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    Regardless of how this goes

    thank you all for giving me a really tough game

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    i have to go because $%#!ing hell i thought i had time today but i don't and i need to pack RIGHT NOW

    i'm so sorry axis if i'm wrong.
    if i came this close to finding you today and failed i'll beat myself up (this won't help but i'll feel like i deserve it)

    please don't be wrong
    ##Vote AXIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#6498)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#6484)
    2 of my towns on Axis. Me and Fext on Caps :/

    WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE A SPLIT...
    caps had this single towny post on my 1610 which fext gave a good reasoning for here P#6165

    so yea
    $%#! but... I mean ugh

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    It's taking everything I have in me not to consider swapping right now

    vote is on axis in spirit. WIll place it at 5 seconds left


    legacy is: come up with ur own reads. wolves never kill me tonight. wolves kill me tonight and I'll post a video cooking and eating my own shoe. you won't do it

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    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Day 3 Votecount

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    5 AXIS ThePretender (196), Wisp (186), supershorty (92), arogame123 (245), Ephemera (175)
    3 TheCapsFan Arete (172), Fext (201), Santygrass (138)
    2 Ephemera TheCapsFan (95), jmwjmw27 (99)
    1 jmwjmw27 AXIS (79)

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    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Day 3 Votecount

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    5 AXIS ThePretender (196), Wisp (186), supershorty (92), arogame123 (245), Ephemera (175)
    3 TheCapsFan Arete (172), Fext (201), Santygrass (138)
    2 Ephemera TheCapsFan (95), jmwjmw27 (99)
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    just kill Caps ffs

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    hope d1 case was right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fext (#6501)
    Regardless of how this goes

    thank you all for giving me a really tough game

    fr

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    this is an insult to villagers though lmfao

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    $%#! MAN

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    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Day 3 Votecount

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    5 AXIS ThePretender (198), Wisp (187), supershorty (92), arogame123 (246), Ephemera (175)
    3 TheCapsFan Arete (173), Fext (202), Santygrass (138)
    2 Ephemera TheCapsFan (95), jmwjmw27 (100)
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    ##Vote AXIS

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    « Day 3 Elimination: AXIS was Vanilla Town »
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    6 AXIS ThePretender (198), Wisp (187), supershorty (92), arogame123 (246), Ephemera (175), jmwjmw27 (101)
    3 TheCapsFan Arete (173), Fext (202), Santygrass (138)
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    AXIS was eliminated. They were: Vanilla Town.
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    « Night 3 Start »
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    Please submit your night actions below the thread.

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    Day 3


    Supershorty rubbed one of her bandages. That had been far too close. Several Shade-infested creatures had ambushed them today. Of course, it didn't help the gnawing anxiety.

    Nor did it stop the group from braking into loud argument. ThePretender and Arete snarled at each other, neither backing down. Wisp interjected occasionally as a few of the others started growling at one another.

    AXIS stood back, stubbornly.

    That was what doomed him, in the end. Several of the others were ill at ease, and saw his distance and disagreement as a sign of being touched.

    Before Sterling could pipe up to object, the others were on AXIS. The Bogsneak screeched and snarled, but six against one was a rather... hopeless fight.

    It wasn't until he went limp that Sterling was finally able to make themself heard. "Not Shade. Not the one."

    Maeve paced and snarled as the others turned wary eyes towards one another once more.
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    Night 3

    No one noticed quickly this time.

    Dawn broke. Kuraihi counted heads. And again. There was someone missing. He counted once more; it was Fext. So. Where was he?

    Nobody had seen him since last night, either. Everyone claimed to see nothing and hear nothing. Not even the one on guard, Sterling, had noticed.

    Great. They'd have to go find Fext.

    And it didn't take long. Once again, everyone smelled blood. Fext was motionless, his once-brilliant feathers dulled and stained. The blood was far from fresh.

    A chill ran down Kuraihi's back. He didn't recognise the claw marks as any of the local monsters.
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    « Night 3 Results: Fext was Vanilla Town »
    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Night 3 Results

    Fext has died. They were: Vanilla Town.
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    « Day 4 Start »
    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Day 4 Start

    Day 4 has begun.

    Living Players

    @Arete
    @arogame123
    @Ephemera
    @jmwjmw27
    @Santygrass
    @supershorty
    @TheCapsFan
    @ThePretender
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    alright, this is what I wrote overnight, didn't have time to do a lot so it's pretty short

    ##Vote TheCapsFan

    ----

    Okay so

    I think Caps is extremely likely to be a wolf based on how that EoD played out

    like the three people who ended on him are me + two of my top villagers in the entire game, if that was v/v I find it really hard to believe that zero wolves would've said 'actually I'm going to not stack on the villager who's already getting piled on, and instead vote the villa counterwagon that isn't about to flip and make us look bad'

    so the first thing I did was check people's rankings from the vote ranking thing we did against their actual votes, since the ranking thing was really close and the actual vote was less so

    This is all based on Jmw P#6330



    Fext - preferred Caps to Axis, voted Caps

    Arete - preferred Caps to Axis, voted Caps

    Santy - preferred Caps to Axis, voted Caps

    Pretender - preferred Axis to Caps, voted Axis

    Jmw - preferred Axis to Caps, voted Axis

    Shorty - preferred Axis to Caps, voted Axis

    Mera - preferred Axis to Caps, voted Axis

    Wisp - preferred Axis to Caps, voted Axis

    **** Arogame - preferred Caps to Axis, voted Axis

    I checked Aro's explanation and he said he switched because three of his towns were voting Axis and he didn't want to split votes (which is consistent with what he'd been saying previously) so he's not like outed or anything although it is a bit :eyes:



    So I didn't really find a smoking gun there or anything, in hindsight I think this is a /relatively/ less likely place to catch people out since many wolves are going to be uncomfortable blatantly contradicting themself in the span of like fifteen minutes.

    So next I went to check out whether everyone's list of four was consistent with what they'd said previously before EoD

    Among Axis voters:

    Pretender ranked Axis > Caps > jmw > Eph. He had a readlist in P#6040 where he ranked Caps below Axis, though both in the same tier (the other two are consistent with his readlist). @ThePretender -- what changed between that readlist and your ranking at EoD?

    Jmw ranked Eph > Axis > Caps > (jmw). He had a readlist in P#5951 where he ranked Caps below Axis in separate tiers (and Mera below both, which is consistent with his ranking). @jmwjmw27 -- same question, what changed?

    Shorty ranked AXIS > Caps > Eph > jmw. I skimmed her Iso and didn't see a readlist from yesterday and I'm kinda running out of time so I'm not going to look for Literally Everything Else She Said. She did sorta give an explanation in her ranking post.

    Mera ranked Jmw > Axis > Caps > (Eph). I skimmed and didn't see a readlist in their Iso but I do remember them specifically casing Axis near SoD yesterday so their vote is pretty consistent with that (honestly it's a little weird that they had Jmw as someone they wanted to vote more than that)

    Wisp ranked Axis > Caps > Jmw > Eph. He has a readlist in P#5577 but I think it's not sorted-within-tier since all the names are alphabetical -- assuming I'm right then he has Axis/Caps/Jmw all in one tier and Mera in another tier, so his readlist doesn't actively contradict his ranking, at the very least.

    Aro ranked Caps > Axis > Mera > Arete-as-a-write-in-candidate. He has a readlist in P#6066 which is basically consistent with this. I don't really expect asking him about his vote to be super useful since regardless of alignment he's just going to say he was following his towns, but if he has extra things he wants to add then cool.

    and I'm out of time so I don't have time to look at all the Caps voters

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    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Day 4 Votecount

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    1 TheCapsFan Arete (1)
    8 Not voting TheCapsFan (0), ThePretender (1), Wisp (0), supershorty (0), arogame123 (0), Santygrass (0), Ephemera (0), jmwjmw27 (0)

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    I wanted to ask, what was the idea behind the test vote on JMW again?
    also I'll preface this with day 1 was all town wagons, beautiful

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    I will not lie, I am kinda frozen. Night kill on obv-v Fext zz

    Ephemera maybe down half a notch but that's only cause she cased two townies almost back to back

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    I'm in a paranoid world right now where I was too quick to give aro a village lean and I don't like it here

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    Man ok, I don't really care if you guys believe this or not, but I actually teared up for a minute or two when Axis died. I had cased them why they are likely not mafia on day 2 and defended against certain pushes against them on day 3 and still voted them cause I went with my town... I was and am still sick to my stomache.

    I know I said I want to win this game in honor of those 3 people, but now more so I want to win this game for Axis man.

    With that being said, Shorty and Pret are top two town and I believed they are never mafia. I'll white knight them if I have to. Wisp and actually now Santy in leaning town. I realized that when looking over Santy's iso that he was a lot better than I had thought at the time and I can tell he was frustrated that no one was listening to him and felt people would ignore him.

    That being said, I am looking at Caps or Eph today.

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    ##Vote TheCapsFan

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    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#6529)
    Man ok, I don't really care if you guys believe this or not, but I actually teared up for a minute or two when Axis died.
    I definitely dont

    can you go over these again, in your own words

    Not W/W
    Wisp/Jmwjmw
    Eph/Arete
    Arete/Caps
    Fext/Caps
    Wisp/Axis
    Eph/Axis
    Eph/Jmwjmw

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    Season 9, Semifinal 1: Trouble on Sornieth [Mafia Championship] Day 4 Votecount

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    2 TheCapsFan Arete (1), arogame123 (2)
    7 Not voting TheCapsFan (0), ThePretender (2), Wisp (2), supershorty (1), Santygrass (0), Ephemera (0), jmwjmw27 (0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by supershorty (#6528)
    I'm in a paranoid world right now where I was too quick to give aro a village lean and I don't like it here
    why Shorty? What are your concerns? I made it very explicit what I was doing yesterday, and I am killing between Caps and EPh yesterday. I made a mistake to follow my towns and I know want to lead/win this game.

    Idk if Arete is mafia or not, but I just think Caps is scummier than Arete and I still feel confident in that unpairing.

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    I am honestly pretty annoyed about that elimination but in the interest of cohesion I am going to do my best to refrain from passive-aggressive comments about it

    currently I'm living in a world where if we all try really hard and come together we can stop ourselves from being embarassingly swept

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    It was alphabetical order except caps was below santy cause technically their user is thecapsfan so alphabetically lower but i shortened to caps when typing cause lazy bones

    so uhh tbh nothing really changed between that and my ranking if im being honest except the reason why caps edged higher in my ranking was how fext brought up why caps could've been villager and I was considering it for a moment

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    I didnt actually read anything last night like I said I was because, ya
    Im going to not decide on who definitely want if it stays between Caps and Mera, since that's bad play given we are one misyeet from f7 lylo, which will almost 100% lead to loss in my opinion

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    I'm feeling better about Arete than I have been

    I'm at like

    Pret

    Wisp

    aro????
    Santy
    Arete

    Which leaves me with an unordered POE of:
    Ephemera
    jmwjmw27
    TheCapsFan

    I did not look at any ISOs during the night cycle so Ephe and Santy I need to look at tomorrow. And I'm feeling spooked by aro right now but mainly paranoia based + I didn't like the vote sheeping comments last night.

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    I'm ready for aro to just have pocketed me all game and my initial vote on them day 1 was my gut being on point but being marinated hard right now so uohh I'll entertain a v!aro a bit longer tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#6529)
    Man ok, I don't really care if you guys believe this or not, but I actually teared up for a minute or two when Axis died. I had cased them why they are likely not mafia on day 2 and defended against certain pushes against them on day 3 and still voted them cause I went with my town... I was and am still sick to my stomache.

    I know I said I want to win this game in honor of those 3 people, but now more so I want to win this game for Axis man.

    With that being said, Shorty and Pret are top two town and I believed they are never mafia. I'll white knight them if I have to. Wisp and actually now Santy in leaning town. I realized that when looking over Santy's iso that he was a lot better than I had thought at the time and I can tell he was frustrated that no one was listening to him and felt people would ignore him.

    That being said, I am looking at Caps or Eph today.
    Why Wisp is not in towncore anymore?

    I... have some things I wank to work around with, but have to organize my thoughts a bit

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    Idk if you guys will decide to turbo me or not, but I have some thoughts i would like to share about what happened yesterday, so I ask that if you choose to turbo me, that you kindly give me some time such that I can share them.

    I’m hosting people at the moment though, and cannot take the time to post them.

    Give me at minimum two hours, please.

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    Caps is still out of his mind for saying that I was being saved near EoD, and somehow links that with people like Mera, who was not here to even save me, from his own words. I juggled the idea of all of us being town, but I couldnt get over the things I didnt like about Axis, ohh well. But at this point its clear that nobody really cared about those wagons

    Still the biggest problem with him is that his case on me almost 100% started with a conclusion, that he had to force to justify

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    First of all, the most important:




    WHY IS JMW SO HARD TO LYNCH I cry. Literally the only other people who put them as top vote excluding me was Eph, And idk if I should trust that vote ahhh

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    in case anyone cares, im still stuck on Santy's note thing, and part of me thinks its hella townie, I've already stated before that Idk why he didn't want to post it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#6526)
    @Ephemera
    I wanted to ask, what was the idea behind the test vote on JMW again?
    also I'll preface this with day 1 was all town wagons, beautiful
    i’ve done two test votes on jmw - one on d2 and one on d3

    the d2 one (i think it was on d2?) was to put jmw into lead wagon with two wagons one vote behind - i wanted to see who he’d pick as a counter wagon
    that failed because you immediately unvoted jmw then pret unvoted you.

    on d3 i put jmw into a tie to see where people would vote


    currently out so i can’t be around much
    but @arogame123 this time i actually am ~halfway done with my comparison to cats v dogs and will get it out within the day - I’d have finished it but i had so many errands yday (including JUST AT DEADLINE WHAT THE $%#!)


    other thing is that i’m beginning to get irritated in general (not at anyone specific) that people just aren’t reading me.
    no offence arete but you were wondering why i preferred jmw over axis despite my case, and if you kinda followed my posts you’d see by the end i was severely doubting my case - it was more of a choice between someone who’d done both scummy and towny things (axis) and someone i didn’t have anything towny on

    like please people i don’t mind being in POE but at the very least analyze me
    ._.

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    that being said after that lynch went through I Alt+F4 and didn't look at the thread until just recently so I might just read how caps treated eod and maybe compare it to how AXIS did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#6531)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#6529)
    Man ok, I don't really care if you guys believe this or not, but I actually teared up for a minute or two when Axis died.
    I definitely dont

    can you go over these again, in your own words

    Not W/W
    Wisp/Jmwjmw
    Eph/Arete
    Arete/Caps
    Fext/Caps
    Wisp/Axis
    Eph/Axis
    Eph/Jmwjmw
    Do I really have to explain the Axis and Fext ones now?

    with you and Jmwjmw, it is so unlikely for ur partner who was tr, to then not only flip their read on u on day 1, but to also start a wagon attempt on ur slot at EoD when u were a viable option and could have ended up dying. Just no way in my eyes.

    Eph and Arete is their opening conversation and how they went head to head with each other in the very beginning putting the splotlight on themselves. Also, it seemed like Eph was trying to appease to Arete at times later on when they were getting scum read by Arete.

    Arete and Caps not together because their passive agressiveness towards each other and there was a moment where Caps said Imma push/vote Arete, and then later on, Caps went "Actually, you right Arete, I have no reason to actually vote you" It felt so genuine in that response and that like "oh, I guess I don't have a reason" that I believe that it is unpartnery.

    Eph and Jmwjmw, now this one I will admit when looking back at what Santy was saying and when rereading for myself, it is a weaker one. But the main reason was when Eph entered in the thread, Jmwjmw was a slot that was getting some heat at the time and Eph sort of added to that and cased on Jmwjmw. Then when Mendes started to tr Eph, they thought it was potential TMI on Jmwjmw being town which does feel sort of odd for a partner to say about a town Mendes being so confident with their tr on Jmwjmw. And besides that, Eph was one of the people that wanted to kill Jmwjmw on day 2 instead of Cobalt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#6531)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#6529)
    Man ok, I don't really care if you guys believe this or not, but I actually teared up for a minute or two when Axis died.
    I definitely dont

    can you go over these again, in your own words

    Not W/W
    Wisp/Jmwjmw
    Eph/Arete
    Arete/Caps
    Fext/Caps
    Wisp/Axis
    Eph/Axis
    Eph/Jmwjmw
    I choke'd lmaoooo, this reply is too based

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    @Santygrass
    to be fair, I think the reasons for lynching JMW really arent there, and might not have been strong enough to begin with. You can try to sell it on me again, but Caps is wolfiest in the remaining 3 living people from my grouping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera (#6544)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#6526)
    @Ephemera
    I wanted to ask, what was the idea behind the test vote on JMW again?
    also I'll preface this with day 1 was all town wagons, beautiful
    i’ve done two test votes on jmw - one on d2 and one on d3

    the d2 one (i think it was on d2?) was to put jmw into lead wagon with two wagons one vote behind - i wanted to see who he’d pick as a counter wagon
    that failed because you immediately unvoted jmw then pret unvoted you.

    on d3 i put jmw into a tie to see where people would vote


    currently out so i can’t be around much
    but @arogame123 this time i actually am ~halfway done with my comparison to cats v dogs and will get it out within the day - I’d have finished it but i had so many errands yday (including JUST AT DEADLINE WHAT THE $%#!)


    other thing is that i’m beginning to get irritated in general (not at anyone specific) that people just aren’t reading me.
    no offence arete but you were wondering why i preferred jmw over axis despite my case, and if you kinda followed my posts you’d see by the end i was severely doubting my case - it was more of a choice between someone who’d done both scummy and towny things (axis) and someone i didn’t have anything towny on

    like please people i don’t mind being in POE but at the very least analyze me
    ._.
    are you powerwolfing mayhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santygrass (#6539)
    Quote Originally Posted by arogame123 (#6529)
    Man ok, I don't really care if you guys believe this or not, but I actually teared up for a minute or two when Axis died. I had cased them why they are likely not mafia on day 2 and defended against certain pushes against them on day 3 and still voted them cause I went with my town... I was and am still sick to my stomache.

    I know I said I want to win this game in honor of those 3 people, but now more so I want to win this game for Axis man.

    With that being said, Shorty and Pret are top two town and I believed they are never mafia. I'll white knight them if I have to. Wisp and actually now Santy in leaning town. I realized that when looking over Santy's iso that he was a lot better than I had thought at the time and I can tell he was frustrated that no one was listening to him and felt people would ignore him.

    That being said, I am looking at Caps or Eph today.
    Why Wisp is not in towncore anymore?

    I... have some things I wank to work around with, but have to organize my thoughts a bit
    I said Wisp is town leaning, and it's more so because of potential paranoid worlds, but I still believe they are town.

    Santy, I feel like you and I started getting on the wrong foot yesterday and I do believe that you your thought process and analysis on Jmwjmw, as well as how you felt about how I was treating you came from a townie. And I really want to discuss with u some of the main points on why u think Jmwjmw is scummy. Because I reread over it and it seems like u weren't just "sheeping Cobalt's argument" but you also introduced thoughts of ur own and I want to discuss those with u.

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