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    ##Vote Vroendal

    If anyone hammers early today though, I will policy vote you for the rest of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2752)
    ##Vote Vroendal

    If anyone hammers early today though, I will policy vote you for the rest of the game.
    Sell me on Vroe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2749)
    Quote Originally Posted by GGhana (#2748)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2747)
    @GGhana what do you think of Eva?
    not saying anything until my bomb goes off
    ok

    @c4e5g3d5

    What do you think of eva?
    On posts, super pure, towny conviction throughout
    Don't know wtf her D3 was, spending all her time focused on two slots that weren't Aldo and then hammering Aldo
    Still think she's probably just town

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2753)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2752)
    ##Vote Vroendal

    If anyone hammers early today though, I will policy vote you for the rest of the game.
    Sell me on Vroe
    I will, later. I'm going to be very hard pressed to vote for anyone else today though

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    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#2754)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2749)
    Quote Originally Posted by GGhana (#2748)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2747)
    @GGhana what do you think of Eva?
    not saying anything until my bomb goes off
    ok

    @c4e5g3d5

    What do you think of eva?
    On posts, super pure, towny conviction throughout
    Don't know wtf her D3 was, spending all her time focused on two slots that weren't Aldo and then hammering Aldo
    Still think she's probably just town
    What do you think the scum team is then?

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    I’m currently in the unique position of being the only one who knows I’m town, which means I actually have a potential perspective to find a wolf here. While being in the lowest PoE is an unnerving predicament, I’m sorry to break it to the wolves that I’m never in better form than when I’m being pushed and interacted with. Case me I dare you, all the cases on me suck right now or are non-existent there’s actually so many better ones because I haven’t played this game well so step up.

    Also all naked votes in this state of the game are awful, that was so last round get up wit’ the times. If you’re town your PoE has broken down upon itself, and you should already realize that at least one player’s slipped past you into your town-reads so pay attention and don’t make pre-flip associations right now, and also post your reads please consisting of a what and a why except for you GGhana you can do your thing because it's a townie thing.

    It is time to re-evaluate what I think and why I think that especially about these players: (evakyoo, Lag, Twice) and everyone should be doing the same thing because I hate to break it to you but the round doesn’t end with a w!Vro flip but you should already know that realistically at least one of them’s a wolf. I’m still mid-process of gathering my reads and/or cases on them because it’s actually a lil’ difficult to do so and I’m famously lazy but please stand by and above all don't hammer me.

    Also please talk to me I'm lonely and I like to talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2757)
    I’m currently in the unique position of being the only one who knows I’m town, which means I actually have a potential perspective to find a wolf here. While being in the lowest PoE is an unnerving predicament, I’m sorry to break it to the wolves that I’m never in better form than when I’m being pushed and interacted with. Case me I dare you, all the cases on me suck right now or are non-existent there’s actually so many better ones because I haven’t played this game well so step up.

    Also all naked votes in this state of the game are awful, that was so last round get up wit’ the times. If you’re town your PoE has broken down upon itself, and you should already realize that at least one player’s slipped past you into your town-reads so pay attention and don’t make pre-flip associations right now, and also post your reads please consisting of a what and a why except for you GGhana you can do your thing because it's a townie thing.

    It is time to re-evaluate what I think and why I think that especially about these players: (evakyoo, Lag, Twice) and everyone should be doing the same thing because I hate to break it to you but the round doesn’t end with a w!Vro flip but you should already know that realistically at least one of them’s a wolf. I’m still mid-process of gathering my reads and/or cases on them because it’s actually a lil’ difficult to do so and I’m famously lazy but please stand by and above all don't hammer me.

    Also please talk to me I'm lonely and I like to talk.
    What do you think are the most likely wolf teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2758)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2757)
    I’m currently in the unique position of being the only one who knows I’m town, which means I actually have a potential perspective to find a wolf here. While being in the lowest PoE is an unnerving predicament, I’m sorry to break it to the wolves that I’m never in better form than when I’m being pushed and interacted with. Case me I dare you, all the cases on me suck right now or are non-existent there’s actually so many better ones because I haven’t played this game well so step up.

    Also all naked votes in this state of the game are awful, that was so last round get up wit’ the times. If you’re town your PoE has broken down upon itself, and you should already realize that at least one player’s slipped past you into your town-reads so pay attention and don’t make pre-flip associations right now, and also post your reads please consisting of a what and a why except for you GGhana you can do your thing because it's a townie thing.

    It is time to re-evaluate what I think and why I think that especially about these players: (evakyoo, Lag, Twice) and everyone should be doing the same thing because I hate to break it to you but the round doesn’t end with a w!Vro flip but you should already know that realistically at least one of them’s a wolf. I’m still mid-process of gathering my reads and/or cases on them because it’s actually a lil’ difficult to do so and I’m famously lazy but please stand by and above all don't hammer me.

    Also please talk to me I'm lonely and I like to talk.
    What do you think are the most likely wolf teams?
    Twice/eva
    c4/eva
    Lag/eva

    in order of likeliness in my mind right now. c4 is from a tin-foil that ThePretender just forgot to check N1 or that we're drastically misreading something but frankly I doubt it. In all cases from my perspective we find a wolf in eva but again I'm working on why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2759)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2758)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2757)
    I’m currently in the unique position of being the only one who knows I’m town, which means I actually have a potential perspective to find a wolf here. While being in the lowest PoE is an unnerving predicament, I’m sorry to break it to the wolves that I’m never in better form than when I’m being pushed and interacted with. Case me I dare you, all the cases on me suck right now or are non-existent there’s actually so many better ones because I haven’t played this game well so step up.

    Also all naked votes in this state of the game are awful, that was so last round get up wit’ the times. If you’re town your PoE has broken down upon itself, and you should already realize that at least one player’s slipped past you into your town-reads so pay attention and don’t make pre-flip associations right now, and also post your reads please consisting of a what and a why except for you GGhana you can do your thing because it's a townie thing.

    It is time to re-evaluate what I think and why I think that especially about these players: (evakyoo, Lag, Twice) and everyone should be doing the same thing because I hate to break it to you but the round doesn’t end with a w!Vro flip but you should already know that realistically at least one of them’s a wolf. I’m still mid-process of gathering my reads and/or cases on them because it’s actually a lil’ difficult to do so and I’m famously lazy but please stand by and above all don't hammer me.

    Also please talk to me I'm lonely and I like to talk.
    What do you think are the most likely wolf teams?
    Twice/eva
    c4/eva
    Lag/eva

    in order of likeliness in my mind right now. c4 is from a tin-foil that ThePretender just forgot to check N1 or that we're drastically misreading something but frankly I doubt it. In all cases from my perspective we find a wolf in eva but again I'm working on why.
    Why are you so confident on eva in particular?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2760)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2759)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2758)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2757)
    I’m currently in the unique position of being the only one who knows I’m town, which means I actually have a potential perspective to find a wolf here. While being in the lowest PoE is an unnerving predicament, I’m sorry to break it to the wolves that I’m never in better form than when I’m being pushed and interacted with. Case me I dare you, all the cases on me suck right now or are non-existent there’s actually so many better ones because I haven’t played this game well so step up.

    Also all naked votes in this state of the game are awful, that was so last round get up wit’ the times. If you’re town your PoE has broken down upon itself, and you should already realize that at least one player’s slipped past you into your town-reads so pay attention and don’t make pre-flip associations right now, and also post your reads please consisting of a what and a why except for you GGhana you can do your thing because it's a townie thing.

    It is time to re-evaluate what I think and why I think that especially about these players: (evakyoo, Lag, Twice) and everyone should be doing the same thing because I hate to break it to you but the round doesn’t end with a w!Vro flip but you should already know that realistically at least one of them’s a wolf. I’m still mid-process of gathering my reads and/or cases on them because it’s actually a lil’ difficult to do so and I’m famously lazy but please stand by and above all don't hammer me.

    Also please talk to me I'm lonely and I like to talk.
    What do you think are the most likely wolf teams?
    Twice/eva
    c4/eva
    Lag/eva

    in order of likeliness in my mind right now. c4 is from a tin-foil that ThePretender just forgot to check N1 or that we're drastically misreading something but frankly I doubt it. In all cases from my perspective we find a wolf in eva but again I'm working on why.
    Why are you so confident on eva in particular?
    Because she realistically works best as the partner in any wolf team I can imagine. Anything otherwise just feels wrong right now.

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    I'm also totally open to reading her through and coming away with a near-certainty that she's town I'm not gonna tunnel here, but from an overview I find that more unlikely than that she's just a wolf. If GGhana's a wolf we've probably already lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2756)
    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#2754)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2749)
    Quote Originally Posted by GGhana (#2748)
    not saying anything until my bomb goes off
    ok

    @c4e5g3d5

    What do you think of eva?
    On posts, super pure, towny conviction throughout
    Don't know wtf her D3 was, spending all her time focused on two slots that weren't Aldo and then hammering Aldo
    Still think she's probably just town
    What do you think the scum team is then?
    It's lazy but Twice Vro. I think everyone else is townier, and I think either of them flipping red makes the other more likely to flip red with their approaches to D3; I think both of them, if either flips red, played like there were stakes yesterday, while being afraid to admit it, which makes me think neither of them would have super deep partners.

    Of course the fact that we ploughed through three wrong easy answers and would've ploughed through a fourth if it didn't claim vig doesn't exactly boost my confidence. I'm gonna try to take it one vote at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2761)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2760)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2759)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2758)
    What do you think are the most likely wolf teams?
    Twice/eva
    c4/eva
    Lag/eva

    in order of likeliness in my mind right now. c4 is from a tin-foil that ThePretender just forgot to check N1 or that we're drastically misreading something but frankly I doubt it. In all cases from my perspective we find a wolf in eva but again I'm working on why.
    Why are you so confident on eva in particular?
    Because she realistically works best as the partner in any wolf team I can imagine. Anything otherwise just feels wrong right now.
    The Twice/eva and Me/eva teams make zero sense. I will explain why later. Who do you replace those teams with in your top 3?

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    ##Vote Twice Shrunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#2766)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2764)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2761)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2760)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2759)
    Twice/eva
    c4/eva
    Lag/eva

    in order of likeliness in my mind right now. c4 is from a tin-foil that ThePretender just forgot to check N1 or that we're drastically misreading something but frankly I doubt it. In all cases from my perspective we find a wolf in eva but again I'm working on why.
    Why are you so confident on eva in particular?
    Because she realistically works best as the partner in any wolf team I can imagine. Anything otherwise just feels wrong right now.
    The Twice/eva and Me/eva teams make zero sense. I will explain why later. Who do you replace those teams with in your top 3?
    Please do, help would be nice.
    After some thought, GGhana/Lag and c4/Twice I suppose, though it feels rather tongue-in-cheek to have that as my response to you. I'd have a hard time reconciling GGhana as wolf right now though. As long as Venti's not counter-claimed he's not going in my guesses.

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    Ftr if your explanations don't make sense to me Lag I feel completely free to pick them right back up ty.

    @Lag I want to know why you think asking me which teams I think are most likely will help you solve this game.

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    Because tbh I know those questions were probably a trap and it could just as easily be a trap to get me voted off from booing my reasoning down as you trying to solve the game so please explain what exactly you hoped to accomplish through those questions and what you did end up accomplishing from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2770)
    Because tbh I know those questions were probably a trap and it could just as easily be a trap to get me voted off from booing my reasoning down as you trying to solve the game so please explain what exactly you hoped to accomplish through those questions and what you did end up accomplishing from them.
    If you're town then what traps do you have to fear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2771)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2770)
    Because tbh I know those questions were probably a trap and it could just as easily be a trap to get me voted off from booing my reasoning down as you trying to solve the game so please explain what exactly you hoped to accomplish through those questions and what you did end up accomplishing from them.
    If you're town then what traps do you have to fear?
    A trap from a wolf trying to shout down a town to assert themselves on top of the thread. A trap from a well-meaning town who's results are misread and then backfires horribly. Also pretty please answer my question.

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    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow

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    oh no i hammered a player everyone was going to vote out and now im in poe??
    ridiculous. you literally all have been so wrong this whole game and no one listens to me and now you chose to poe me
    be wrong again idc
    sucks to suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    That's an awful reason to hammer if you genuinely think someone is town then you shouldn't vote them and if you do you should really explain in the moment and Javelin died because they were in the lower PoE and GGhana said to shoot her over me and now I'm having a hard time but you're looking suspicious to me so please update me on who you think a wolf is ty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    Who do you think wolf team is?

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    vro is town too y'all are delusional

    ##Vote Lag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2775)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    That's an awful reason to hammer if you genuinely think someone is town then you shouldn't vote them and if you do you should really explain in the moment and Javelin died because they were in the lower PoE and GGhana said to shoot her over me and now I'm having a hard time but you're looking suspicious to me so please update me on who you think a wolf is ty.
    okay and would i do that as a wolf

    MICHELLE LEGIT IGNORED JAVELINS FIRST POST WHEN SHE POSTED WHEN SHE WAS ONLINE A WOLF PARTNER WOULD NOT HAVE PUT A WOLF PARTNER THERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2776)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    Who do you think wolf team is?
    you so smd

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2779)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2776)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    Who do you think wolf team is?
    you so smd
    I'm both wolves? Who do you think my teammate would be?

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    lag/gghana here is possible btw

    still confident in my towns

    we know venti/c4 clear here anyways

    so its just between vro/lag/gghana/twice

    1/2 ez

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    There are 4 possible scum teams:

    In no particular order:
    C4 + GGhana
    GGhana + Eva
    C4 + Eva
    Twice + Vro

    I find it very unlikely that a Twice + C4/GGhana team exists due to those two coming into this day looking to apply pressure to Twice.

    Venti is un-CC'd bg

    And something that I think is very telling is eva's vote #1254

    The only time a wolf~eva ever makes that vote to push Michelle so close to going over right at EoD is if the other wolf is already on Michelle's wagon. It makes no sense to join the Michelle wagon otherwise since it would be killing one teammate and leaving the other out to dry.

    That makes eva+twice or eva+vro teams very, very unlikely.

    A similar argument can be made with how GGhana and C4 pushed Michelle on day 1 and were on that wagon at EoD. It is rather unlikely that they would do that while leaving a teammate on the Apoc wagon, making a C4 + Vro and a C4 + GGhana team also unlikely.

    That leaves only the 4 teams I listed.

    Of note is that either we just win here if Vro or Twice flips mafia since that incriminates the other.
    OR
    We flip one and the other is lock town and then at least we go in to a final 5 with two locked towns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2780)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2779)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2776)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    Who do you think wolf team is?
    you so smd
    I'm both wolves? Who do you think my teammate would be?
    yep ur both of it
    quit trying to look productive :yawn:

    ive already answered these questions before.

    I LEGIT STATED MY POE AND TOWNCORE YESTERDAY IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2778)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2775)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    That's an awful reason to hammer if you genuinely think someone is town then you shouldn't vote them and if you do you should really explain in the moment and Javelin died because they were in the lower PoE and GGhana said to shoot her over me and now I'm having a hard time but you're looking suspicious to me so please update me on who you think a wolf is ty.
    okay and would i do that as a wolf

    MICHELLE LEGIT IGNORED JAVELINS FIRST POST WHEN SHE POSTED WHEN SHE WAS ONLINE A WOLF PARTNER WOULD NOT HAVE PUT A WOLF PARTNER THERE
    My tin-foil was that you'd say you wouldn't do that as a wolf in defense tbh because I've seen that work before.

    I still don't really get your defense of Javelin ngl I don't understand why a wolf would never do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2772)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2771)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2770)
    Because tbh I know those questions were probably a trap and it could just as easily be a trap to get me voted off from booing my reasoning down as you trying to solve the game so please explain what exactly you hoped to accomplish through those questions and what you did end up accomplishing from them.
    If you're town then what traps do you have to fear?
    A trap from a wolf trying to shout down a town to assert themselves on top of the thread. A trap from a well-meaning town who's results are misread and then backfires horribly. Also pretty please answer my question.
    If Twice is town then you're actually just lock-town IMO, was trying to gauge how you felt about Twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2784)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2778)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2775)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2773)
    twice pinged me to hammer

    also

    WHY DID JAVELIN DIE??

    I LITERALLY SAID ALDO AND JAVELIN TOWN

    tbh i hammered knowing it was town becuase i doubt yall would have re-evaluated

    only people ive been wrong on are the prs and apogee,, the prs did well at masking themselves

    also lol thought this started tomorrow
    That's an awful reason to hammer if you genuinely think someone is town then you shouldn't vote them and if you do you should really explain in the moment and Javelin died because they were in the lower PoE and GGhana said to shoot her over me and now I'm having a hard time but you're looking suspicious to me so please update me on who you think a wolf is ty.
    okay and would i do that as a wolf

    MICHELLE LEGIT IGNORED JAVELINS FIRST POST WHEN SHE POSTED WHEN SHE WAS ONLINE A WOLF PARTNER WOULD NOT HAVE PUT A WOLF PARTNER THERE
    My tin-foil was that you'd say you wouldn't do that as a wolf in defense tbh because I've seen that work before.

    I still don't really get your defense of Javelin ngl I don't understand why a wolf would never do that.
    ....
    i said this about misty and no one listened so i wouldnt expect you to understand? everyone picks at my solving yet they're always wrong and im always right

    and how else am i supposed to defend it lmao townies are dumb, wolves are more like "i must play exactly by the rules"

    and as a wolf you want to distance yourself from other wolves somehow hense you would reply to their shot

    not sure why you werent shot but whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2785)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2772)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2771)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2770)
    Because tbh I know those questions were probably a trap and it could just as easily be a trap to get me voted off from booing my reasoning down as you trying to solve the game so please explain what exactly you hoped to accomplish through those questions and what you did end up accomplishing from them.
    If you're town then what traps do you have to fear?
    A trap from a wolf trying to shout down a town to assert themselves on top of the thread. A trap from a well-meaning town who's results are misread and then backfires horribly. Also pretty please answer my question.
    If Twice is town then you're actually just lock-town IMO, was trying to gauge how you felt about Twice
    looks like someone is trying to suck up to vro
    perhaps tmi that twice is town,, and trying to tmi a wolf partner as town
    perhaps i am being close minded here

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2783)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2780)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2779)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2776)
    Who do you think wolf team is?
    you so smd
    I'm both wolves? Who do you think my teammate would be?
    yep ur both of it
    quit trying to look productive :yawn:

    ive already answered these questions before.

    I LEGIT STATED MY POE AND TOWNCORE YESTERDAY IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS
    Re-summarizing ones stances helps keep the information fresh in peoples minds, telling someone to dig through an ISO for it is not helpful, thanks for answering though

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    anyways
    isnt it odd that no one has tried to defend vro except for twice
    and they have consistently been in the poe
    i genuinely think you are town, but struggling

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2787)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2785)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2772)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2771)
    If you're town then what traps do you have to fear?
    A trap from a wolf trying to shout down a town to assert themselves on top of the thread. A trap from a well-meaning town who's results are misread and then backfires horribly. Also pretty please answer my question.
    If Twice is town then you're actually just lock-town IMO, was trying to gauge how you felt about Twice
    looks like someone is trying to suck up to vro
    perhaps tmi that twice is town,, and trying to tmi a wolf partner as town
    perhaps i am being close minded here
    This is an odd post to make which just reads like you're trying to apply shade, read #2782 and it's pretty obvious where my thoughts are

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    oh wow now im a hypocrite for what i said about vro LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2790)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2787)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2785)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2772)
    A trap from a wolf trying to shout down a town to assert themselves on top of the thread. A trap from a well-meaning town who's results are misread and then backfires horribly. Also pretty please answer my question.
    If Twice is town then you're actually just lock-town IMO, was trying to gauge how you felt about Twice
    looks like someone is trying to suck up to vro
    perhaps tmi that twice is town,, and trying to tmi a wolf partner as town
    perhaps i am being close minded here
    This is an odd post to make which just reads like you're trying to apply shade, read #2782 and it's pretty obvious where my thoughts are
    i actually havent read a lot of the posts
    i had no time to play yesterday and havent caught up

    so nah, not readign that rn
    gonna take yet another break as i just keep tilting when i come onto here

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    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2792)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2790)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2787)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2785)
    If Twice is town then you're actually just lock-town IMO, was trying to gauge how you felt about Twice
    looks like someone is trying to suck up to vro
    perhaps tmi that twice is town,, and trying to tmi a wolf partner as town
    perhaps i am being close minded here
    This is an odd post to make which just reads like you're trying to apply shade, read #2782 and it's pretty obvious where my thoughts are
    i actually havent read a lot of the posts
    i had no time to play yesterday and havent caught up

    so nah, not readign that rn
    gonna take yet another break as i just keep tilting when i come onto here
    It was literally right between like two posts you responded to lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2782)
    There are 4 possible scum teams:

    In no particular order:
    C4 + GGhana
    GGhana + Eva
    C4 + Eva
    Twice + Vro

    I find it very unlikely that a Twice + C4/GGhana team exists due to those two coming into this day looking to apply pressure to Twice.

    Venti is un-CC'd bg

    And something that I think is very telling is eva's vote #1254

    The only time a wolf~eva ever makes that vote to push Michelle so close to going over right at EoD is if the other wolf is already on Michelle's wagon. It makes no sense to join the Michelle wagon otherwise since it would be killing one teammate and leaving the other out to dry.

    That makes eva+twice or eva+vro teams very, very unlikely.

    A similar argument can be made with how GGhana and C4 pushed Michelle on day 1 and were on that wagon at EoD. It is rather unlikely that they would do that while leaving a teammate on the Apoc wagon, making a C4 + Vro and a C4 + GGhana team also unlikely.

    That leaves only the 4 teams I listed.

    Of note is that either we just win here if Vro or Twice flips mafia since that incriminates the other.
    OR
    We flip one and the other is lock town and then at least we go in to a final 5 with two locked towns.
    What's gone wrong with our town-GGhana read in a w!GGhana world? In retrospect does the GGhana/Michelle fiasco look fabricated to you and why?

    What's gone wrong with our town-read on c4 in a w!c4 world? Who else would ThePretender have likely checked?

    These are questions I would definitely like to know your answers to at some point, you don't have to answer them both at the same time.

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    Also, I think the c4 clear is not actually that concrete. I see Twice/Vro almost always being T/T or W/W, almost never W/T, and sometimes, but not very often T/W.

    So if Vro flips wolf, then great we win. No need to worry.

    But preparing only for the best is just asking for the worst, if Vro flips town then I don't see Twice ever flipping wolf, which means there are two wolves out of GGhana, C4, Eva.

    Looking at Pretender's ISO he specifically marks Apogee as his "paranoid read" which reads much more like his signal for who he's going to check than rather than anything else.

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    ##Vote c4e5g3d5

    I'd like to apply pressure here right now and see what happens. c4 you are accused of being a wolf and slanking your way to victory how do you plead. Also your brick post doesn't clear you btw sorry Twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2794)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2782)
    There are 4 possible scum teams:

    In no particular order:
    C4 + GGhana
    GGhana + Eva
    C4 + Eva
    Twice + Vro

    I find it very unlikely that a Twice + C4/GGhana team exists due to those two coming into this day looking to apply pressure to Twice.

    Venti is un-CC'd bg

    And something that I think is very telling is eva's vote #1254

    The only time a wolf~eva ever makes that vote to push Michelle so close to going over right at EoD is if the other wolf is already on Michelle's wagon. It makes no sense to join the Michelle wagon otherwise since it would be killing one teammate and leaving the other out to dry.

    That makes eva+twice or eva+vro teams very, very unlikely.

    A similar argument can be made with how GGhana and C4 pushed Michelle on day 1 and were on that wagon at EoD. It is rather unlikely that they would do that while leaving a teammate on the Apoc wagon, making a C4 + Vro and a C4 + GGhana team also unlikely.

    That leaves only the 4 teams I listed.

    Of note is that either we just win here if Vro or Twice flips mafia since that incriminates the other.
    OR
    We flip one and the other is lock town and then at least we go in to a final 5 with two locked towns.
    What's gone wrong with our town-GGhana read in a w!GGhana world? In retrospect does the GGhana/Michelle fiasco look fabricated to you and why?

    What's gone wrong with our town-read on c4 in a w!c4 world? Who else would ThePretender have likely checked?

    These are questions I would definitely like to know your answers to at some point, you don't have to answer them both at the same time.
    That's exactly the questions you should be asking yourself and trying to find answers for because like, if you're town, then you know one of those slots hell-bussed Michelle.

    For the check, I think apogee makes sense as I explained earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2797)
    That's exactly the questions you should be asking yourself and trying to find answers for because like, if you're town, then you know one of those slots hell-bussed Michelle.

    For the check, I think apogee makes sense as I explained earlier.
    Yes I know, I just want to figure you out in real-time since you're here and your answer to either of those questions will help me. I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroendal (#2798)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2797)
    That's exactly the questions you should be asking yourself and trying to find answers for because like, if you're town, then you know one of those slots hell-bussed Michelle.

    For the check, I think apogee makes sense as I explained earlier.
    Yes I know, I just want to figure you out in real-time since you're here and your answer to either of those questions will help me. I see.
    I mean, I think you + Twice pairing still has by far the most wolf-equity in the game. Which is why I'm just voting one of you two today.

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    Alright, I'm back and I've cooled my head!

    I do not have the greatest amount of time to solve this game.
    So, I request that we collab our efforts. I cannot realistically do what I want to do.

    @Venti @c4e5g3d5 Could you help look into GGhana, Twice, Vro, Lag, and perhaps myself?
    I would prefer it if Venti looked into Twice (as we legit just played a game together), and if c4 looked into Lag (as Venti already scumreads Lag)

    1/2 chance of hitting scum out of that list feels... nice? Venti dies tonight though, which sucks.
    If we mis-elim, we have to hit two wolves in a row. :|

    I'll look into my unfinished Michelle interactions for now. I really should have done it earlier - I only did it for Aldo/Jave (because it was easy...)

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