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    frag has a meta read on pixi and I think it maybe was a bit of a too much too soon, but there arent many qualified to read pixi that fast other than him. at least based on what im hearing here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin (#146)
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#46)
    Quote Originally Posted by rusty (#45)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#20)
    forgot about this game lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#29)
    Alright, let me just throw something up in the air to get something started.

    Mantichora's enterance feels like someone randed scum and was not enthused
    Frag's vote could be an early distancing attempt.
    How on earth did you gather that from this? And why would you assume a vote would be an early distancing attempt, that is a super strange thing to occur to you out of the gate

    Also hello again familiar faces
    @rusty, it's clearly an early joke.
    Is it one of those, "it's funny because it's true!" jokes?
    @Colin

    What was the point of this post? Are you pointing out how awkward it is that virt used the "I was just kidding" defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin (#153)
    I think moth is stretching a little bit, but I can see where he's coming from (knowing him). I think he just feels he's on to something and it's an early gotcha, but I don't think that's the case. Glow's responses are in line with what I'd expect from her as town. I'm going to try not to underestimate her but my initial feelings are pretty good there. I actually care more about her enjoying the game then figuring out her alignment tbh.

    @PixiGlow try not to be brought down by aggressive interactions and feel dejected. moth can come across abrasive and it can be hard to not let that tilt you, but he's a good guy with good intentions (as town) and if he's a wolf his logic train comes off the rails over time and if that's the case we can just kill him and mock his poor wolfing (in my experience at least). I am still learning on this myself and it took me a few minutes to shake off my annoyance and feeling that moth sucked the fun out of the game.
    Okay I'm down with colin this game. Mindmelding irt moth and I think him trying to assuage glow and encourage her participation is +EV for town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#29)
    Alright, let me just throw something up in the air to get something started.

    Mantichora's enterance feels like someone randed scum and was not enthused
    Frag's vote could be an early distancing attempt.
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#33)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#21)
    Also I think that's my contributions to the game for d1 (but not really) see you guys in the graveyard chat when I get mislynched or killed n1. GG Ez.
    This honestly feels really wolfy
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#43)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#36)
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#29)
    Alright, let me just throw something up in the air to get something started.

    Mantichora's enterance feels like someone randed scum and was not enthused
    Frag's vote could be an early distancing attempt.
    I think slenderman would be impressed with how long your reaching here.
    Hey we gotta start somewhere, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#46)
    Quote Originally Posted by rusty (#45)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#20)
    forgot about this game lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#29)
    Alright, let me just throw something up in the air to get something started.

    Mantichora's enterance feels like someone randed scum and was not enthused
    Frag's vote could be an early distancing attempt.
    How on earth did you gather that from this? And why would you assume a vote would be an early distancing attempt, that is a super strange thing to occur to you out of the gate

    Also hello again familiar faces
    @rusty, it's clearly an early joke.
    This progression is awkward.

    Now to be fair its possible that virt was joking in P#29 and developed a serious read in P#33 but P#43 doesn't feel like he's joking.

    Right now I'm moreso leaning that virt threw out an airball hoping hed look like he was solving. So I like rusty's push in P#156 as well.

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    Im not sure. Colin could be buddying pixi in a condescending manner. to me the tone of his consolation reads like domt worry pixi, moth is just aggressive, its okay, everything will be juuuuust fine

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    duke any take on wisdom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#160)
    Rusty have we played? I recognize your avatar so bad it hurts.
    It's the Third Eye Blind album art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#169)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#167)
    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#77)
    wtf where is percy. hes the one who asked me to play
    Kinda wanna tr moth off this but for a really bad reason. I have a theory that mafia are more aware of the line-up because they're trying to strategize pushes etc so moth not knowing percy is in the game is agl
    I dont know how you can live with yourself using such atricious reasoning. Considering I fake townslips almost religiously
    Hmmm is moth debunking my town read as a gambit to accumulate more town points for not accepting an easy town read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#175)
    Duke is his usual self. dastardly, unpredictable.
    You forgot to call me handsome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#205)
    Im not sure. Colin could be buddying pixi in a condescending manner. to me the tone of his consolation reads like domt worry pixi, moth is just aggressive, its okay, everything will be juuuuust fine
    I read it more of Colin trying to steer town in the right direction more then trying to pocket. If that's what you meant. Maybe I'm reading that the wrong way or don't understand the terms you're using. Colin typically goes hard early as town to try to keep town moving in a positive direction to solve the game, and his interactions with Glow just seemed to kind of read off that way to me.

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    This is pretty unrelated to the game but perhaps it should be said.

    I do not target women in mafia games. I dont hate women. I have no idea why im having to clarify this but just in case anyone thinks I am a misogynist or that I hate women I certainly dont. I could provide you with more information on this in a DM in a out of game situation but I am quite disturbed at the notion that I unfairly target women in mafia games. I have no idea where this sentiment comes from or why it exists but I have never played mafia games in a manner which attacks women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#181)
    Moth targeting the only(?) two women in the game feels more like blatant sexism than reads

    There, someone said it

    And now you all know why I usually keep him on ignore
    This is a wild ad hominem attack out of nowhere. Dafuq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#206)
    duke any take on wisdom?
    I think hes leaning scum atm I dont like how he made a dichotomy in his reads list. It feels like he was okay with letting you and glow continue on.

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    Daisy was the person who asked me to play. It wasnt even percy. I cant imagine daisy asking me to play if she thinks I am a sexist pig. But this gets into things that shouldnt be in the game. suffice it to say, its unfortunate 3 of my pushes so far are on rusty, daisy and pixi.
    But has zero to do with gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#211)
    This is pretty unrelated to the game but perhaps it should be said.

    I do not target women in mafia games. I dont hate women. I have no idea why im having to clarify this but just in case anyone thinks I am a misogynist or that I hate women I certainly dont. I could provide you with more information on this in a DM in a out of game situation but I am quite disturbed at the notion that I unfairly target women in mafia games. I have no idea where this sentiment comes from or why it exists but I have never played mafia games in a manner which attacks women.
    Yea phighter was out of line with that accusation even if it was a joke but that's something to settle later.

    I'm hopping in the shower and will post a reads list after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#214)
    Daisy was the person who asked me to play. It wasnt even percy. I cant imagine daisy asking me to play if she thinks I am a sexist pig. But this gets into things that shouldnt be in the game. suffice it to say, its unfortunate 3 of my pushes so far are on rusty, daisy and pixi.
    But has zero to do with gender.
    I understand how frustrating this is but please dont waste your post defending yourself on baseless accusations.

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    Limestone feels confident theyve been towny so far. I dont really know how to feel about it. My gut wants to say town.

    Macdougall was very quick to belt out some 0 level reads with little explanation. Could be scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#211)
    This is pretty unrelated to the game but perhaps it should be said.

    I do not target women in mafia games. I dont hate women. I have no idea why im having to clarify this but just in case anyone thinks I am a misogynist or that I hate women I certainly dont. I could provide you with more information on this in a DM in a out of game situation but I am quite disturbed at the notion that I unfairly target women in mafia games. I have no idea where this sentiment comes from or why it exists but I have never played mafia games in a manner which attacks women.
    Phighter's accusation was out of line, and had nothing to do with aspects of the game.

    I don't believe for a second that you're a sexist just because your pushes are all on women. It's the game of mafia, but to say something like that or to even accuse you of something like that is atrocious especially with the landscape of how things are going right now in the world.

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    Well in any case im getting married in a month. Im liberal and shes conservative. We both went to catholic school.


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    @moth

    Don't have to reply to this, but you only have 7 posts left on the limit till near EOD. Use them wisely to get your reads & thoughts out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#219)
    Well in any case im getting married in a month. Im liberal and shes conservative. We both went to catholic school.

    Yo, you look so $#@!ing happy. Huge congrats man.

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    2 Phighter awesome5000 (8), Limestone (10)
    2 Mantichora TheFraggernaut (21), Fontana (3)
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    1 GCEDW moth (43)
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    6 Not voting Colin (11), DaisyCloud (11), GCEDW (0), Macdougall (7), Mantichora (1), PixiGlow (11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#173)
    Collin implied im bullying pixi
    And I noticed its also been implied im scumreading pixi.

    I dont think I said I scumread pixi. I said I won the argument because she got caught in a logical fallacy. But technically I argued logical fallacies tend to come more from town
    How many times? One L.

    Also, I want to make it very clear. I never implied that you were bullying Glow and I do not think that you were.
    I also don't think your aggression is a bad thing. I was speaking to Glow as a friend.

    If it came across that I was saying you are a bully, it was in no way intended and I am sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin (#223)
    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#173)
    Collin implied im bullying pixi
    And I noticed its also been implied im scumreading pixi.

    I dont think I said I scumread pixi. I said I won the argument because she got caught in a logical fallacy. But technically I argued logical fallacies tend to come more from town
    How many times? One L.

    Also, I want to make it very clear. I never implied that you were bullying Glow and I do not think that you were.
    I also don't think your aggression is a bad thing. I was speaking to Glow as a friend.

    If it came across that I was saying you are a bully, it was in no way intended and I am sorry.
    Eh, not exactly what I meant. I know you appreciate me colin. you whippersnapper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#202)
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin (#146)
    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso (#46)
    Quote Originally Posted by rusty (#45)
    Alright, let me just throw something up in the air to get something started.

    Mantichora's enterance feels like someone randed scum and was not enthused
    Frag's vote could be an early distancing attempt.

    How on earth did you gather that from this? And why would you assume a vote would be an early distancing attempt, that is a super strange thing to occur to you out of the gate

    Also hello again familiar faces
    @rusty, it's clearly an early joke.
    Is it one of those, "it's funny because it's true!" jokes?
    @Colin

    What was the point of this post? Are you pointing out how awkward it is that virt used the "I was just kidding" defense?
    I was just thinking it would be amusing if those three were wolfing together and we can come back to that in postgame.

    I felt the "just kidding" thing was a little overdone, but that's more a now thought than a then thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#205)
    Im not sure. Colin could be buddying pixi in a condescending manner. to me the tone of his consolation reads like domt worry pixi, moth is just aggressive, its okay, everything will be juuuuust fine
    That's a fair assessment and it's good that you're showing scepticism. Glow is a frequent MiniMafia player and I want her to have a good forum experience, regardless of her, your or anyone else's alignment.

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    2 Phighter awesome5000 (8), Limestone (10)
    2 Mantichora TheFraggernaut (21), Fontana (3)
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    1 GCEDW moth (44)
    1 moth Wisdom (13)
    1 Virtuoso rusty (7)
    6 Not voting Colin (14), DaisyCloud (11), GCEDW (0), Macdougall (7), Mantichora (1), PixiGlow (11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesome5000 (#64)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#62)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#60)
    Quote Originally Posted by awesome5000 (#51)
    What happened to your Tunnel King undertitle?
    Gamvled a little too hard

    Ended up getting GH and Lissa to play MM though so not too bad
    Not a very good look that your response is to point at this rather than play any kind of defense I think
    you expect me to actually put up a defense at an rvs vote?
    Quote Originally Posted by awesome5000 (#69)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#68)
    Quote Originally Posted by awesome5000 (#64)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#62)
    Not a very good look that your response is to point at this rather than play any kind of defense I think
    you expect me to actually put up a defense at an rvs vote?
    It is very much not random tho
    i don't think being the first one to post in a thread is a valid reason to vote someone

    if anything *your* vote seems opportunistic

    ##Vote Phighter
    The only 2 posts from awesome that elicited anything from me. Seems ~fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontana (#118)
    Sorry I'm late. It's morning here so I'll be here as much as I can.

    Even if I really Can't say I'm a noib anymore, I am, so ypu'll have to accept The fact that I'm going to ask a lit of questions. Especially all The acronyms you are using. On The other hand I learn really fast so that shouldt be a problem.
    If it is, just lynch me. Just kidding, please dont.

    Don't know anyone of you, only played one game with @Phighter.

    So far I Cant really read anythinf else than that Pixie and Moth are having some kind of quarrel.

    There is no eeason really but that makes me think that They ate both town. Why hit this hard if you are Wolf this early in The game? Unless you want some kind of smokescreen.

    Everyone elses posts can read both ways imo (Yeah, I do know a couple of them).

    Imma read'em again and see what i can find.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fontana (#172)
    Trying to get anyting out of your posts. I'm leaning towards both moth and pixie is town. But I have a question,is it your personal style not to random-vote in the beginning @Pixie or is there a point not doing it?

    I want to hear more from some people so I'm gonna vote, and see what happens.

    In my book everything that steals focus from finding scum is scummy to me, and hiding under the radar is aswell so right now I'm leaning towards the ones not saying anything really. Mantichora have one post right? Am I missing someone?

    Going to do some reading later.

    Hope I'm doing the voting right. ##Vote Mantichora
    ~Fine intro. Making a v/v read out of the gate is 2 more reads than most people. Could be argued that hes flexing TMI, if you want to shade him wolfy

    Deciding to vote on me a lil weird, cause I only had 1 post and impossible to say when I'd be back. A waste.

    Stands out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#154)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#123)
    So, caught up.

    I was starting to expect Percy to come but he's not even in the player list so oh well He's one of the people here I feel confident in reading. Phighter's another, given enough days.

    It's going to be hard for me because y'all from DM are way less aggressive and active right now. Making me want to put Macdougall in my scum box mainly for popping in, doing nothing and disappearing.
    I can't just hang around 24/7 wtf
    Response doesn't exactly answer the accusation. In any case, Doug did make a couple reads, although their seriousness is debatable.

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    Yeah, I feel like Phighter might be having a bad day and it spilled into the thread? That's the impression that it left me with.

    NAI for me either way.

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    Limestone has made posts, and so.e of those posts have reads. Will keep an eye on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#230)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fontana (#118)
    Sorry I'm late. It's morning here so I'll be here as much as I can.

    Even if I really Can't say I'm a noib anymore, I am, so ypu'll have to accept The fact that I'm going to ask a lit of questions. Especially all The acronyms you are using. On The other hand I learn really fast so that shouldt be a problem.
    If it is, just lynch me. Just kidding, please dont.

    Don't know anyone of you, only played one game with @Phighter.

    So far I Cant really read anythinf else than that Pixie and Moth are having some kind of quarrel.

    There is no eeason really but that makes me think that They ate both town. Why hit this hard if you are Wolf this early in The game? Unless you want some kind of smokescreen.

    Everyone elses posts can read both ways imo (Yeah, I do know a couple of them).

    Imma read'em again and see what i can find.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fontana (#172)
    Trying to get anyting out of your posts. I'm leaning towards both moth and pixie is town. But I have a question,is it your personal style not to random-vote in the beginning @Pixie or is there a point not doing it?

    I want to hear more from some people so I'm gonna vote, and see what happens.

    In my book everything that steals focus from finding scum is scummy to me, and hiding under the radar is aswell so right now I'm leaning towards the ones not saying anything really. Mantichora have one post right? Am I missing someone?

    Going to do some reading later.

    Hope I'm doing the voting right. ##Vote Mantichora
    ~Fine intro. Making a v/v read out of the gate is 2 more reads than most people. Could be argued that hes flexing TMI, if you want to shade him wolfy

    Deciding to vote on me a lil weird, cause I only had 1 post and impossible to say when I'd be back. A waste.

    Stands out
    Even a vote that mirrors my vote from a signup lol. Not sure how you read that weird from a town mindset cause it's something you've done multiple times in mashes ect that we've played in. Seems weird that your'e focusing on it now, something that was merely for the memes.

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    @Mantichora Nvm you're talking about Limestone's vote. I thought you were talking about my vote from my intro post. Limestone's came out of no where, seems to want to try to sheep a vote I placed on you that was just memes from the signup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#132)
    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#80)
    pixi pre writes their introductory posts im pretty sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#122)
    so sorry I messed up the quotes. I'll restate how it's supposed to be so you guys can see the posts I refer to. I tried to do the [postnum] thing so it would just show the post number.

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso


    this is pixie's first post. is it preplanned in her tone, context, whatever..??

    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#41)
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso
    I feel like your going to be such an impressive wolf player if you can match this tone as a wolf glow.


    I read this as duke saying about the "tone" of your intro/first post.. not that bit about you not trusting peeps who auto vote in beginning of games

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#48)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#41)
    I feel like your going to be such an impressive wolf player if you can match this tone as a wolf glow.
    I already did when I was wolf with Jaleb and Jockmcplop. Wait you were in that game! LOL I'm town this game again tho.
    read this as you saying you try to have a "good tone" in your beginning posts and that you did the "good tone" thing in another game, one that duke played with you.

    [spoiler]
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#90)
    Quote Originally Posted by rusty (#78)


    Yeah more or less. Nothing exciting seems to have happened while I was gone. Phighter's reaction testing on awesome5000 feels lukewarm, it isn't really yielding results. I suppose I can give Phighter a limp village read, although he had me pocketed last game I played with him and I know he's a competent wolf so I really wouldn't say its worth anything

    How to piss away all the town cred you earned for $500, Alex

    How much towncred did you have him down for already

    So can you cite examples of when someone sounded less like a person and more like a player?

    I didn't say they sound like a person, but that their tone is likely just how they speak as a person, and doesn't have anything to do with whatever alignment they play as (hence it isn't indicative of them as a player one way or another was my thinking but yeah I didn't write that very concisely)


    Yes, rusty is correct, my post is NAI, and as stated in my response to Duk3star, has been done as the mafia alignment, in a previous game.

    However, it's interesting to see how people react/respond to it, and sometimes I can even get a hint of a read on people based on it, which is nice.


    read this as you getting overly defensive when moth questions about you preplanning your posts.


    I think pixie is implying that Duke was referring to her not trusting auto votes thing and regardless of her alignment she makes sure to state she doesn't like beginning auto votes? but rereading what duke said it doesn't read like that.

    it didn't help that rusty and fraggernaut kept going on about pixie's style/tone/natural flow or whatever either. ..

    also if that is what pixie was referring to then why didn't she say do to begin with? a quick, 'wait I meant me not liking beginning auto votes, there moth, I do/feel that way regardless of my alignment'

    she didn't tho. she got all defensive.. then got snarky saying moth doesn't know how to read. like
    wth
    pixie? calm down

    idk why this whole thing escalated. seemed reasonable enough to me.
    @DaisyCloud can you explain to me what exactly makes the first quote a question? Looks like a statement to me.
    Yes, I did get offended because it seemed like it was an insult, mostly because of the fact that it was not formed as a question.

    And yes, I do not like when people who RVS or random auto-vote at the beginning of a game. By the time I completed my post, roughly 30 minutes after the game started at 9PM EST (8PM Central) 4 people had already RVS voted. Hence the face.

    The reason this has escalated, is because there are several people making inferences about what I said, rather than reading what I said, or re-reading it.

    I didn't say anything even remotely like moth not knowing how to read.
    I said he was already skimming posts when there were less than 100 posts, yeah it was probably snarky cuz I thought him acting like he knew me when he's played 1 game and I was already dead when he joined - by his own admission, and making a statement like that about me or the way I play was frankly insulting.

    I asked like 10 people to play this game, and it is quickly not becoming a fun thing for me, so I'm not going to continue discussing this topic and just put my intro post is NAI. I do make an intro post every game because of the fact that I do not like RVS, and because I don't always know this many people in a game unless it's a Daily Mafia specific game.
    This is not a strategy. It was not prewritten. It took me 30 minutes to write after the game started.

    I'm going to go bed.
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#132)
    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#80)
    pixi pre writes their introductory posts im pretty sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#122)
    so sorry I messed up the quotes. I'll restate how it's supposed to be so you guys can see the posts I refer to. I tried to do the [postnum] thing so it would just show the post number.

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso


    this is pixie's first post. is it preplanned in her tone, context, whatever..??

    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#41)
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso
    I feel like your going to be such an impressive wolf player if you can match this tone as a wolf glow.


    I read this as duke saying about the "tone" of your intro/first post.. not that bit about you not trusting peeps who auto vote in beginning of games

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#48)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#41)
    I feel like your going to be such an impressive wolf player if you can match this tone as a wolf glow.
    I already did when I was wolf with Jaleb and Jockmcplop. Wait you were in that game! LOL I'm town this game again tho.
    read this as you saying you try to have a "good tone" in your beginning posts and that you did the "good tone" thing in another game, one that duke played with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#90)
    Quote Originally Posted by rusty (#78)


    Yeah more or less. Nothing exciting seems to have happened while I was gone. Phighter's reaction testing on awesome5000 feels lukewarm, it isn't really yielding results. I suppose I can give Phighter a limp village read, although he had me pocketed last game I played with him and I know he's a competent wolf so I really wouldn't say its worth anything

    How to piss away all the town cred you earned for $500, Alex

    How much towncred did you have him down for already

    So can you cite examples of when someone sounded less like a person and more like a player?

    I didn't say they sound like a person, but that their tone is likely just how they speak as a person, and doesn't have anything to do with whatever alignment they play as (hence it isn't indicative of them as a player one way or another was my thinking but yeah I didn't write that very concisely)


    Yes, rusty is correct, my post is NAI, and as stated in my response to Duk3star, has been done as the mafia alignment, in a previous game.

    However, it's interesting to see how people react/respond to it, and sometimes I can even get a hint of a read on people based on it, which is nice.


    read this as you getting overly defensive when moth questions about you preplanning your posts.


    I think pixie is implying that Duke was referring to her not trusting auto votes thing and regardless of her alignment she makes sure to state she doesn't like beginning auto votes? but rereading what duke said it doesn't read like that.

    it didn't help that rusty and fraggernaut kept going on about pixie's style/tone/natural flow or whatever either. ..

    also if that is what pixie was referring to then why didn't she say do to begin with? a quick, 'wait I meant me not liking beginning auto votes, there moth, I do/feel that way regardless of my alignment'

    she didn't tho. she got all defensive.. then got snarky saying moth doesn't know how to read. like
    wth
    pixie? calm down

    idk why this whole thing escalated. seemed reasonable enough to me.


    @DaisyCloud can you explain to me what exactly makes the first quote a question? Looks like a statement to me.
    Yes, I did get offended because it seemed like it was an insult, mostly because of the fact that it was not formed as a question.

    And yes, I do not like when people who RVS or random auto-vote at the beginning of a game. By the time I completed my post, roughly 30 minutes after the game started at 9PM EST (8PM Central) 4 people had already RVS voted. Hence the face.

    The reason this has escalated, is because there are several people making inferences about what I said, rather than reading what I said, or re-reading it.

    I didn't say anything even remotely like moth not knowing how to read.
    I said he was already skimming posts when there were less than 100 posts, yeah it was probably snarky cuz I thought him acting like he knew me when he's played 1 game and I was already dead when he joined - by his own admission, and making a statement like that about me or the way I play was frankly insulting.

    I asked like 10 people to play this game, and it is quickly not becoming a fun thing for me, so I'm not going to continue discussing this topic and just put my intro post is NAI. I do make an intro post every game because of the fact that I do not like RVS, and because I don't always know this many people in a game unless it's a Daily Mafia specific game.
    This is not a strategy. It was not prewritten. It took me 30 minutes to write after the game started.

    I'm going to go bed.


    Not trying to beat a dead horse, however you did @ me. I don't want tiu thinking I am ignoring you. I think moth made an observation. Then rusty and fraggernaut defended you/defended their read on you .. idk it was something like that. You defended yourself as well. It did seem like the whole thing dragged out longer then it should have. It also seemed like you were/still are overly defensive about the whole thing.

    I think someone pointed out tou get sensative/defensive when it seems like you are having to defend your rep/honor/character or something like that. don't remember who mentioned that exactly. if you need the player and exact quote I can do that later. I too get overly defensive if I think someone is attacking my rep/cred/code/honor/char etc.

    any who, if that is the case I see why you got so aggressive and then got apathetic/defeated. and I do think regardless of what you say that you were the aggressor/salty by making a pot shot about other game you played with moth. it was that pot shot that made me actually go from simply reading the whole interactions between you, rusty, moth, fraggernaut to post my thoughts/opinions and questions on it. I think that moth was sticking pretty much to the game side of things, perhaps his comment can be interpreted as a bit meta, but wasn't personal "attack" on pixie as a person.

    anyway, I too think this should be tabled. I think we all garnered what could possibly be taken from this whole thing.

    off topic comments: spoilered

    pixie, aww hope sleep is all you need to gain some new perspective of the game. this is supposed to be fun. this is hype!! idk you, but hope we play future games together regardless of our alignments this game. let's just have fun hugs ♡♡


    I spoiled this part above ^ because it's off topic/AtE too and pixie open that after game. I don't want it to influence your reads on me. and don't want it to influence others reads on me or you either.


    this last part.. I don't want to make a separate post. it has to do with moth and someone saying he is a women hater.. uh no he isn't. and yes I did ask him to play this with me. he is fun to play mafia games with. lol, we rarely get each other's reads right but still it's fun. also congrats moth on getting engaged and soon to be married. you two look so cute and happy together.♡♡

    I hope whoever said that was making a rude type of jk or something. it was inappropriate and just no. big no no.

    guys, mafia games get heated sometimes let's all try to focus on the game aspect of scum hunting and not try to make personal attacks and not scum read someone based on what we think is their personality/character etc.

    final

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#108)
    reading the posts between moth, fraggernaut, and pixie. I don't think moth is being reachy.

    it seems like fraggernaut is switching up a bit on why/how he town reads pixie from her opening post. then him saying he should have clarified/been more clear. then him saying he's gonna bounce when moth was pointing out what pixie herself was explaining her post.

    also pixie does seem a bit too defensive. fraggernaut too. like it seemed like reasonable things that morh pointed out and idk, seems like their reactions dragged it out a bit so I wonder why if it's sooo innocuous why they responded like that.

    I'm currently curious to see how/if she answers moth's questions.

    anyway, my questions:

    1. since pixie plans to make reactionary posts to get reactions and they are "nai" then by getting reads does it not make her posts "alignment indicative"? also we can pick and choose which of our posts are nai or not?

    A. if pixie does this sort of thing regardless of her alignment then why is fraggernaut acting like she doesn't do that, preplanned her posts.. maybe not the context but still preplans.. and why is he town reading her and saying it's natural and not mafia reading her or simply thinking it's nai? cause she says she does do it as mafia. also if she is to lazy to preplan posts then why say she preplans posts?



    what is my take away from this? pixie and fraggernaut and moth became pretty much players of interest. slight scum lean on pixie.
    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#122)
    so sorry I messed up the quotes. I'll restate how it's supposed to be so you guys can see the posts I refer to. I tried to do the [postnum] thing so it would just show the post number.

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso


    this is pixie's first post. is it preplanned in her tone, context, whatever..??

    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#41)
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso
    I feel like your going to be such an impressive wolf player if you can match this tone as a wolf glow.


    I read this as duke saying about the "tone" of your intro/first post.. not that bit about you not trusting peeps who auto vote in beginning of games

    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#48)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#41)
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#32)
    Hi Everyone! This is my 2nd attempt at a light game. {We won't discuss what happened last game unless you like salt mines.} I'm from the Daily Mafia and Mini-Mafia communities, so my experience is mainly video mafia, but I have played a few forum games. I've been so hyped looking forward to this game- I even changed my avatar to go with the mushroom theme!!
    So glad to see so many friends in here! @Colin @Duk3star @Limestone @Macdougall @Mantichora @Phighter @TheFraggernaut @Wisdom and looking forward to meeting those of you I don't know also!

    And now that the game's finally here, I feel like I don't know what else to say, so I'll look forward to reading everyone else's intros.

    Also, I personally never trust people who auto-vote in the beginning of a game - especially someone who hasn't posted yet, so I'm watching you @Virtuoso
    I feel like your going to be such an impressive wolf player if you can match this tone as a wolf glow.
    I already did when I was wolf with Jaleb and Jockmcplop. Wait you were in that game! LOL I'm town this game again tho.
    read this as you saying you try to have a "good tone" in your beginning posts and that you did the "good tone" thing in another game, one that duke played with you.

    [spoiler]
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#90)
    Quote Originally Posted by rusty (#78)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#70)
    Being in this game at the moment.

    Yeah more or less. Nothing exciting seems to have happened while I was gone. Phighter's reaction testing on awesome5000 feels lukewarm, it isn't really yielding results. I suppose I can give Phighter a limp village read, although he had me pocketed last game I played with him and I know he's a competent wolf so I really wouldn't say its worth anything

    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#72)
    How to piss away all the town cred you earned for $500, Alex
    How much towncred did you have him down for already

    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#74)
    So can you cite examples of when someone sounded less like a person and more like a player?
    I didn't say they sound like a person, but that their tone is likely just how they speak as a person, and doesn't have anything to do with whatever alignment they play as (hence it isn't indicative of them as a player one way or another was my thinking but yeah I didn't write that very concisely)


    Yes, rusty is correct, my post is NAI, and as stated in my response to Duk3star, has been done as the mafia alignment, in a previous game.

    However, it's interesting to see how people react/respond to it, and sometimes I can even get a hint of a read on people based on it, which is nice.


    read this as you getting overly defensive when moth questions about you preplanning your posts.


    I think pixie is implying that Duke was referring to her not trusting auto votes thing and regardless of her alignment she makes sure to state she doesn't like beginning auto votes? but rereading what duke said it doesn't read like that.

    it didn't help that rusty and fraggernaut kept going on about pixie's style/tone/natural flow or whatever either. ..

    also if that is what pixie was referring to then why didn't she say do to begin with? a quick, 'wait I meant me not liking beginning auto votes, there moth, I do/feel that way regardless of my alignment'

    she didn't tho. she got all defensive.. then got snarky saying moth doesn't know how to read. like
    wth
    pixie? calm down

    idk why this whole thing escalated. seemed reasonable enough to me.
    Lots of words for what's basically a sideways look into the situation. Pretty interesting to read, not sure about alignment. The sheer volume could be good early game.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCloud (#126)
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#117)
    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#113)
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#111)
    I didn't say that I preplan anything. See? everyone read what moth wrote acting like he knows me and now it's commonly thought that I said it.
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#90)
    Do you wanna go ahead and walk me through these 2 posts again?

    And tell me how its possible to sometimes get a hint of a read based on IT when you also claim you dont use this strategy regularly?
    Quote Originally Posted by PixiGlow (#117)
    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#113)

    The hint of a read is based on the reaction/response from other people.
    Some people just read it as it is: NAI, which makes them null.
    Duk3star not remembering that I was mafia indeed the last time we played a game together, is slightly scummy. Not super scummy because maybe he didn't remember because he was mislynched very early.
    TheFraggernaut reaction could be a possible pocket attempt, granted, but not guaranteed. Last game the first person to try to put a town read on my NAI post was actually a JOAT.
    You and DaisyCloud for instance, both forcing an agenda onto other people is either paranoid town or mafia just doing mafia things, like calling a lot of attention to something NAI and trying to say it's a strategy.

    rusty on the other hand is reading the post as NAI and actually clued into the weird interactions other people are having as a result of it, which to me makes me think he's the most likely townie who's responded so far.
    wait, what agenda? i wasn't even a art of this whole discussion that was going on between you, tisty, duke, moth and fraggernaut. now I'm having an agenda with moth? moth has a null read on you.

    so moth's questions to rusty and fraggernaut and you makes him mafia or paranoid town? also so you are saying you preplan your "tone"... it's not the voting thing? so, which is it now?

    iirc no one has voted you so idk what "agenda" is going on.
    A comedy of poor communication iyam. Not sure what it says about alignments, but glow cutting out in the above (mangled) quote is interesting.

    I somewhat like Daisy here, tho not particularly strongly or for particularly good reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#235)
    @Mantichora Nvm you're talking about Limestone's vote. I thought you were talking about my vote from my intro post. Limestone's came out of no where, seems to want to try to sheep a vote I placed on you that was just memes from the signup.
    If I'm quoting a post, I'm likely referencing it.

    I wasnt talking about you or lime in the post tire referring to here lol

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    ugh, I messed up that post and ended up double quoting sorry guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#239)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#235)
    @Mantichora Nvm you're talking about Limestone's vote. I thought you were talking about my vote from my intro post. Limestone's came out of no where, seems to want to try to sheep a vote I placed on you that was just memes from the signup.
    If I'm quoting a post, I'm likely referencing it.

    I wasnt talking about you or lime in the post tire referring to here lol
    Got you im all kinds of disoriented right now to be honest. I gotta re-read stuff cause I'm getting people mixed up.

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    ##Vote duk3star

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#242)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#239)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#235)
    @Mantichora Nvm you're talking about Limestone's vote. I thought you were talking about my vote from my intro post. Limestone's came out of no where, seems to want to try to sheep a vote I placed on you that was just memes from the signup.
    If I'm quoting a post, I'm likely referencing it.

    I wasnt talking about you or lime in the post tire referring to here lol
    Got you im all kinds of disoriented right now to be honest. I gotta re-read stuff cause I'm getting people mixed up.
    I was doing that a bit last nite with you and rusty. I didn't mean to mix things up. it doesn't change me reads on you two tho. u both are still null.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#242)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#239)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFraggernaut (#235)
    @Mantichora Nvm you're talking about Limestone's vote. I thought you were talking about my vote from my intro post. Limestone's came out of no where, seems to want to try to sheep a vote I placed on you that was just memes from the signup.
    If I'm quoting a post, I'm likely referencing it.

    I wasnt talking about you or lime in the post tire referring to here lol
    Got you im all kinds of disoriented right now to be honest. I gotta re-read stuff cause I'm getting people mixed up.

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    awesome5000 N
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    Mantichora N
    moth TL
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    Frags focus in his manti vote is interesting g

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    The pressure vote worked ☕

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#248)
    The pressure vote worked ☕
    Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duk3star (#246)
    awesome5000 N
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    Limestone TL
    Macdougall N
    Mantichora N
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    rusty TL
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    this is moar then I remember you doing then the last game we played together. I like lists. u r null.

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