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    Player Substitution in Constellations Team Mafia

    -TJ- has subbed in for Illwei.

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    Player Substitution in Constellations Team Mafia

    PunchyTheCat has subbed in for Ace Marvel.

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    Player Substitution in Constellations Team Mafia

    neopest has subbed in for alexa.

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    Player Substitution in Constellations Team Mafia

    Wurzel Scummidge has subbed in for Okosan.

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    Player Substitution in Constellations Team Mafia

    YOLOSWAG has subbed in for SilverKeith.

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    iaafr -> Arete
    Bunnelby -> Apogee
    Ren4977 -> Trustworthy Liberal
    Dunnstral -> Chelsea
    Schiavetto -> Spiderz
    Vaporeon -> Cyndaquil
    katze -> min
    Makoto Niijima -> Hifumi Togo
    evakyoo -> 3cheersforidiots
    Dyslexicon -> Michelle
    Phraze -> GGhana
    Lissa -> dyachei
    Macdougall -> nutella
    bearsquared -> Duk3star
    Luckbox Inc -> Wiml
    Illwei -> -TJ-
    Ace Marvel -> PunchyTheCat
    alexa -> neopest
    Okosan -> Wurzel Scummidge
    SilverKeith -> YOLOSWAG

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    « Night 1 Results: Wurzel Scummidge was Vanilla Town, Wiml was Town Tracker »
    Constellations Team Mafia Night 1 Results

    Wurzel Scummidge has died. They were: Vanilla Town.
    Role PM for Constellations Team Mafia

    You are Vanilla Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.


    Wiml has died. They were: Town Tracker.
    Role PM for Constellations Team Mafia

    You are Town Tracker. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    Town Tracker

    As Town Tracker, you have access to the Tracking Night Action. Tracking another player informs you who that player used a Night Action on that night, if any. You will not learn what type of Night Action your target has. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.


    Night 1 has ended.

    Night 1 ended at 9:00 AM EDT on Wednesday, September 15th, 2021.

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    « Day 2 Start »
    Constellations Team Mafia Day 2 Start

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    Living Players

    @-TJ-
    @3cheersforidiots
    @Apogee
    @Arete
    @Chelsea
    @Cyndaquil
    @Duk3star
    @dyachei
    @GGhana
    @Hifumi Togo
    @Michelle
    @min
    @neopest
    @nutella
    @PunchyTheCat
    @Spiderz
    @Trustworthy Liberal
    @YOLOSWAG

    Day 2 ends at 9:00 PM EDT on Thursday, September 16th, 2021. There are 1631840460000 remaining.

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    Team 16 reveals to be Cygnus.



    Team 20 reveals to be Capricornus

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    Thank $%#! I'm alive I have so much to say

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    ##Vote Hifumi Togo



    Pretty sure this is SPF and her being here instead of sunbae is borderline outing

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    I haven’t read $%#! since like 1/4 into the game but plan on pulling a wolf lunch out of my $%#! anyway

    swag

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    know u guys wanted marl, really sorry about that

    im not much harder to read, I promise. I'll also probably be in thread for most of the day besides a few moments anyway.

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    team is fully

    towards evaaaa!slot rn

    something something mechanically optimal so we'll let them check in

    but yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG (#5367)
    I haven’t read $%#! since like 1/4 into the game but plan on pulling a wolf lunch out of my $%#! anyway

    swag
    You better

    Hey good morning everyone 😊

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    Overnight ramblings:

    Ok surely bear is just mafia by how yesterday went down not to mention his reactions to my team's push (eg P#2956, P#3328). I also still think my specific bear/phraze w/w case was pretty good (P#3306 is so yikes) but understand if ppl dont necessarily want to focus on preflip associatives. But yeah basically the threadstate around him spews him mafia imo -- midday wagon that didnt last, multiple strong teams incl a conf village ladd slot (sorry again) plus me/mac/alison PLUS lissa/dya/benneh PLUS hally/sunbae/ephemeral all had wolfreads on him that somehow went nowhere and wasn't a wagon at eod. Like. What do yall think is happening there?? How can we let that slide??

    Btw I do apologize if the initial scumread wasn't conveyed super well, I gave Mac reasons like how I viewed Bear as discrediting some early townreads and generally not having villagery posts and I fairly quickly made the comparison to my Beck tunnel in SK18er where similarly here I just could not see anything the slot posted as coming from a villager. Honestly there was some content from him later in the phase that made me reconsider this a bit, but nothing that really swayed me, plenty of stuff I still saw as agendaed (and associatively bad with other ppl i wolfread) and the thread read around how his slot has been handled just brings back the confidence.

    There is still a chance I get pocketed by empoof lol -- Jk nevermind wtf empoof isnt going in?! ok the slot is just an outed wolf then lmfao. Or maybe it's wifom idk. Or maybe availability but didnt bear say duke was gonna be d3 and imply poof was d2 idk whatever im probably overthinking it but i wanted to see poof bc hes cute uwu (hi SK u too love u)

    Anyway actually mac has reservations on the push now too and thinks some stuff was maybe ok/some potential real tilt except he also thinks bear never sussing him was bad/tmi/how wolves he pushes usually react so yeah im probably gonna do some classic nutella hedging on it wowee also nanook says he can read duke anyway

    Also katze was wolfy all day idk why nobody else except apparently anne thought this smh.

    Side note that I'm feeling might turn into more than a side note: sunbae et al hardpushing cage is kinda a question mark and also now the fact that hifumi who i am p sure is SPF (bc hally said they know alexa well) is in is kinda esp considering sunbae seemed most active from team reads so mrrr

    ...ok the more I think about it the more I might actually want to bury persona slot actually. I get that hally (and yes it was obv hally lol) was busy irl but was still p underwhelming, thought they were kinda cringe in a way that's more town for them at first but the bad push in retrospect is def worth scrutiny

    But also I thought nic cage was p wolfy myself and agreed enough with the push at the time so meh maybe it was fine. Mac thinks the post about changing their server name was wolfy posturing. Idk hi spf pls say altogether too many words so I can tunnel you kthx. Also why are you here instead of sunbae thats such a bad look ngl.

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    I actually was scared we were 3p and kat was lying about our role until I came in because of how she was acting ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#5366)
    ##Vote Hifumi Togo



    Pretty sure this is SPF and her being here instead of sunbae is borderline outing
    team approves glgl

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    Quote Originally Posted by min (#5372)
    I actually was scared we were 3p and kat was lying about our role until I came in because of how she was acting ffs
    Maf alert

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    although like

    the sub read isn't it ioo

    but vote good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#5369)
    team is fully

    towards evaaaa!slot rn

    something something mechanically optimal so we'll let them check in

    but yeah
    I 100% agree btw

    I dont even get where the Nic wagon came from and was more busy being tunneled on Eva (which I still am)

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    Hello everyone, today is my turn ^^
    I didn't read much but i will try to be here as much as i can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#5373)
    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#5366)
    ##Vote Hifumi Togo



    Pretty sure this is SPF and her being here instead of sunbae is borderline outing
    team approves glgl
    Disagree more see cause my team would like to atleast follow nick cages legacy from yesterday today and there are people I and I guess our collective would like to push over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neopest (#5374)
    Quote Originally Posted by min (#5372)
    I actually was scared we were 3p and kat was lying about our role until I came in because of how she was acting ffs
    Maf alert
    denied, try again

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    Quote Originally Posted by min (#5379)
    Quote Originally Posted by neopest (#5374)
    Quote Originally Posted by min (#5372)
    I actually was scared we were 3p and kat was lying about our role until I came in because of how she was acting ffs
    Maf alert
    denied, try again
    Okay mafia

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    YEA YEA IM IN THIS $%#!##Vote PunchyTheCat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderz (#5381)
    YEA YEA IM IN THIS $%#!##Vote PunchyTheCat
    See now this.

    This is hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neopest (#5380)
    Quote Originally Posted by min (#5379)
    Quote Originally Posted by neopest (#5374)
    Quote Originally Posted by min (#5372)
    I actually was scared we were 3p and kat was lying about our role until I came in because of how she was acting ffs
    Maf alert
    denied, try again
    Okay mafia
    ewwwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#5375)
    although like

    the sub read isn't it ioo

    but vote good
    my long post has more tbh. Tldr cage push bad and showy, hally underwhelming

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    Im at school rn, I have a lot to say, ill try to stay reading thread throughout the day but I’m gonna have to wait till lunch till I make any serious post

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    “Ewwwwww” is what mafia say when caught

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    so uh, I have not read anything whatsoever other than the last few pages of EoD because #reallife, so like, my only take is that the entirety of the last 300 posts were dumb and I can't believe how half the game thought Nick Cage was villa but didn't CFD elsewhere
    like, if you feel DADV, then you do something about it instead of letting it go over smh
    like, wolves were clearly okay with how this went because we had v/v wagons and anything else was only mentioned in passing

    that's it tbh, I can't tell you anything about any individual slot

    also apparently Eva claimed odd night vig with a minute to go, which is like, wack and also makes no sense imo

    we're not an odd night vig; we're a 1-shot BP, and Eva says she claimed vig because she wanted to bait the NK
    which is still wack and I have no idea why she did that

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    I trust Nutella btw. I already TR’d Mac but I also tr’d Nutella talking thru Mac so this is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by neopest (#5386)
    “Ewwwwww” is what mafia say when caught
    no, I just smell u. i can already tell you're gonna try and make this day as miserable as possible for me but im simply not going to acknowledge you, sorry.

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    Hey anne

    anne 🤝 nutella
    wolfreading katze from backline and it being ignored

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#5384)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#5375)
    although like

    the sub read isn't it ioo

    but vote good
    my long post has more tbh. Tldr cage push bad and showy, hally underwhelming
    This is all your tl;dr?
    I won't read your wallie until prob later

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#5287)
    don’t want to self pres here but it seems like I have to

    ##Vote Nicolas Cage Stage 1

    sorry bud. like I said about bear - there are much worse players then you

    in the school bathroom rn lol

    @alexa you asked for a sentence on each so

    lissa seems to be coasting and i don’t have anything memorable from them, frozen moments, I’ve been considering spk for her!!
    luck ive already said so much about but they completely changed rails at some point, I’ve presented so many facts and evidence from PEOPLE IN THIS GAME that im not in my wolf meta but they are insistent on it, changed reads bc esooa is salty I bet her or just they know I’m easy to push
    bunnel seems to have low wim which I would expect from a wolf
    ace has had HORRIBLE progression, LOW CONTENT posts, and the reasons for their townreads are ??? when they haven’t done anything memorable or worth a townread
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#5293)
    also wtf was aces voting on me??
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#5297)
    let me ask you all, why on earth is luck even being townread??
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#5302)
    just get off me please
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#5318)
    $%#! y’all I’m a pr
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#5328)
    odd night vigi
    we think this sequence is pretty bad in terms of claim timing

    we do kind of? think it could have been this bad if eva is any combination of town onv, vt, goon, maf onv

    but still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#5369)
    team is fully

    towards evaaaa!slot rn

    something something mechanically optimal so we'll let them check in

    but yeah
    uhhhh understandable ig
    tbh I'd ask what the case on Eva was but like
    I literally don't know what she posted, so I'll just do my own little solving today, as much as I can

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    Hornet thoughts from last night or I suppose more reads list

    3cheers
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    Dya, Nut, -TJ-

    Duk3, YOLO, Hifumi

    Null: Wurzel, will, spider, Michelle, GGhana, Chelsea

    Cyndaquil, Neopest, Apogee

    Punchy


    Should have posted that sooner but I forgot lol

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    Arete thoughts

    Disclaimer: I'm currently caught up to page 71 (+I was around for EoD). Also, I know Rabbit summarized some of these reads yesterday, so those ones might be a bit repetitive.

    Probably town

    kat/min - Every time katze posts something from Arctic I think 'wow this is so townie. Arctic town' -- I have specific postnums in my notes, if anyone wants them but there's not a single post that I can point to as lock-clearing on its own. Additionally, I've repeatedly found myself mindmelding with kat while catching up, although that's a weaker point. Overall, I think this is very likely to be town for Arctic's posting. Approximately my only cause for concern is them sending in min rather than Marl, since Marl is so much easier to read.

    Luckbox/Wiml - I liked P#101 and the followup where Luckbox clarified that Alice was $%#!posting. That's a subtle point that I don't think that team would think to fake, and I absolutely believe that it actually happened (and obviously there's no reason for it to happen unless the team is really making reads).


    Some townie things

    Ren - I thought the last minute unvote in response to evaaaa's PR claim was villagery, especially since evaaaa claimed really late and it would be hard for a wolf to weigh the strategic merits of unvoting before the day ended, whereas town can just hit the unvote button before thinking.

    Illwei/TJ - They're posting a lot and apparently they don't post a lot as scum. I personally thought some of their posts were awkward but I think that's just her personality.

    Vaporeon - I had some concerns at first about how he wasn't really engaging with people's reasons to wolfread Alexa, but instead just saying 'Alexa town Alexa town,' and a couple posts that felt CFTWR. However, as much as I feel guilty about saying this, him blowing up a little bit in P#2017 is probably just clearing. Rabbit thinks that could be faked but I disagree, I think his regret looks genuine.

    Dizzy - if they're scum they're going really really hard on faking teamchat stuff so they're probably just town.

    MacDougall/nutella - all his posts about his teammates feel like themselves, if that makes sense? this is probably a weak point. I disagree with most of his team's reads, which is a bit concerning since they're all good players, but I do think he believes them.

    self-resolving

    evaaaa - PR claim

    idk/conflicted


    Dunnstral - they had a comment about the thread practicing "autofellatio" that was kind of villagery but they basically haven't done anything.

    Bun/Shia/Makoto/Lissa/Okosan/SK - no strong feelings about these (except Shia, but those aren't alignment indicative)

    Alexa - conflicted here, I thought her actual solving was lacking (as an example of this, she did an Iso on Bun where she only commented on 7 of Bun's 133 posts -- I feel like typically more than 7/133 posts would stick out?) However, I thought it was villagery when she talked about how she didn't want emotional stuff to become a trust tell for her. Idk, she gives me vibes of 'wolf who doesn't go over early but ends up being day-5'd and flips scum.'

    kind of wolfy

    Ace - not really responding to pressure the way I expect from town Ace.

    Phraze - I thought Phraze was underwhelming, and their team's contributions don't fit what I would expect from them as town, both because Emilia wasn't really giving any reads (she often struggles to produce content as scum), and because GGhana apparently had no reaction to the wagon on them -- as town I would expect him to either be like 'wtf look at all the WOLVES who are PUSHING us' or (if he thought he was being pushed by villas) to get upset about being pushed by villas.

    Bear^2/Duk^3 - His posting yesterday was excessively logical -- not that townies can't be logical, but it was specifically logical to a degree that only happens if you are actively trying to be perceived as the voice of reason, which is both wolfy-as-a-general-tell and consistent with what I know of his wolf meta from the Wooloo hydra game and the 1-post game. Additionally, his EoD was really bad -- there's basically no villagery panic or serious attempt to solve any of the wagons in anything but the most softball of ways (literally just read his posts in the last 10 minutes).

    Rabbit thoughts

    • Rabbit doesn't think Makoto is scum any more (unsure if this is 'thinks Makoto is town' or 'doesn't actively scumread them')
    • Rabbit thinks exactly 1 wolf in Punchy/TL
    • Rabbit thinks Luckbox talking about how villagery their own team is is fishy and that his reads have too much force in a wolfy way, he also thought the connections Nutella saw between Bear/Luckbox/Phraze seemed valid. Towards the end of the night he rethought this read for unclear reasons and now thinks Luckbox is town again.
    • by the middle of the night he was saying that there's at most 1 inside {Oko/Wurzel} and {Vaporeon/Cyndaquil}, and GTH 3 in {duk3star wurzel gghana tl punchy min} aka {bearsquared okosan phraze acemarvel katze} -- he also didn't like katze's EoD
    • His current world {duk3star wurzel gghana punchy min}, except that he doesn't think Phraze/kat are partnered
    • He thinks SK is a villager and really isn't looking forward to having to fight Macteam on that.
    • (rabbit sent this after SoD) I should tell @nutella that staying the course on Bear^Duke is a priority for him today, and he agrees with her concerns on kat and the Persona 5 alt team




    Disquieted thoughts

    • Disquited is unsure what kat is doing
    • Ace/schiavetto/bunn/Dizzy <- Disq is fine with all these people as townreads, least confident on Dizzy but Michelle is an easy read
    • Disquieted agrees that Bear's EoD was bad
    • Diquieted wants to know wtf katze is doing, but thinks Marl is out of wolfrange.
    • She would be surprised if evaaaa is town, but doesn't think the claim makes sense as a wolf. thank you very helpful.
    • Her biggest concern is Silverkeith






    Orange and eevee thoughts

    Orange is mad at you all for killing Dobby, and mad at rabbit for not swapping to Eva to try to save Dobbby, and warned us that he was going to 1000post on his day, and then complained that the postcap means he'll have to 700post in an hour. He's read about four pages of the game. He's sad about not getting to play on Chelsea or Wiml's day, and asked me to try to coordinate with @Esooa 's team to go in on the same day as her.

    eevee has read nothing, he has a project wrapping up today and he says he should have more time after that.

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    What does ONV mean @Apogee

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3cheersforidiots (#5387)
    sup

    so uh, I have not read anything whatsoever other than the last few pages of EoD because #reallife, so like, my only take is that the entirety of the last 300 posts were dumb and I can't believe how half the game thought Nick Cage was villa but didn't CFD elsewhere
    like, if you feel DADV, then you do something about it instead of letting it go over smh
    like, wolves were clearly okay with how this went because we had v/v wagons and anything else was only mentioned in passing

    that's it tbh, I can't tell you anything about any individual slot

    also apparently Eva claimed odd night vig with a minute to go, which is like, wack and also makes no sense imo

    we're not an odd night vig; we're a 1-shot BP, and Eva says she claimed vig because she wanted to bait the NK
    which is still wack and I have no idea why she did that
    Uh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3cheersforidiots (#5387)
    sup

    so uh, I have not read anything whatsoever other than the last few pages of EoD because #reallife, so like, my only take is that the entirety of the last 300 posts were dumb and I can't believe how half the game thought Nick Cage was villa but didn't CFD elsewhere
    like, if you feel DADV, then you do something about it instead of letting it go over smh
    like, wolves were clearly okay with how this went because we had v/v wagons and anything else was only mentioned in passing

    that's it tbh, I can't tell you anything about any individual slot

    also apparently Eva claimed odd night vig with a minute to go, which is like, wack and also makes no sense imo

    we're not an odd night vig; we're a 1-shot BP, and Eva says she claimed vig because she wanted to bait the NK
    which is still wack and I have no idea why she did that
    ##Vote 3cheersforidiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3cheersforidiots (#5387)
    sup

    so uh, I have not read anything whatsoever other than the last few pages of EoD because #reallife, so like, my only take is that the entirety of the last 300 posts were dumb and I can't believe how half the game thought Nick Cage was villa but didn't CFD elsewhere
    like, if you feel DADV, then you do something about it instead of letting it go over smh
    like, wolves were clearly okay with how this went because we had v/v wagons and anything else was only mentioned in passing

    that's it tbh, I can't tell you anything about any individual slot

    also apparently Eva claimed odd night vig with a minute to go, which is like, wack and also makes no sense imo

    we're not an odd night vig; we're a 1-shot BP, and Eva says she claimed vig because she wanted to bait the NK
    which is still wack and I have no idea why she did that
    OH HELLO

    AND GOODBYE

    ##Vote 3cheersforidiots

    gg ez lets lock it up

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    odd night vig

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