i've gone over it but beskar made a big show of supposedly scumreading kajot only to keep his vote glued to sett, a lesser scumread, and i don't buy his excuses
i've gone over it but beskar made a big show of supposedly scumreading kajot only to keep his vote glued to sett, a lesser scumread, and i don't buy his excuses
I've secretly sred Beskar for most of this game but I faked a tr on him so that he'd leave me alive.
So like ya it may just be this mans
i got lazy and backed off because visor was shielding him but he bleeds TMI with the stuff he says
I felt the same way truthfully
i'm glad we could share this moment after all this time
anyway going to be careful with my remaining posts so i can talk to the masons whenever they show up
Just had to look for myself y'know. But now that I've won, I'm happy to help close out the game.
If I vote I put Baskar at L-2
I wait for The Golden Wiggles though
Please never change this made my dayNo, this is the fantasy novel I wrote.
I hope you like it.
Beskar : All right. Where is the Bus Drive going? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both do our night actions, and find out who is right... and who is dead.
Rhand: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the attack into his own ally or his enemy? Now, a clever man would put the arrow into his own ally, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the bus drive in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the bus drive in front of me.
Beskar : You've made your decision, then?
Rhand : Not remotely. Because Beskar comes from the Org, as everyone knows, and the Org is entirely peopled with scum, and scum are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the bus drive in front of you.
Beskar : Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Rhand : Wait till I get going! Now, where was I?
Beskar : the Org
Rhand : Yes, the Org. And you must have suspected I would have known the arrow's origin, so I can clearly not choose the bus drive in front of me.
Beskar : You're just stalling now.
Rhand : You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my CrimsonFox, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the arrow in your own ally, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the bus drive in front of you. But, you've also bested my Kajot, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the arrow as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the bus drive in front of me.
Beskar : You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
Rhand : IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE BUS DRIVE IS!
Beskar : Then make your choice.
Rhand : I will, and I choose... what in the world can that be?
[Rhand gestures up and away from the table. The Beskar looks backwards. Rhand swaps the allys, placing the bus drive]
Beskar : What? Where? I don't see anything.
Rhand : Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. But no matter.
[Rhand tries to hold back laughter]
Beskar : What's so funny?
Rhand : I'll tell you in a minute. First, let's do our night actions. Me from my side, and you from yours.
[Rhand and the Beskar drink]
Beskar : You guessed wrong.
Rhand : You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched targets onto you when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against a MTGSalvation when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha…”
[Rhand stops suddenly, his smile frozen on his face and falls to the ground dead. The Beskar removes the blindfold from **Hallia's** head]
Beskar : You all right?
Hallia : And to think, all that time it was your location that was arrowed.
Beskar : He was unable to drive a bus in the first place. I spent the last few day and night phases building up a rupee pile to purchase the items required to best it.
https://youtu.be/z9TRMQwMNnY
It made zero sense, but go off I guess
I know we are involved in a love-hate relationship, Michelle, but now you are making me blush.
I sought clarification.
If you get voted the masks, even if you get lynched, you get the credit.
I would like others to do the same.
You get that as my respect for you as a player. Enjoy.
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Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 3 Beskar TheGoldenTyranno (14), matt (26), Rhand (68) 3 Rhand BSmith (66), Beskar (92), Hallia (39) 2 BSmith wiggles1993 (68), Michelle (63) 2 Not voting Gira (90), Parity (33)
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good talk
be back tomorrow
Alright what do we need my feedback on?
I thought initially beskar saying he thinks he is link was towny, but I now I think it could be them compensating for their abundance of power.
Flavour wise, I really think I would genuinely flip Link on death.
As previously mentioned, all the sages had their respective medallions. I had Light Medallion as a hidden item. So when I would have died earlier in the game, I would have most likely flipped the old man or his reincarnation, the owl
Given I have completed the Master Sword quest, I assume now this might have changed my flavour to that of Link on death.
That is my rationale. It isn't me trying to make a grand claim with no supporting evidence.
So we are in a timeline where Link is a serial killer?
I have only killed one person. You can argue that I am a murderer. I am not counting Lynch's as being personal victims.
A serial killer is someone who murdered many people. Mass murderer can be too.
If the game doesn't end, I could rack up my kill count and then the game story flavour is that Link is indeed a Serial Killer.
Oh, if you mean mechanically a serial killer.
That would mean I am neutral alignment and not a wolf.
If we look at the mechanics objectively:
If you see the win conditions, a neutral alignment can win with town once they have completed or failed their objectives.
If that is your argument, you could say my goal to get the factional win condition without murdering people would involve me having to explore other options such as collecting items.
I was joking.
A serial killer would have as a wincon to be the last person standing by the way. They can win with town in this game if town wins the triforce / relic victory first, but not any other way apart from one of those factionals but I doubt that gives them the full win.
If an SK even exists.
he's been playing that angle but i think thats an easy thng to run with given cover faction
the way he spoke about the setup where he was speculating about a smaller than normal wolf team is something that i don't think is an organic conclusion for an uninformed villager
additionally, he accused kajot of trying to get into contact with the neutrals to work with them, when he had been desperately petitioning to get added to a chat with visor - it feels like a bit of telling on himself here. and following that, he and bsmith have been acting like a wolf team in lylo here - moving in lockstep, hard defending one another, fishing for a vote they think will work.
beskar has several interactions with kajot that look partnered, he voted to save her day 5, andthe way he pushed her day 6 looks like an overconfident tmi bus - there's no logical flow to it at all
those are my points i guess
##Vote Beskar
running out of posts so making this vote now
##Unvote Beskar
I think it's fair since we used all 7 days of this phase for the rest of this day to run its course.
Looking objectively, you could argue that if Hero of Time is a cover faction. Given what I have said, my cover role could be Link.
It doesn't make what I am saying a lie. It is a convenient truth.
I disagree with this. At the context of the time, it was actually Parity's thoughts and I shared these more publicly, because it might be something to consider. You have to remember I have been in a neighbourhood with Vecna, Parity, BSmith, Matt, Visorslash for the majority of the game. A lot of our talk there might come across on here as appearing far more informed than it is by virtue of having already discussing it.
I have been in a neighbour by proxy with BSmith and Visorslash majority of the game. The reason I asked was for personal reasons. Please take note Me, BSmith, and Visorslash are all players from the Org. Due to the rules we have to be careful of outside contact. We have not spoken for a few years and wanted a catch up.
In regards to the Kajot comment, if I was her wolf partner, then she was already in contact with them via me.
How did I do this? I didn't bandwagon anyone. I actively chose not move my vote because people were flip flopping around. There were 16 vote changes in the last 5 minutes. I had zero influence on that outcome.
Again, I am in a neighbourhood. We had worked out she must have been a wolf since we essentially knew every single killer. The pair killers were BSlash and Visorslash. The only other paired killer was Kajot. It made logical sense.
i'm currently leaning towards the beskar execute.
Worth noting the neutrals have had the ability execute beskar for some time, and also had that opportunity with gira, so if they had some nefarious plan to win today by lynching either of those it would probably have happened.
Beskar were in neighborhood with the neutrals, and that means he was an active part in finding their targets.
For a wolf this is the perfect cover, to make the kills with other hands.
##Unvote BSmith
Ask Parity, Matt, BSmith how many times I have directed them to kill someone.
Zero.
Ask Parity, Matt, BSmith, how many times @Michelle and/or @Rhand have directed them to kill someone?
At least once that I know of.
Which was they said for the neutrals to kill @TheGoldenTyranno last night. Their hands are far from clean in that situation. Don't let them make out otherwise in the thread.
My hands were clean, except for saying "I agree with Holyflare, he is my top suspect" and going along with the plan as given by BSmith.
But don't let the true facts get in the way of a good story.
Oh, if you going to say "But Cyndraquil was a town and you sliced her!"
So were Schweppes and Wisdom, but it didn't stop Michelle and Rhand blasting them willy-nilly from the game. But they happen to conveniently leave that bit out as well.
I didn't blast anyone ever. All I did was redirect other people's blasts. Which ended up disastrous the first time when I thought I was protecting Wisdom and as intended the second time.
We asked to rethink the targets yes. After we tried to stop the killings. We were ignored both times (not by Parity herself, or at least it seemed like she was listening; we were ignored by your shooting group as a whole).
What is it with you pairing me and Michelle when you're talking about things like that? Do you think we're both scum? Can either of us be scum without the other in your worldview?
This is my world view.
This is me and Parity going for a ride to slay the wolves.
This is when I get Hallia her Town Alignment win. She is really grateful.
Matt is whispering "Hey! Listen!" in my ear with his sage advice.
This is BSmith, sharing his opinion of what you guys are up to in the thread.
This is when I have Rhand in my sights.
This is when I am alone with Michelle.
Random picture of Gira getting carried through the game.
The Lovers being like:
How many mafia are dead, 2?
2 dead mafia,
4 non town people
+Whatever is left.
I don't really understand the balance of that, how can there only be 3 bad guys.
I think there might be 2 left that aren’t necessarily aligned.
I also think Pizza didn’t envision both neutral factions to townside (if that’s what they’re doing).
I've been considering if you and Gira are aligned.
Would certainly make sense from a mechanical point of view, you never voted there when they almost got lynched.I've been considering if you and Gira are aligned.
Though I can't say I have a problem with either of your posts.
beskar had a bunch of posts about this on the subject i quoted a while ago
it makes no sense to me either but the simplest possible answer to me is neutrals aren't being entirely truthful
I guess it would make sense yeah. I’m sure that BSmith will kill me whatever Beskar flips and I’m not gonna try and stop him because my flip became a necessity. Unless Hallia scans me, but eh… you are the optimal target (actually TgT) for that.Would certainly make sense from a mechanical point of view, you never voted there when they almost got lynched.I've been considering if you and Gira are aligned.
Though I can't say I have a problem with either of your posts.
this is he postagain there is realistically almost no way beskar is not saying this from an informed POVSo Kajot has a red potion, Crimson has a blue. Kajot uses fire arrows, Crimson uses Ice arrows.
Cover character for Crimson is a rancher with a brother.
If we are going flavour here. There is only one outcome.
On a secondary note, as it has been through the grapevine already. We have pretty much 90% sussed out the game. By we, that is the extended neighbours which includes the neutrals, Vecna, myself, and others.
We know pretty much who every night attacker is since Day 1. All but 1-2 were town vigs. We know a good portion of night actions, and where game winning pieces are. Obviously the neutrals would like those pieces as a thank you to get their win condition and hand back to the town for the United Victory. I have been told one character is holding two pieces of the Triforce due to their empowered defense, and the third seen last nights actions on CrimsonFox is in play.
From the set-up the game it looks like we have a small mafia faction, and we got ways outside of Hallia to find the remaining wolves at night time due to mechanics shared privately. It is a somewhat multiball set up with the neutrals being semi-scum rather than actual scum. In the ISO reads of Kai/Crimson this becomes obvious as the wolves were trying to find their partners, only to find out that the people who they were trying to work with were actually town siding neutrals who want them dead. Poor wolves, they didn't stand a chance. Our prediction is after the death of Kajot, there are only one or two wolves left in the game. Obviously anyone defending Kajot deserves to have a big eye of suspicion on them.
The reason I am posting this, is because I think we as town need to seriously consider reaching a point soon of where we do Sleep votes to allow the quicker progression of time to enable the neutrals to get their victory conditions, so we can end the game. As seen on page 1, once we kill all the scum, the game continues until the neutrals finish their victories. This could easily turn into kill the neutrals, just to end the game. Kind of a "thanks for getting the scum, now $%#! off" which isn't very nice after they town sounded and are catching all the scum for us.
he is leaping to conclusions it simply should not be possible for a villager to make - why would anyone assume there are only a few wolves left after kajot died? it's a 31 player game.
additionally the comment that anyone defending kajot deserves suspicion, while not actually naming anyone, looks lie a wolf who is expecting to get cred for a bus and knows they can push several miskills on the basis of that
i don't think beskar is actually trying to solve anyone's alignment here, or in any of his other posts at the time. it's a lot of hiding in talking about night actions rather than postin anything substantive from actual posts in the thread
like how on earth did beskar come to the conclusion of "this is a smaller than usual mafia faction"?
i wasn't playing assuming that was the case, no one else did either
but to him it's the most natural thing in the world
Yeah it fits with the insistence of flipped scum that it’s multiball
i haven't actually paid attention to who was/wasnt scanned because i assumed town was in a loss state for quite some time, but also the logic being used to justify killing people off thoroughly stinks to me
You, TgT, matt and Parity are the only ones that were not scanned.
Everyone else has scanned town by Hallia / Parity.
At level 2.
Rem also scanned Hallia at level 2 town.
With the exclusion of Bsmith obviously. But I don’t think his alignment is in question 😅
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Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 3 Beskar TheGoldenTyranno (14), Rhand (77), Gira (96) 3 Rhand BSmith (66), Beskar (99), Hallia (39) 1 BSmith Michelle (64) 3 Not voting Parity (33), matt (28), wiggles1993 (77)
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i forget if rhand was one of the people i popped off at when i had a breakdown in-game a month and a half ago, although they were the one to pull me out of it a little
i think we've been pproaching the game from independent points of view rather than being aligned as scumbuddies but of course i'm biased
i feel like - if rhand was going to use their bus drive to kill a town like they did with scweppes, it doesn't make sense to kill wisdom over hallia? wisdom was simply peeked, hallia was the active scanner, makes more sense to get rid of that
Don't forget Rhand's plan. "Hallia is 99% town, let's make it 100% by having her perfect scan someone and lynch her."
I also replied to your previous post earlier.
Look at that. "That are two scum left".I guess it would make sense yeah. I’m sure that BSmith will kill me whatever Beskar flips and I’m not gonna try and stop him because my flip became a necessity. Unless Hallia scans me, but eh… you are the optimal target (actually TgT) for that.Would certainly make sense from a mechanical point of view, you never voted there when they almost got lynched.
Though I can't say I have a problem with either of your posts.
Conveniently, he has now targetted @TheGoldenTryanno and @wiggles1993, setting them up for the next targets.
Look at them go!
If there are two scum left, who could my partner be?
Clearly it is not Rhand, Michelle, Gira.
Who could it be?
1) The Lovers
2) Hallia
3) BSmith
4) Parity and Matt
I hit 100 posts, so I am going to love you and leave you.
What did I do now? Setting TGT and Wiggles up for what exactly?
And I said that if there’s two, they might not be aligned.
I mean… what is that whole post lol?
And why is that your 100th… I want to understand you.
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