honestly this is just reminding me why i havent posted since last week
honestly this is just reminding me why i havent posted since last week
oh wait there are still 3 wolves
we are so $%#!ed
At least my theory invokes Fairy's progression on me. Other people who could fit in this group would be aaa and Haze. I can't see how you can compare yours against the game from beginning to end. No offense, though. This game hasn't been worth people's time in general.
You know, maybe the real winners are the people who died before us. I should have just pulled a Kuti and sabotaged my entire mafia career just to die in one tabletop game.
Winning in real life versus winning a game of mafia. I really don't know where my priorities should be.
Let's be honest here. OUTM is only suspicious because he's alive and could be deepwolfing. Could be deepwolfing. I doubt anyone here can justify their points against OUTM outside of that gutread.
what point did you draw from it then
because the point im seeing is "aaa/outm is w/v and i think outm is v"
if you say "oh well no not for 100% sure you're w/v" then whats the conclusion in the first place
i find that progression to be wolfy as $%#! since you saw 3 names that included you and schweppes said "surely theres a wolf in here" and ur like "oh yeah sure" and voted aaa when thats entirely arbitrary
am i going crazy rn because wtf
Are you not aware that orange has freqhly squeezed entirely totally arbitrary and random lists of names
no so what lily is supposed to do is consider that you're a wolf got it.
Haze with a Z
im saying she should consider the fact that its entirely arbitrary, and im asking her why she's drawing a conclusion from it to vote aaa over wes
ur the bastard who tunnels me every game for no reason
ur town here probably
me kill aaa
In case it hasn't set in, it's to be expected of Lilypetal to announce a fos on one or two people because of iffiness. My understanding of a town!Lilypetal is that she's winging everything with her gut and all her explanations, when questioned, sound like a word salad. This is because she didn't bother to read another level deeper into her reads, so she is actually coming up with her explanations on the spot.
note that my main problem with lily this game was that it looked to me like she believed those gutreads more than she realistically shouldve
I'm not sure I actually agree with that lol
their uncaring on whether wes/aaa goes over makes me tilt my head in the case where both are town (But i sincerely doubt that)
Alright, was busy last week, not as busy now. So sitting down to look into the thread...
Yeah, I have no WIM really left for this game.
So we're gonna go with this:
1) Schweppes is town. They've had decent post counts every day, I've agreed with a fair bit of their takes, and they've had genuineness in their post with annoyance, etc.
2) Haze is town. OUTM said they found them disconnected in a wolfy way, but I find their disconnectedness towny. They keep wanting to vote me even though I've been the biggest proponent of them being town, especially right now with more scrutiny coming to their slot. They just kept repeating their "I expected more from Orange" thing even when it didn't look great. I think Haze is just doing their thing without agenda or caring about appearances.
3) Fairy is town. I know I just listed them in my last wolf team guess, but $%#! it, it never felt right. 2 things here. 1: Vibes. Don't think I've gotten a single wolfy vibe when reading their posts. 2: The bolded read here
That's the towniest read in the whole game. Don't care it was pretty early d1. That's something a town thinks/writes. Or more precisely I don't think that's a read a wolf could fake.
That leaves OUTM/Lily/aaa/Ominoire/Orange
aaa/lily have been positioned as v/w pretty strongly this game. Both by their attitudes towards each other as well as framing from other players. They could both be wolves, but I think that's a pretty low possibility. They could theoretically be town, meaning the exact team would be OUTM/Ominoire/Orange. Buttttttt...
Out of all the non w/w pairings I did this game, this was probably the strongest (there may have been stronger ones with Schweppes, but he's town who cares). That's not something you write to your wolf partner in thread. It's too antagonistic, it's without explanation of the the context of the statement which could have been explained in wolf chat, and it would just be a super weird post to go and think "Imma write this at my wolf partner".
So, that leaves us with 1 in lily/aaa, 1 in orange/ominoire, and 1 in OUTM
I said it before and got cold feet from it, but OUTM should have been NK'ed if they were town. It just would have happened.
Out of Orange and Ominoire, it's mostly a toss up for me. And out of lily/aaa I'm leaning more lily still, throwing out the lily/OUTM non w/w pairing completely.
I'm locking myself in at 95% confidence in this solve. So any arguments to sway me from this will have to be good enough to make me agree its the 5% alternative. So unless that happens, I'm locked in on OUTM for the day.
the literal main case against that is whataboutism which is yuck but
that case hinges both on you being town (which at least you have in your pov, if you are town) and your townreads being entirely correct (and since i think there is much more than likely a wolf between you/haze, lol)
and i disagree that orange/ominoire can be written off as non-w/w completely even if i did say it earlier, orange seems like a very competent player (at least when they're trying...) so my lily stock is plummeting by extension
honestly wes to me this seems more like a comfy spot for a wolf to slide into. i know its still pushing me a (at least previously) established towncore member, but your case is believable enough to not get you scrutinized while still not being sheep-able for anyone to the point where you can just kinda comfortably park on me. but since its believable enough its nai
Is express point a phrase? Or is that something I've been saying wrong for a while now. Cause looking at it, it seems wrong.
It is still very pointed of just calling it a wolfy position so shutting down any discussion between us. Which, I did just lock you in as my vote for today, so ya know, fair.
i kinda think we should kill aaa and then if they flip town yall should snapvote me in lylo to complete the prophecy
sell me on the idea that OUTM was a better kill than
because I have a hard time seeing most of those
i also dont think id be aligned with either ominoire / orange from my treatment of their slots
if im partnered with ominoire why do i attack ominoire on d4 completely uninitiated and then drop it
if im partnered with orange...well this one i guess looks more realistic but i still think my progression on thinking theyre lockwolf to thinking theyre fine came too naturally from me for it to be partnered. i think if i was trying to look towny id try to confbias it a little bit
When they actually get posting stuff and not talking about infinite time phases it comes off alright tone wise. But like for instance today I don't think any of the stuff they've pushed about people who have voted the towns wagons has really helped solve the game at all. So eh.
Axelrod was a better kill than OUTM, not just because he hardly had a fos against him, but because OUTM's wagon was a front issue. Although Axelrod didn't utilize his vote to pressure anyone, he was a threat just by existing.
Personally I don't think we should be solving OUTM's slot with the "Why is he still alive?" argument. We could also apply the same argument to Schweppes - and myself, to a lesser extent. We wouldn't get anywhere until we yeeted one of us.
Also, that exchange between Orange and myself that Wes found was one of the reasons I was unwilling to vote Orange on D1 and even soft-defend them for. I'd forgotten all about that.