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    https://forum.mafiascum.net/memberli...rofile&u=34757

    bc if this is you, you inned to a newbie game and never did anything else.

    And that implies that's your main account - ergo you *don't* have the experience with these roles like you claimed to.

    If you want me to do deeper research I can - because like I said to you in DMs, I used to catch cheaters on Epicmafia and read many many games to see if someone was innocent or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#3151)
    https://forum.mafiascum.net/memberli...rofile&u=34757

    bc if this is you, you inned to a newbie game and never did anything else.

    And that implies that's your main account - ergo you *don't* have the experience with these roles like you claimed to.

    If you want me to do deeper research I can - because like I said to you in DMs, I used to catch cheaters on Epicmafia and read many many games to see if someone was innocent or not.
    Played a long time ago on MU. Think the account was named Kbwuf. Played on AoPS as well, there are games from there I can link.

    Jeffisepic and summitwei are two of the best players I've ever seen in my life and they are both from there, fwiw.

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    Uhhhhhhh ok. Had a massive essay about Koba being a good vote rereading d1 ready to go. Nate brought up good points about how cyclone and hockey were never SvS based on the PR claims. I thought Cows/Koba was the solve. Didn't see wangalang coming.

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    This game has been brought to you by the letter "L".
    Last edited by MeteorNate; September 14th, 2021 at 07:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorNate (#3154)
    This game has been brought to you by the letter "L".
    No editing posts Nathaniel. Reported.

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    Koba deep wolf? - was very hard on hockey 316, 318, 330, 360 claims secret reason to protect grandpa softs later claims backup PR I assume they are “attempting” to find the town PR which seems a little performative as backups can A) be a red herring B) can backup a mafia C) PR reading vs TRing in my opinion is not a consistent thing, differentiating if someone is coming across as weird because they are scum vs PR is very difficult to ascertain when you are town, much easier to do when you are mafia 363 koba acts very aggressively towards hockey who ends up speaking back in aggressive tone in 365, 367 which I do think gives off some s/s vibes. T3 369 actually has very interesting observation “Koba has less WIM than I remember of town them.” I’ve never played with Koba but t3 is basically lock town to me so maybe this means something. Koba will later claim that Cyclone is not making organic reads but the way Koba interacts with hockey is very strange - like they are not making attempts to make hockey reveal thought process or information, they are more just calling them scummy without giving any test or investigation to hockey with short cutoff responses like 374 that kill the conversation, I tend not to do things like this as town when I’m trying to sort a player especially this early into the game. When cyclone comes in in 379 pointing out how strange these interactions appear I remember initially TRing him because I was also getting weird vibes off of the prior comments, felt like a genuine read from cyclone. 381 feels weird, koba is testing cyclone but makes it explicitly obvious it is a test in 382 - so what exactly will koba gain from this test? To quote koba’s later pop off on cyclone, this doesn’t feel like a genuine attempt to sort cyclone it comes across as performative. 385 and 386 it honestly doesn’t feel like koba is trying to process cyclone’s SR, 389 comes across as very weird - it’s very easy for a town to sus another town if you sus a random person odds are it will be town, expecting someone to read you perfectly early into d1 and using that as a mark against them is somewhat strange. 393 the post hoc justification sound townie in isolation tbh, but i’m not sure 391 is accurate I don’t think cyclone misattributed anything, 394 sounds townie in isolation but what exactly is Koba gaining from openly telling cyclone “I am judging you on whether you will vote hockey or not” and then watching what he does? As a town I just don’t feel like that reaction test is very useful, what someone does when they aren’t feeling they are being observed is much more informative. 399 doesn’t feel like an effort to actually speak to cyclone and gauge how genuine he is in either his Koba or hockey sus, it just shuts down the conversation and gets nowhere. 401 someone later interprets this as a soft as well, but why would koba be softing so awkwardly as town here like what purpose does it serve? Also why would you soft that you are a backup? In 683 hockey puts grandpa and koba as his SRs, level 1 mafia play is to sus one town one mafia, I think GPA is town so that would leave koba as the possible scum in the pair. 453, don’t understand this reaction test either? ask pretender a question and then tell him you’re using his answer to eliminate worlds? Just comes across as strange. It’s possible that Cyclone Koba can be TvT, but right now I probably have cyclone as townier than Koba thinks to Nate logic of why would hockey and cyclone both claim PR and also why did cyclone claim PR in the first place to put himself in the noose when he wasn’t being voted? 552 T3 also got the feeling koba wasn’t solving. at #588 there are 5 people on koba’s wagon cyclone, hockey, T3, dino, Nate - hockey was mafia but the others I kind of think are townie - this doesn’t mean that koba is necessarily scum. 589 - Koba later accuses cyclone of TMI, but they make a lot of comments that come across as TMI as well lol 578 as well. I still don’t understand why koba didn’t start scum casing hockey rather than picking a fight with cyclone if they thought hockey was so scummy, like why are they voting cyclone at this point? They say it’s because they baited cyclone but all koba did was refuse to give reasoning for anything they said and told cyclone they were RTing them as stated above. 608 does read townie tbh. As does 603. Actually maybe 613 reads town “the way you are describing cyclone, hockey reads TMI” when hockey is in actually scum and Nate is calling him town. Not sure. 627 sounds somewhat genuine, but I don’t feel like Nate was nitpicking or unfair, idk why koba can’t just start explaining some of the things they say. maybe it’s a little town to deny nate that explanation though - but I’m not seeing Koba really trying to probe or engage with nate’s thought process though. I do get what T3 commented on where it’s hard to see the solviness in Koba’s brain here. 629 feels a little townie too - I think these series of posts was were I started losing steam on Koba SR. 632 not really feeling Cape/Koba S/S here. 638 actually seems townie LOL. 650 Koba vouches for Cape town when I made the read and I already didn’t have them S/S, maybe that’s a plus for Cape. 668 is a hard spot? Is this a real townslip? Koba finds the answer in 1 minute. Also, shouldn’t Koba know the answer to this if they’ve played a bit of forum before? 835 sounds townie saying if i was maf i would play sacrificial lamb 895 reads very stragely why do they assume cyclone is just mason? When my Scum reads claim my I think they are scum and if koba is backup there is no such thing as backup mason. Actually maybe this is the reason why koba is scum - if they are backup to some power role why would they think there are masons in the game? There would have to be at least two masons then the PR koba is backing up isn’t that kinda OP? And assuming that Koba thought Cyclone was mason with another player and Hockey claimed simple doctor which Koba wasn’t backing up them then Koba would be back up for a 4th town PR? How does that make any sense? Yet Koba un votes hockey after he claims simple doctor - shouldn’t koba be pretty confident that’s BS if they’ve assumed cyclone is mason? 907 3 masons and koba is backup to PR? hockey distances from koba a lot like in 920. 998 does sound townie. 1006 idk why they are so mad like just give reads lol why would you deprive the rest of town of your reads just to spite you Scum read? 1012 957 1009 lots of weird s v s kinda interaction hockey and koba. 1016 why would you trustfall with your biggest SR?

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    Figured I wouldn't let it go to waste lol.

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    so ur telling me there was reasons to scumread koba? who woulda thought

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    the thing about a lot of the things you listed are things that will happen when I am town in the early game - because i will always on d1 earlygame just $%#!push someone for the reaction ,but overall nice, because it really takes reading me as a whole after a dayphase to sort me confidently, which is hard because i post a *lot*. i always tell people when im town to just "read the damn ISO" because i feel pretty blatantly town when i am town xD

    just so ya dont end up mislimming me as town lol

    the key thing you were correct on is what i *didn't* do - which is the key factor in reading me, is I intentionally ignore things to make my logic fit.

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    did i not also bring up your one liners and lack of addressing overall posts? like just ignoring parts of the game to seem townier? because im about 99 percent sure i did lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells (#2073)
    i think that our deepwolf is in your round table sir
    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells (#2077)
    i think that rc dkkoba t3 has 0 scum and we're all voting one person
    Also: consume pants.

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    Anyways, ggs all was fun to participate in a forum game with you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds (#3162)
    Anyways, ggs all was fun to participate in a forum game with you all.
    GGs. Town won this game regardless of what anyone says, and that’s just the truth of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrCyclone (#3163)
    Quote Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds (#3162)
    Anyways, ggs all was fun to participate in a forum game with you all.
    GGs. Town won this game regardless of what anyone says, and that’s just the truth of it.
    still waiting on those game links where you encounter informed modifier

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    I'm DMing shelly. We are handling it. I have no interest in talking to someone who accuses me of cheating because I solved the game.

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    FWIW I have no idea how that proves anything regardless. I've seen plenty of setups with informed modifier and iirc in was in multiple mafia.gg closed with informed roles. Like what? I'm 99 percent sure I was mafia with Auryxx and one of us was informed.

    It's not an alien concept.

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    my gut says cyclone was cheating

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    cyclone got banned with 669 posts

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    au revoir

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