Season 8, Semifinals 3: Yo ho! A Mafia's life for me (The Mafia Championship)

[vanity.]

oh ok i can post again

[Wisdom]

Okay if you haven't played with SuperJack before you might find them having a style uncommon for MU, similar to Ace's. Just know that before you stop town reading them.

And Justin is still cleared due to how real his anger with Holy was. He literally was mad at the whole game due to the Bucket and then Holy tunnel just made it worse. That was not faked.

@Holyflare

so? wolves have emotions too. It doesn't even need to be fake

I don't buy it. But you're free to throw the game when I'm dead I guess

ok i think sj is a villager but this is kinda unnecessary tbh.

sorry xD I'm just confident on my read and Esooa doesn't use actual arguments to tell me why I'm wrong on TRing the slot.

[The Sun Fan]

this is what happens when you give people pronouns

liberal agenda smh smh smh

[Holyflare]

I am he/him, the forum never let me forget.

[c4e5g3d5]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

[Esooa]

so? wolves have emotions too. It doesn't even need to be fake

I don't buy it. But you're free to throw the game when I'm dead I guess

ok i think sj is a villager but this is kinda unnecessary tbh.

sorry xD I'm just confident on my read and Esooa doesn't use actual arguments to tell me why I'm wrong on TRing the slot.

well I still town read them tbh

just not clearing them

[Ampharos]

i'm about to make makaze's pronouns was/were

[orangeandblack5]

as kind of a baseline of where i'm at right now, i still think orange is playing this phase exactly like he would need to play it as a wolf, regardless of who his partners are

i see the reasons to scumread c4 and would not be surprised at all if he flipped red, but i also have more reasons to townread him than i do orange

i'm not suuuuuuuper interested in wagons outside of those 2? i still think sunfan is a villager, and i recognize that concern is being voiced about JPIC but that's not something i super want to entertain without another flip. i think ejji's play here has been... odd, but it might be a villagery sort of odd? unsure

I strongly disagree that as scum I need to specifically fight c4 over you/Holy but aight

Wanna get on the right side of those 2?

i think it was clear after other people's reactions to my posting last night that you probably weren't gonna get the traction you needed if you continued to push me

and i think you were able to a lot more feasibly "flip the chessboard" and pivot onto c4 than you were to jump on holy. think it would have looked bad for you to hop from one counterwagon to another, and think this is something w!you is definitely cognizant of

prolly would have

1. just tdomed him like justin wanted

2. barring that, literally ever shaded him

3. not townread him super strongly on my way to another cw for a fallback plan

[Wisdom]

that pronouns bug sure was meme-worthy, I hope spec chat got affected as well

[Necrominus]

What the hell was that!

[vanity.]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

[Mafia Host]

Season 8, Semifinals 3: Yo ho! A Mafia's life for me (The Mafia Championship) Day 2 Votecount

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
5	c4e5g3d5	Necrominus (71), vanity. (188), Pilica (60), Wisdom (192), Holyflare (154)
4	orangeandblack5	Ampharos (141), Secondhand Revenant (158), c4e5g3d5 (131), Justplayingitcool (113)
2	The Sun Fan	Esooa (181), ejjinami (118)
1	Holyflare	SuperJack (160)
1	Ampharos	The Sun Fan (180)
1	Justplayingitcool	orangeandblack5 (217)

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End day at majority is enabled. With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority.

Day 2 ends at 6:00 PM EDT on Saturday, September 4th, 2021. There are 1630792860000 remaining.

[Secondhand Revenant]

so? wolves have emotions too. It doesn't even need to be fake

I don't buy it. But you're free to throw the game when I'm dead I guess

ok i think sj is a villager but this is kinda unnecessary tbh.

sorry xD I'm just confident on my read and Esooa doesn't use actual arguments to tell me why I'm wrong on TRing the slot.

I mean, I said it a bit more elaborately on why idt that anger had to be AI, they were things wolf!Justin can be mad about too + me aggravating him

Still think tho his stuff wrt Levi d2 felt real and talk of how Levi advanced the game and emotion behind it lined up a lot with his view of who the wolves were

[Pilica]

May you elaborate on the specific situation? Just so to know if you'd bus a partner this game or nah~

I already said I wouldn't
up to you to believe me or not

busing is 99.9999% of the time explicitly bad in small-to-mid sized games and I have had this stance for close to 10 years now

Boo was hoping to get some more info about that redacted specific scenario you mentioned. As you said there'd be a case where you would bus.

But well I ain't a fan of bussing myself, even if people told me to do it more. Already played with some hyper bussers lol XD The hardest I was bussed was when I was still in my catchup and my last buddy hammered me to go deep. (Hi Marl I know you're reading this, would wolf with you again XD)

I'd mostly have to see the scenario to know, but the best possible answer I can give to this is if someone else asked me to do it, and I thought it wasn't a horrible idea because of something like they were always in the POE, slot was dirty for some reason, something like that

I'm a very firm believer that close to any slot can be saved barring mech info, and that village is back enough to even sometimes let the mech info get away from them

to make this more productive, what about you, though?
bussing good or bussing bad
no "it depends" allowed

Gotcha ^^

Well I'm kind of a powerwolf player. My life expectance is like around d3 normally so I don't really bus. The only reason I'd do it would be to go deep. Kind of if they're a dead weight on the team as well. For example we have a wolf who by merely existing is just giving away more and more so I rather shred them and bus them myself than risking them to put the team at a worse spot. Very specific, I know but that's a situation where I already bussed XD But in general: Bussing bad. Distancing, yes. Bussing? No. Or like only voting them when they aren't in danger of dying.

[orangeandblack5]

I'm just gonna hope I'm wrong on c4 when you guys inevitably kill him

you are or we're completely $%#!ed

[c4e5g3d5]

This EoD has been me trying to keep up writing down all the things I never want to be read on again

[Wisdom]

i'm about to make makaze's pronouns was/were

LAUGH TELL

TOWN CLEARED

(Don't care that this basically applies to 5+ people this game)
(I do, but thanks for making this game entertaining everyone )

[Justplayingitcool]

god i wish i was a pr, this game would be so much more fun

[vanity.]

I'm just gonna hope I'm wrong on c4 when you guys inevitably kill him

you are or we're completely $%#!ed

no we're not. the game isn't unsolveable if you and c4 are both villagers. i just don't want people giving up if it turns out we're wrong.

[Wisdom]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

I guess that could explain why you sound like a balloon without air

Go energize, and get hydrated! Then legacy if you're still a wagon when you come back!

[orangeandblack5]

your last statement on me before that one, which is "his bucket thing was NAI" and not a real stance, was literally "I think he's probably a miss"

that's a $%#!ing townread

wtf?

relink that post because i do not see that statement in any of the posts you've linked

I want to avoid a situation like yesterday where everyone hates the wagons and there's a sense of helplessness.

Does anyone strongly object to both the orange and holy wagons? Like if you like only one that's fine, I'm saying does anyone hate both? Besides orange and holy :P

If not I honestly want to push this

Don't really want a Holy wagon.

Not against an orange wagon, just a little unconvinced that it's a hit atm

that is unequivocally a townread

it ain't strong

but it exists

the rest of your posts are similarly weak and like the fact the best you can talk about wrt my slot is my literal first post of the game mid-D2 is weak as $%#! either way

I also said i wasn't against the wagon which you've conveniently ignored. I just wasn't completely convinced at that point in time.

I literally quoted the whole post my guy

there's no convenience here

I said I was pretty sure you had done X

you asked for quotes

I provided quotes that showed you had indeed done X

the fact I also pointed out it was more like x than X doesn't suddenly mean I provided Y

[Esooa]

I'm a PR. it's called esooa

[c4e5g3d5]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

Like this one

If exploding at EoD is mandatory then who the $%#! is mafia's target audience

I'm hard pushing my reads and that should be enough

[The Sun Fan]

god i wish i was a pr, this game would be so much more fun

i have finally found a villagery JPIC post
i bet the PRs will tell you that its not a field of roses on their side though

[Ampharos]

as kind of a baseline of where i'm at right now, i still think orange is playing this phase exactly like he would need to play it as a wolf, regardless of who his partners are

i see the reasons to scumread c4 and would not be surprised at all if he flipped red, but i also have more reasons to townread him than i do orange

i'm not suuuuuuuper interested in wagons outside of those 2? i still think sunfan is a villager, and i recognize that concern is being voiced about JPIC but that's not something i super want to entertain without another flip. i think ejji's play here has been... odd, but it might be a villagery sort of odd? unsure

I strongly disagree that as scum I need to specifically fight c4 over you/Holy but aight

Wanna get on the right side of those 2?

i think it was clear after other people's reactions to my posting last night that you probably weren't gonna get the traction you needed if you continued to push me

and i think you were able to a lot more feasibly "flip the chessboard" and pivot onto c4 than you were to jump on holy. think it would have looked bad for you to hop from one counterwagon to another, and think this is something w!you is definitely cognizant of

prolly would have

1. just tdomed him like justin wanted

2. barring that, literally ever shaded him

3. not townread him super strongly on my way to another cw for a fallback plan

do you not agree that this c4 wagon was pretty blatantly bubbling under the surface the entire day?

i am 0% surprised that he's got the most votes rn

[Pilica]

orange is reminding me of wolf lukundo kinda lol

Maybe that's the reason why I've gotta think about Lukundo a lot XD

Also the comment on Orange's read list about me being terrified about me if c4/Eiji would flip v reminded me a lot of Kundos paranoia from the game I posted when I was comparing my games for Wisdom.

[Secondhand Revenant]

I'm just gonna hope I'm wrong on c4 when you guys inevitably kill him

you are or we're completely $%#!ed

no we're not. the game isn't unsolveable if you and c4 are both villagers. i just don't want people giving up if it turns out we're wrong.

I mean I'll probably be at the same place still but should use the time to consider further implications ig

[Holyflare]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

Like this one

If exploding at EoD is mandatory then who the $%#! is mafia's target audience

I'm hard pushing my reads and that should be enough

Can you give me a brief sentence on each?

[Justplayingitcool]

wtf?

relink that post because i do not see that statement in any of the posts you've linked

Don't really want a Holy wagon.

Not against an orange wagon, just a little unconvinced that it's a hit atm

that is unequivocally a townread

it ain't strong

but it exists

the rest of your posts are similarly weak and like the fact the best you can talk about wrt my slot is my literal first post of the game mid-D2 is weak as $%#! either way

I also said i wasn't against the wagon which you've conveniently ignored. I just wasn't completely convinced at that point in time.

I literally quoted the whole post my guy

there's no convenience here

I said I was pretty sure you had done X

you asked for quotes

I provided quotes that showed you had indeed done X

the fact I also pointed out it was more like x than X doesn't suddenly mean I provided Y

lol

so you're just going to strip out part of a sentence without the context then?

[SuperJack]

Ampharos


c4e5g3d5


ejjinami


Esooa


Holyflare


Justplayingitcool


Necrominus


orangeandblack5


Pilica


Secondhand Revenant


The Sun Fan


vanity.


Wisdom

[The Sun Fan]

I'm a PR. it's called esooa

what's your night action?

[orangeandblack5]

I'm just gonna hope I'm wrong on c4 when you guys inevitably kill him

you are or we're completely $%#!ed

no we're not. the game isn't unsolveable if you and c4 are both villagers. i just don't want people giving up if it turns out we're wrong.

It's not unsolveable and JPIC is probably still the next kill in that world and probably flips red

but I have no idea where to go next atm

probably like

amy/pilica?

sunfan/shr both prob not it in that case

this would be the world where I start questioning esooa a lot

[c4e5g3d5]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

Like this one

If exploding at EoD is mandatory then who the $%#! is mafia's target audience

I'm hard pushing my reads and that should be enough

Can you give me a brief sentence on each?

Wtf are you asking for here

[Secondhand Revenant]

Ampharos


c4e5g3d5


ejjinami


Esooa


Holyflare


Justplayingitcool


Necrominus


orangeandblack5


Pilica


Secondhand Revenant


The Sun Fan


vanity.


Wisdom

I'm gonna make an alt called 2ndhand Revenant just to make it higher on alphabetical lists

[Esooa]

I'm a PR. it's called esooa

what's your night action?

Cop check with 60% accuracy

[vanity.]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

Like this one

If exploding at EoD is mandatory then who the $%#! is mafia's target audience

I'm hard pushing my reads and that should be enough

that's fine but it's just. not really enough right now, at least for me personally. i'm not tunneling at all. i'm trying to consider all possible perspectives atm.

well except for esooa w because esooa pocketed me

[orangeandblack5]

Don't really want a Holy wagon.

Not against an orange wagon, just a little unconvinced that it's a hit atm

that is unequivocally a townread

it ain't strong

but it exists

the rest of your posts are similarly weak and like the fact the best you can talk about wrt my slot is my literal first post of the game mid-D2 is weak as $%#! either way

I also said i wasn't against the wagon which you've conveniently ignored. I just wasn't completely convinced at that point in time.

I literally quoted the whole post my guy

there's no convenience here

I said I was pretty sure you had done X

you asked for quotes

I provided quotes that showed you had indeed done X

the fact I also pointed out it was more like x than X doesn't suddenly mean I provided Y

lol

so you're just going to strip out part of a sentence without the context then?

I don't understand your accusation here

I didn't strip out anything, I quoted the entire post

[The Sun Fan]

I strongly disagree that as scum I need to specifically fight c4 over you/Holy but aight

Wanna get on the right side of those 2?

i think it was clear after other people's reactions to my posting last night that you probably weren't gonna get the traction you needed if you continued to push me

and i think you were able to a lot more feasibly "flip the chessboard" and pivot onto c4 than you were to jump on holy. think it would have looked bad for you to hop from one counterwagon to another, and think this is something w!you is definitely cognizant of

prolly would have

1. just tdomed him like justin wanted

2. barring that, literally ever shaded him

3. not townread him super strongly on my way to another cw for a fallback plan

do you not agree that this c4 wagon was pretty blatantly bubbling under the surface the entire day?

i am 0% surprised that he's got the most votes rn

I kinda think orange and holyflare were bubbling more?
hopefully not too criminal to think

[Holyflare]

If you are currently not on C4 or Orange wagons, please give me a few sentences of why you aren't and what exactly you're doing at this EoD to change our minds.

[Esooa]

I'm just gonna hope I'm wrong on c4 when you guys inevitably kill him

you are or we're completely $%#!ed

no we're not. the game isn't unsolveable if you and c4 are both villagers. i just don't want people giving up if it turns out we're wrong.

It's not unsolveable and JPIC is probably still the next kill in that world and probably flips red

but I have no idea where to go next atm

probably like

amy/pilica?

sunfan/shr both prob not it in that case

this would be the world where I start questioning esooa a lot

fake

[Secondhand Revenant]

I'm just gonna hope I'm wrong on c4 when you guys inevitably kill him

you are or we're completely $%#!ed

no we're not. the game isn't unsolveable if you and c4 are both villagers. i just don't want people giving up if it turns out we're wrong.

It's not unsolveable and JPIC is probably still the next kill in that world and probably flips red

but I have no idea where to go next atm

probably like

amy/pilica?

sunfan/shr both prob not it in that case

this would be the world where I start questioning esooa a lot

Atm you only have two wolves in mind yeah?

[The Sun Fan]

If you are currently not on C4 or Orange wagons, please give me a few sentences of why you aren't and what exactly you're doing at this EoD to change our minds.

because c4 has 5 votes and if he gets 3 more he goes over

i'd like to talk about orange and a few other things before that happens

[Esooa]

I haven't eaten lunch and don't know if I can make it through the next hour

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

Like this one

If exploding at EoD is mandatory then who the $%#! is mafia's target audience

I'm hard pushing my reads and that should be enough

that's fine but it's just. not really enough right now, at least for me personally. i'm not tunneling at all. i'm trying to consider all possible perspectives atm.

well except for esooa w because esooa pocketed me

[Wisdom]

Thing is

if C4 and JPIC are wolves
who's the last one
is it still Orange?

Who hear thinks Orange is wolf but NOT c4?

[Holyflare]

eat please.

and if you're a villager please show more fire.

Like this one

If exploding at EoD is mandatory then who the $%#! is mafia's target audience

I'm hard pushing my reads and that should be enough

Can you give me a brief sentence on each?

Wtf are you asking for here

Your top 3 mafia reads and maybe a sentence on two on each to explain why they're mafia. Sorry if you've posted them before, I've missed them or they're all spread out. Would just like a nice collated one to see.

[orangeandblack5]

I strongly disagree that as scum I need to specifically fight c4 over you/Holy but aight

Wanna get on the right side of those 2?

i think it was clear after other people's reactions to my posting last night that you probably weren't gonna get the traction you needed if you continued to push me

and i think you were able to a lot more feasibly "flip the chessboard" and pivot onto c4 than you were to jump on holy. think it would have looked bad for you to hop from one counterwagon to another, and think this is something w!you is definitely cognizant of

prolly would have

1. just tdomed him like justin wanted

2. barring that, literally ever shaded him

3. not townread him super strongly on my way to another cw for a fallback plan

do you not agree that this c4 wagon was pretty blatantly bubbling under the surface the entire day?

i am 0% surprised that he's got the most votes rn

I don't agree, no, from my point of view basically the entire day looked like it was heading towards me and Holy until I started generating alternatives

It probably doesn't help that I started townreading c4 midday and so didn't want that until I realized I was being pushed into a situation I hated

[vanity.]

If you are currently not on C4 or Orange wagons, please give me a few sentences of why you aren't and what exactly you're doing at this EoD to change our minds.

because c4 has 5 votes and if he gets 3 more he goes over

i'd like to talk about orange and a few other things before that happens

well yes this is the obvious answer. not everyone should be voting rn.

[SuperJack]

If you are currently not on C4 or Orange wagons, please give me a few sentences of why you aren't and what exactly you're doing at this EoD to change our minds.

Mostly, a Billion things going on, a billion things to do and I dont know what to prioratize

[Pilica]

Help whenever I go to the current page I get spammed with pronouns

Glad it's not just me tbh, 'do you like the color of pronouns'? Clicking through it feels like that tumblr post that never ends with the sky

[vanity.]

Thing is

if C4 and JPIC are wolves
who's the last one
is it still Orange?

Who hear thinks Orange is wolf but NOT c4?

i don't really think c4/jpic/ob5 is a world?