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    Good game! Tough for wolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1942)
    Marvel's Avengers: Battle for the Infinity Stones Day 1 Final Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    5 Hallia Norwee (86), scannose (31), Porcelain Doll (321), EvilContract (138), Alisae (161)
    4 lilypetal wiggles1993 (164), Manectric (63), Rem (233), Hallia (99)
    2 carrots AkaneSQ (31), feathers (47)
    1 wiggles1993 Lukeh (176)
    1 AkaneSQ carrots (32)
    1 Porscha bystander (183)
    3 Not voting lilypetal (35), Porscha (62), Luxrayfeon (39)


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    Hallia was eliminated.

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    Day 1 ended at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, November 14th, 2023.
    lol

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    I space stoned carrots to gimme his stones, could have been a cooler finish to do it on lux instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#2294)
    mmm rem was town never getting lynched and was a lily voter, so makes sense, not sure if there's more to sheep from them. They were keen on killing EC too
    This comment aged like milk :3 @wiggles1993

    but this read list, aged like fine wine

    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#820)
    SMASH
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    wiggles1993


    smash?
    carrots
    EvilContract
    Porcelain Doll
    Lukeh
    Norwee


    thinking about it
    Porscha
    bystander
    Alisae
    AkaneSQ

    pass
    Lilypetal
    Scannose
    Luxrayfeon
    feathers
    Hallia

    HARD PASS
    empty


    and here is the list

    max 1 wolf on top

    1-2 middle

    at least 2 on bottom

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4552)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1942)
    Marvel's Avengers: Battle for the Infinity Stones Day 1 Final Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    5 Hallia Norwee (86), scannose (31), Porcelain Doll (321), EvilContract (138), Alisae (161)
    4 lilypetal wiggles1993 (164), Manectric (63), Rem (233), Hallia (99)
    2 carrots AkaneSQ (31), feathers (47)
    1 wiggles1993 Lukeh (176)
    1 AkaneSQ carrots (32)
    1 Porscha bystander (183)
    3 Not voting lilypetal (35), Porscha (62), Luxrayfeon (39)


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    Hallia was eliminated.

    Day 1 has ended.

    Day 1 ended at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, November 14th, 2023.
    lol
    Nothing like getting voted on nothing more concrete than tone πŸ’…

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    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap

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    Ill do my usual musings tomorrow, I am exhausted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nippleman (#4557)
    Ill do my usual musings tomorrow, I am exhausted.
    what are those?

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    Still a happy member of the cult of manectric

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4547)
    Hallia straight up murdered by the village lol
    id do it again

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    Damn though I was really was on point by the end of day one lmao

    And hey town finally won a game I've been in without mafia being unable to make nightkills. Took a lot to get there lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4556)
    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap
    did this game make you a fire type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4559)
    Still a happy member of the cult of manectric
    And now we've successfully got three more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manectric (#4563)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4559)
    Still a happy member of the cult of manectric
    And now we've successfully got three more.
    how do I join

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manectric (#4563)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4559)
    Still a happy member of the cult of manectric
    And now we've successfully got three more.
    /o/ let's gooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4562)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4556)
    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap
    did this game make you a fire type
    I was fuming in dvc for a good part ngl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeh (#4564)
    Quote Originally Posted by Manectric (#4563)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4559)
    Still a happy member of the cult of manectric
    And now we've successfully got three more.
    how do I join
    Simple, just repeat the phrase "Manectric is the best mafia player as both alignments and I would like to join the cult of Manectric"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manectric (#4567)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeh (#4564)
    Quote Originally Posted by Manectric (#4563)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4559)
    Still a happy member of the cult of manectric
    And now we've successfully got three more.
    how do I join
    Simple, just repeat the phrase "Manectric is the best mafia player as both alignments and I would like to join the cult of Manectric"
    Oh. No thanks. Thats sam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4566)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4562)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4556)
    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap
    did this game make you a fire type
    I was fuming in dvc for a good part ngl
    seems like a good time for a spriggy but i dont judge

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    can i have a gg WP

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4569)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4566)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4562)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4556)
    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap
    did this game make you a fire type
    I was fuming in dvc for a good part ngl
    seems like a good time for a spriggy but i dont judge

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    wow had a hard time keeping up with the activity

    i knew games on mu had a post but i was not expecting that much

    also found 0/4 wolves, sorry lol

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    also i briefly skimmed and didnt get it at a glance, why was bystander outed on d5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4573)
    also i briefly skimmed and didnt get it at a glance, why was bystander outed on d5?
    They messed up what information they would have received if their action failed. It would have been explicit they still had the mindstone yet they tried to tell us they had no idea they still had it a full day phase later

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4573)
    also i briefly skimmed and didnt get it at a glance, why was bystander outed on d5?
    because i didn't know we recieved a msg saying if our ability failed that we still had the stone so yeah and it was not mentioned in op

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    Damn porscha had the reality stone but mafia randed it back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4554)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#2294)
    mmm rem was town never getting lynched and was a lily voter, so makes sense, not sure if there's more to sheep from them. They were keen on killing EC too
    This comment aged like milk :3 @wiggles1993

    but this read list, aged like fine wine

    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#820)
    SMASH
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    wiggles1993


    smash?
    carrots
    EvilContract
    Porcelain Doll
    Lukeh
    Norwee


    thinking about it
    Porscha
    bystander
    Alisae
    AkaneSQ

    pass
    Lilypetal
    Scannose
    Luxrayfeon
    feathers
    Hallia

    HARD PASS
    empty


    and here is the list

    max 1 wolf on top

    1-2 middle

    at least 2 on bottom
    Heh I wasn't doubting, you were obviously killing it, just given you'd already proved to have been a valuable asset it was hard to conclude there was another reason you died. If you'd voted wrong and still died then I'm like huh ok what mafia is scared of them

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    Bystander played well, unlucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4580)
    Bystander played well, unlucky.
    thank you wiggles i appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4575)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4573)
    also i briefly skimmed and didnt get it at a glance, why was bystander outed on d5?
    They messed up what information they would have received if their action failed. It would have been explicit they still had the mindstone yet they tried to tell us they had no idea they still had it a full day phase later
    In the first itteration, I thought about having it so the hammer vote got the stone, just to get rid of that RNG.

    But that creates almost another sub game that I thought would distract more from the game of mafia more than the stones already kind of do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nippleman (#4582)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4575)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4573)
    also i briefly skimmed and didnt get it at a glance, why was bystander outed on d5?
    They messed up what information they would have received if their action failed. It would have been explicit they still had the mindstone yet they tried to tell us they had no idea they still had it a full day phase later
    In the first itteration, I thought about having it so the hammer vote got the stone, just to get rid of that RNG.

    But that creates almost another sub game that I thought would distract more from the game of mafia more than the stones already kind of do.
    I played a similar version where it was randed among the voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4566)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4562)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4556)
    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap
    did this game make you a fire type
    I was fuming in dvc for a good part ngl
    I never got invited

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    oh btw tysm alisae for townreading me the entire game

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    Quote Originally Posted by scannose (#4587)
    oh btw tysm alisae for townreading me the entire game
    You made it really eas lol

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    bro dvc is $%#!ing wild someone wants to suck my toes??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisae (#4585)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4566)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4562)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rem (#4556)
    good job team, you guys got there in the end

    clap clap clap
    did this game make you a fire type
    I was fuming in dvc for a good part ngl
    I never got invited
    @Alisae I am so sorry about that, I swore I sent you an invite but I promise that was my stupidity.

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    This game, despite the wild last day I thought went pretty well. I talked about it a bit in discord, but I know I had I think 1/2 newer mafia players against a really stacked town team. I actually thought about rerolling for the briefest of seconds, but I care a lot about Game Integrity even more than balance. If I had an imbalanced game, you can say I was fair and just $%#!ed up. If I don't have good Game Integrity, people can't join trusting I am doing a fair rand, or might favor a friend over someone I don't know. Few things specifically I wanted to mention

    1). Stone Balance I thought was so much better than last time

    My initial thoughts on going 3-3 to take mass claiming day 1 off the table was "well shoot, if mafia are good, this might turn into a mountainous really quick, unless a loot pinata of a mafia member is popped." Time stone obviously was nerfed from last time due to being able to continuously protect the same person. And I added an additional ability to the Soul and Space stone so that they had an ability the mafia might actually use (Space and Soul og abilities are a lot stronger in town hands).

    2). Mafia needs to be fun to be a team

    I know there are people like Rem that like rolling wolf, and some don't mind it. I tend to prefer wolf, but don't like doing large number of wolf rands in a row. I try to create a balanced game, but even if a game is more town leaning, I want to make sure the wolves have a chance something cool to do. Here, they got some stone powers that were nice, and a lot of information based on which stones they had, they knew which ones to watch out for. I think that leads to a lot of cool mechanics for setting themselves for success if they can hide in the town.

    3). In the end, there will probably always be something missed that makes it hard to lie

    Obviously, the elephant in the room from the mafia perspective was that it wasn't clear from the OP that failed abilities would not cause the stone to pass on use. Manetric knew this because he had failed to vig N3 I think when he was time stoned. I think in an open setup with mechanics, I think its important to be clear how mechanics everyone knows exist interact with each other. For instance, a player needs to know if they were redirected or not. The mafia didn't have any abilities fail, so it is unclear that they knew how to fake it. Now from an end result scenario, I don't think it mattered in the grand scheme of things since even if the deception worked, Lukeh flipping town immediately outs Bystander as a liar. But it could have made for a closer game, and even perhaps a mafia win if wiggles fired and was redirected (but even that was a 50-50 and ONLY if wiggles didn't holster).

    In the end, I was very happy with how the balanced worked. The fact that one more mishang could have been a mafia victory made this a nailbiter towards the end when by day 2, it looked like it was going to be a town stomp. I hope all of you had fun and I would love if any of you joined another game Ill do after Hydra season. Or if you need a player for a game you want to host, ping me if you need some people.

    Gg to everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisae (#4589)
    bro dvc is $%#!ing wild someone wants to suck my toes??????
    who let @Cobalt in dvc

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    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4594)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alisae (#4589)
    bro dvc is $%#!ing wild someone wants to suck my toes??????
    who let @Cobalt in dvc
    LISTEN…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt (#4595)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#4594)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alisae (#4589)
    bro dvc is $%#!ing wild someone wants to suck my toes??????
    who let @Cobalt in dvc
    LISTEN…
    xDDDDD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nippleman (#4593)
    This game, despite the wild last day I thought went pretty well. I talked about it a bit in discord, but I know I had I think 1/2 newer mafia players against a really stacked town team. I actually thought about rerolling for the briefest of seconds, but I care a lot about Game Integrity even more than balance. If I had an imbalanced game, you can say I was fair and just $%#!ed up. If I don't have good Game Integrity, people can't join trusting I am doing a fair rand, or might favor a friend over someone I don't know. Few things specifically I wanted to mention

    1). Stone Balance I thought was so much better than last time

    My initial thoughts on going 3-3 to take mass claiming day 1 off the table was "well shoot, if mafia are good, this might turn into a mountainous really quick, unless a loot pinata of a mafia member is popped." Time stone obviously was nerfed from last time due to being able to continuously protect the same person. And I added an additional ability to the Soul and Space stone so that they had an ability the mafia might actually use (Space and Soul og abilities are a lot stronger in town hands).

    2). Mafia needs to be fun to be a team

    I know there are people like Rem that like rolling wolf, and some don't mind it. I tend to prefer wolf, but don't like doing large number of wolf rands in a row. I try to create a balanced game, but even if a game is more town leaning, I want to make sure the wolves have a chance something cool to do. Here, they got some stone powers that were nice, and a lot of information based on which stones they had, they knew which ones to watch out for. I think that leads to a lot of cool mechanics for setting themselves for success if they can hide in the town.

    3). In the end, there will probably always be something missed that makes it hard to lie

    Obviously, the elephant in the room from the mafia perspective was that it wasn't clear from the OP that failed abilities would not cause the stone to pass on use. Manetric knew this because he had failed to vig N3 I think when he was time stoned. I think in an open setup with mechanics, I think its important to be clear how mechanics everyone knows exist interact with each other. For instance, a player needs to know if they were redirected or not. The mafia didn't have any abilities fail, so it is unclear that they knew how to fake it. Now from an end result scenario, I don't think it mattered in the grand scheme of things since even if the deception worked, Lukeh flipping town immediately outs Bystander as a liar. But it could have made for a closer game, and even perhaps a mafia win if wiggles fired and was redirected (but even that was a 50-50 and ONLY if wiggles didn't holster).

    In the end, I was very happy with how the balanced worked. The fact that one more mishang could have been a mafia victory made this a nailbiter towards the end when by day 2, it looked like it was going to be a town stomp. I hope all of you had fun and I would love if any of you joined another game Ill do after Hydra season. Or if you need a player for a game you want to host, ping me if you need some people.

    Gg to everyone!
    I literally sent Nippleman a sad face when i saw i rolled town and no stones

    Me dying night 1 in this saga but wining is my canon event



    I'm Rem

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