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    Watcher & Self-targetable modifier

    Watcher is no longer able to self-target by default.

    Self-targetable can now be added to any role to allow it to target itself.
    Last edited by Makaze; July 19th, 2021 at 11:16 PM.
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    As the person who suggested this, I obviously think it's a great change; however, I think soah had a great point:

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#15)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#12)
    As for the non-self-targeting bit:

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#5)
    Also, regarding self-targeting - I would probably make "Self-Targeting" a modifier rather than "Non-self Targeting" - I could be wrong in the context of MU but from my experience most roles generally can't self-target elsewhere, and things like Watcher being able to do it here are already kinda weird in my opinion.
    I'd much rather see "Self-Targeting" as a modifier than "Non-Self Targeting" and then just make it clear that unless specified otherwise roles cannot self-target.
    If you go this route I believe you'd want to call it Self-Targetable rather than Self-Targeting so that it cannot be misunderstood.
    "Self-targeting" may imply that it must target itself, while "Self-Targetable" does not carry that implication. I'd probably swap to this wording instead just to ensure clarity.

    Great modbot changes rolling out in general!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#2)
    As the person who suggested this, I obviously think it's a great change; however, I think soah had a great point:

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#15)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#12)
    As for the non-self-targeting bit:

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#5)
    Also, regarding self-targeting - I would probably make "Self-Targeting" a modifier rather than "Non-self Targeting" - I could be wrong in the context of MU but from my experience most roles generally can't self-target elsewhere, and things like Watcher being able to do it here are already kinda weird in my opinion.
    I'd much rather see "Self-Targeting" as a modifier than "Non-Self Targeting" and then just make it clear that unless specified otherwise roles cannot self-target.
    If you go this route I believe you'd want to call it Self-Targetable rather than Self-Targeting so that it cannot be misunderstood.
    "Self-targeting" may imply that it must target itself, while "Self-Targetable" does not carry that implication. I'd probably swap to this wording instead just to ensure clarity.

    Great modbot changes rolling out in general!
    Fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#1)
    Self-targetable can now be added to any role to allow it to target itself.
    can we add roles that must target themselves so i can make a setup with a self targeting dayvig

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    So can you tell me the rationale behind this post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#5)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#1)
    Self-targetable can now be added to any role to allow it to target itself.
    can we add roles that must target themselves so i can make a setup with a self targeting dayvig
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#6)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#5)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#1)
    Self-targetable can now be added to any role to allow it to target itself.
    can we add roles that must target themselves so i can make a setup with a self targeting dayvig
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#5)
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#1)
    Self-targetable can now be added to any role to allow it to target itself.
    can we add roles that must target themselves so i can make a setup with a self targeting dayvig
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