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    Orange’s “I got new headphones for Christmas” Walrus




    Orange's
    "I got new headphones for Christmas"
    Walrus





    Basic Info
    What’s a Walrus?
    A walrus is an event where a judge posts a list of categories. Entrants may then submit a song they feel is both good and appropriate for the category. The judge then listens to all of the songs from within each category and subjectively ranks them from worst to best, and reveals how everyone did.

    Why’s a Walrus?
    The term comes from the twoplustwo forums, where they were originally referred to as Trololollapaloozas. Walrus as a name may not make much sense, but at least it’s an upgrade?

    How do I participate?
    Just choose songs that you think are good and fit each category, and follow the directions below to submit them. Then, when each category has been scored, you can listen along to the reveals on Discord!

    How does scoring work?
    The place your submission to a given category is placed will be the number of points you get from that category - 1st place will get 1 point, 10th place will get 10 points, and so on. Overall scoring will operate on a drop-one system - each player’s worst category will not be counted towards their final score, and the rest of their scores will be averaged. (This means you can also skip a category without direct penalty). The player with the lowest average points at the end is the winner!

    How can I maximize my score?
    Although this is a purely subjective event rather than a hyper-competitive one, scoring will be done to help encourage people to submit music the host likes. As such, the host will generally score songs they like but have never heard before over songs they have heard, and songs they listen to all the time may score relatively poorly despite being good. You don’t have to go way out on a limb, but try to avoid obvious tracks the host will surely know!

    Can I submit multiple times?
    Yes, although you must make an entire slate of submissions at one time - ie, if you submit two songs to each category, you must make one submission as a group of ten and another submission as a separate group of ten. The scores for these submissions will be independent - rather than awarding you the point value of whichever submission scored lowest in a given category, each submission’s total will be calculated separately.
    Attempts to abuse this system by spamming low-quality submissions will result in all of your submissions being thrown out.

    Are there any other restrictions on submissions?
    Submitting a song that is overly long will make it hard for the judge to adequately assess it - if you’re going to go well beyond a reasonable length with any song, please do so sparingly! If the host ends up skipping your song, it’s going to do poorly and nobody will have gained anything from your submission. Also, if a host has given any example tracks, don’t submit an example track right back at them. Similarly, don’t submit the same song multiple times within or across submissions.

    Can I tell people what I subbed?
    Anybody but me - in order to ensure a fair playing field, I will intentionally not know who subbed all of the songs I'm scoring. To maintain this, please do not discuss your subs publicly, or anywhere I might see them. If you would like to, in private, ensure you and another person do not submit the same song, that’s fine, but do no more than that please!





    My Info
    What do I like?
    Pretty much anything except modern "country" and modern pop/hip-hop has a chance of working for me. I tend to favor rock and alternative music in general, but that also means I’m the most familiar with it. Electronic music can be hit-or-miss, as can rap, but if you give me a good one in those categories it will do really well. Instrumental pieces (such as classical, jazz, soundtracks, etc) are also fair game.

    What should I not submit?
    I have no strict bans, but if I listen to it every day or it’s super commonly known it may not score as highly as something I haven’t heard. To aid in this, I will link this Spotify playlist with a bunch of stuff I have heard - if you want to search through it (via the search button in the desktop app or via scrolling down the alphabetical list in browser) to see if your song is already there, be my guest. You will not be dinged for skipping this - I’m not going to intentionally score songs I don’t like as much very far above songs I like more regardless of novelty. However, if I like two songs about the same but one is new to me, it’ll do better.

    So I should read that whole playlist before deciding what to submit?
    No! Just because something isn’t on that list doesn’t mean I won’t like it, and just because a band is on that list DOES NOT MEAN I HAVE HEARD ALL OF THEIR SONGS. I don't tend to listen to everything by a single artist almost ever, so even if I have a lot of their songs on there it's possible I haven't heard the one you want to submit, and I might love it! I strongly recommend you use this list only to check submissions for exact matches, rather than to inform them.

    What other pointers can you give me?
    I was one of the judges in FoLrus - you can see what I scored highly, what I didn't like, and read my thoughts on each song submitted to my Wildcard category here.

    How will you be listening to the submissions?
    I will endeavor to listen to each song at least once, ideally the initial time, in the best setting I possibly can. This will be a pair of Sennheiser HD 600 open-back headphones connected to a Schiit Hel 2e DAC/Amp, and where possible will utilize a high-bitrate streaming service such as Amazon Music (which is complete garbage you should not pay for, but does have really good audio quality). However, I'll also probably listen to these things while going about my day, and so they are also likely to get playtime from my phone off of YouTube using my 1MORE Quad Driver earbuds, or potentially even my basic-trim-level stock car speakers.





    Category Info

    1. Homeworkout

    Description - As a student, I'm often working late into the night while studying, and I like to have background music that isn't too intense on while I do. Send me a song you think would be a good fit for late-night studying - but save the "desperately trying to keep yourself awake at 5am through sheer noise" tracks for a different category.

    Example Tracks:
    insaneintherainmusic - Rain
    Ghost Data - Stars Beneath the Ocean
    Sewerslvt - goodbye
    Psychedelic Porn Crumpets - Denmark / Van Gogh & Gone
    Karen Ashbrook - Good Morning To Your Nightcap / Behind The Haystack




    2. War Never Changes

    Description - Older songs that sound like they would appear in a Fallout game's main radio station - generally, this will be music recorded from the 1920s through the 1960s, although songs outside of this date range are allowed provided they still capture the same feel. If you've never played a modern Fallout game, skimming [this YouTube playlist] or other Fallout playlists and the example tracks should zero you in pretty quickly. Just don't submit any songs actually used in a Fallout game.

    Example Tracks:
    Dion - Runaround Sue
    Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth
    Frank Sinatra - In Other Words
    George Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue
    Crosby, Stills and Nash - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes




    3. Soundtracks

    Description - I've sometimes gotten into new games or shows because of their soundtracks. Advertise to me! Just be aware that the heavily emotional piece that plays during the saddest part of the thing probably won't hit quite as hard without that context.

    Example Tracks:
    Made in Abyss - Tomorrow
    Guilty Gear Strive - Love the Subhuman Self
    Re:Zero - Takt of Heroes -Origin-
    Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - Red Sun
    Puella Magi Madoka Magica - Sis Puella Magica!




    4. Live It Up

    Description - Live versions of songs that are better than the original.

    Example Tracks:
    Lindsey Buckingham - Big Love
    Depeche Mode - Everything Counts
    Bob Marley - No Woman, No Cry
    Bob Seger - Turn The Page
    Peter, Paul, & Mary - River of Jordan




    5. King For a Day

    Description - Only the highest-quality video game rips allowed. Send in some catchy, hopefully-unironically-good internet mashups (do not have to be specifically video-game related). Now that's a pretty meme. Exquisite!

    Example Tracks:
    Luigi's Mansion - Professor E Gadd
    Sucker is a new and original song which doesn't plagiarize at all
    ""sweet dreams but i put kahoot music over it" but I fixed the tempo" but I added Joker's gun
    smol psy's smolventures
    This is (not) the greatest song in the world.




    6. Homegrown Talent

    Description - Songs from local bands - smaller is better. If everybody else has heard of them, it's probably not going to score well even if they're literally your neighbors.

    Example Tracks:
    Figures on a Beach - Accidentally 4th Street (Gloria)
    Mustard's Retreat - Simple Faith
    Smoky Robinson & the Miracles - The Tears of a Clown
    Rhythm Corps - Satellites
    Finvarra's Wren - The New Mown Meadows / The Monaghan Twig / The Ivy Leaf




    7. Fusion Collab

    Description - Songs worked on by a number of different people, all of whom are awesome. I don't need to have heard of any of these people personally, but it should be the case that you can clearly see the influence of the people involved, whether that be through singing, composition, or something else entirely.

    Example Tracks:
    The Traveling Wilburys - End of the Line
    Animator Dormitory - Back To You
    Queen - Under Pressure
    Revo & Yuki Kajiura - sand dream
    Michael Jackson - The Girl Is Mine




    8. Comedy Sketch

    Description - Give me a song that is designed to be funny! Although I will allow direct parodies, internet-like "meme" songs/mashups should be submitted to the King For A Day category, not this one.

    Example Tracks:
    The Corries - The Bricklayer's Song
    Trevor Moore - Kitty History
    Weird Al Yankovic - Don't Download This Song
    Tim Hawkins - Kids Rock
    Arlo Guthrie - Alice's Restaurant Massacree




    9. The Great Pretender

    Description - Covers or remixes of songs that are incredible in their own right or perhaps even surpass the original version.

    Example Tracks:
    Freddie Mercury - The Great Pretender
    Aretha Franklin - Respect
    Peter, Paul, & Mary - The Times They Are A-Changin'
    Linkin Park - A Light That Never Comes (Rick Rubin Reboot)
    Israel Kamakawiwo'ole - Somewhere Over the Rainbow




    10. Headbanger

    Description - Shoji Meguro has the best guitars. Give me the song with the second-best guitars.

    Example Tracks:
    FamilyJules7x & SoulEye - Prelude
    Shoji Meguro - Unavoidable Battle
    Ghost - Rats
    Daft Punk - Digital Love
    the pillows - ONE LIFE



    How To Submit

    Send @orangeandblack5 a PM on the forums with the topic “Walrus - [username]” and links to each of your ten songs, each placed on their own line.

    A submission should look like the following:

    Note that YouTube links are preferred where possible, but I will accept any link or form of submission. Because the goal is to try out my new audio equipment, it is likely that Amazon Music or another high-bitrate streaming source will be used for all of the songs on at least one occasion, but I will also likely listen to things on my phone or in my car at points.

    If, for whatever reason, you choose not to submit to a certain category, please leave a blank line for it, and also in your PM a message to confirm which category should be blank. Note that you will get one below the lowest possible score for any category you do not submit to, but this score is eligible to be your dropped score.

    For those making multiple submissions, please add the letter whose number corresponds to your submission after your username - for example, if I were to make two submissions, I would call them “orangeandblack5 - A” and “orangeandblack5 - B”. If you originally make one submission but then add another later, it is fine to instead have your submissions named “orangeandblack5” and “orangeandblack5 - B”.

    If you do not have an account on the forums, but would still like to participate, you may send a list of the same general format to orangeandblack5#4506 on Discord. After you have posted your submission, please remove all embeds from your submission post by clicking the ‘X’ button on one of the videos that pops up.

    All submissions are due by 11:59 PM EST on January 20th!



    Current Submissions

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    oh yeah btw please don't not sub something only because you subbed it to some other walrus a while ago

    unless I also subbed to it I probably haven't heard it

    so even if you aren't 100% original to other MUers you probably will be to me and the FoLers so feel free to not worry about making it unique from other MU walrii

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#1)
    Note that YouTube links are preferred where possible, but I will accept any link or form of submission. Because the goal is to try out my new audio equipment, it is likely that Amazon Music or another high-bitrate streaming source will be used for all of the songs on at least one occasion, but I will also likely listen to things on my phone or in my car at points.
    maybe obvious but like, probably a lot of the mashup and live version subs will only be on youtube
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutella (#5)
    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#1)
    Note that YouTube links are preferred where possible, but I will accept any link or form of submission. Because the goal is to try out my new audio equipment, it is likely that Amazon Music or another high-bitrate streaming source will be used for all of the songs on at least one occasion, but I will also likely listen to things on my phone or in my car at points.
    maybe obvious but like, probably a lot of the mashup and live version subs will only be on youtube
    Where possible I will use the highest-quality source I can find

    Where not possible I won't

    And I want YouTube as the default for a reason lel

    so yeah all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by lendunistus (#7)
    HD600 based, probably worth going through this though: http://abx.digitalfeed.net/

    oh and if you're thinking about buying an amp, don't. I run mine off a dongle just fine
    For what it's worth, without reading the website, I can 100% hear a difference between compressed and lossless streaming.

    I know this because Amazon Music reset itself to streaming in compressed mode on my laptop, which is all I had while visiting family, and although I didn't know what was wrong at first I could tell that something was making the new headphones sound outright bad, specifically in terms of having far less resolution/detail than I had been expecting to hear based on my previous sets and others I have tried.

    Eventually figured out the fact that I was streaming at standard quality and found the setting to re-enable lossless. Difference was immediately obvious, the issue I had been having in multiple songs with things sounding bad was now 100% gone and the proper level of detail had returned.

    Not exactly a scientific experiment to rigorously prove it, but there doesn't really need to be when I knew something was off and not working right despite thinking I had it set up to stream lossless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#11)
    ok just kidding I changed my mind I'll end up subbing to like 2 categories max so out me
    @Twice Shrunk fwiw a two-category submission will not win overall but last time I had somebody sub to only one category who did fine in it and I myself recently subbed to only one category in SPF's walrus

    If you want to only sub to a few categories and you don't care about trying to win, that's 100% fine by me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by lendunistus (#7)
    HD600 based, probably worth going through this though: http://abx.digitalfeed.net/

    oh and if you're thinking about buying an amp, don't. I run mine off a dongle just fine
    For what it's worth, without reading the website, I can 100% hear a difference between compressed and lossless streaming.

    I know this because Amazon Music reset itself to streaming in compressed mode on my laptop, which is all I had while visiting family, and although I didn't know what was wrong at first I could tell that something was making the new headphones sound outright bad, specifically in terms of having far less resolution/detail than I had been expecting to hear based on my previous sets and others I have tried.

    Eventually figured out the fact that I was streaming at standard quality and found the setting to re-enable lossless. Difference was immediately obvious, the issue I had been having in multiple songs with things sounding bad was now 100% gone and the proper level of detail had returned.

    Not exactly a scientific experiment to rigorously prove it, but there doesn't really need to be when I knew something was off and not working right despite thinking I had it set up to stream lossless.
    fair enough (though amazon music compression could just be crap fwiw)
    going to have to try comparing 320kbit/s vs lossless with my own HD600’s sometime

    if you ever want to move off amazon music, I’ve heard good things about qobuz. apple music also has lossless although the web client doesn’t support it for some reason. bandcamp is excellent if you don’t mind paying for your music

    oh and don’t use tidal. it’s buggy as $%#! and MQA is basically a grift
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    I'm happy with Amazon Music in temporary bursts because it has a combination of very good quality for HD tracks and a large library.

    I probably wouldn't bother without a dedicated external DAC though, and it is definitely painful to use.

    I don't pay for any streaming service long-term - I just buy my music, usually.

    I only got Amazon Music for the new headphones - I wanted to give them the best possible first shot, snd I would normally cancel after a month, but I may just stay with Amazon until I'm done with this.

    If Spotify ever stop being lazy and releases HiFi I'll probably just do that long-term.

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    A bit under two weeks remain to submit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 (#1)
    Current Submissions

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    - Bloobird
    - nutella
    - Caspore A
    - Caspore B
    - Caspore C
    - Caspore D
    - Caspore E
    - Caspore F
    - Caspore G
    - Caspore H
    - Caspore I
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    Please sub

    save me from this hell

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    argh I completely forgot
    i'll put something together ig unless it's too late
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    Going to bed soon , but this is a very $%#!ty vote

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    actually that's like 20 non-caspore subs so I'll save you from that hell
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