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    Pronouns or Gender Symbols in the Playerlist

    Hi!

    As someone who posts a lot and generates a lot of content, I would love when clicking the box with the check mark in it, the player's gender symbol could be next to the name to avoid misgendering players.

    I know some people will say "well just look", but it would help with genuine mistakes.
    Last edited by Makaze; October 12th, 2020 at 02:09 PM.
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    This would be cool.

    What happens if there's no gender/pronouns set? Default they/them? Nothing?

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    if it's easy to program sure, but honestly if people don't look at the player's mini info, they're not gonna look at what you're proposing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquilla (#4)
    if it's easy to program sure, but honestly if people don't look at the player's mini info, they're not gonna look at what you're proposing.
    I played on this site for four years now. I'm not sure how many of us there are, but there's definitely been a cultural shift on the web from the days of "everyone is a guy" to not that and now to a new culture where people stick up for their gender identity and it's a huge part of who people are online. I will catch $%#! and be honest and be the one who strolls out and admits that sometimes I get stuck in my ways and make posts without paying attention to these symbols. It is obviously not something I've ever had to be too concerned about in my personal life, but for the people who do care, it means the world to them to get it right. And this would make it easier to do that. I think if it's an easy thing to program, it can do no harm and only help foster the community that MU has been building over the past few years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $%#!ing with you.


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    Where are you talking about?
    I hold you in the highest regard, my friends.


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    I think he means the multi-ISO dropdown?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#122)
    bbtbh wolf because bbt actually made reads
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    Next to the eye, when you click vote, you get a list of all the player's names to select one

    Sticking it there
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $%#!ing with you.


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    oh nvm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#122)
    bbtbh wolf because bbt actually made reads
    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#24)
    bbt would never be less than 100% serious!!

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    It is easy to program but the answer is: no. Even a single person using gender to decide who to vote is too much.

    View the user's profile. If you can't be assed to do that then use gender neutral pronouns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    It is easy to program but the answer is: no. Even a single person using gender to decide who to vote is too much.

    View the user's profile. If you can't be assed to do that then use gender neutral pronouns.
    @Makazee

    I'm not saying anyone would vote anyone based on gender??

    Who the $%#! said I said that??

    I'm saying it just as an easy place to refer to things when you're in the middle of a giant wall post and don't know off the top of your head??
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $%#!ing with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#11)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    It is easy to program but the answer is: no. Even a single person using gender to decide who to vote is too much.

    View the user's profile. If you can't be assed to do that then use gender neutral pronouns.
    @Makazee

    I'm not saying anyone would vote anyone based on gender??

    Who the $%#! said I said that??

    I'm saying it just as an easy place to refer to things when you're in the middle of a giant wall post and don't know off the top of your head??
    I am saying they would. You're better off using neutral pronouns in cases where you can't properly check.

    Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#11)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    It is easy to program but the answer is: no. Even a single person using gender to decide who to vote is too much.

    View the user's profile. If you can't be assed to do that then use gender neutral pronouns.
    @Makazee

    I'm not saying anyone would vote anyone based on gender??

    Who the $%#! said I said that??

    I'm saying it just as an easy place to refer to things when you're in the middle of a giant wall post and don't know off the top of your head??
    I am saying they would. You're better off using neutral pronouns in cases where you can't properly check.

    Sorry.
    So it's bad if I don't check, but giving me an option to help me check... will also be bad?

    huh?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $%#!ing with you.


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    i get why this change would be a problem, but could it be added to the sidebar of people's profile pages?

    like instead of having to go to the about me tab (and highlight the text because its completely broken on dark mode but that's a separate issue) it's just on the left next to their postcount and avatar
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    if the text is broken in dark mode it's probably because you need to go into your general settings, change the theme to "use forum default", and then select your theme again using the switcher below the forum list

    and you have to do this every time you save a setting, unfortunately

    @Chemist1422
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#122)
    bbtbh wolf because bbt actually made reads
    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#24)
    bbt would never be less than 100% serious!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#15)
    if the text is broken in dark mode it's probably because you need to go into your general settings, change the theme to "use forum default", and then select your theme again using the switcher below the forum list

    and you have to do this every time you save a setting, unfortunately

    @Chemist1422
    but if i use that switcher it doesn't save when i log out

    at least i think it doesn't

    anyway this is a topic for a different thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#11)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#10)
    It is easy to program but the answer is: no. Even a single person using gender to decide who to vote is too much.

    View the user's profile. If you can't be assed to do that then use gender neutral pronouns.
    @Makazee

    I'm not saying anyone would vote anyone based on gender??

    Who the $%#! said I said that??

    I'm saying it just as an easy place to refer to things when you're in the middle of a giant wall post and don't know off the top of your head??
    I am saying they would. You're better off using neutral pronouns in cases where you can't properly check.

    Sorry.
    So it's bad if I don't check, but giving me an option to help me check... will also be bad?

    huh?
    Giving you an option to check that is tied to the vote system in any way will be bad.
    I hold you in the highest regard, my friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#14)
    i get why this change would be a problem, but could it be added to the sidebar of people's profile pages?

    like instead of having to go to the about me tab (and highlight the text because its completely broken on dark mode but that's a separate issue) it's just on the left next to their postcount and avatar
    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#11)
    @Makazee

    I'm not saying anyone would vote anyone based on gender??

    Who the $%#! said I said that??

    I'm saying it just as an easy place to refer to things when you're in the middle of a giant wall post and don't know off the top of your head??
    I am saying they would. You're better off using neutral pronouns in cases where you can't properly check.

    Sorry.
    So it's bad if I don't check, but giving me an option to help me check... will also be bad?

    huh?
    Giving you an option to check that is tied to the vote system in any way will be bad.
    What about coding it in next to names that appear on the 'multi ISO' link? Would that be possible? Then you could still click 'multi ISO' to check a person's gender status while composing a gigantic Phighter-style wall post and it's not able to be abused by the masses who would vote only men or only women or only non-binary individuals.
    "All the world will be your enemy, Prince With A Thousand Enemies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah (#19)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    I am saying they would. You're better off using neutral pronouns in cases where you can't properly check.

    Sorry.
    So it's bad if I don't check, but giving me an option to help me check... will also be bad?

    huh?
    Giving you an option to check that is tied to the vote system in any way will be bad.
    What about coding it in next to names that appear on the 'multi ISO' link? Would that be possible? Then you could still click 'multi ISO' to check a person's gender status while composing a gigantic Phighter-style wall post and it's not able to be abused by the masses who would vote only men or only women or only non-binary individuals.
    Done.
    I hold you in the highest regard, my friends.


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    That looks pretty great, ty mak!
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    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah (#19)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#13)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#12)
    I am saying they would. You're better off using neutral pronouns in cases where you can't properly check.

    Sorry.
    So it's bad if I don't check, but giving me an option to help me check... will also be bad?

    huh?
    Giving you an option to check that is tied to the vote system in any way will be bad.
    What about coding it in next to names that appear on the 'multi ISO' link? Would that be possible? Then you could still click 'multi ISO' to check a person's gender status while composing a gigantic Phighter-style wall post and it's not able to be abused by the masses who would vote only men or only women or only non-binary individuals.
    Thank you for solving the problem here
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#233)
    So here's the deal, Champ.

    1. Phighter's $%#!ing with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#20)
    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah (#19)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Phighter (#13)
    So it's bad if I don't check, but giving me an option to help me check... will also be bad?

    huh?
    Giving you an option to check that is tied to the vote system in any way will be bad.
    What about coding it in next to names that appear on the 'multi ISO' link? Would that be possible? Then you could still click 'multi ISO' to check a person's gender status while composing a gigantic Phighter-style wall post and it's not able to be abused by the masses who would vote only men or only women or only non-binary individuals.
    Done.
    Neat. I like the solution.

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