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    Looking outside of my wagon voters on D1, there should be a wolf elsewhere. Regardless of my alignment, I'm not sure all wolves just camp on a top wagon. That's crazy. We have Min/Marl/Appel who aren't on my wagon, so the best shot is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit (#1433)
    Wallape is positioning for my flip.
    Don't worry, Gambit. If you're town, we'll avenge you!

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    jesus you played with me in ice cream mafia, i have never high posted in a game in my life

    but whatevs

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    if gambit flips v i'm sheeping his reads then will proceed to know that i'm bad at mafia

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    Anyway, you're all nerds

    Good luck

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    i just hope im right

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    « Day 2 Elimination: Gambit was Vanilla Town »
    An Absolutely Normal Light Game Day 2 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    5 Gambit wallape (90), Appelsiini (56), Qii (68), Marluxion (81), Ephemera (91)
    3 wallape min (46), Gambit (78), Twice Shrunk (70)
    1 min Phraze (77)
    1 Not voting diiye (17)


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    End day at majority is enabled. With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to reach majority.

    Gambit was eliminated. They were: Vanilla Town.
    Role PM for An Absolutely Normal Light Game

    You are Vanilla Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.


    Day 2 has ended.

    Day 2 ended at 1:00 PM EDT on Sunday, August 1st, 2021.

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    « Night 2 Start »
    An Absolutely Normal Light Game Night 2 Start

    Night 2 has begun.

    Please submit your night actions below the thread.

    Night 2 ends at 1:00 PM EDT on Monday, August 2nd, 2021. There are 1627923660000 remaining.

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    « Night 2 Results: Marluxion was Vanilla Town »
    An Absolutely Normal Light Game Night 2 Results

    Marluxion has died. They were: Vanilla Town.
    Role PM for An Absolutely Normal Light Game

    You are Vanilla Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.


    Night 2 has ended.

    Night 2 ended at 1:00 PM EDT on Monday, August 2nd, 2021.

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    « Day 3 Start »
    An Absolutely Normal Light Game Day 3 Start

    Day 3 has begun.

    Living Players

    @Appelsiini
    @diiye
    @Ephemera
    @min
    @Phraze
    @Qii
    @Twice Shrunk
    @wallape

    Day 3 ends at 1:00 PM EDT on Wednesday, August 4th, 2021. There are 1628096460000 remaining.

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    LMAO WOLVES

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    why???

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    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

    what the $%#! lmao

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    this is so good lmao

    i don't understand that move at all, but i'll $%#!ing take it

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    ##Vote min

    i honestly don't know where to go now and i'm probably gonna be wrong anyway

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    ##Vote Appelsiini

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    wait
    both outed PRs are alive????

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    Quote Originally Posted by lendunistus (#1)
    Votes will be locked when the town must eliminate a member of the mafia.
    Sleep is enabled.
    When there is a tie between the most voted players, the elimination will be randomised between the tied parties.
    Majority elimination is enabled starting from D2.
    Mafia factional kill is mandatory.
    Mafia win upon parity with the town.
    if there's literally anyone else who could have caused the no kill n1, say it now.

    a claim of any such role (JK, RB, etc.) after the first IRL day in this phase will be taken as a wolfclaim

    i will now go back to operating under the assumption that qii/diiye are locktowns and wolves killed marl because they actually believed his claim of self-resolving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qii (#1467)
    wait
    both outed PRs are alive????
    only one is confirmed, to be fair

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    lmao what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1459)
    An Absolutely Normal Light Game Night 2 Results

    Marluxion has died. They were: Vanilla Town.
    Role PM for An Absolutely Normal Light Game

    You are Vanilla Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.


    Night 2 has ended.

    Night 2 ended at 1:00 PM EDT on Monday, August 2nd, 2021.
    Well played. Gambits for Gambit.

    Meanwhile...
    ##Vote wallape

    Should have trusted Gambit, I guess.

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    there are a couple things that are absolutely certain after this flip:

    1) wolves believed marl when he said he was self-resolving PR
    1b) corollary of this is that someone who has more experience with marl probably doesn't fall for it lol

    2) wolves deliberately chose to kill marl out of (from their point of view) the three confirmed towns qii/marl/diiye

    this one likely means that marl was onto something yesterday

    also i think appel looks good from this kill because i don't think she kills marl when there was a solid chance he was bluffing
    i got the impression they've played together often

    may be wrong with this

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    i will be back sometime in 24 hours

    now, i will excuse myself to continue to laugh my $%#! off at this nightkill

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    why in the hell..

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    one last thought

    the only way for a non-town PR to have $%#!ed with the nightkill (in non-gamethrowing or gamethrow-adjacent ways) is if this is like
    arson instead of nightkill

    but that still makes no $%#!ing sense for this kill then because why $%#!ing ignite lmao

    so uh

    i don't think this is the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1472)
    there are a couple things that are absolutely certain after this flip:

    1) wolves believed marl when he said he was self-resolving PR
    1b) corollary of this is that someone who has more experience with marl probably doesn't fall for it lol

    2) wolves deliberately chose to kill marl out of (from their point of view) the three confirmed towns qii/marl/diiye

    this one likely means that marl was onto something yesterday

    also i think appel looks good from this kill because i don't think she kills marl when there was a solid chance he was bluffing
    i got the impression they've played together often

    may be wrong with this
    This makes me think it's likely an inexperienced wolfteam. They even failed NK1. So.... Wallape?

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    So, Marl was not PR.

    Good softclaim.

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    Stuff I did overnight.
    --------------------
    1. Appel town.
    2. Ephe town.
    3. Marl town.
    4. diiye town.
    5. Vulgard town.
    6. Gambit town.
    7. dota town.
    8. Qii town.
    9. Twice town.
    10. Kajot scum.

    POE: {Phraze, min, wallape}.

    P#648 - EOD1
    dota (t) - Qii (t), diiye (t), Phraze (?), Appel (t), Marl (t).
    Phraze (?) - Gambit (t), Twice (t), Kajot (w), Ephe (t), wall (?).
    Kajot (w) - dota (t), Vulgard (t)
    Vulgard (t) - min (?)

    1. dota wagon not scum-driven, so was not a counterwagon to save scum!Phraze.
    2. wall tied up Phraze and dota at the last minute, so if scumteam is Phraze/wall, that was serious bussing (as opposed to soft bussing, where you're not really trying to get your partner hanged).
    3. Kajot wagon was 100% town, so no one was bussing them.

    P#1457 - EOD2

    Gambit (t) - wall (?), Appel (t), Qii (t), Marl (t), Ephe (t).
    wall (?) - min (?), Gambit (t), Twice (t).
    min (?) - Phraze (?)
    Not voting - diiye (t)

    1. Gambit wagon primarily town-driven, not a counter-wagon to save scum!wallape.
    2. If scumteam is min/wall, then min was hardbussing since everything was chaotic around EOD, it was evident that the hang was going to be between Gambit and wall (regardless of how many CFDs I tried to pull), and it wasn't even clear who was dying until perhaps right before deadline.
    3. If scumteam is Phraze/min, then Phraze was soft bussing min since min wasn't really viable, which was clear the moment I tried to pull a CFD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phraze (#1476)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#1472)
    there are a couple things that are absolutely certain after this flip:

    1) wolves believed marl when he said he was self-resolving PR
    1b) corollary of this is that someone who has more experience with marl probably doesn't fall for it lol

    2) wolves deliberately chose to kill marl out of (from their point of view) the three confirmed towns qii/marl/diiye

    this one likely means that marl was onto something yesterday

    also i think appel looks good from this kill because i don't think she kills marl when there was a solid chance he was bluffing
    i got the impression they've played together often

    may be wrong with this
    This makes me think it's likely an inexperienced wolfteam. They even failed NK1. So.... Wallape?
    Im sorry but im not inexperienced wrt judging game state at all and ive played mafia (not forum mafia) for over an year

    And does it $%#!ing surprise anyone that I was on marl and only got a killing action being used on them and no protective from diiye?

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    I'm heavily leaning away from min/wallape, because min hardbussing wallape is 100% not the move.

    They're in POE, there's not much getting out, and bussing just screws them up even more.

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    ##Vote min for now.

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    Actually, if min/wallape aren't both scum, then Phraze has to be scum.

    ##Vote Phraze

    wallape hardbussing Phraze EOD1 was pretty ballsy, but it could just be standard hardbussing, I buy much more into the min/wall interaction EOD2.

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    my solve yesterday night was actually appel+mera

    Twice imo is locktown for constantly trying to get a cfd from me/gambit

    Phraze looks... kinda ok in that regard as well for suggesting min cfd? Min coming in and tr'ing gambit but rly not trying to convince people to vote me felt wolfy - but I think kajot vs min is kinda clearing for them so whatever

    PoE leaves appel and eph if I assume diiye/qii to be locktown

    On a complete side note qii had possibly the wolfiest iso out of anyone with their singular focus on gambit and im tinfoiling diiye+qii but thats just dumb so ill shut up

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    Oh, and I did re-ISO both Appel and Ephe last night, they're still town.

    diiye - pr
    qii - confirmed by pr

    I'm town too fmpov so yea POE is {wall, Phraze, min}

    Pretty confident wall/min not w/w, but still possible enough I'll be hanging both if Phraze flips somehow flips town.

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    An Absolutely Normal Light Game Day 3 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    1 Appelsiini Qii (5)
    1 wallape Phraze (2)
    1 Phraze Twice Shrunk (6)
    5 Not voting diiye (0), wallape (2), min (2), Appelsiini (0), Ephemera (7)

    View Vote History

    End day at majority is enabled. With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to reach majority.

    Day 3 ends at 1:00 PM EDT on Wednesday, August 4th, 2021. There are 1628096460000 remaining.

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    P#929 P#1110 and p#1111

    All of my points in these stand and (while I am being slightly hypocritical here) I also think appel trying to get a gambit vote off while also setting herself up for pushing me today is also wolfy

    As well as their thought process wrt "kajot tmi'ing vulgard v". Town going "vul extremely wolfy" -> *kajot defends vul* -> "kajot is tmi'ing vulgard v" makes no sense aat all. Your first thought would be smth along the lines of "partnered" or something like that.

    She's constantly been diminishing my reads by calling them omgus and wallape is a bad townie and whatever but she is just wolfing im p sure

    ##Vote Appelsiini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#1484)
    Oh, and I did re-ISO both Appel and Ephe last night, they're still town.

    diiye - pr
    qii - confirmed by pr

    I'm town too fmpov so yea POE is {wall, Phraze, min}

    Pretty confident wall/min not w/w, but still possible enough I'll be hanging both if Phraze flips somehow flips town.
    I... do not fit as a team with either of them. I only buss when I actually _need_ to buss. For example entire scum team is already caught and people are dragging associative across everyone and linking them. I hate bussing otherwise because it only reduces the amount of time one can actually play the game and u doing that to ur own teammate unnecessarily makes me sad

    I literally have 0 motivation to vote phraze and tie votes up when I couldve just let dota go over. Additionally if I were wolf w/ phraze that means both wolves would be bussing d1 which is a yikes if u ask me

    Admittedly this is self meta but I do not care.

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    Appel wagon is complete trash.

    Get off.

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    stop being stubborn and actually evaluate your reads please @Twice Shrunk. Everyone in this game is townie yes but that does not mean u can stubbornly stick to your reads from d1 until d5 and expect to win.

    I know u said u reread the iso but what exactly do u even find townie about appel??? Their surface level solving seems fine but on a deeper level they are not as townie as u think. Your "high standards" are not high enough and sticking to purely applying mu guides in a game is not going to actually win u the game

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    deep breath
    if you think kajot and i could've ever been w/w, be my guest
    i just suck at the game
    also, like i said, i couldn't pay 100% attention to EoD2

    i'm gonna kick everyone besides diiye/twice from my town and hope something happens now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#1488)
    Appel wagon is complete trash.

    Get off.
    If u think it is trash then towncase her. Give a rebuttal to the scumcase against her. Don't just say "they are town" and leave it at that please

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    How would me bussing wall make much sense in this point of the game xd

    Even if I was mafia I honestly wouldn't bus because I am insanely awkward while doing so but you obviously have to take that with a grain of #salt unless u want to look at my other games

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    I do see the case for wall/Phraze not w/w, but I do think there's a lot of WIFOM going into there, D1 bussing doesn't hurt scum as much as late game bussing (when town has more information and a more rigid POE is set) and isn't as sub-optimal.

    I believe that the min/wall not w/w interaction has a lot more "meat" to it.

    And anyways, my POE is correct, it doesn't even matter if I don interactions or not.

    That being said, I might have to sub out if this game goes on past the 8th, and I'd really like for that not to happen, so I'm trying to get a good hang order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qii (#1490)
    deep breath
    if you think kajot and i could've ever been w/w, be my guest
    i just suck at the game
    also, like i said, i couldn't pay 100% attention to EoD2

    i'm gonna kick everyone besides diiye/twice from my town and hope something happens now
    I dunno I haven't looked at ur iso other than ur eod

    Were there any clearing interactions for u w/ kajot?

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    idk i think so

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    unrelated but the 8th is my birthday so I'd probably be inactive if we got that far LOL hopefully we don't

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    What's the scumcase for Appel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#1484)
    Oh, and I did re-ISO both Appel and Ephe last night, they're still town.

    diiye - pr
    qii - confirmed by pr

    I'm town too fmpov so yea POE is {wall, Phraze, min}

    Pretty confident wall/min not w/w, but still possible enough I'll be hanging both if Phraze flips somehow flips town.
    I actually think Wall/Min could be W/W, though for independent reasons.

    While I think Min voting for Kajot over me, when my wagon was quite popular, was good.. It isn't as good now that Min was probably just catching up, and didn't notice anything. Min didn't want to be yeeted on D1, then didn't want to be bombed D2, then didn't like that village were considering CFD there.

    Wallape isn't a slot I'm sure on, but I somewhat trust Gambit. Though, Gambit could be wrong sometimes.


    I also dislike the pre-flip talk. Sounds like setting up a chain of mis-eliminations. And I don't think we can afford any misses that far. Still think your system is deep-wolfed, or you're wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#1493)
    I do see the case for wall/Phraze not w/w, but I do think there's a lot of WIFOM going into there, D1 bussing doesn't hurt scum as much as late game bussing (when town has more information and a more rigid POE is set) and isn't as sub-optimal.

    I believe that the min/wall not w/w interaction has a lot more "meat" to it.

    And anyways, my POE is correct, it doesn't even matter if I don interactions or not.

    That being said, I might have to sub out if this game goes on past the 8th, and I'd really like for that not to happen, so I'm trying to get a good hang order.
    If your PoE is wrong and has wolves in it, who are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#1497)
    What's the scumcase for Appel?
    Look at my posts today man

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    oh yeah I also think appel/phraze is a decent shout

    But im not going there yet because preflipping blah blah blah whatevs

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