencies with Kajot's case but dumb cat just takes it up instantly.

    Kajot and Dumb Cat are buddying up so much that I truly think we're just $#@!ed here and it's both of them.
    It's most definitely not, I thought there were a couple of good points but I mostly just wanted to get you to look at them and see what you think her alignment is.

    I felt like she was still solving rather than skating out the round, but I had issues with her yesterday when she claimed the shot and it didn't really make sense for that to be the case.

    I still have you as town, it's a race between you and thunal and kajot for my top 2 slots.
    thats ok

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    A lot of my Kajot read is based on just being scum with her in Marble, plus your own opinion of her.

    If you think she's in a scum range, tell me right now, please.

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    Everything she just posted just made me more worried but like... I think we're still fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2177)
    but whatever, there's no time to switch wagons if no one is here, and salt going to f3 (if he isn't scum) is terrible for us anyways.
    Yeah, it's mechanically correct plus we have the vengeshot.

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    If Senor is town, just carefully reasses the last round overnight, pick a goat vengeshot and we're back in it.

    Town wins this game a lot based on just picking good venge. If it's a secret venge, it's uncounterable except by luck.

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    Semi worst case, a next day:

    Assuming the game isn't over, remember that the venge and the NK target can stack.

    If I'm dead tomorrow morning, do not forget this mechanical detail when someone claims a vengeshot.

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    ##Vote senorsalt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#2183)
    Semi worst case, a next day:

    Assuming the game isn't over, remember that the venge and the NK target can stack.

    If I'm dead tomorrow morning, do not forget this mechanical detail when someone claims a vengeshot.
    bookmarked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#2061)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius9121 (#1030)
    Quote Originally Posted by Poison (#1027)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunal33 (#746)
    Learning's "I figured out the wolf team" pings me since I completely disagree on the wolf team. I know I'm town, and I townread both Poison and Eph. It kind of feels like setting up mislynches/misvigs.
    Yea that is true though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitewater Hysteria (#751)
    yoloswag's kajot vote is garbage and he's probably mafia because he didn't die last night
    I would agree with this Yolo read. But since 3 cheers was an equally likely person to get NKed, I won't press on it, cause by posts Yolo does come out town like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitewater Hysteria (#752)
    Dumb Cat - probably wolf
    Ephemera - probably village
    Kajot - probably village
    learningWW - probably village
    Poison - probably village
    senorsalt - probably village
    Sirius9121 - probably village
    Thunal33 - probably village
    TripleHaven - probably wolf
    warren42 - probably wolf
    Whitewater Hysteria - probably village
    YOLOSWAG - probably wolf
    Why is sirius town exactly? And Thunal too? Interestingly Triple is wolf in your list?
    @Poison
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    Avada Kedavra
    This is a really bad Poison post. 1. Agree on YOLO read but [defending him] 2. Questioning townread on town (if Thunal wolf, fair) and 3. Sounds like TMI on Triple town? Since she got picked as vig wolves are quite likely to townread her
    You can’t judge my role based on if I defend someone. I don’t know who the mafia team is and townspeople can be wrong about this. My slot thought that they seemed like town and so they town read them and defended them. If we am questioning a town read on a townsperson, it is the same thing. We think they are a wolf and we don’t know why someone else town reads them.

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    ##Vote senorsalt

    I don’t wanna be CFDed

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    Sorry everyone that I came latw to eod. I just woke up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2170)
    Like, there's so many inconsistencies with Kajot's case but dumb cat just takes it up instantly.

    Kajot and Dumb Cat are buddying up so much that I truly think we're just $#@!ed here and it's both of them.
    Well thunal’s also been sheeping kajot a bunch too. It was basically the same thing I didn’t like that sirius was doing to cat(although I was wrong on that one)

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    Did everyone leave or something?

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    Yeah don't like this end of day.

    Welp. Venge well folks.

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    « Day 4 Elimination: senorsalt was Vanilla Town
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    As before, all night action orders are due 1 hour prior to SOD/EON.

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Suicide Bomber

The Suicide Bomber may once per game choose a target to suicide bomb during a day phase, killing both the Suicide Bomber and the target.