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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#9143)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#9141)
    sell me on the idea that OUTM was a better kill than

    1. Bowser
    2. Fontana
    3. Brad
    4. Axel

    because I have a hard time seeing most of those
    He was more generally town read than everyone after Bowser. So don't know what's hard for you to see there.
    orange's worldview is is simply one of counting how many people will happily side with mafia in voting some random POE town, i.e. the the size of the POE doesnt matter because it has always been large enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaa (#9152)
    ##Vote Ominoire
    Used to be Wes was voting me. You were voting Wes at the time. And now you're voting me after Wes unvoted me. What do you think so far when it comes to us two, knowing that?

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    2 Ominoire Fairy (4), aaa (4)
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    oh thank $%#! I saw the most recent post was mafia host and thought somebody hammered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#9143)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#9141)
    sell me on the idea that OUTM was a better kill than

    1. Bowser
    2. Fontana
    3. Brad
    4. Axel

    because I have a hard time seeing most of those
    He was more generally town read than everyone after Bowser. So don't know what's hard for you to see there.
    It's not whether he's more generally townread

    It's whether he's a better kill

    and you can maybe make a case for Brad but I'm not sure I buy that OUTM is a better kill than Fontana or Axel basically ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#9146)
    Quote Originally Posted by OUTM (#9145)
    @Wesmaster160 what's your orange read?
    Don't know. Either them or Omi is likely a wolf. Like I've already said sort of a toss up between the two.

    When they actually get posting stuff and not talking about infinite time phases it comes off alright tone wise. But like for instance today I don't think any of the stuff they've pushed about people who have voted the towns wagons has really helped solve the game at all. So eh.
    I would fundamentally agree I was just upset that Axel died and venting about that and then had a busy af week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9149)
    Personally I don't think we should be solving OUTM's slot with the "Why is he still alive?" argument. We could also apply the same argument to Schweppes - and myself, to a lesser extent. We wouldn't get anywhere until we yeeted one of us.
    which was my point at the start of the day

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    (also if you guys are the wolfteam gg I lose)

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    I'll be coming for you tonight, Orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9160)
    I'll be coming for you tonight, Orange.
    can you try sunday during the day instead ill be more open

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    This guy thinks he can bargain for a Sunday.

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    I feel like Orange not getting that Omi was making a joke that they would NK them tonight should tell me something about Orange's alignment, but it doesn't. At least it doesn't clearly.

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    I'm pretty sure Orange knows I'm joking. It's not like I can nightkill my wolf partner anyway.

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    2 Ominoire Fairy (4), aaa (4)
    2 aaa lilypetal (27), OUTM (43)
    1 Wesmaster160 Haze with a Z (29)
    1 OUTM Wesmaster160 (32)
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    So Orange, as the only non voter so far where's your head at?

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    my head is at "I'm okay if this day phase takes a year"

    jsyk

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    to clarify I don't necessarily want to draw it out that long

    but I joined this game with the expectation it would be significantly slower than it has been and am 100% fine with however long it ends up being

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    2 Ominoire Fairy (4), aaa (4)
    2 aaa lilypetal (27), OUTM (43)
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    Okay cool. So how about like who's wolves tho?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#9171)
    Okay cool. So how about like who's wolves tho?
    thoughts have not changed since before

    so basically the walls of inconclusive text I dumped are it for this instant

    wish I had all the answers but as of right now I do not

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    I think Wes's last post isn't too bad

    Kinda though about town reading him for it but now that I've finished my catchup I remember it's not actually much just better than most things I've seen

    Same-ish thoughts with Orange, if he actually kept up his earlier solving from like over a week ago I'd like it more. But I guess thinking about it I need to decide on something so I'll still go with Orange town from it.

    Ominoire is pretty wolfy, mostly the way he questions me I think is really bad and other stuff people have pointed out about how he actually wolf reads people. Taking p#9153 this is just so irrelevant and is tried to frame as a way to say aaa is doing something bad/wrong by voting Ominoire when oh no Wes was voting him before. Entirely mute point. Same thing with his asking of me why my day 1 townread of him has changed after 8 non-nightkills only one of which actually flipped town, lol. Trying to hang up on a day 1 town read of him and pointing out it's changed is unbelieve that anyone cares about that. Were he questioning it, it'd be why I scumread him now.

    I'm still town reading Lily, funnily enough some thing Orange quoted about Lily's last EoD posts (idr exactly just that it happened) to say they were bad I read and was just like "that's town lily pretty likely," so I prob have to rethink on aaa cause idr anything to say they're still town and yeah.

    I guess just based on town reads (also including Haze) wolves are in:

    aaa
    Ominoire
    OUTM
    Wesmaster160 (less likely)

    Ominoire most confident by far though cause it's an actual wolf read not just PoE

    Schweppes I don't like readingh his posts so others can solve him btw if he's wolf and we lose I accepted losing a while ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy (#9173)
    Ominoire is pretty wolfy, mostly the way he questions me I think is really bad and other stuff people have pointed out about how he actually wolf reads people. Taking p#9153 this is just so irrelevant and is tried to frame as a way to say aaa is doing something bad/wrong by voting Ominoire when oh no Wes was voting him before. Entirely mute point. Same thing with his asking of me why my day 1 townread of him has changed after 8 non-nightkills only one of which actually flipped town, lol. Trying to hang up on a day 1 town read of him and pointing out it's changed is unbelieve that anyone cares about that. Were he questioning it, it'd be why I scumread him now.
    If I wanted to make aaa look bad on P#9153, then I would have made sure he looked bad in a wallpost with postnums and quotes rather than this vague shading you're accusing me. I like to think I make more effort as a wolf. What I'm asking now are your thoughts about voting someone who was previously voted by the same person you were voting before. In this case, you voted aaa, who was voting me, and then you switched to me. If you voted aaa, then that tells me you suspected him. If you're voting with aaa afterward, that tells me you might have changed your mind. All of this is assuming you have a town process, and I want to figure this out.

    My questions are pretty fair and none of them are designed to make you look suspicious. I don't do "Gotcha!" questions or anything like that. Those are pretty lame. You're someone I've expressed my suspicion for, and me asking questions isn't to make you look even more suspicious, but it's to make sure that I'm either confident about you or that there's something I need to reconsider. Just because I'm voting you, that doesn't mean everything I do from then on is to make you look awful. It's not like what you're implying for my slot.

    My questions are there to help both myself and others to find you town. If you answer in a good way, I'll back you up. If you want to help yourself out, then you should answer my questions. At the very least, you can keep voting me and I can take my vote off you, if you do a good job. I honestly don't care much about anything but seeing how accurate I am by EOD.

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    If you're willing to, I would appreciate it if you answered my questions from P#9018 and P#9153. Otherwise nothing will change unless someone else does something I find suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9174)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy (#9173)
    Ominoire is pretty wolfy, mostly the way he questions me I think is really bad and other stuff people have pointed out about how he actually wolf reads people. Taking p#9153 this is just so irrelevant and is tried to frame as a way to say aaa is doing something bad/wrong by voting Ominoire when oh no Wes was voting him before. Entirely mute point. Same thing with his asking of me why my day 1 townread of him has changed after 8 non-nightkills only one of which actually flipped town, lol. Trying to hang up on a day 1 town read of him and pointing out it's changed is unbelieve that anyone cares about that. Were he questioning it, it'd be why I scumread him now.
    If I wanted to make Wes look bad on P#9153, then I would have made sure he looked bad in a wallpost with postnums and quotes rather than this vague shading you're accusing me. I like to think I make more effort as a wolf. What I'm asking now are your thoughts about voting someone who was previously voted by the same person you were voting before. In this case, you voted Wes, who was voting me, and then you switched to me. If you voted Wes, then that tells me you suspected him. If you're voting with Wes afterward, that tells me you might have changed your mind. All of this is assuming you have a town process, and I want to figure this out.

    My questions are pretty fair and none of them are designed to make you look suspicious. I don't do "Gotcha!" questions or anything like that. Those are pretty lame. You're someone I've expressed my suspicion for, and me asking questions isn't to make you look even more suspicious, but it's to make sure that I'm either confident about you or that there's something I need to reconsider. Just because I'm voting you, that doesn't mean everything I do from then on is to make you look awful. It's not like what you're implying for my slot.

    My questions are there to help both myself and others to find you town. If you answer in a good way, I'll back you up. If you want to help yourself out, then you should answer my questions. At the very least, you can keep voting me and I can take my vote off you, if you do a good job. I honestly don't care much about anything but seeing how accurate I am by EOD.
    EBWOP.

    Fairy mentioned Aaa instead of Wes. That threw me off when I was responding to Fairy. No wonder I felt like the voting wagon was off when I looked at the votecount on my wagon.

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    fwiw I fully buy that somebody with 75 posts in this gamestate would be w

    but it's also a hard as $%#! sell to follow people with 4 and 5 posts on that wagon

    @Fairy @aaa

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    2 Ominoire Fairy (5), aaa (4)
    2 aaa lilypetal (27), OUTM (43)
    1 Wesmaster160 Haze with a Z (29)
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    Orange, you might as well say everyone could be a wolf and everyone could be a town.

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    Granted, if all I'm getting are people who want to commit lazily to my wagon, then the burden is on them to show my wolf equity and to exhibit town behavior. I've done more than enough compared to them. I'm not particularly worried about these people. Even if I do go over, it's still a personal win for me. Not only am I out of this game, but my efforts will be seen in a better light compared to theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9179)
    Orange, you might as well say everyone could be a wolf and everyone could be a town.
    everyone could be a wolf and everyone could be a town.

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    realistically my point is mainly that I just mentored for a game that felt ~similar to this in endgame and the wolves were the highposters without consistent agreeable solutions while the potato town got picked off one by one :P

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    I don't think that's damning for a number of reasons but it definitely means the most recent game I've seen was similar to this one and it was deffo wolves keeping up activity

    hence my comment

    that's all really

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#9182)
    realistically my point is mainly that I just mentored for a game that felt ~similar to this in endgame and the wolves were the highposters without consistent agreeable solutions while the potato town got picked off one by one :P
    That's not how correlation works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9184)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#9182)
    realistically my point is mainly that I just mentored for a game that felt ~similar to this in endgame and the wolves were the highposters without consistent agreeable solutions while the potato town got picked off one by one :P
    That's not how correlation works.
    that is in fact exactly how correlation works

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    like it's not exactly like n=1 here it's just a good recent reminder that on the average scum have more reason to actually play

    am I going to let this drive my reads

    no

    lmfao

    but it's still worth hearing people out

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#9186)
    like it's not exactly like n=1 here it's just a good recent reminder that on the average scum have more reason to actually play

    am I going to let this drive my reads

    no

    lmfao

    but it's still worth hearing people out
    Do you think you'd be playing how you are right now as a wolf?

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    I hope Orange dies in the night at this rate.

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    Or me, that would also resolve things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTM (#9187)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#9186)
    like it's not exactly like n=1 here it's just a good recent reminder that on the average scum have more reason to actually play

    am I going to let this drive my reads

    no

    lmfao

    but it's still worth hearing people out
    Do you think you'd be playing how you are right now as a wolf?
    no shot lol

    I don't really know how it'd be different

    but my playstyles are actually very distinct imo so even without thinking about what I might be doing I can say it'd be different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9174)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy (#9173)
    Ominoire is pretty wolfy, mostly the way he questions me I think is really bad and other stuff people have pointed out about how he actually wolf reads people. Taking p#9153 this is just so irrelevant and is tried to frame as a way to say aaa is doing something bad/wrong by voting Ominoire when oh no Wes was voting him before. Entirely mute point. Same thing with his asking of me why my day 1 townread of him has changed after 8 non-nightkills only one of which actually flipped town, lol. Trying to hang up on a day 1 town read of him and pointing out it's changed is unbelieve that anyone cares about that. Were he questioning it, it'd be why I scumread him now.
    If I wanted to make aaa look bad on P#9153, then I would have made sure he looked bad in a wallpost with postnums and quotes rather than this vague shading you're accusing me. I like to think I make more effort as a wolf. What I'm asking now are your thoughts about voting someone who was previously voted by the same person you were voting before. In this case, you voted aaa, who was voting me, and then you switched to me. If you voted aaa, then that tells me you suspected him. If you're voting with aaa afterward, that tells me you might have changed your mind. All of this is assuming you have a town process, and I want to figure this out.

    My questions are pretty fair and none of them are designed to make you look suspicious. I don't do "Gotcha!" questions or anything like that. Those are pretty lame. You're someone I've expressed my suspicion for, and me asking questions isn't to make you look even more suspicious, but it's to make sure that I'm either confident about you or that there's something I need to reconsider. Just because I'm voting you, that doesn't mean everything I do from then on is to make you look awful. It's not like what you're implying for my slot.

    My questions are there to help both myself and others to find you town. If you answer in a good way, I'll back you up. If you want to help yourself out, then you should answer my questions. At the very least, you can keep voting me and I can take my vote off you, if you do a good job. I honestly don't care much about anything but seeing how accurate I am by EOD.
    If your questions were fair, you'd already have considered it answered. Only thing I indirectly mentioned was also thinking more that who ever talked about your dolby read before was right and thinking it's wolfy now

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    I don't understand what you mean by my questions already being answered. All I want is your explanation to a question I have no answer for. You dipping out hasn't helped me achieved any answer.

    Dolby was a frozen wolflean that could have very well been randtown. That's what I thought. He needed to go either way because of inactivity. I already explained many times over why I wanted Dolby and the inactives dead. We even had a mass killing of these inactives because of how much they were wolfsiding by not being here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy (#9191)
    Only thing I indirectly mentioned was also thinking more that who ever talked about your dolby read before was right and thinking it's wolfy now
    Like this. I don't know if you're talking about me or someone else. I also don't know if you're saying that whoever this person is thought my Dolby read was right, because it is wolf, or that the person was right to believe that my Dolby read was wrong.

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    2 Ominoire Fairy (6), aaa (4)
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    Day 5 ends at 3:00 PM EST on Tuesday, January 9th, 2024. There are 1704830460000 remaining.

    Posted at 348 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes, 59 seconds remaining.

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    Sup yall!

    I know I’ve been avoiding this and I acknowledge that. But I can’t avoid my problems forever! And I honestly really need to put more effort into this game.

    So here I am. For this bus ride, I’ll try to respond to as much as possible since last time I talked.

    Hope y’all are all doing well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#9080)
    This is drivel. If there's anything anyone should've noticed about this game is that the way to get someone eventually killed is just putting them as lead wagon.

    So you're now telling me that they're just going to kill their partner Wes for no cred, great.
    Tbh I agree with this. People sus others and then the sussed ppl eventually get voted out and new people get sussed that weren’t before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#9086)
    Quote Originally Posted by OUTM (#9082)
    I agree with Schweppes on the premise that if aaa and lily are both town then im objectively worst looking player in the game. But I don't see how how lily would think "oh, true, since im town and i think outm is town = aaa wolf" from that

    eugh
    I'll probably read you the same way even if they both flip town. As in, you got too much content for me to bother reading over, so I'll just focus on whatever you're doing now. That said, I don't see how you would be the worst-looking player, considering that we need awful players to make majority on any of those wagons.
    Yeah I got no idea who will go over, and my voice has swapped with orange. And the wagons end up being just random hops from one post or vibes that people including myself try to remember from months ago. No hammer is wanted, yet a hammer is desired.

    It is in times like these that I realise that I really am crap at reading people and have probably flip flopped on everyone here at one point or another.

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