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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2552)
    Actually was thinking about it. Wisdom as the backup could be a thing still depending on the order of night actions. If the RB goes before a backup then shouldn't technically the backup still happen? Don't know how they can backup and Atilla use a shot. Doesn't seem kosher
    Backup happened at end of the day when the poisoner died. the RB happened before any visiting actions by others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2604)
    I just saw the flip and haven’t read anything else yet but I need to do this since I failed.

    I RETRACT MY CLAIM

    (Btw HUZZAH I WAS RIGHT ON SWOWL MY WORK HERE IS DONE)

    I expected to die tonight, especially considering how HF talked about me getting shot, so the cover didn’t work. If it wasn’t obvious, I tried to shut HF down or at least discredit him. What I said in p#1288 was a lie, I’ve never seen him fake claim to get the real PR to target his wolf reads, I just tried to keep him from getting shot.

    Outside of that, I haven’t thought much about this game (and I won’t be online too much today due to midsummer) since I was focused on https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...77#post6088177. That game was the reason I wrote the “If I got a penny for every time I get lackluster” because that’s something I got pushed on through all that game as well.

    Readswise, I’ve mostly been thinking about Dale. I’m pretty sure I know who he* is and we have a history together. The way he pushed me is matching his town game and I think he’d still try to pocket me if wolf even though he’s playing on an alt. I have a small tinfoil because I don’t know many others in this game that knows I’d do a hard PR claim as VT, but I still think Dale is Town. I also think Escape from los Angeles is town.

    I get that I’m the expected yeet today and I’m sorry about that but considering how it felt like I was going to die yesterday it feels like a fair tradeoff with the poisoner. I’m still going to try to solve as much as I can today so if you still decide to yeet me when the day is over, please don’t ignore my reads.

    Time to answer pings then I have to go pack my bags.
    bruh. ofc she katze'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Ankles (#2635)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorros (#2500)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorros (#2475)
    Ok, so the remaining two scum will be in {Schweppes, Nanook, Dyslexicon, Vivax}.
    And add evakyoo to this because she should have known better about Swowl after playing with me.
    Could you expand upon this?
    If you read my first two scum rands on this site, I got continuously miscleared for being "pure". I wolfed with evakyoo in Marble League Mafia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swowl (#1585)
    Yeah idk what to say here.
    I am not a PR, but I’m also not skum.
    I think Wiz came in way too early out of the blue with that PR claim for it to be real so yeah was there before and I’m probably sticking there.
    Self prez etc etc for other people isn’t really relevant because wisdom is the best choice
    This is the one single post in the entirety of Swowl's iso that the argument hinges around, and at the time of this post, the wagons were:

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    Retrospective Day 1 Votecount as of Post #1585

    Post #1585 was originally posted at 2:04 PM EDT on Wednesday, June 22nd, 2022.

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    6 Swowl Wisdom (71), Dyslexicon (121), matt (167), in controL (83), aphelios (19), Dale (170)
    2 Schweppes Holyflare (76), Vivax (66)
    2 Wisdom Escape from Los Angeles (42), Swowl (24)
    2 Vivax Vorros (44), Arctic (62)
    2 Vorros Illwei (178), Cat Ankles (56)
    1 Cat Ankles evakyoo (79)
    1 aphelios NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (138)
    1 evakyoo Schweppes (138)

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    Requested by Schweppes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2904)
    Self prez etc etc for other people isn’t really relevant because wisdom is the best choice
    [/QUOTE]

    I suppose I missed this part of the post.
    But

    at this point of time, its 6hr before EoD, Swowl's screwed, prolly in antispew tbh, cuz i didnt realize how bleak it looked

    I dont understand why our prior is to assume that Swowl had TMI rather than the confidence being faked, or that the entire thing is some $%#!ty antispew garbage that we shouldnt be reading into in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#2282)
    Soda Mafia: Venom n Guns Setup! Day 1 Final Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    9 Swowl Wisdom (71), in controL (139), Dale (226), matt (242), Cat Ankles (72), Vivax (85), Dyslexicon (240), Illwei (246), evakyoo (151)
    3 evakyoo Schweppes (210), NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (187), Swowl (41)
    2 Schweppes Holyflare (76), aphelios (21)
    2 NANOOKTHECONQUEROR Vorros (53), Arctic (102)
    1 Wisdom Escape from Los Angeles (42)


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    Swowl was eliminated. They were: Mafia Poisoner.
    Role PM for Soda Mafia: Venom n Guns Setup!

    You are Mafia Poisoner. You win when you overpower the Town and are the only evil faction remaining.

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Poisoner

    As Mafia Poisoner, you have access to the Poison and Fake Poison Night Actions. Players you target with this action will have their poisoned status announced at the beginning of the following Day. Poisoned players will die if they are not healed by the end of the Day, but Fake Poisoned players will survive either way.

    Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.


    Day 1 has ended.

    Day 1 ended at 8:00 PM EDT on Wednesday, June 22nd, 2022.
    So in the votes who bussed?

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    Wisdom gets anti-spewed & votes for extra credit I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2908)
    Wisdom gets anti-spewed & votes for extra credit I think.
    Hmm maybe.

    Idk how to do retrospective VCs to see who voted later into EOD.

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    I think at least a wolf or two was there early

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt (#2894)
    To bring up a point I made earlier

    Wisdom did her hail Mary and dipped out of the thread.

    Owl was still self pressing on Wisdom.

    Wisdom did absolutely nothing after her claim and I feel like she was actually trying to die while doing 3 things:

    1. Potentially fishing out other prs
    2. Rolling over for wolf poisoner
    3. Spewing said wolf poisoner v
    I guess Im just going to categorically disagree on the second point, I dont understand how one can look at wisdom's actions and say, yeah they're trying to suicide to bait prs.
    you cant bait prs with a claim that cant be cc'ed. (Both N2 and JK were viable)
    for that matter it was lazy $%#! on my part to assume that it was self-resolving, it obv wasnt in hindsight oops, thats prolly def partly my fault, because it also just isnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2911)
    Quote Originally Posted by matt (#2894)
    To bring up a point I made earlier

    Wisdom did her hail Mary and dipped out of the thread.

    Owl was still self pressing on Wisdom.

    Wisdom did absolutely nothing after her claim and I feel like she was actually trying to die while doing 3 things:

    1. Potentially fishing out other prs
    2. Rolling over for wolf poisoner
    3. Spewing said wolf poisoner v
    I guess Im just going to categorically disagree on the second point, I dont understand how one can look at wisdom's actions and say, yeah they're trying to suicide to bait prs.
    you cant bait prs with a claim that cant be cc'ed. (Both N2 and JK were viable)
    for that matter it was lazy $%#! on my part to assume that it was self-resolving, it obv wasnt in hindsight oops, thats prolly def partly my fault, because it also just isnt
    and for that matter i lost the plot of my own post lmao
    what i was gonna say that in the first place, that did not look like wisdom trying to suicide

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    Also Wisdom has been sitting at L-2 for hours now. Are the wolf's already on the wagon or is this a potential miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2913)
    Also Wisdom has been sitting at L-2 for hours now. Are the wolf's already on the wagon or is this a potential miss.
    The wolves are off it, I thought earlier

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    Yep the wolves are still off it, but what crazy wolf hammers that crap when you can just sit and look pretty ignoring the thread instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2915)
    Yep the wolves are still off it, but what crazy wolf hammers that crap when you can just sit and look pretty ignoring the thread instead.
    Fair enough point. Any hammers now from anyone in the POE is essentially outting.

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    I have 20 mins, any good new posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2907)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#2282)
    Soda Mafia: Venom n Guns Setup! Day 1 Final Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    9 Swowl Wisdom (71), in controL (139), Dale (226), matt (242), Cat Ankles (72), Vivax (85), Dyslexicon (240), Illwei (246), evakyoo (151)
    3 evakyoo Schweppes (210), NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (187), Swowl (41)
    2 Schweppes Holyflare (76), aphelios (21)
    2 NANOOKTHECONQUEROR Vorros (53), Arctic (102)
    1 Wisdom Escape from Los Angeles (42)


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    Swowl was eliminated. They were: Mafia Poisoner.
    Role PM for Soda Mafia: Venom n Guns Setup!

    You are Mafia Poisoner. You win when you overpower the Town and are the only evil faction remaining.

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Poisoner

    As Mafia Poisoner, you have access to the Poison and Fake Poison Night Actions. Players you target with this action will have their poisoned status announced at the beginning of the following Day. Poisoned players will die if they are not healed by the end of the Day, but Fake Poisoned players will survive either way.

    Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.


    Day 1 has ended.

    Day 1 ended at 8:00 PM EDT on Wednesday, June 22nd, 2022.
    So in the votes who bussed?
    Gotta be Wisdom and Cankles if anyone in my op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt (#2852)
    All of this is unsorted and unordered but

    Town:
    Vivax
    Dale
    Escape
    Schweppes (his iso just feels villagery af but I don't rly mind the scrutiny here)
    Vorros

    Could be a deep wolf, but more town than not:
    Inc
    Dizzy
    Arctic

    PoE:
    Nanook
    Eva
    Aphelios
    Cat
    Wisdom

    Poe feels kinda meh and I feel someone in the deep wolf category could be it, but I'm moderately confident my town pile is all town
    @matt What changes here if Wisdom is green in your opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Ankles (#2767)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2764)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Ankles (#2763)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2762)
    Thinking I'm going for a swim in the pool before work. It's so dang hot. Be back soon.
    Hot in New York?
    Damn
    Hot enough. I left the south to get away from this lol. Was 97 the other day.
    Ah, I feel that.
    I left the south and moved to Seattle.
    Loved it.
    It was too expensive, though, so I moved some place cheap enough, because I was on the verge of homelessness.
    So I ended up in Phoenix, which was at the time, cheap.
    It will be 107F today.
    I plan on moving further north this year. Much further north.
    I got heat stroke from like 30 minutes of exposure a couple summers ago.
    I was not built for heat.
    I spent a couple years in Portland, and loved it. Especially since the snow wasn't east-coast intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2777)
    And whoever's vig should be policy hanged.
    soda is openwolfing pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2792)
    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#2789)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2788)
    Its not in w!Wisdom's interest to claim PR there, like at all.

    v!Wisdom also has a history of faking PRs and telling everyone to vote them, its ... ridiculously annoying.
    It even more isn't in v!Wisdom's interest by any metric whatsoever, so I don't understand. It even got our JK outed.
    It would never have gotten our JK outed if Vorros wasn't being terrible at mechplay.
    Wisdom miscalculated, they thought they would be NKed, but they thought wrong obviously.
    i mean...

    FPS $%#!s up mechplay in general, so you can't really blame me for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2808)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2807)
    I was going to say something about posting more, but then I remembered that no one is incentivized to rn except for @matt who is unfortunately not here.
    Kinda disappointed Matt chose not to be here with as many people clearing them town from the poison.
    he was town off of the swowl flip regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorros (#2923)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2808)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2807)
    I was going to say something about posting more, but then I remembered that no one is incentivized to rn except for @matt who is unfortunately not here.
    Kinda disappointed Matt chose not to be here with as many people clearing them town from the poison.
    he was town off of the swowl flip regardless.
    I don't put stock on that flip. No one gets clearance from that flip but again Matt was poisoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt (#2855)
    Arctic could be a wolf due to that mess early d1 with him, Illwei, Schweppes, and Vorros. I would be somewhat shocked if all 4 were town.
    Duh. Soda is mafia.

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    I also want to tinfoil that Wisdom was going to hardclaim something to draw out a cc, but soda let her know in scumchat that it wouldn't work since I JK'd her. Now that she's retracted, soda is pushing the "Vorros is a dumbass" angle to convince people that I didn't just catch a wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorros (#2926)
    I also want to tinfoil that Wisdom was going to hardclaim something to draw out a cc, but soda let her know in scumchat that it wouldn't work since I JK'd her. Now that she's retracted, soda is pushing the "Vorros is a dumbass" angle to convince people that I didn't just catch a wolf.
    Lol? They claimed yesterday already. What is this post.

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    Did Vorros just ... catchup?
    Or smth.
    Sorry I couldnt tell.
    It seems awfully ... missing of certain things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2928)
    Did Vorros just ... catchup?
    Or smth.
    Sorry I couldnt tell.
    It seems awfully ... missing of certain things.
    Well if he's the ketchup, you're the toast.

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    Goes well with ferret roast

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    So, things that dont go well together, got it.


    I mean typically we go swell together.

    Ferret roast I don't know, is that type of thing normal in Austria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2931)
    So, things that dont go well together, got it.


    I mean typically we go swell together.

    Ferret roast I don't know, is that type of thing normal in Austria?
    No, but you can add sugo to the aubergines.

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    Vivax's last few posts makes me want to resist the urge to blast them into the shadow realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivax (#2932)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2931)
    So, things that dont go well together, got it.


    I mean typically we go swell together.

    Ferret roast I don't know, is that type of thing normal in Austria?
    No, but you can add sugo to the aubergines.
    I will not thank you, like my porchetta with just fennel.

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    May I suggest dormouse roast, Mr. Schweppes. That's more fitting for men of certain professions, as google can reveal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2933)
    Vivax's last few posts makes me want to resist the urge to blast them into the shadow realm.
    How would a Wisdom green flip affect that urge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivax (#2935)
    May I suggest dormouse roast, Mr. Schweppes. That's more fitting for men of certain professions, as google can reveal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2933)
    Vivax's last few posts makes me want to resist the urge to blast them into the shadow realm.
    How would a Wisdom green flip affect that urge?
    I think your last few posts have been pretty awful so take a guess.

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    Like a good portion of this game seems to consist of probably towny people just saying really scummy $%#!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2936)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivax (#2935)
    May I suggest dormouse roast, Mr. Schweppes. That's more fitting for men of certain professions, as google can reveal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2933)
    Vivax's last few posts makes me want to resist the urge to blast them into the shadow realm.
    How would a Wisdom green flip affect that urge?
    I think your last few posts have been pretty awful so take a guess.
    The posts you think are awful are that way because you lack a piece of the puzzle. Schweppes and Nanook were in my opinion (maybe not solely) responsible for something that can be discussed at another time.

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    In other words, the fortune cookies were right.

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    Insane rambling 399:
    After the tantrum, Fate has sent me a blog on TL from some other user there to reassure me that my actions were not borne from ill intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivax (#2940)
    Insane rambling 399:
    After the tantrum, Fate has sent me a blog on TL from some other user there to reassure me that my actions were not borne from ill intent.
    Uh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2941)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivax (#2940)
    Insane rambling 399:
    After the tantrum, Fate has sent me a blog on TL from some other user there to reassure me that my actions were not borne from ill intent.
    Uh....
    The blog section is public and I'm not affiliated with that user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic (#2882)
    yeah i'm actually struggling with this

    wisdom claiming there just makes swowl more likely to die so the suicide theory doesn't really work. because that just gets swowl killed and then themselves killed when they have to "un CC" at some point in the future

    and if she were suiciding i feel like she would claim a specific role also to get the actual PR to out, she clearly wanted to live there by not claiming a specific role

    but why did she claim there as town when she wasn't the top wagon and there were still several hours left
    This is what I've been saying lol


    Bolded: to try and draw the nk without outing an actual pr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Escape from Los Angeles (#2890)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#2845)
    Dale going full republican this game
    Explain? I literally am a republican, how does that affect mafia?
    Victim/persecution complex, notable lack of a need to ground what he says in reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt (#2892)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2887)
    No no no
    this is straight up a bunch of BS

    BS
    absolute god-forsaking BS.

    convince me that the w!Wisdom argument doesnt just boil down to "Wisdom fakeclaimed hahah"

    and @matt here is telling me with a straight face that "Wisdom is w, because w!Swowl said they're w, so they must be w, shrugzies"
    The issue is that Wisdom claimed pr

    Mafia has no reason to assume town is lying about a PR claim.

    The conviction that owl had behind wisdom being a wolf was just way too confident given that she was a pr claim and was self resolvable.

    In fact, none of his other pushes even had any meat to them. He pushed people that voted Vivax and voted you, but didn't push anyone on those votes directly. Just the wagons as a whole. He also self pres'd on Eva while she was literally defending his life and gave absolutely no rhyme or reason behind it.

    The moral of the story is that owl was not confident in anything to push except for a pr claim. I just really felt he was in the know she was lying because they share a mafia chat together.
    ...Mafia can just push a pr claim they think is real, yeah? Particularly a mafia likely going over?

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    Daddyship ended with Dale, Schweppes is my new daddy

    ##Vote evakyoo

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    Soda Mafia: Venom n Guns Setup! Day 2 Votecount

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    5 Wisdom Escape from Los Angeles (22), Vorros (41), Dale (123), Cat Ankles (22), matt (40)
    3 Arctic Wisdom (18), Vivax (55), in controL (66)
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    End day at majority is enabled. With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#2947)
    Soda Mafia: Venom n Guns Setup! Day 2 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    5 Wisdom Escape from Los Angeles (22), Vorros (41), Dale (123), Cat Ankles (22), matt (40)
    3 Arctic Wisdom (18), Vivax (55), in controL (66)
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    2 Not voting Arctic (28), evakyoo (0)

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    End day at majority is enabled. With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority.

    Day 2 ends at 8:00 PM EDT on Saturday, June 25th, 2022. There are 1656201660000 remaining.
    Lol the eva wagon.

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    Rodents need a training wheel, lest their training wheel becomes a spitroast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivax
    ##Vote evakyoo
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