aaa dies or scum are throwing
also I can't say that Haze is definitively town until I've looked at more than just Haze/aaa in depth
aaa dies or scum are throwing
also I can't say that Haze is definitively town until I've looked at more than just Haze/aaa in depth
read their ISO it's $%#!ing incredible
despite the fact I've been giving him $%#! for pivoting onto lowposters his earlygame was actually rock solid, ESPECIALLY in a world where Lily is scum but even if she isn't - excepting Kuti and Prince J, both of whom I consider to be ~forgivable mistakes, aaa has had solid read accuracy that develops in a very natural way without even the slightest hint of outside influence, particularly regarding the bottom-of-the-barrel lowposters for whom he correctly townread all of them early on for reasons that I can get behind
if he looks like obvtown not only to me but also to atpg and is actually scum he can take the W and I will literally not even be the tiniest bit mad dude would have to be playing out of his $%#!ing mind almost regardless of his team
frankly I don't think Haze was ever playing ball at the level you seem to be expecting but I also don't think that makes her scumi'm sorry and i'm reading everything but i don't know your alignment and feel like i have no idea how to play this game and have no answers to any questions, just voting where i think might be helpful
haze just seems like they fell off a cliff and a lot of their recent comments are uninspiring and dont seem on axis with the game if that makes sense, everyone else at least seems to be playing ball at a level i feel is decent
idk if im on a hit tho, all that said
more than happy to talk about this in depth but frankly there is (currently) nobody else in the game I would rather work together with than you
ie even if you think I'm scum it's worth running things past me and if at any point you feel like any differences in opinion we have are in fact indicative of a difference in alignment you can just call me on it
infinite time, zero risk
youre right of course, i had other reasons to put her in my town pile early, but it's just a facile low sample size meta read at the end of the day
i'll think about it and see if i can answer your questions in a few days
no prob
I'll probably keep plinking through ISOs at whatever pace makes sense to my personal life
##Vote Wesmaster160
Don't really believe this tbh considering you've been giving excuses all game that you've been meaning to play more but just don't have time
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At some point, this game is mountainous, what I've been doing hasn't seemed to work, it's been months since my original thoughts and so ive started to forget them, and I've slowly lost motivation as the game stops and starts in spurs and we lose the people that would motivate me. Like I've partially forgotten how to read people without having a ton of roles and I end up trying to read people based on wrong experiences.
Although I would argue I'm more on the cliff than some people, even if I am a completely clueless person on the cliff
"solid read accuracy" we haven't flipped a wolf that isn't spartanread their ISO it's $%#!ing incredible
despite the fact I've been giving him $%#! for pivoting onto lowposters his earlygame was actually rock solid, ESPECIALLY in a world where Lily is scum but even if she isn't - excepting Kuti and Prince J, both of whom I consider to be ~forgivable mistakes, aaa has had solid read accuracy that develops in a very natural way without even the slightest hint of outside influence, particularly regarding the bottom-of-the-barrel lowposters for whom he correctly townread all of them early on for reasons that I can get behind
if he looks like obvtown not only to me but also to atpg and is actually scum he can take the W and I will literally not even be the tiniest bit mad dude would have to be playing out of his $%#!ing mind almost regardless of his team
IMO you should read aaa directly after the inactives flip, iirc he was the one who I pointed out as being like a fish out of water when it comes to scumreads. he's been frozen and, regardless of haze's alignment, his vote on them feels lazy. also i believe aaa/lily is w/t in most worlds, so resolving that is in my best interest.
##Vote Haze with a Z
If you say you don't believe your own read on me when you're also the weakest slot in the game I am going to vote you back.
i dont believe my reads on like anyone. I think I tr lily and omin the most, and then orange, but I also dont know and end up forgetting half the players and just making reads based on one post.
the thing is as wolf I would make time at expense of my personal life
it's arguably kinda a problem and as I'm more busy irl it makes me more polarized but I'm pretty sure that if you were to sort my games by my activity level all of my top games would be scum games and all of my bottom ones would be town
regardless I don't think this is particularly relevant to moving today forward
I agree with that w/t take being decently likely but I'll be reading lily before I vote on it"solid read accuracy" we haven't flipped a wolf that isn't spartanread their ISO it's $%#!ing incredible
despite the fact I've been giving him $%#! for pivoting onto lowposters his earlygame was actually rock solid, ESPECIALLY in a world where Lily is scum but even if she isn't - excepting Kuti and Prince J, both of whom I consider to be ~forgivable mistakes, aaa has had solid read accuracy that develops in a very natural way without even the slightest hint of outside influence, particularly regarding the bottom-of-the-barrel lowposters for whom he correctly townread all of them early on for reasons that I can get behind
if he looks like obvtown not only to me but also to atpg and is actually scum he can take the W and I will literally not even be the tiniest bit mad dude would have to be playing out of his $%#!ing mind almost regardless of his team
IMO you should read aaa directly after the inactives flip, iirc he was the one who I pointed out as being like a fish out of water when it comes to scumreads. he's been frozen and, regardless of haze's alignment, his vote on them feels lazy. also i believe aaa/lily is w/t in most worlds, so resolving that is in my best interest.
and also I can continue the aaa ISO beyond SoD3 but frankly I don't care if somebody gets demotivated and dejected when we start turboing through the lowposters and they all come up town because, well, look around you lmao
So Orange what's like the eta on when your finally caught up?
I'm thinking of Vandy, not AAA.I agree with that w/t take being decently likely but I'll be reading lily before I vote on it"solid read accuracy" we haven't flipped a wolf that isn't spartanread their ISO it's $%#!ing incredible
despite the fact I've been giving him $%#! for pivoting onto lowposters his earlygame was actually rock solid, ESPECIALLY in a world where Lily is scum but even if she isn't - excepting Kuti and Prince J, both of whom I consider to be ~forgivable mistakes, aaa has had solid read accuracy that develops in a very natural way without even the slightest hint of outside influence, particularly regarding the bottom-of-the-barrel lowposters for whom he correctly townread all of them early on for reasons that I can get behind
if he looks like obvtown not only to me but also to atpg and is actually scum he can take the W and I will literally not even be the tiniest bit mad dude would have to be playing out of his $%#!ing mind almost regardless of his team
IMO you should read aaa directly after the inactives flip, iirc he was the one who I pointed out as being like a fish out of water when it comes to scumreads. he's been frozen and, regardless of haze's alignment, his vote on them feels lazy. also i believe aaa/lily is w/t in most worlds, so resolving that is in my best interest.
and also I can continue the aaa ISO beyond SoD3 but frankly I don't care if somebody gets demotivated and dejected when we start turboing through the lowposters and they all come up town because, well, look around you lmao
Meh actually aaa is kinda fine
Weird: The two people I want to vote are the two people on me
Wolfy usage of the word weird.
probably a few weeks
Just kidding, I can; It feels like you're angry that no progress is happening. While you could be making progress.
But I'd be a hypocrite for saying this, since I could as well.
I almost feel like it's a wolf tactic to just wait til eventually the rest of us just vote someone out to get it over with, then if they flip town Orange can come in say "Look you guys did it again voting a town out when we have infinite time" the next day.
I don't know if I actually think it's wolfy or just annoyed with it. I'll put more coherent words about this later.
And respond to this later. Why do you not like it, but think I'm angry no process is being made. Do you think me being angry at that would be more towny or more wolfy?
I think it's more how you said it. "How wild" seems more "unbelievable, he's still doing it" and not frustrated.
see
I might maybe
maybe
buy that could be thought of as a valid wolf tactic
maybe
except I've already committed to literally snapvoting tomorrow if hammer goes down today before I say I'm okay with it
so
lol
....that would be exactly part of the wolf tactic? Wait til town votes out a town today while you're not part of it, then snapvote in mylo.see
I might maybe
maybe
buy that could be thought of as a valid wolf tactic
maybe
except I've already committed to literally snapvoting tomorrow if hammer goes down today before I say I'm okay with it
so
lol
Like that would literally be the exact tactic if you were a wolf so I don't get the lol?
Aaa nevers dies after the wagon formations that happened today.
I sympathize with this theory, because that's the wolf equity I assigned to Axelrod at one point. But that theory alone doesn't catch wolves. If you have a case against Orange that goes beyond this, then tell me.
seems flashy for little gain over just getting two villas to cross....that would be exactly part of the wolf tactic? Wait til town votes out a town today while you're not part of it, then snapvote in mylo.see
I might maybe
maybe
buy that could be thought of as a valid wolf tactic
maybe
except I've already committed to literally snapvoting tomorrow if hammer goes down today before I say I'm okay with it
so
lol
Like that would literally be the exact tactic if you were a wolf so I don't get the lol?
If someone has a case against OUTM that isn't a gutread, then let me know. If not, then maybe I'll bother to read every OUTM post. Earlier I thought OUTM townread Haze strongly enough to defend them on D4, but P#9269 has me thinking I'm mistaken. I probably mixed up OUTM for Orange.
Again, someone - probably Orange - should convince me why Haze is town outside of metareads. The one thing I'm willing to give to Haze is that Haze always enters the conversation like they're playing a different game. We're playing Mafia and they're busy playing Snakes and Ladders. I rather have a case that's dependent on this game and not on metaknowledge, please. I don't think I've played a game with Haze outside of a mash, or any other game at all.
I actually have had Haze scum until quite recently so no shot did you mix us up
TWTBAW is an angle.
also that's pretty much it
I have no relevant meta I'm drawing on
I just don't see them as my first pick for a wolf ~ever and would be much more willing to believe they're town than scum just based on their approach seeming entirely un-agenda'd
Then maybe I'm confusing OUTM and Orange for someone else. Someone who doesn't start with an "O."
Is this D4? I don't remember. But IIRC I've always had haze hovering in null since I couldn't decide on whether their complete lost-puppy attitude was towny or not. But it isn't. It just isn't. It's fake derpclearing. That's all it is.
Oh, you're mixing me up with Lily.
Not really, because I have a lot of experience committing to this angle and identifying people against this angle. Why else do you think I've been able to correctly townread Kuti and Vandy? Or D1 Fontana and Axelrod when people were thinking one of them could be wolfy defensive? I'm either good, lucky, or just a wolf.
Lily might as well be spelled Oily with how I've been mixing up OUTM and Orange for her.
OUTM, Orangeandblack5, and Oilypetal are the wolf team. For certain.
This, but unironically, and also not certain.
sell me on OUTM
if I've asked that before your response was not at all memorable so do it again but better
also wait wes you've literally played with me in a game in which I had no time irl and was scum
how are you of all people questioning my points about my own approach to the game across alignments lmao
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