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The Raven: A Light Game! Day 6 Votecount
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 3 evakyoo Rose Disco (12), Quick (32), Thunal33 (30) 3 Schweppes Vulgard (28), evakyoo (27), awesome5000 (14) 1 Not voting Schweppes (12)
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It was a tie. evakyoo was eliminated at random. They were: Mafia Goon.
Day 6 has ended.
Day 6 ended at 8:00 PM EDT on Friday, August 20th, 2021.
“Prophet!” said I, “thing of evil!—prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that Heaven that bends above us—by that God we both adore—
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels name Lenore—
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore.”
Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.”
How could I lie to this broken hearted man? This girl is gone. I saw her taken away by the spirits, bathed in tears and light. She could never return. I had to let him down easily. He grew more and more agitated. He got up and filled his cup with some sort of liquid (I can assume that it was not water, since he gave me water, and he wasn't giving me this), and he drank it down, albeit with difficulty. I hoped that he would drink water, but he still acted as if he were afraid of it. He was so engrossed by his grief and his drink that he did not see the black widow spider that was steadily crawling toward him. But I did. I swooped down and ate it up before it could bite him and fill him with its venom.
I looked at him again. He was obviously drunk. He fell asleep and snored the night long.
evakyoo, who died, was the black widow spider.
Last edited by Garden Gnome; August 21st, 2021 at 09:03 AM.
well $%#! me i guess. i got like 4 hour of sleep and got up and downed a coffee because i was certain i worked this morning but i don't actually go to work for 7 hours. guess i'll read the game
Here's where I'm at rn:
scumminessnot being around to change my vote to eva, but I get the impression it wouldn't have mattered.
Check this exchange.
"I am not mafia and you're lying"
"How about you vote Schweppes then"
"I think he's town and a misyeet"
"Awesome, is Schweppes giving up alignment indicative for him?"
She doesn't have a good reason to vote him. At all. This is 100% self-preservation.
And I feel like it's self-preservation on a wolf, because instead of just bussing here, she tries to defend him at first. She even tries to potentially make him look better by asking awesome if it's AI for him to give up. Only when it's likely she's going to flip does she start pushing on him.
If Schweppes is town, he's the perfect scapegoat for eva. We're already pushing the guy. Just help us push him, it's one more misyeet, one more step toward victory.
But she doesn't. She only starts pushing him when she's guaranteed to become the alternative yeet. Why not do it earlier if Schweppes is town?
The answer is this: she can't afford to push him if he's mafia. If he flips, we're going to look for association reads, and those would lead us back to eva again. Her best bet yesterday is to ensure neither she nor Schweppes flips. This is what happened with Ultra, in fact. He was a necessary misyeet to prevent the wolves from getting boxed in.
Eva built the Phraze/Quick world hoping for one of our yeets to happen, but then it... couldn't. She did try to push Quick yesterday, but then was forced to pivot to Schweppes.
I'm also making this argument because of eva's treatment of my slot yesterday. She tried to gaslight me by claiming I lied about her slot, and she spent half her posts yesterday doing emotional stuff, including yelling while pushing Schweppes. I interpret this as refuge in audacity combined with desperation. One last move to throw us off, to do something.
This might be a bold claim, but I also think that if eva's partner were someone deeper than Schweppes, yesterday would've gone differently.
I think Rose, Quick and Thunal are always town here, and I read awesome as a villager pocketed by eva.
If Schweppes isn't a wolf, my townread order goes: Thunal>Quick>Rose>awesome, from strongest to weakest. I think if we have a wolf that's relatively deep, it would have to be either Rose or awesome. Awesome for openly wolfsiding, and Rose for not doing as much in the latest days as the two players above her.
Rose's early callout on Touko's actions on day 1 could've been a manifestation of TMI, and her not dying after that is a little suspicious.. however, from what I can tell, Rose has been wolfsiding with her votes after that, excluding the latest days. And the latest days aren't when the ignites happened, so it's possible wolves left her alive simply because she was only correct about Touko. Really, the biggest reason she's not higher is the fact I could see her TMIng that push on Touko to achieve a solid-looking day 1 bus. That said, I've liked her posts overall, and even as I write this, I doubt she's anything but VT. Any reasons for her being mafia that I can come up with rely on her investment fading over time, and on her day 1 callout on Touko being almost too accurate. However, I understand how burnout works, and it's also possible she simply happened to have an accurate read. It's not like villagers can't have good reads.
Awesome's low because he's been wolfsiding. That's... basically it. The fact it's eva who he sided with, someone he apparently knows well, is a point in his favor, actually; it makes it more likely eva simply pocketed him. People who know each other can and will try to pocket each other in W/V scenarios, it's natural. That said, I don't want to discount the possibility of him simply wolfsiding based on audacity, and trying to help eva powerwolf a bit.
I think Quick is solid town, because he has good-looking associations with eva, and because he seems to be here to solve the game rather than just look like it. I wish I had more to say about him, but that's really all I can say. His posts have been generally good, I also took a gander at his ISO and walked away thinking he's been playing perfectly fine. Nothing that struck me as wolfy.
I think Thunal is absolutely town. Thunal convinced me to push on Schweppes and eva when it was possible I'd go after other targets instead. She has consistently been trying to get eva flipped, almost since she replaced in, and I'm not getting any pings of suspicion from her. Much like with Quick, I get the impression she's here to solve the game rather than just look like it. If she were a wolf here, I'd expect her play to be imbued with more vagueness and contain less investment. I'd expect her to muddle the waters all the time, leading to misyeets. I don't think the eva yeet would've happened without her, especially since I wasn't around at EoD to change my vote. Basically, if Thunal's mafia, then we might as well go to postgame.
I think eva was right about Schweppes giving up, and she tried to turn it into a good look for him - by asking awesome that question about Schweppes's WiM.
This should just make awesome town, actually. Why would eva ask scum!awesome that question? Neither of them would care, since Schweppes is town and getting him misyeeted is a part of their wincon at this point. There's no need to posture around Schweppes's slot so much. Eva doesn't need to ask her partner in the main thread whether Schweppes giving up is alignment indicative for him. They both already know they need to push him. They could still do that posturing, but since they are under pressure (eva's getting a lot of heat), I doubt that would have happened.
I also suspect that part of eva's frustrations must have been related to being teamed with Schweppes. You literally see it in one of her first posts, when she tells Schweppes she can't carry him. It must've really sucked for her to come this far and then lose just because Schweppes isn't playing the game.
This would explain her desperation, her trying to make Schweppes look better, her not wanting to push him at first but committing to it wholeheartedly once she was solidified as the alternative... everything. Eva left as the lone wolf is still more likely to win than Schweppes left as the lone wolf, because Schweppes isn't really playing the game, and eva is. That's why she really didn't want to die there. She was her team's win condition.
I said that yesterday would've looked differently with town Schweppes. Why did I say that? If there's a deeper wolf, eva has no reason to be this desperate. The other wolf can still win this game. Well, more importantly, they can just push Schweppes... but even ignoring that, the wolfteam has a win condition not named evakyoo. The only world where eva absolutely has to survive yesterday is a world where her partner isn't going to win alone.
I think there's almost no way that Eva goes this hard against Quick and votes him seven times as partners, especially since she looked annoyed that people didn't listen to her pushes on Quick in #2682
The Raven: A Light Game! Day 7 Votecount
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 1 Schweppes Vulgard (13) 5 Not voting Rose Disco (3), Quick (0), Schweppes (1), Thunal33 (7), awesome5000 (1)
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Quick creates a PoE of Schweppes/eva/Ultra.
Eva goes super hard on Quick immediately after.
These are never partners. This was on the day Ultra was yeeted. This was a push from eva that she had to make because she was running out of misyeets.
Asking the player she pocketed and her probable wolf partner to help her push a villager.
The Schweppes ping makes no sense here if Schweppes is town. She doesn't have him pocketed if he's town. Awesome fits the bill, but Schweppes does not. There's no guarantee he will follow her.
It's really out of place, too, because she had barely talked about him or worked with him. This looks more like "I can't get him to do anything in wolfchat, might as well try here for good measure."
My order is:
The entire content of the third post is a complete lie.
I don't think eva puts so much effort into interacting with awesome all game if they are partners, even considering the fact they know each other well.
can we quick hammer Schweppes and (hopefully) end this##Vote Schweppes
Quick was supposedly eva's strongest wolf on day 2 already, from what I'm reading.
More townpoints for him.
The bolded part is funny considering she claims he's mafia. TMI SLIP TMI SLIP PERSPECTIVE SLIP OOOOOOO WOLF WOLF WOLF
- only when someone else brings him up first
- a subtle defense of his slot based on "other suspects existing."
She doesn't treat any other player left alive like that. She talks to awesome all the time and tries to keep him voting with her. She tries to pit Thunal against me, gaslights and pushes Quick, pushes Phraze and gaslights me.
The evidence of Schweppes being the last wolf just keeps piling up.
How do you find the motivation to put this much effort
I’m actually curious