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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1602)
    Okay, thinking about it some more I'm thinking at least one of sirius/salt is a wolf, maybe both.

    See, Yolo was playing the deepwolf route – he was highly townread by quite a few players, and played the part of the active towncore member.
    I think his scummates may have played different roles – which, for sirius, salt, or both, is the under the radar wolf. Lurking in thread, contributing a little, but overall not doing enough to help town but not enough reads or thoughts to get suspected for being wrong or weird progressions.

    Salt I think is less likely – his ISO is very short, and I think a wolf trying to play under the radar would go for at least a little more content to pass as inactive townie. Sirius feels just like that – when ISOing him the length is decent, but there weren't too many actual thoughts given, and quite a bit is sheeping DC – which I find questionable for two reasons (sheeping + there's just something off about DC).

    Scumteam could be something like yolo/sirius (or salt)/a couple mid-posters? That's where I'm at right now.

    ##Vote Sirius9121
    The timing of this belongs in the mafia HOF

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    Everyone hides when I come to the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1652)
    Everyone hides when I come to the thread
    im here but at this point i really jsut want a flip lmao

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    also im working on another game i'll be hosting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haze with a Z (#1629)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1584)
    I'm kinda curious about everyone's shots. I doubt it's saying anything about the future so it would help mafia, it's rather encouraging discussion.
    I shot thunal last night and idk about n1.
    This actually looks towny because scum would probably just make up an N1 shot instead of saying they forgot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1602)
    Okay, thinking about it some more I'm thinking at least one of sirius/salt is a wolf, maybe both.

    See, Yolo was playing the deepwolf route – he was highly townread by quite a few players, and played the part of the active towncore member.
    I think his scummates may have played different roles – which, for sirius, salt, or both, is the under the radar wolf. Lurking in thread, contributing a little, but overall not doing enough to help town but not enough reads or thoughts to get suspected for being wrong or weird progressions.

    Salt I think is less likely – his ISO is very short, and I think a wolf trying to play under the radar would go for at least a little more content to pass as inactive townie. Sirius feels just like that – when ISOing him the length is decent, but there weren't too many actual thoughts given, and quite a bit is sheeping DC – which I find questionable for two reasons (sheeping + there's just something off about DC).

    Scumteam could be something like yolo/sirius (or salt)/a couple mid-posters? That's where I'm at right now.

    ##Vote Sirius9121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1637)
    Alright, this is never town.

    ##Vote senorsalt
    Yeah, Salt definitely could have contributed but he didn't.

    ##Vote senorsalt

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    Uh, salt played freakin turbos yesterday. He has no excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb Cat (#1640)
    We need to line up agreed upon 2 candidates that are at the very very very very least wolf and villager


    Ones we all pretty much agree on

    And always shoot, no matter how the first one flips

    Otherwise we give wolves counterplay


    Name your 2 shots, always lynch + shoot these 2 people:

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    I was thinking salt and warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1652)
    Everyone hides when I come to the thread
    Why you wait till everyone leaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1652)
    Everyone hides when I come to the thread :(
    Well you come during when I am having lunch or am offline doing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1658)
    Uh, salt played freakin turbos yesterday. He has no excuses.
    I was in a turbo with him and he was active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunal33 (#1655)
    Quote Originally Posted by Haze with a Z (#1629)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1584)
    I'm kinda curious about everyone's shots. I doubt it's saying anything about the future so it would help mafia, it's rather encouraging discussion.
    I shot thunal last night and idk about n1.
    This actually looks towny because scum would probably just make up an N1 shot instead of saying they forgot.
    Poison submit n1, Haze n2, no? I see this more as NAI

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    Also Warren, did you tell us your shots already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1643)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1642)
    The only reservation I have about ephemera is that IDK if two wolves would claim the apogee shot yesterday.
    actually im thinking about it more and wolves would definitely do that
    Can you spell this out like I'm a child? I don't feel like that's something wolves wouldn't do, but I don't see why they definitely would do either.

    The claim on the Apogee shot is NAI from my POV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1665)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1643)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1642)
    The only reservation I have about ephemera is that IDK if two wolves would claim the apogee shot yesterday.
    actually im thinking about it more and wolves would definitely do that
    Can you spell this out like I'm a child? I don't feel like that's something wolves wouldn't do, but I don't see why they definitely would do either.

    The claim on the Apogee shot is NAI from my POV?
    Not really since claiming it has advantages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1664)
    Also Warren, did you tell us your shots already?
    No, I don't see how that's helpful to anyone but scum as they can get to work on evaluating a pattern and probably better predict each person's shots? I'll confirm I definitely didn't shoot apogee or yolo.

    If there's a pro-town purpose to everyone outting shots I'm happy to but I don't see one at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1666)
    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1665)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1643)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1642)
    The only reservation I have about ephemera is that IDK if two wolves would claim the apogee shot yesterday.
    actually im thinking about it more and wolves would definitely do that
    Can you spell this out like I'm a child? I don't feel like that's something wolves wouldn't do, but I don't see why they definitely would do either.

    The claim on the Apogee shot is NAI from my POV?
    Not really since claiming it has advantages
    Can you explain what they are to me? I asked in that post and you just said "they exist."

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1667)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1664)
    Also Warren, did you tell us your shots already?
    No, I don't see how that's helpful to anyone but scum as they can get to work on evaluating a pattern and probably better predict each person's shots? I'll confirm I definitely didn't shoot apogee or yolo.

    If there's a pro-town purpose to everyone outting shots I'm happy to but I don't see one at the moment?
    I think it is. I don't see how scum is getting any advantage from it and it can encourage discussion or like show where your mind was and if that shot is believable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1668)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1666)
    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#1665)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#1643)
    actually im thinking about it more and wolves would definitely do that
    Can you spell this out like I'm a child? I don't feel like that's something wolves wouldn't do, but I don't see why they definitely would do either.

    The claim on the Apogee shot is NAI from my POV?
    Not really since claiming it has advantages
    Can you explain what they are to me? I asked in that post and you just said "they exist."
    Well, one of the claimers has to be town. If only one person claims is they are lock town what scum would try to avoid. Scum might also be less likely lynched due to being "the vig"

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    Also, I think we are at a point in the game where we can openly talk about who we are going to shoot. If we do is another thing but consensus might not be too bad now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1663)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunal33 (#1655)
    Quote Originally Posted by Haze with a Z (#1629)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1584)
    I'm kinda curious about everyone's shots. I doubt it's saying anything about the future so it would help mafia, it's rather encouraging discussion.
    I shot thunal last night and idk about n1.
    This actually looks towny because scum would probably just make up an N1 shot instead of saying they forgot.
    Poison submit n1, Haze n2, no? I see this more as NAI
    Oh, I forgot about that. Haze is still town though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1671)
    Also, I think we are at a point in the game where we can openly talk about who we are going to shoot. If we do is another thing but consensus might not be too bad now.
    If we can make a consensus, sure. If everyone in the game wants to shoot a different person then it's still a bad idea for everyone to say who they'll shoot, then wolves will just pick someone who's going to shoot a townie.

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    We may also do something like lynch salt, direct Ephemera and Warren (if till then something else is wished, fine) target each other and the others choose between the two silently? Does that help in any way?

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    Salt for the yeet as that is not lock and can sometimes be a potato. This way everyone who votes this person is accountable for the flip.

    or a silmarils in Mafia in Space, see day 4.


    Ephemera for the vengeshot.

    Reassess Warren tomorrow

    Sirius still town, Thunal town, Triple town, Kajot likely town, Haze likely town.


    I am fine with reversing the order. I'd like to get the harder to catch person first. Ephemera is here playing to their wincon, salt is skating and could continue to skate if people let him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajot (#1674)
    We may also do something like lynch salt, direct Ephemera and Warren (if till then something else is wished, fine) target each other and the others choose between the two silently? Does that help in any way?
    I like the plan to ask them to cross shoot each other, it adds stability to what could otherwise be a loophole in our shots.

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